gamerchick02 | i'm off for antiques roadshow. old? yes, i am. see everyone tomorrow | 00:00 |
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rick_h_ | greg-g: no idea when we'll cross paths again | 00:21 |
greg-g | rick_h_: :( | 00:58 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, we'll figure something out at some point | 00:59 |
greg-g | rick_h_: if you need it by any point, just let me know, and I'll take the time to head to CHC | 01:03 |
greg-g | g'morning | 11:12 |
rick_h_ | morning | 11:15 |
rick_h_ | early party greg-g ? | 11:15 |
greg-g | about the usual now. I have an employee that needs to start at 8am (so she can get to her second half-time gig by noon-ish) so I need to be there to open the door for her | 11:21 |
rick_h_ | ah, gotcha | 11:22 |
brousch | nappy nappy | 11:41 |
Wolfger | morning | 11:43 |
rick_h_ | brousch: +1 | 11:44 |
rick_h_ | crap, now I feel like I'm a google ad when I do a +1 in chat | 11:45 |
Wolfger | why do you even do +1? We've always been a ++ crowd.... | 11:45 |
rick_h_ | python doesn't do ++ | 11:45 |
Wolfger | It doesn't? | 11:45 |
Wolfger | Lame | 11:46 |
rick_h_ | +=1 | 11:46 |
Wolfger | -- | 11:46 |
brousch | google's in your head, man | 11:48 |
rick_h_ | crap! /me runs | 11:48 |
snap-l | Good morning | 11:49 |
snap-l | We were doing +1 before +! became cool | 11:49 |
snap-l | We're +1 hipsters | 11:50 |
windows | morning | 11:51 |
snap-l | Nice, looks like Jamendo updated their terms of service | 11:52 |
snap-l | And we're about 5 minutes away from the OMC big four of CC metal | 11:55 |
brousch | crap, i'm way behind on omc | 11:57 |
brousch | no assburners? | 11:58 |
snap-l | No assburners | 11:58 |
snap-l | Everything else, though | 11:58 |
brousch | i'm boycotting | 12:00 |
snap-l | brousch: OK. | 12:02 |
snap-l | http://openmetalcast.com/2011/07/12/open-metalcast-episode-25-the-big-four-of-cc-metal/ | 12:02 |
brousch | i need a snappy protest chant | 12:03 |
greg-g | snap-l: do you know what the changes were to the Jamendo TOS? | 12:03 |
brousch | blah blah own your ass blah blah all your music are belong to us blah blah lawsuit | 12:05 |
snap-l | They give a small summary | 12:06 |
snap-l | one sec. | 12:06 |
snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/361/ | 12:07 |
snap-l | Mostly that artists need to make sure they're not part of some collective agency (ASCAP) | 12:07 |
snap-l | that they can pull out of Jamendo Pro at any time (used to be a year) | 12:07 |
snap-l | and that Jamendo is committed to not using their tracks for things like pornos, political stuff, etc. | 12:08 |
greg-g | ah, so mostly with PRO | 12:08 |
snap-l | and the assurance that artists will keep their music "free" on the site. | 12:08 |
* greg-g nods | 12:09 | |
snap-l | ie: I'm CC, but also ASCAP | 12:09 |
snap-l | or I made a CC cover of Rick Astley, but that's ASCAP | 12:09 |
greg-g | heh, right | 12:09 |
snap-l | or BMI, or ... | 12:09 |
snap-l | brousch: Still boycotting? | 12:10 |
brousch | yes, until this afternoon when i'll have a chance to listen | 12:10 |
snap-l | Ok, just wanted to make a note in Google Analytics. ;) | 12:11 |
snap-l | I hope you all like the intro | 12:11 |
rick_h_ | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/07/military-meltdown-monday-90k-military-usernames-hashes-released.ars | 12:27 |
rick_h_ | *sigh* | 12:27 |
snap-l | rick_h_: That's AWESOME. | 12:30 |
snap-l | (and by awesome, I mean freaking terrible) | 12:31 |
rick_h_ | yea, 90k military passwords for potential reuse across any facing military sites | 12:31 |
rick_h_ | sha-1 wheeee | 12:31 |
