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| NCommander | skaet: ping, I'm moving the release date for mx5 server since preinstall pool hasn't landed yet and I rather not push something completely broken and untested | 08:38 |
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| ogra_ | NCommander, release date ? | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, isnt that bound to milesones anyway ? | 09:07 |
| NCommander | ogra_: er date we would hav efirst images | 09:07 |
| NCommander | ogra_: not directly | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | (i.e. next official release date for new images would be A3) | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | does that matter ? | 09:07 |
| ogra_ | we want *working* images by next milestone | 09:08 |
| ogra_ | if they work on first cut they can as well go in on milestone freeze date (ulikely they will indeed) | 09:08 |
| Laney | are archive days still happening? | 12:25 |
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| skaet | NCommander, just go ahead and update first image date to your best prediction. ogra_'s is correct, first release date is a milestone. | 13:23 |
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| skaet | ScottK, any reason why the Kubuntu images for Karmic, Dapper can't be moved off cdimages to old-images (http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/) now? | 18:13 |
| ScottK | skaet: No. I'm suprised they weren't moved long ago. | 20:31 |
| skaet | ScottK, Thanks. :) | 20:32 |
| Laney | so I'm just watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXPtQpl3b0 in which ScottK mentions that the freeze guidelines aren't clear | 20:39 |
| Laney | looks like they haven't been updated since then... | 20:39 |
| ScottK | I think they are perfectly clear and have no clue why people get them wrong. | 20:39 |
| Laney | ok, that some people think they aren't clear | 20:40 |
| ScottK | How can U/I freeze possibly mean that features that affect U/I are exempt from feature freeze? | 20:40 |
| Laney | I'm looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze and it seems like it doesn't clearly express the de facto 'bug fixes are ok' policy as well as it could | 20:40 |
| ScottK | It's just mind boggling. | 20:40 |
| ScottK | Possibly. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | I think the bigger problem is people landing crap at the last minute and then coming up with lame excuses why they thought it was OK. | 20:41 |
| ScottK | I certainly don't object to more clarity. | 20:41 |
| Laney | Having not been on the team for a freeze period before I can't really comment, but I do have that impression too. | 20:44 |
| Laney | Do people respect the 'file a bug for all bug fix uploads after FF' requirement? It seems a bit heavyweight — wouldn't it be better as 'explain that this is a bug fix release in the changelog or sync request'? | 20:48 |
| seb128 | Laney, in practice I've not seen lot of bugs for those | 20:58 |
| Laney | yeah | 20:58 |
| Laney | right well I just went ahead and changed it. We can discuss if someone doesn't like it. | 21:00 |
| ScottK | Laney: I think that's fine. We did that when we first started allowing it. I think it's time has passed. | 21:01 |
| ScottK | It used to be ALL new upstream releases needed an FFe, so just requiring the bug to document it was, in fact, lighter weight at the time. | 21:02 |
| Laney | Right. | 21:02 |
| Laney | and after reading these I can't find out how you could confuse UIF and FF | 21:03 |
| Laney | so I'm on your side here. | 21:03 |
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