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| BUGabundo | annnndddd I'm out | 00:26 |
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| charlie-tca | !info wayland | 01:38 |
| ubottu | wayland (source: wayland): display server -- A nano, non-X11 graphical display server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~git20110214.e4762a6a-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 150 kB, installed size 532 kB | 01:38 |
| lolcat | How can I see open network connections in linux? | 02:15 |
| Omega | lolcat: netstat | 02:16 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| chand | Hi | 07:54 |
| chand | I can't get gnome-shell working on Oneiric with or w/o Ricotz testing ppa, gnome session load, then gnome-shell respawn too fast | 07:56 |
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| BUGabundo | bRoas | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:12 |
| KjetilK | Anything else I need to do for this sync than this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librdf-rdfa-generator-perl/+bug/806875 ? | 12:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 806875 in librdf-rdfa-generator-perl (Ubuntu) "Please sync librdf-rdfa-generator-perl from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] | 12:18 |
| === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG | ||
| KNUBBIG | Hey, I use the oneiric alpha in a virtualbox and so of course, I have to use unity. How do I change the theme with the appearance dialog being gone? | 12:23 |
| geser | KjetilK: subscribe "ubuntu-sponsors" else they don't see it (a dev has to ACK your bug before it goes to the archive admins who act on it) | 13:07 |
| KjetilK | geser, ok, thanks | 13:16 |
| Daekdroom | KNUBBIG, it's no longer part of GNOME | 13:21 |
| Daekdroom | You can manually edit it using gconf-editor or install gnome-tweak-tool, which requires gnome-shell | 13:21 |
| ior3k | is it only me or is it just unbelievable the way they butchered gnome 3? Was kde 4 this bad? Actually, was gnome 2 this bad? I can't remember | 13:26 |
| KNUBBIG | Daekdroom: this is quite bitchy as gnome-shell doesn't run unter virtualbox for me so I can't install gnome-tweak tool ... | 13:40 |
| Daekdroom | KNUBBIG, it doesn't run, but all you have to do is install the package and keep using Unity. | 13:52 |
| Daekdroom | ior3k, KDE4 was heavily criticized upon its launch, indeed, but what's so bad about GNOME 3? | 13:53 |
| ior3k | Daekdroom: I can't say for sure, it "feels" like it's trying to restrict itself to a very specific kind of user | 14:06 |
| ior3k | Daekdroom: and I don't understand the decision behind gnome-shell (and unity 3d) too, of, e.g., making the panel part of the shell | 14:07 |
| ior3k | seems to me to be completely agains the unix principle of one tool for the job | 14:07 |
| Daekdroom | If they weren't part of the same thing, it'd be a panel and a dock, not a shell. | 14:07 |
| ior3k | so? | 14:07 |
| ior3k | why unity 2d and unity 3d? the unity 2d panel is quite good | 14:08 |
| ior3k | why not use that on both unity 2d and 3d | 14:08 |
| ior3k | ? | 14:08 |
| Daekdroom | Are they different? | 14:08 |
| ior3k | well, right now they are, the unity 2d one works with gtk2 and the unity 3d one works with gtk3, it seems | 14:09 |
| ior3k | I'd just like to understand why the duplication of effort | 14:09 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. Unity-3D is not friendly to computers that don't have 3D accel. | 14:09 |
| Daekdroom | That's all. | 14:09 |
| ior3k | a simple setting in the panel | 14:10 |
| ior3k | good abstractions would take care of it | 14:10 |
| Daekdroom | I'm not following. | 14:10 |
| Daekdroom | Unity-2D and 3D panels feel exactly the same, except for the GTK themeing that is different. | 14:10 |
| ior3k | Daekdroom: but is the code behind them the same? is there any reuse? | 14:11 |
| ior3k | if both tools would use the same panel, we wouldn't have this difference in behavior | 14:11 |
| Daekdroom | It doesnt matter. Once Unity-2D's panel goes GTK3, it'll still not use the same code. | 14:11 |
| Daekdroom | What difference in behaviour? | 14:11 |
| Daekdroom | The behaviour is pretty much the same. The code is different. | 14:11 |