rick_h_ | If there's a high ranking officer in there with 12345 as a password, I'm going to explode | 12:31 |
snap-l | rick_h_: Brace for it | 12:32 |
rick_h_ | http://www.duosecurity.com/docs/top250gawker.txt better not match up | 12:32 |
greg-g | yeah, chances are there is one with 12345 (but maybe up to 8 if there are char limits) :) | 12:36 |
rick_h_ | always have greg-g to help me feel better | 12:37 |
greg-g | 'tis what I'm here for | 12:37 |
Wolfger | qwertyui | 12:40 |
Wolfger | or for the touch-typists out there, a password meeting normal restrictions would be Asdfjkl; | 12:41 |
Wolfger | (one cap plus one non-alpha) | 12:41 |
rick_h_ | Wolfger: however, if you reuse that password it's all for naught | 12:42 |
* greg-g nods | 12:45 | |
greg-g | Thank you, Revelation Password manager | 12:45 |
* Wolfger contemplates the name "Revelation" for a password manager.... | 12:46 | |
Wolfger | I don't want my passwords revealed :-p | 12:46 |
rick_h_ | hah | 12:47 |
greg-g | only to you, my good boy | 12:47 |
windows | any one looking for work? OU has a sysadmin opening in the school of business. it's going to me mostly windows work. just fyi | 12:50 |
windows | and you get to work with me :) | 12:50 |
brousch | we would get to work with windows? | 12:51 |
brousch | is that supposed to be an incentive? | 12:51 |
rick_h_ | heh, don't listen to brousch, he's a windows worker already :P | 12:52 |
brousch | But my goal is to phase it out of existence | 12:53 |
Wolfger | I'd be interested in that position, but something tells me OU wants a degreed applicant. And/or it won't pay comparable to my existing job :-p | 12:59 |
windows | yeah, 4 year degree is a must | 13:05 |
windows | working with windows is always a joy. :p | 13:07 |
snap-l | Speaking of Windows: https://identi.ca/notice/78611773 | 13:13 |
Wolfger | :-) | 13:15 |
Wolfger | All it needs is a talking paperclip... | 13:15 |
Wolfger | Speaking of cutesy little crap... Why hasn't Ubuntu changed the "working" cursor to a rotating Ubuntu circle? That would be pretty slick... | 13:21 |
snap-l | Wolfger: I'm not sure why. | 13:23 |
snap-l | I'm surprised they didn't use the Atari ST Bee. | 13:23 |
snap-l | http://www.cafepress.com/atari_st_bee | 13:23 |
snap-l | That way you'd know your computer was a busy bee. | 13:23 |
Wolfger | groan | 13:24 |
* snap-l is regretting sticking witht eh Atari 8 bit for as long as I did | 13:25 | |
snap-l | missed out on the classic mac, the Atari ST, etc. | 13:25 |
brousch | jcastro: which museum were you working at on dinosaur stuff? | 13:28 |
snap-l | Thanks for the RTs | 13:30 |
brousch | East siders with kids, how awesome is the Detroit Science Center? http://www.detroitsciencecenter.org/ | 13:31 |
snap-l | brousch: I don't know. I haven't been to the DSC in a while | 13:32 |
snap-l | on the order of many many years. | 13:32 |
snap-l | brousch: Have you been to Impression 5? | 13:32 |
snap-l | http://impression5.org/index.php | 13:33 |
brousch | no | 13:33 |
snap-l | Last I was there, it was pretty damn awesome. | 13:33 |
snap-l | that's been over 10 years now, iirc. | 13:33 |
snap-l | But it's a very hands-on place. | 13:33 |
brousch | we were supposed to have a family outing to the detroit zoo this weekend, but people are dropping due to heat | 13:33 |
rick_h_ | 10yrs and 10 budget cuts later ... | 13:33 |
brousch | so i'm trying to reroute it to someplace indoors before people just give up | 13:34 |
Wolfger | DSC is teh awesome | 13:34 |
Wolfger | no kids, but I have godchildren :-p | 13:35 |
Wolfger | and I love it just for the domed Imax movies | 13:35 |
_stink_ | brousch: it's worth a trip, i think | 13:36 |
_stink_ | depends on the age of the kids | 13:36 |
