[00:04] <xubuntu263> <3 Ubuntu <3 Xfce
[00:05] <xubuntu263> only dislike the logo and the name xubuntu
[00:05] <xubuntu263> Ah... installation complete, cya's ;)
[02:27] <gregory_> sound?
[06:10] <andrew__> can someone help me
[06:13] <Sysi> pop a question and see is somebody has an ansver
[06:14] <andrew__> how can i restore the bottom panel to defult in xubuntu 11.04 i removed a seporator that makes it move everything to the middle
[06:17] <Sysi> add separator(s) to side that is near the edge of the screen or to both edges, set it to expand
[06:18] <andrew__> Sysi, how do i set it to expand
[06:22] <Sysi> right click on it → properties
[07:36] <xubuntu-noob> Hi guys;
[07:36] <xubuntu-noob> Do someone knows where I can find the Thunar configuration file ?
[07:41] <Unit193> xubuntu-noob: The one at ~/.config/Thunar/thunarrc ?
[07:45] <xubuntu-noob> Thanks Unit193 it looks like it.
[07:45] <xubuntu-noob> Still, it doesn't seem to store shortcuts on the left bar (for example).
[07:45] <xubuntu-noob> It there another file for this ?
[07:48] <xubuntu-noob> Oh wait I found the wiki.
[07:48] <xubuntu-noob> I guess I'll get most info there.
[07:48] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: Heya.
[07:49] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: Go to a command line and do an ls -l and see who the owner is set on that file/directory.
[07:49] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: If somehow you've messed up like I have in the past, root may be the owner and you can't write to it.
[07:50] <xubuntu-noob> Oh hey CapTech thanks for helping but I think you misunderstood my query ;-)
[07:50] <xubuntu-noob> "Doesn't seem to store shortcuts" was about the config file
[07:50] <xubuntu-noob> I mean : I'm looking for the file that would let me define all shortcuts on the right bar.
[07:51] <xubuntu-noob> For administrative purposes :)
[07:51] <xubuntu-noob> (left bar)
[07:51] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: NP.  I don't use any GUI file managers, so I don't suffer that issue.
[07:51] <CapTech> CLI FTW!
[07:51] <CapTech> LOL.
[07:51] <xubuntu-noob> hehe ;-)
[07:52] <xubuntu-noob> It's for my users though. Working on a 15-computers MS -> GNU migration.
[07:52] <xubuntu-noob> But I should get weapons as powerful as GPO is... like config files :)
[07:53] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: Hang on a sec, I wanna play with Thunar for a moment.
[07:53] <xubuntu-noob> CapTech, :p
[07:53] <well_laid_lawn> I've never been able to find thunars' shortcuts in a file nywhere so I guess they are hardcoded
[07:54] <xubuntu-noob> well_laid_lawn, damn ! That's noobish...
[07:54] <xubuntu-noob> ("would be")
[07:57] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: I'm going to try something real quick and I'll let you know...
[07:58] <xubuntu-noob> Yep thanks CapTech. I'm looking towards plugin btw... may be a solution.
[08:01] <xubuntu-noob> (its not, all plugins are purely user oriented)
[08:08] <CapTech> DOH!
[08:08] <CapTech> I found it.
[08:08] <CapTech> xubuntu-noob: I found it.
[08:09] <xubuntu-noob> Really ?
[08:09] <xubuntu-noob> ?
[08:09] <CapTech> cat .gtk-bookmarks <-- I think that's what you are looking for.
[08:09] <CapTech> ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[08:09] <xubuntu-noob> Doh !!
[08:09] <xubuntu-noob> Nice !
[08:09] <CapTech> Sorry, I had to do some testing first.
[08:09] <CapTech> LOL.
[08:09] <CapTech> grep is your best friend.
[08:10] <xubuntu-noob> Oh... I see the method.
[08:10] <CapTech> Just remember, that grep SOMETHING * and grep SOMETHING .* are two different beasts.
[08:10] <CapTech> :)
[08:10] <CapTech> Does that answer your question?
[08:10] <xubuntu-noob> I think it does ! It also creates new ones but not for now :P
[08:10] <CapTech> ???
[08:11] <CapTech> I don't understand what you mean by that.
[08:11] <Unit193> xubuntu-noob: I would love to know how you plan to lockdown the computers (that is if you plan to)
[08:11] <xubuntu-noob> (like : "Oh, so in facts most applications will share files, like this 'gtk-bookmarks', which, I guess, is made to be used at various places)
[08:11] <xubuntu-noob> Unit193, what kind of lockdown ?
