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BUGabundoannnndddd I'm out00:26
charlie-tca!info wayland01:38
ubottuwayland (source: wayland): display server -- A nano, non-X11 graphical display server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~git20110214.e4762a6a-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 150 kB, installed size 532 kB01:38
lolcatHow can I see open network connections in linux?02:15
Omegalolcat: netstat02:16
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chandI can't get gnome-shell working on Oneiric with or w/o Ricotz testing ppa, gnome session load, then gnome-shell respawn too fast07:56
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BluesKajHi all12:12
KjetilKAnything else I need to do for this sync than this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librdf-rdfa-generator-perl/+bug/806875 ?12:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 806875 in librdf-rdfa-generator-perl (Ubuntu) "Please sync librdf-rdfa-generator-perl from debian unstable" [Undecided,New]12:18
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KNUBBIGHey, I use the oneiric alpha in a virtualbox and so of course, I have to use unity. How do I change the theme with the appearance dialog being gone?12:23
geserKjetilK: subscribe "ubuntu-sponsors" else they don't see it (a dev has to ACK your bug before it goes to the archive admins who act on it)13:07
KjetilKgeser, ok, thanks13:16
DaekdroomKNUBBIG, it's no longer part of GNOME13:21
DaekdroomYou can manually edit it using gconf-editor or install gnome-tweak-tool, which requires gnome-shell13:21
ior3kis it only me or is it just unbelievable the way they butchered gnome 3? Was kde 4 this bad? Actually, was gnome 2 this bad? I can't remember13:26
KNUBBIGDaekdroom: this is quite bitchy as gnome-shell doesn't run unter virtualbox for me so I can't install gnome-tweak tool ...13:40
DaekdroomKNUBBIG, it doesn't run, but all you have to do is install the package and keep using Unity.13:52
Daekdroomior3k, KDE4 was heavily criticized upon its launch, indeed, but what's so bad about GNOME 3?13:53
ior3kDaekdroom: I can't say for sure, it "feels" like it's trying to restrict itself to a very specific kind of user14:06
ior3kDaekdroom: and I don't understand the decision behind gnome-shell (and unity 3d) too, of, e.g., making the panel part of the shell14:07
ior3kseems to me to be completely agains the unix principle of one tool for the job14:07
DaekdroomIf they weren't part of the same thing, it'd be a panel and a dock, not a shell.14:07
ior3kwhy unity 2d and unity 3d? the unity 2d panel is quite good14:08
ior3kwhy not use that on both unity 2d and 3d14:08
DaekdroomAre they different?14:08
ior3kwell, right now they are, the unity 2d one works with gtk2 and the unity 3d one works with gtk3, it seems14:09
ior3kI'd just like to understand why the duplication of effort14:09
DaekdroomOh. Unity-3D is not friendly to computers that don't have 3D accel.14:09
DaekdroomThat's all.14:09
ior3ka simple setting in the panel14:10
ior3kgood abstractions would take care of it14:10
DaekdroomI'm not following.14:10
DaekdroomUnity-2D and 3D panels feel exactly the same, except for the GTK themeing that is different.14:10
ior3kDaekdroom: but is the code behind them the same? is there any reuse?14:11
ior3kif both tools would use the same panel, we wouldn't have this difference in behavior14:11
DaekdroomIt doesnt matter. Once Unity-2D's panel goes GTK3, it'll still not use the same code.14:11
DaekdroomWhat difference in behaviour?14:11
DaekdroomThe behaviour is pretty much the same. The code is different.14:11
ior3kunity 2d using gtk2 and unity 3d using gtk314:12
DaekdroomThat is not what I call behaviour. They're made using different toolkits to look as similar as possible.14:12
ior3kDaekdroom: that's my point: one panel = one team working on it = less effort = faster development14:12
DaekdroomUnity2d uses qt and and Unity3D uses nux14:12
DaekdroomI agree on that, but it's not possible to run Unity3D on every machine, so...14:13
ior3kso you abstract away the parts that don't14:13
ior3kand reuse the rest of the code14:13
ior3kdoesn't seem like there's any need to write 2 entirely different systems14:13
ior3ksame for the dock, etc14:13
DaekdroomThey are meant to use the same indicators, for example, but Unity2D has yet to support gtk3.14:14
ior3kright, but if they came from the same codebase you wouldn't see this problem, I think14:15
DaekdroomI suspect that if it was possible, they'd have done it.14:16
ior3kyeah, that's what I hope :)14:16
ior3kbut given that gnome 2 panel worked fine with compiz14:16
ior3kand given that, say, gnome-do worked fine both with compositing and without14:16
DaekdroomUnity-2D does work with compositing.14:17
DaekdroomIt just doesn't have any bling.14:17
ior3kright, that's true14:17
ior3kwhich makes it even stranger :)14:17
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ior3kbut anyway, it's not my business14:18
ior3kI guess I'm just frustrated because gnome 2 worked just fine for me :)14:18
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Dimmuxxis anyone else missing the network indicator?14:47
charlie-tcafor several days already14:54
dholbachUDW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek) day 3 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom15:37