brousch | 3 - 4 | 13:37 |
brousch | i think the animatronic dinos would be enough by themselves | 13:37 |
_stink_ | yeah | 13:37 |
_stink_ | it's a good alternative for sure | 13:38 |
_stink_ | for the zoo | 13:38 |
greg-g | anyone know anything about http://www.typemock.com/ | 13:46 |
greg-g | ? | 13:46 |
greg-g | I just got a personal email suggesting we (the LoCo) do a webinar about it | 13:47 |
greg-g | if you want a free license for it, let me know, I don't think we'll do the webinar as a group :) | 13:47 |
snap-l | Interesting. | 13:48 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: not seen/heard of typemock | 13:48 |
snap-l | brousch: There's also the Cranbrook museum, but that's not as geared to young ones, if memory serves. | 13:48 |
greg-g | btw, I feel soooo much better with my Photos/Videos/Music now on my RAID 1 enclosure (only took about an hour last night after a couple failed first starts, figuring out the optimum setup) | 13:52 |
snap-l | greg-g: Very cool | 13:57 |
brousch | greg-g: and in the cloud, i assume | 14:14 |
greg-g | brousch: Photos and Music are on my colo, videos not (yet) | 14:22 |
greg-g | takes a lot longer to transfer video from laptop to USB drive than laptop to colo over wifi :) | 14:22 |
greg-g | erm, switch than | 14:22 |
brousch | even using U-M's ginormous pipes? | 14:23 |
greg-g | well, the wifi is artificially limited, and I can't plug my laptop into the ethernet since it is not U-M owned (that is library policy, I could when I worked in the Med School's Dept. of Enabling Technologies) | 14:24 |
Wolfger | so Python can do "normal" variable insertion of variables inside print statements, and also C-style formatted (i.e. %s to placehold for string variable) insertion? Why would you ever actually want to do the second of those two things? | 15:13 |
_stink_ | what do you mean by the first of those things? | 15:13 |
Wolfger | print "There are", cars, "cars available." | 15:14 |
snap-l | Wolfger: it's useful for decimal formatting | 15:14 |
_stink_ | ah, ok | 15:14 |
_stink_ | formatting and keeping a string template around for repeated use | 15:14 |
_stink_ | but now % substitution is deprecated, and .format() is what we're supposed to use. | 15:15 |
Wolfger | ah, I understand the latter. Example of decimal formatting? | 15:15 |
_stink_ | http://docs.python.org/library/stdtypes.html#string-formatting-operations | 15:16 |
_stink_ | like number of places to the right of the decimal type stuff | 15:16 |
rick_h_ | ok so two parts | 15:16 |
rick_h_ | one, strings are immutable | 15:17 |
rick_h_ | building a string with + is a performance kill | 15:17 |
rick_h_ | never ever do that | 15:17 |
rick_h_ | .format() is the bomb and does all the fancinesss you want in one function call | 15:17 |
snap-l | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/362/ | 15:18 |
Wolfger | I want fanciness? ;-) | 15:18 |
* snap-l looks at all of his + concatenated strings. | 15:19 | |
snap-l | What should I use in place of +, then? | 15:20 |
rick_h_ | snap-l: .format() | 15:20 |
snap-l | blergh | 15:21 |
rick_h_ | % is gone in pythong3 | 15:21 |
snap-l | print "Sending of " + infile + " with file-type " + data_file_type + " failed" | 15:21 |
snap-l | so instead that would be: | 15:22 |
rick_h_ | print "Sending of {0} with filetype {1} failed.format(infile, data_filetype) | 15:22 |
snap-l | print "Sending of {} with file-type {} failed".format(infile,date_file_type) | 15:22 |
rick_h_ | or | 15:22 |
rick_h_ | print "Sending of {in} with filetype {type} failed.format(in=infile, type=data_filetype) | 15:23 |
rick_h_ | I think works | 15:23 |
