[18:35] <BugeyeD> aight, someone knows this answer ... i'm running firefox5 from the canonical repo; is there a java plugin package available? having issues locating it.
[18:45] <holstein> BugeyeD: if you had one installed, it might just not have one yet
[18:46] <holstein> i usually just do the big bad ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[19:14] <MarkB1> BugeyeD: I just downloaded FF5 into /usr/local/ ... and run ...
[19:29] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: are you saying that your ff5 download included the java plugin?
[19:31] <MarkB1> BugeyeD: let me see
[19:31] <MarkB1> but no, I doubt that
[19:32] <BugeyeD> i've been enjoying ff5 plus noscript, and nothing else. no flash, java, etc. installed both java and flash in order to bang on our latest hp bladecenter, and of course it still fails because the 64bit java doesn't work with the bladecenter crap.
[19:33] <BugeyeD> i'm so ready to go home.
[19:34] <Nivex> i've managed to get away with no java at home. unfortunately I can't kick the Flash habit. it's too pervasive.
[19:50] <MarkB1> BugeyeD: I have the Java plugin, apparently because it was "discovered" already there, for my Debian (sorry, about to return to Ubu) 6 install of Iceweasel
[19:58] <BugeyeD> okay, didn't think ff ever came with java.
[20:01] <MarkB1> BugeyeD: did not come with Java, it found the Iceweasel dirs for Java & other plugins
[20:01] <MarkB1> must be a larger "search path" now, for plugins, than in earlier versions
[23:26] <BugeyeD> MarkB1: i got that, thx
[23:34] <BugeyeD> about 9 out of 10 times when X starts on my laptop, the backlight goes out. only workaround i've found is to cycle power and retry until it stays on. any ideas?
[23:34] <BugeyeD> screen works normally up until X. i can hold the laptop up to a light and see the X image - just no backlight.
[23:42] <BugeyeD> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/776102
[23:42] <BugeyeD> looks like i'm not alone. sucks because plenty folks are suffering. but it means my laptop isn't having hardware probs. :)