| ior3k | unity 2d using gtk2 and unity 3d using gtk3 | 14:12 |
| Daekdroom | That is not what I call behaviour. They're made using different toolkits to look as similar as possible. | 14:12 |
| ior3k | Daekdroom: that's my point: one panel = one team working on it = less effort = faster development | 14:12 |
| Daekdroom | Unity2d uses qt and and Unity3D uses nux | 14:12 |
| Daekdroom | I agree on that, but it's not possible to run Unity3D on every machine, so... | 14:13 |
| ior3k | so you abstract away the parts that don't | 14:13 |
| ior3k | and reuse the rest of the code | 14:13 |
| ior3k | doesn't seem like there's any need to write 2 entirely different systems | 14:13 |
| ior3k | same for the dock, etc | 14:13 |
| Daekdroom | They are meant to use the same indicators, for example, but Unity2D has yet to support gtk3. | 14:14 |
| ior3k | right, but if they came from the same codebase you wouldn't see this problem, I think | 14:15 |
| Daekdroom | I suspect that if it was possible, they'd have done it. | 14:16 |
| ior3k | yeah, that's what I hope :) | 14:16 |
| ior3k | but given that gnome 2 panel worked fine with compiz | 14:16 |
| ior3k | and given that, say, gnome-do worked fine both with compositing and without | 14:16 |
| Daekdroom | Unity-2D does work with compositing. | 14:17 |
| Daekdroom | It just doesn't have any bling. | 14:17 |
| ior3k | right, that's true | 14:17 |
| ior3k | which makes it even stranger :) | 14:17 |
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| ior3k | but anyway, it's not my business | 14:18 |
| ior3k | I guess I'm just frustrated because gnome 2 worked just fine for me :) | 14:18 |
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| Dimmuxx | is anyone else missing the network indicator? | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | for several days already | 14:54 |
| dholbach | UDW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek) day 3 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 15:37 |
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| smoser | anyone else having issues with firefox ? | 16:04 |
| smoser | if i have an extension installed, it will fail to start | 16:04 |
| micahg | smoser: extension not compatible? | 16:05 |
| smoser | it segfaults | 16:05 |
| smoser | i've tried 2 different extensions (pentadactly, and viewsourcewith) | 16:05 |
| micahg | smoser: are they binary? they would need rebuilds for Firefox 6 | 16:06 |
| smoser | pentadactyl installs and starts (and works fine) without a browser restart, but then if i have to restart, i segfault | 16:06 |
| * yofel only had one random crash with 6 so far, works fine otherwise | 16:06 | |
| smoser | micahg, i dont think they're binary, i know nothing about extensions. i just click and install | 16:06 |
| smoser | :) | 16:06 |
| micahg | hmm, it was auto-bumped... | 16:07 |
| micahg | actually, I don't know if that's true... | 16:09 |
| micahg | smoser: you could try in a clean profile to see if it's something else you have installed (firefox -P) | 16:11 |
| smoser | yeah. i can try. | 16:11 |
| smoser | reproduces | 16:12 |
| smoser | $ firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote | 16:12 |
| smoser | create new profile | 16:12 |
| smoser | extensions -> install pentadactyl | 16:13 |
| smoser | close browser | 16:13 |
| smoser | start firefox (with that profile) | 16:13 |
| smoser | crash | 16:13 |
| micahg | smoser: does the crash reporter come up? | 16:13 |
| smoser | yeah | 16:13 |
| micahg | smoser: maybe file a crash report and see what the backtrace shows | 16:16 |
| micahg | s/file/submit/ | 16:16 |
| smoser | hm... maybe it is just pentadactyl | 16:17 |
| smoser | i get "there was a problem submitting your report" | 16:19 |
| smoser | micahg, well, i submitted pentadactyl bug http://code.google.com/p/dactyl/issues/detail?id=595 | 16:29 |
| micahg | smoser: k | 16:31 |
| smoser | the browser is useless to me without pentadactyl . | 16:32 |
| smoser | :) | 16:32 |
| CarlFK | $ gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename; /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png | 17:47 |
| CarlFK | yay warty! | 17:47 |