rick_h_ | which is generally better since you can do things like | 15:23 |
rick_h_ | data = {in: xxx, type: zzz, size: 999} | 15:24 |
rick_h_ | and just do .format(**data) | 15:24 |
rick_h_ | and it'll match any names that exist4 | 15:24 |
rick_h_ | /exist4/exist | 15:24 |
Wolfger | Now that is fairly sweet | 15:24 |
snap-l | Ah, interesting. | 15:24 |
rick_h_ | but each time you do + it reallocates memeory and builds a new string | 15:24 |
rick_h_ | so "test" + 3 + "bob" + var3 actually builds 4 different strings in memory | 15:25 |
Wolfger | ugly | 15:25 |
rick_h_ | and you end up getting one back and the other 3 have to be garbage collected | 15:25 |
rick_h_ | yea, the .format() is also good for bringing all your 'output messages' to a single file | 15:25 |
rick_h_ | and doing things like | 15:25 |
rick_h_ | print msgs.invalid_file.format(**data) | 15:25 |
rick_h_ | poor mans internalization or string changes from client to client | 15:26 |
_stink_ | rick_h_: so **some_dict is how you take an existing dict and pass it into a function expecting keyword args? | 15:26 |
rick_h_ | right, it loops through the dict turning each key:val into kwargs | 15:26 |
_stink_ | that.... is something i did not know | 15:26 |
_stink_ | thanks | 15:26 |
rick_h_ | yea, very handy for things like that | 15:26 |
rick_h_ | cool when an object implements the dict protocol | 15:27 |
rick_h_ | say you have user.name user.age user.sex | 15:27 |
rick_h_ | you can fill out a whole user page with just html.format(**user) | 15:27 |
Wolfger | screw book learning, I'm just going to ask questions in-channel when rick_h_ is around :-) | 15:27 |
rick_h_ | heh, well like all rules I don't always follow and I cheat and do + if I'm only doing it once in a string kind of thing | 15:28 |
rick_h_ | all my functional tests have "should not be empty: " + str(response) | 15:28 |
rick_h_ | because it's in tests and shorter than the .format() version | 15:28 |
Wolfger | Now is all that dict-passing goodness peculiar to Py3, or is it in Py2 as well? | 15:28 |
snap-l | It's in Py2 | 15:31 |
Wolfger | Also, is there some point at which the size of the dict becomes an issue? I mean, if we're concerned about building 4 strings to print one, are we also concerned that we might wind up passing a 200 entry dict into a print that needs only 1 or 2 of those? | 15:31 |
rick_h_ | well, string operations tend to be looped | 15:31 |
rick_h_ | say you're outputting a csv file or soething | 15:31 |
rick_h_ | you do 4 for each row of the file | 15:31 |
rick_h_ | and yes, dicts can have overhead | 15:31 |
rick_h_ | they'd about 5x more memeory overhead than a namedtuples | 15:32 |
rick_h_ | which is the preferred way to keep data like that if you're going ot have tons of it | 15:32 |
rick_h_ | the dict/object thing is handy since most data can/should be in that format anyway | 15:32 |
rick_h_ | but anytime I have a ton of dicts in a script I start using namedtuples | 15:32 |
_stink_ | what do you lose, then? some dict methods? | 15:33 |
rick_h_ | well namedtuples are only as big as you define them | 15:33 |
_stink_ | ah, ok | 15:33 |
rick_h_ | so if there are 4 properties, you can only have those 4 | 15:33 |
rick_h_ | you can't keep adding to them | 15:33 |
rick_h_ | since they're immutable | 15:33 |
rick_h_ | so you can't update the values as well | 15:34 |
rick_h_ | like a counter or something | 15:34 |
rick_h_ | they behave more like tuples, but with pretty names so it reads much nicer than | 15:34 |
_stink_ | right, gotcha | 15:34 |
rick_h_ | data[1], data[2] | 15:34 |
_stink_ | mutability is the key difference | 15:34 |
rick_h_ | it's data.filename, data.size | 15:34 |