[08:12] <Charybdis> I gotcha.
[08:12] <Unit193> Do you plan to do any type?
[08:12] <xubuntu-noob> Not really.
[08:12] <xubuntu-noob> Atm my users are users on windows... they can change most settings.
[08:12] <xubuntu-noob> It's gonna be the same. They'll not be sudoers, thats all I guess.
[08:13] <Unit193> Cool.
[13:14] <xubot> xubuntu?
[13:14] <xubot> where are U?
[13:15] <TheSheep> !u
[13:16] <xubot> uh Uh?
[13:21] <xubot> Wuld U Dunce wuth mu?
[13:22] <xubot> uhBuhh Buh?
[15:08] <gregory_> anyone aware of a version of visual studio 2005 that is  compatible for use in xubuntu x11 xfc?
[15:21] <orngjce223> Visual Studio is windows only :( you could /see/ if it runs with Wine and/or Mono, but I seriously doubt it.
[15:21] <orngjce223> You may want to ask #ubuntu though
[15:21] <orngjce223> They might have an alternative proram
[15:34] <TheSheep> gregory_: try mono
[15:34] <TheSheep> gregory_: and monodevelop
[15:34] <TheSheep> gregory_: http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[15:35] <TheSheep> gregory_: (of course, better download them from the repositories)
[18:28] <vooze> Anyone have experience with docky? I cant seem to add the launcher to terminal just right, into the dock.. i can add it fine, but it just opens a new window each time.. Not like other programs in docky.. anyone have an idea what could cause this?
[18:30] <Sysi> it happens with every dock-ish application, something with the xfce4-terminal, you could try some other terminal
[18:31] <Sysi> (xfce-terminal also runs every window in same process, it's just weird, other terminals can be too)
[18:34] <vooze> Sysi: thanks for your answer! so i just go for gnome-terminal or?
[18:44] <Sysi> if you like it, I guess it wouldn't be easy to change xfce4-terminal
[18:47] <vooze> Sysi: just using somthing called ROXTerm now.. its pretty nice
[18:47] <vooze> with tabs etcs.
[18:50] <GridCube> !info numptyphysics
[19:02] <GridCube> ubottu, you the man
[19:05] <Sysi> you can /msg her too
[21:04] <fabio> hi from madrid
[21:05] <fabio> have an strategic question, i dont like unity neither gnome3, can i continue using xfce without canonical intrusement?
[21:08] <charlie-tca> You can use gnome 3 and xfce without canonical intrusement, if you don't use an Ubuntu dirivative
[21:08] <charlie-tca> xubuntu is an official dirivative of Ubuntu, thus, Canonical will always play a role.
[21:09] <Sysi> but they're not really interested about xfce
[21:10] <charlie-tca> unfortunately, changes made in Ubuntu do affect Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, UbuntuStudio, Mythbuntu
[21:12] <charlie-tca> There are many distributions out there that Canonical has no part of, we just aren't one of those
[21:13] <Sysi> he wants to say that xubuntu shouldn't change too much, like gnome did, and canonical isn't really gonna fork it
[21:13] <charlie-tca> I can't say such a thing, too many changes have affected Xubuntu
[21:14] <Sysi> but there's hope
[21:14] <fabio> yea thanks guys
[21:14] <fabio> i feel the same
[21:15] <fabio> im a 5 year gnome ubuntu user
[21:15] <fabio> but i think i can run any gnome app here in xfce
[21:15] <fabio> im installing debian too
[21:16] <fabio> so tired of 3d animations an so
[21:16] <fabio> only use gnome-terminal and firefox
[21:23] <Sysi> gnome3 actually feels handy, as long as you've installed the extension for alt-tab and don't use workspaces
[21:24] <Sysi> unity has overdone the menu-thingy and isn't really good on any gpu but I guess the 2d is okay
[21:27] <fabio> im looking the load average with ubuntu and terminals is 1
[21:28] <fabio> on a i3 laptop
[21:28] <fabio> in ubuntu is 0.2
[21:28] <Sysi> you lost X in other line?
[21:30] <fabio> ?
[21:30] <fabio> the pc goes well
[21:30] <fabio> no IOs
[23:15] <CppIsWeird> whats the best ssh tunneling gui for xubuntu?
[23:18] <charlie-tca> !ssh
[23:18] <charlie-tca> If it works in Ubuntu, it should work. I don't know of any, myself