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smoseranyone else having issues with firefox ?16:04
smoserif i have an extension installed, it will fail to start16:04
micahgsmoser: extension not compatible?16:05
smoserit segfaults16:05
smoseri've tried 2 different extensions (pentadactly, and viewsourcewith)16:05
micahgsmoser: are they binary?  they would need rebuilds for Firefox 616:06
smoserpentadactyl installs and starts (and works fine) without a browser restart, but then if i have to restart, i segfault16:06
* yofel only had one random crash with 6 so far, works fine otherwise16:06
smosermicahg, i dont think they're binary, i know nothing about extensions. i just click and install16:06
micahghmm, it was auto-bumped...16:07
micahgactually, I don't know if that's true...16:09
micahgsmoser: you could try in a clean profile to see if it's something else you have installed (firefox -P)16:11
smoseryeah. i can try.16:11
smoser$ firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote16:12
smoser create new profile16:12
smoser extensions -> install pentadactyl16:13
smoser close browser16:13
smoser start firefox (with that profile)16:13
micahgsmoser: does the crash reporter come up?16:13
micahgsmoser: maybe file a crash report and see what the backtrace shows16:16
smoserhm... maybe it is just pentadactyl16:17
smoseri get "there was a problem submitting your report"16:19
smosermicahg, well, i submitted pentadactyl bug http://code.google.com/p/dactyl/issues/detail?id=59516:29
micahgsmoser: k16:31
smoserthe browser is useless to me without pentadactyl .16:32
CarlFK$ gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename;  /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png17:47
CarlFKyay warty!17:47
trismyeah, that hasn't changed in forever, the worst part is that it is a jpeg17:51
yofelit's there because someone hardcoded the name somewhere so renaming that would be a bit of a PITA17:52
coz_replace the image with th e same name ?17:56
nit-witanybody getting the gnome3 look at logon. Is gnome3 the goal of oneiric in the end?18:25
DaekdroomNice! The multimedia keys started working again.18:39
smosermicahg, i opened bug 81007418:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 810074 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox crashes with pentadactyl installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81007418:40
smoseras it is not reproducible with binary from firefox of same version18:40
h00kDaekdroom: orly!18:45
h00kDaekdroom: what update fixed it?18:45
DaekdroomI'm not sure.18:46
h00kI'll have to check mine when Ig et home18:46
Andre_Gondimwhy the last live imagem is from 5th july?18:56
trismAndre_Gondim: my guess is lp 807974, see the comments at the end18:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 807974 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Oneiric) "debootstrap fails to install libc6 installing oneiric from natty" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80797418:58
yofelsounds reasonable, they don't even try to build (as in: no build log on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/oneiric/)18:59
charlie-tcaThe alternate images (Daily) do work19:02
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OmegaHow do I enable unity-greeter?20:02
trismOmega: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and set greeter-theme to unity20:14
* Pici wonders if that landed in the lightdm ppa as well20:15
trismit actually looks pretty nice, something different anyway20:15
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litropyI'm getting NISSERVER: not found when setting up nis. a recent google search tells me this is likely because ... somehow, a bit alarmingly, my computer has been set to check a server for my password file, or something along those lines. 1) how do I fix it; 2) What's the likelihood I've been hacked?20:47
guntbertlitropy: I cannot help but please don't post your question in several ubuntu channels, are you on oneiric?20:57
litropycorrect. apologies - chan was quiet.20:57
guntbertlitropy: that happens ... as oneiric is still in alpha2 it could be an issue that gets solved soon ... hopefully21:02
litropyMaybe I another issue is easier: I have no time in my panel. Time and Date syspref crashes before loading its window.21:03
guntbertlitropy: I'm just lurking here, haven't installed oneiric yet - so again: no idea :)21:06
xleelzI just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 2 and tried to install gnome-shell so I could use the gnome 3 interface but it says that there are unmet dependencies and broken packages... what should I do?21:06
h00kxleelz: I don't think gnome-shell integration is complete at the moment21:11
h00kwhich is why there are unmet dependencies21:11
xleelzh00k, ok, thanks21:14
Daekdroomgnome-shell was broken by evolution-data-server-common update.21:21
DaekdroomIt was installable until a few days ago.21:21
xleelzanyone know when they'll fix it?21:28
hans_Has kernel 3 solved the power regression yet?21:53
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ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade23:55
PiciIdleOne: expecting something different?23:55
IdleOneI was23:56
IdleOneI was wrong23:56
IdleOnePici: wasn't there a wiki with note on upgrading to +1?23:58

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