rick_h_ | rgr | 15:34 |
rick_h_ | but if you're processing something known, file fields, data on a file you know, etc, it's much better performance | 15:34 |
_stink_ | yep | 15:35 |
_stink_ | cool, thanks | 15:35 |
rick_h_ | and thus ends python 101 by @mitechie for the day lol | 15:35 |
rick_h_ | homework is due thurs | 15:35 |
_stink_ | my dog ate it | 15:35 |
rick_h_ | psh, must be submitted to the server via git push | 15:35 |
mpiccinato | Anyone using GitHub pages at all? | 15:40 |
rick_h_ | no, I looked into it, but doing it with sphinx docs seemed more compliacted | 15:42 |
Wolfger | wait, what? | 15:48 |
Wolfger | I missed the assignment. | 15:48 |
Wolfger | And now I need Git 101 to submit my homework | 15:49 |
* Wolfger cries | 15:49 | |
rick_h_ | that was a pre-req | 15:49 |
rick_h_ | how did you get in without it? | 15:49 |
Wolfger | dunno. They just let me sign up | 15:49 |
Wolfger | OK, periscope down and back to work. P.S.: I hate stupid rules on the laptop that prevent the wifi from working the instant you plug a cable in, even though the cable is a direct connect to a device :-p | 15:52 |
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snap-l | Wolfger: Are you using VPN? It's likely to keep you from routing crap around | 16:46 |
snap-l | All in the name of security. | 16:47 |
rick_h_ | whoa, just got emailed out of the blue to present at 1DevDay detroit | 17:18 |
rick_h_ | anyone know David Mckinnon? | 17:19 |
rick_h_ | or ever been to 1DevDay? | 17:19 |
greg-g | neither | 17:21 |
ColonelPanic001 | never heard of either | 17:22 |
rick_h_ | http://1devdaydetroit.wordpress.com/ and https://sites.google.com/site/1devday/ | 17:28 |
rick_h_ | looks like | 17:28 |
rick_h_ | cool, michigan based dev conf | 17:28 |
snap-l | rick_h_: That is awesome. When is it? | 17:38 |
rick_h_ | No 4/5th | 17:38 |
rick_h_ | Nov that is | 17:38 |
rick_h_ | opening stuff the evening of 4th | 17:39 |
rick_h_ | conf day is 5th | 17:39 |
Milyardo | rick_h_: What would you present? Alot of the topics seems to about Java | 21:03 |
mpiccinato | rick_h_: david is a good guy, runs the Detroit Java User Group and has setup a couple local dev events | 21:11 |
alpha-01 | Hello? | 21:24 |
Blazeix | alpha-01: hey | 21:25 |
alpha-01 | It works! | 21:25 |
alpha-01 | hello blazeix | 21:25 |
Blazeix | hey, yep | 21:25 |
snap-l | Hello there. | 21:25 |
alpha-01 | I was told this was the place to go to find local michiganders who might be able/willing to assist me with updating my OS | 21:26 |
alpha-01 | any chance that might be any of you? | 21:26 |
snap-l | Um, that depends. | 21:27 |
alpha-01 | i thought so, just wanted to get some sort of conversation started | 21:27 |
alpha-01 | what would it depend on? | 21:27 |
snap-l | What OS you're talking about? | 21:28 |
alpha-01 | ubuntu | 21:28 |
Blazeix | do you know what version? | 21:28 |
alpha-01 | i read 11.04 was buggy when you try to thumbstick install it using sandisk | 21:29 |
alpha-01 | so i'd be content with whatever would actually work | 21:29 |
Milyardo | You should be more specific about the version you're trying to upgrade from | 21:30 |
Blazeix | what version are you on now? | 21:30 |
alpha-01 | i haven't been able to get a successful install since the first time i did this which was 8. something | 21:30 |
Blazeix | You can go to the "System > About" menu, I htink | 21:30 |
alpha-01 | so i figure it is time to seek help from others and swallow that granual of pride | 21:30 |
alpha-01 | 8.10 | 21:30 |
alpha-01 | i have a netbook so a live cd is out of the question... | 21:31 |