| trism | yeah, that hasn't changed in forever, the worst part is that it is a jpeg | 17:51 |
| yofel | it's there because someone hardcoded the name somewhere so renaming that would be a bit of a PITA | 17:52 |
| coz_ | replace the image with th e same name ? | 17:56 |
| nit-wit | anybody getting the gnome3 look at logon. Is gnome3 the goal of oneiric in the end? | 18:25 |
| Daekdroom | Nice! The multimedia keys started working again. | 18:39 |
| smoser | micahg, i opened bug 810074 | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 810074 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox crashes with pentadactyl installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810074 | 18:40 |
| smoser | as it is not reproducible with binary from firefox of same version | 18:40 |
| h00k | Daekdroom: orly! | 18:45 |
| h00k | Daekdroom: what update fixed it? | 18:45 |
| Daekdroom | I'm not sure. | 18:46 |
| h00k | I'll have to check mine when Ig et home | 18:46 |
| Andre_Gondim | why the last live imagem is from 5th july? | 18:56 |
| Andre_Gondim | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 18:56 |
| trism | Andre_Gondim: my guess is lp 807974, see the comments at the end | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 807974 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Oneiric) "debootstrap fails to install libc6 installing oneiric from natty" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807974 | 18:58 |
| yofel | sounds reasonable, they don't even try to build (as in: no build log on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/oneiric/) | 18:59 |
| Andre_Gondim | thanks | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | The alternate images (Daily) do work | 19:02 |
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| Omega | How do I enable unity-greeter? | 20:02 |
| trism | Omega: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and set greeter-theme to unity | 20:14 |
| * Pici wonders if that landed in the lightdm ppa as well | 20:15 | |
| trism | it actually looks pretty nice, something different anyway | 20:15 |
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| litropy | I'm getting NISSERVER: not found when setting up nis. a recent google search tells me this is likely because ... somehow, a bit alarmingly, my computer has been set to check a server for my password file, or something along those lines. 1) how do I fix it; 2) What's the likelihood I've been hacked? | 20:47 |
| guntbert | litropy: I cannot help but please don't post your question in several ubuntu channels, are you on oneiric? | 20:57 |
| litropy | correct. apologies - chan was quiet. | 20:57 |
| guntbert | litropy: that happens ... as oneiric is still in alpha2 it could be an issue that gets solved soon ... hopefully | 21:02 |
| litropy | Maybe I another issue is easier: I have no time in my panel. Time and Date syspref crashes before loading its window. | 21:03 |
| litropy | -I | 21:03 |
| guntbert | litropy: I'm just lurking here, haven't installed oneiric yet - so again: no idea :) | 21:06 |
| xleelz | I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 2 and tried to install gnome-shell so I could use the gnome 3 interface but it says that there are unmet dependencies and broken packages... what should I do? | 21:06 |
| h00k | xleelz: I don't think gnome-shell integration is complete at the moment | 21:11 |
| h00k | which is why there are unmet dependencies | 21:11 |
| xleelz | h00k, ok, thanks | 21:14 |
| Daekdroom | gnome-shell was broken by evolution-data-server-common update. | 21:21 |
| Daekdroom | It was installable until a few days ago. | 21:21 |
| xleelz | anyone know when they'll fix it? | 21:28 |
| hans_ | Has kernel 3 solved the power regression yet? | 21:53 |
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| IdleOne | !upgrader | 23:55 |
| IdleOne | !upgrade | 23:55 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 23:55 |
| Pici | IdleOne: expecting something different? | 23:55 |
| IdleOne | I was | 23:56 |
| IdleOne | I was wrong | 23:56 |
| IdleOne | Pici: wasn't there a wiki with note on upgrading to +1? | 23:58 |
| IdleOne | notes* | 23:58 |
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