[00:26] <cyberanger> acidic: Welcome to the Tennessee LoCo
[00:26] <cyberanger> Unit193: another power loss?
[00:30] <Unit193> cyberanger: Computer just being crappy (Works off and on. I'm just hope I can get it into a working streak)
[00:30] <Unit193> Did I miss anything fun? ;)
[00:31] <cyberanger> well, remind it of what happened to the last one, sit rusting in a landfill, or smelted down in india, the key is negetive reinforcement ;-)
[00:31] <cyberanger> maybe it'll get the message
[00:31] <cyberanger> Unit193: I think not
[00:48] <Unit193> It just lost connection again... (I can catch it fast so it doesn't disconnect from IRC) Unplug USB, plug back in
[00:57] <cyberanger> seems not much of an issue with a server at a data center
[00:58] <cyberanger> granted, even with that my computer can still go on the fritz, just nobody on IRC notices
[00:59] <Unit193> Both of them are :P  And I don't have the income for that :P
[01:06] <cyberanger> yeah, volunteer IT, forgot
[01:08] <Unit193> Once a week and it's still fun! (+ $4 at the crappy food place and discount too ^_^ pop is good...)
[01:08] <Unit193> 32oz for 1.09 (without the discount)
[01:10] <cyberanger> I enjoyed it mostly
[01:10] <cyberanger> (my folks work at hospitals, nursing)
[03:53] <Unit193> cyberanger: Don't know why it popped now, but I also get cool crap from the hospital (Some sadly don't run *ubuntu all that well {Optiplex GX260})
[03:54] <cyberanger> nice
[03:54] <cyberanger> yeah, you definately don't want hot steamy crap, that's the bad kind ;-)
[03:55] <cyberanger> always nice to see effort being rewarded
[03:55] <Unit193> Haha! Old but not bad :D  This Latitude D810 is really nice!
[03:58] <cyberanger> I take it they are dell fans
[04:00] <Unit193> And you see that as bad? They get business class in bulk (swappable parts)
[04:05] <cyberanger> No, I just haven't seen many bussinesses I've dealt with running dell is all
[04:06] <cyberanger> IBM (now Lenovo) and Panosonic Toughbooks & HP servers mostly
[04:08] <cyberanger> desktops seem less brand loyal, and include dells, but I think I see more HP (slightly) followed by dell & after that is emachines and one alienware (dude was a graphics designer, favored macs but his employer loved domain controllers)
[04:09] <cyberanger> I love linux, but if I kept to linux at work, the bills wouldn't be paid
[04:09] <cyberanger> so I snatch any linux job I can first, then get whatever is left
[04:10] <cyberanger> (well, I should say former work, downsizing)
[04:11] <Unit193> Eh, you got kicked out? (Maybe bad wording here...)
[04:12] <Unit193> (This is the one I hate to see http://paste.ubuntu.com/642358/ but I see way too much on Sigma)
[04:18] <cyberanger> Unit193: not the best wording, too many techs, for too little work
[04:19] <cyberanger> too much payroll for too little income
[04:20] <cyberanger> I'm not sales, I'm not a revinue generator, I'm in repair, meant to fix what's broken, too many fixers for too little problems is all
[04:21] <Unit193> cyberanger: Sorry to hear/bring it up, you seem like a really nice guy and I hope you find another job that you even like soon! (I was saying maybe my wording isn't the best)
[04:22] <cyberanger> yeah, and I wasn't the only one, it's been a little while, no suprise, in time there will be another
[04:44] <cyberanger> and you didn't bring it up I did
[04:49] <cyberanger> it happens
[04:51] <cyberanger> our age group has high unemployment, my age (21) is only slightly better than 16 (earliest the US Gov't counts) to 19
[04:52] <cyberanger> it's not desired, but expected
[05:02] <Unit193> B-cause we (the young) is stupids ;)
[05:10] <cyberanger> more like we lack (proof of) good work ethic, compared to our older colluges, we can afford a few more hardships
[05:10] <cyberanger> we have our whole life ahead of us
[05:12] <cyberanger> after a point the skills you have are relied on more, we can have whatever skills we're trained for
[05:14] <cyberanger> it's not great, but it is somewhat realistic, if you've done one thing for 5-10 years, you don't need training, you have it or not
[05:14] <cyberanger> and they don't spend much training on them, for that matter
[05:21] <Unit193> I'm going to have to get some college/certs if I'm going to go into IS/IT, else I'll have to get a crappy job :/
[05:26] <cyberanger> I've heard they're largely ignored, let my linux+ expire for the time being
[05:27] <cyberanger> it might have been an edge with something else next to it
[05:28] <Unit193> I don't mean to pry, but what type of college/certs did you get/do you have? (Feel free to ignore this one)
[06:23] <Unit193> I'm going to kill this... -_- (I just KNOW it's going to drop out again before the morning)
[06:30] <cyberanger> I plan on finishing everything, but in progress (with work being a better value for the tight budget, doing that as much as I can)
[06:31] <cyberanger> I have a Computer Information Science Degree being worked on, had a Linux Plus cert (they expire every 2 years, retest to renew, but I can't afford to retest atm)
[06:31] <cyberanger> Unit193: ^
[06:31] <cyberanger> sorry, had to run for a little bit
[06:32] <Unit193> cyberanger: Thanks and no problem! As I would like to go into mostly the same (?) line of work as you, it's nice to know what others can get work with :)
[06:33] <cyberanger> Unit193: I got work with nothing, at first
[06:33] <cyberanger> and my linux+ cert probally fell in less value compared to actual experience
[06:34] <cyberanger> (I've been the president of my local LUG (an easy feat, ask when the next meeting is, and your appointed/drafted club president till the next meeting, which your sole duty is to set up ;-))
[06:35] <Unit193> I'm going to see if I can get a job at where I volunteer (I have been told to apply, but I haven't yet :/ )
[06:35] <cyberanger> (and then my various roles here, in this LoCo)
[06:36] <cyberanger> and finally, chatting the IT Dept up (rarely does HR mind, since I still formally apply through them, but I see IT at confrences and such, no intent to bypass the chain any) has shown knowledge that HR wouldn't screen for
[06:37] <cyberanger> Unit193: at this hospital?
[06:40] <Unit193> Yep!
[06:41] <cyberanger> are you out of high school, graduate?
[06:41] <Unit193> Yes I am
[06:46] <cyberanger> then if I were you, if they want you to apply, I'd apply
[06:47] <cyberanger> somebody has your back, usually good to follow the advice, with that kind of support
[06:49] <Unit193> The person is no longer in charge of interviews, but he had a few good points and is the Domain Admin
[06:52] <cyberanger> and a reference, that will look good to the current interviewer (unless there is some presonal feelings one tends to avoid)
[15:46] <Xpistos> ... cricket noises ...
[15:54] <orias> *crunch*
[16:32] <Xpistos> \msg cyberanger are you around?
[16:34] <wrst> ha ha :)
[16:34] <wrst> cyberanger: is all knowing he's always around, Xpistos ;)
[16:35] <Xpistos> wrst: it's true he answered me telepathically and I know now what I must do ...
[16:56] <wrst> ha ha
[18:54] <wrst> greetings pace_t_zulu
[18:58] <pace_t_zulu> hey wrst
[18:58] <pace_t_zulu> i am all over the place lately
[18:58] <wrst> glad you stopped by ;)
[19:19] <pace_t_zulu> thanks man :)
[22:21] <cyberanger> Wow, the one day I'm offline is the day everyone messages me, darn
[22:21] <cyberanger> wrst: except when you need him (me) it seems
[23:40] <wrst> ha ha cyberanger