alpha-01 | and while i can get the machine to boot from the usb, it hangs at one point and just won't go anyfurther, gives up, and loads 8.10 | 21:32 |
snap-l | alpha-01: I don't believe you can upgrade from 8.10 to 11.04 directly | 21:33 |
snap-l | because the intervening versions aren't there | 21:34 |
alpha-01 | i've also tried 10.04 to no avail | 21:34 |
snap-l | and you'll likely get messed up | 21:34 |
alpha-01 | explains a lot | 21:34 |
Milyardo | alpha-01: What netbook? | 21:35 |
Milyardo | and what CD image are you trying to put on the UDB drive? | 21:35 |
Milyardo | *USB | 21:35 |
alpha-01 | ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386 | 21:36 |
snap-l | How are you putting the image on the USB key? | 21:39 |
alpha-01 | sorry for the disappearing act | 21:43 |
alpha-01 | ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso | 21:44 |
alpha-01 | anybody there? | 21:46 |
alpha-01 | anybody? | 21:49 |
alpha-01 | somebody, anybody! | 21:57 |
alpha-01 | I am sorry for leaving you | 21:57 |
alpha-01 | I won't ever do it again... | 21:57 |
Blazeix | alpha-01: don't worry about it, some of us are busy. are you using usb-creator to create the usb stick? | 22:02 |
alpha-01 | "create a usb start up disk" part of ubuntu 8.10 admin apps. | 22:03 |
alpha-01 | so i am guessing the likelihood of finding another michigander is a little less than likely. Know thought that I still heartilly appreciate your effort. | 22:08 |
alpha-01 | ok, different question. what must i do to join an additional room? | 22:22 |
alpha-01 | or channel as i believe they might be called here. | 22:22 |
_stink_ | alpha-01: just do /join #whateveryouwant | 22:22 |
alpha-01 | thanks stink | 22:23 |
_stink_ | np | 22:23 |
Milyardo | "i am guessing the likelihood of finding another michigander is a little less than likely", I know Flint's a ghost town, but I don't think its that bad | 22:25 |
Milyardo | :) | 22:25 |
alpha-01 | detroit is closer, but then again, how many detroiter's use ubuntu, and of that number, how many in this channel right now? | 22:26 |
alpha-01 | :) | 22:26 |
_stink_ | alpha-01: do you have another machine handy? one with a CD ROM drive? | 22:42 |
_stink_ | there are utilities for XP (and i guess for win7, not that i would know) that can make a bootable ubuntu USB drive | 22:43 |
_stink_ | might be your best bet | 22:43 |
alpha-01 | i might try that | 22:44 |
alpha-01 | other machine has no internet though so it will take a couple extra steps | 22:45 |
alpha-01 | thanks for the input | 22:45 |
rick_h_ | Milyardo: something about Python. I'm token divisertiy :) | 22:46 |
rick_h_ | mpiccinato: ah cool | 22:46 |
_stink_ | alpha-01: yeah, gotta get the ISO file onto the other machine somehow. | 22:47 |
alpha-01 | the regular install .iso? | 22:47 |
_stink_ | yeah - those USB creation tools always want you to be able to point at the iso file on the local machine's hard drive somewhere. | 22:48 |
_stink_ | and if that machine's not on the internets, you'll have to shuffle it via USB or something. | 22:49 |
alpha-01 | i have that already | 22:49 |
_stink_ | cool. you just have to get it on the machine you'll create the bootable USB from. | 22:49 |
alpha-01 | ubuntu has an app to convert it to bootable usb form. | 22:49 |
alpha-01 | but it doesn't work | 22:50 |
alpha-01 | it gets stuck and then gives up and boots regular | 22:50 |
snap-l | Have you verified the media? | 23:34 |
alpha-01 | ?? | 23:37 |
alpha-01 | totally verified...? | 23:37 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: ?? you going back to CC? | 23:40 |
greg-g | rick_h_: yep! | 23:43 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: dude! quit doing awesome stuff :P | 23:44 |
