[06:42] <kingmilo> hi all
[06:43] <kingmilo> I am booting the alternate install cd, normally to install LTSP I get the nice graphical install menu and I can push F4 and select to install LTSP. Unfortunately my graphics card cannot show the graphical install menu so I have the text install menu, how do i specify to install ltsp from the text menu?
[10:41] <julian37> hi
[10:42] <julian37> I'm setting up edubuntu on a box I'm going to donate to the local school, and I have a few questions.  anybody here who could give me a hand?
[10:42] <alkisg> !question
[10:43] <julian37> sure, thanks.  I've chosen to install unity and the default setup doesn't seem to have an easy way of browsing the installed apps.  in particular I was hoping there was an easy way for teachers to explore the educational software installed
[10:44] <julian37> did I do something wrong or is the edubuntu menu editor stuff not yet integrated with unity?
[10:46] <julian37> also, if I search for "edubuntu" in the unity application chooser (the lens with the plus symbol), I see all the education bundles (such as "primary bundle") listed under "apps available for download". however, I asked to have them installed when installing from the DVD, and if I go to ubuntu software center they appear to already be installed.  is there some tool I can run to clean this up?
[10:47]  * alkisg hasn't used unity yet, but hang around for a while, others might see your questions and answer them
[10:50] <julian37> thanks. would this question better be asked on #ubuntu?
[10:51] <alkisg> For browsing the apps with unity, yes. For the edubuntu menu editor, here is fine.
[11:01] <mgariepy_> good morning everyone
[11:03] <mgariepy_> julian37, for edubuntu menu editor i haven't tested it with unity so i'm not sure if it works
[11:10] <julian37> everything seems to work fine with classic gnome, but I have the impression unity isn't integrated with edubuntu at all
[11:21] <highvoltage> julian37: yep, that's exactly why classic gnome is default in Edubuntu :)
[11:21] <mgariepy_> julian37, highvoltage told me that edubuntu menu editor works with unity but that it doesn't make unity any nicer ;)
[11:21] <mgariepy_> haha :)
[11:22] <julian37> fair enough, but enabling unity was just a single click on a checkbox and there was no mention of it being experimental or anything anywhere, as far as I can remember
[11:22] <julian37> I'm not complaining, this is free software after all... just trying to help improve the user experience
[11:24] <julian37> I can't remember the exact wording but I don't remember any hint that I'd be shooting myself in the foot with it :-)
[11:26] <highvoltage> julian37: we have a dilemma with the next release. I'd really like to stick with the old-style gnome desktop again, but others argue that we're diverging from Ubuntu too much then (which is a valid arguement), so it's kind of a tough one
[11:28] <julian37> I like unity and I believe that less technical people find it easier to use than gnome, what with applications in plain sight on the left, and easy searching of apps
[11:28] <julian37> (which is why I tried installing it)
[11:28] <julian37> at the same time, I was surprised it doesn't offer any hierarchical browsing at all... is that a matter of unity setup or does it just not support that, do you know?
[11:44] <highvoltage> it's a design decision
[11:48] <julian37> you mean they broke it on purpose
[11:48] <highvoltage> well I guess it's not considered broken
[11:49] <highvoltage> it works perfectly fine in encouraging you to find more apps in the software center (which seems to be one of the goals while browsing the menus)
[11:49] <julian37> yes, I got that impression... sigh
[12:08] <julian37`> anyway, switching to gnome solves my problem.  if I may make one suggestion it would be to add some sort of brief warning to the unity option in the installer saying that it's experimental at this point
[12:25] <julian37`> right, that's all I wanted to say, just a minor suggestion.  thanks for your help, have a good day everybody!
[12:48] <jussi> Has highvoltage woken up yet?
[12:50] <highvoltage> jussi: depends on your definition of woken up
[12:50] <stgraber> jussi: I guess so, he was taling in here an hour ago
[12:50] <jussi> hehe
[12:50] <jussi> highvoltage: mind if I PM?
[12:50] <highvoltage> nope
[19:10] <highvoltage> http://blog.ninapaley.com/2011/07/04/rantifesto/