greg-g | alright, email writing time, transition period begins | 23:44 |
rick_h_ | going back to CA then? | 23:44 |
greg-g | yeah | 23:44 |
rick_h_ | boooooo! but yay | 23:44 |
greg-g | :/ :) | 23:44 |
brousch | wait, moving to california? | 23:45 |
brousch | alpha-01: there is quite a large linux user group in detroit | 23:46 |
brousch | snap-l is one of the board members or something | 23:46 |
alpha-01 | really? | 23:47 |
alpha-01 | i thought snap-l was from DC | 23:47 |
greg-g | nope, our snap-l is in Detroit, board member of MUG (http://mug.org) | 23:47 |
brousch | most of the active users in here are in detroit/ann arbor | 23:47 |
alpha-01 | nice | 23:47 |
brousch | alpha-01: when you emailled me, i assumed you were in west mi | 23:48 |
greg-g | MUG is going on right now, so that is why he isn't responding, he just finished giving a preso | 23:48 |
brousch | heh | 23:48 |
alpha-01 | wow | 23:48 |
alpha-01 | where is MUG? | 23:48 |
waldo323 | we're in Southfield now | 23:49 |
alpha-01 | lol | 23:49 |
rick_h_ | http://www.mug.org/map/ | 23:49 |
greg-g | :) | 23:49 |
waldo323 | at the engineering society of detroit office | 23:49 |
alpha-01 | I'm hanging out in madison heights and live in west bloomfield | 23:49 |
alpha-01 | yay oakland county | 23:49 |
waldo323 | :) | 23:50 |
alpha-01 | well, if tyrok led me astray i may i have to meet up with one of you at some point. | 23:50 |
brousch | is this still the unofficial MUG channel or did they get their own? | 23:50 |
brousch | tyrok is the man | 23:50 |
waldo323 | we have one but this remains more active | 23:50 |
alpha-01 | very helpful | 23:50 |
rick_h_ | brousch: mug has its own channel | 23:50 |
rick_h_ | but this is official back channel not to be used on the projector :) | 23:51 |
waldo323 | #mugorg | 23:51 |
brousch | my dad just got wimax out here in the boondocks between ravenna and sparta | 23:52 |
brousch | i'm hooking up the rest of his network | 23:52 |
alpha-01 | intrepid ibex is dead, so he recommended replacing intrepid references with karmic in the etc/apt/sources.list and then upgrading which seems to be working so far. | 23:52 |
alpha-01 | not to the reboot yet, we shall see... | 23:52 |
brousch | hm, risky | 23:52 |
brousch | hopefully you backed up first | 23:53 |
alpha-01 | he had be back up | 23:53 |
alpha-01 | nothing else seemed to work, so hopefully this does the trick. | 23:53 |
brousch | i recommend you back up your home dir and install the newest ubuntu. otherwise you'll have to upgrade through 9.04, 9.10, 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 | 23:54 |
alpha-01 | tried installing 11.04 but i guess it is buggy with a sandisk thumbstick | 23:54 |
alpha-01 | then tried 10.10 to no avail. | 23:54 |
snap-l | greg-g: WHere in CC are you headed? | 23:55 |
snap-l | and COngratulations! | 23:55 |
snap-l | And yes, I'm in Michigan. | 23:55 |
alpha-01 | hopefully after this i can jump to 10.10, otherwise it will be upgrade after upgrade. | 23:55 |
greg-g | snap-l: where in CC? or where in CA? in CA: Bay Area (live in SF-city, work in Mt. View) | 23:56 |
greg-g | in CC: well, working on OER stuff | 23:56 |
greg-g | blog post forthcoming | 23:56 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: did you see that MSU stuff from Titus I linked you to hte other day? | 23:56 |
rick_h_ | CC course stuff for the genome mapping stuff | 23:56 |
greg-g | yeah! that was really awesome looking | 23:57 |
rick_h_ | not sure if that fits your stuff, but figured it was cool none the less | 23:58 |
greg-g | yeah, definitely related | 23:59 |
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