=== KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [00:26] annnndddd I'm out [01:38] !info wayland [01:38] wayland (source: wayland): display server -- A nano, non-X11 graphical display server. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1~git20110214.e4762a6a-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 150 kB, installed size 532 kB [02:15] How can I see open network connections in linux? [02:16] lolcat: netstat === yofel_ is now known as yofel [07:54] Hi [07:56] I can't get gnome-shell working on Oneiric with or w/o Ricotz testing ppa, gnome session load, then gnome-shell respawn too fast === Debolaz_ is now known as Debolaz === airon90_ is now known as airon90 [11:31] bRoas [12:12] Hi all [12:18] Anything else I need to do for this sync than this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librdf-rdfa-generator-perl/+bug/806875 ? [12:18] Ubuntu bug 806875 in librdf-rdfa-generator-perl (Ubuntu) "Please sync librdf-rdfa-generator-perl from debian unstable" [Undecided,New] === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG [12:23] Hey, I use the oneiric alpha in a virtualbox and so of course, I have to use unity. How do I change the theme with the appearance dialog being gone? [13:07] KjetilK: subscribe "ubuntu-sponsors" else they don't see it (a dev has to ACK your bug before it goes to the archive admins who act on it) [13:16] geser, ok, thanks [13:21] KNUBBIG, it's no longer part of GNOME [13:21] You can manually edit it using gconf-editor or install gnome-tweak-tool, which requires gnome-shell [13:26] is it only me or is it just unbelievable the way they butchered gnome 3? Was kde 4 this bad? Actually, was gnome 2 this bad? I can't remember [13:40] Daekdroom: this is quite bitchy as gnome-shell doesn't run unter virtualbox for me so I can't install gnome-tweak tool ... [13:52] KNUBBIG, it doesn't run, but all you have to do is install the package and keep using Unity. [13:53] ior3k, KDE4 was heavily criticized upon its launch, indeed, but what's so bad about GNOME 3? [14:06] Daekdroom: I can't say for sure, it "feels" like it's trying to restrict itself to a very specific kind of user [14:07] Daekdroom: and I don't understand the decision behind gnome-shell (and unity 3d) too, of, e.g., making the panel part of the shell [14:07] seems to me to be completely agains the unix principle of one tool for the job [14:07] If they weren't part of the same thing, it'd be a panel and a dock, not a shell. [14:07] so? [14:08] why unity 2d and unity 3d? the unity 2d panel is quite good [14:08] why not use that on both unity 2d and 3d [14:08] ? [14:08] Are they different? [14:09] well, right now they are, the unity 2d one works with gtk2 and the unity 3d one works with gtk3, it seems [14:09] I'd just like to understand why the duplication of effort [14:09] Oh. Unity-3D is not friendly to computers that don't have 3D accel. [14:09] That's all. [14:10] a simple setting in the panel [14:10] good abstractions would take care of it [14:10] I'm not following. [14:10] Unity-2D and 3D panels feel exactly the same, except for the GTK themeing that is different. [14:11] Daekdroom: but is the code behind them the same? is there any reuse? [14:11] if both tools would use the same panel, we wouldn't have this difference in behavior [14:11] It doesnt matter. Once Unity-2D's panel goes GTK3, it'll still not use the same code. [14:11] What difference in behaviour? [14:11] The behaviour is pretty much the same. The code is different. [14:12] unity 2d using gtk2 and unity 3d using gtk3 [14:12] That is not what I call behaviour. They're made using different toolkits to look as similar as possible. [14:12] Daekdroom: that's my point: one panel = one team working on it = less effort = faster development [14:12] Unity2d uses qt and and Unity3D uses nux [14:13] I agree on that, but it's not possible to run Unity3D on every machine, so... [14:13] so you abstract away the parts that don't [14:13] and reuse the rest of the code [14:13] doesn't seem like there's any need to write 2 entirely different systems [14:13] same for the dock, etc [14:14] They are meant to use the same indicators, for example, but Unity2D has yet to support gtk3. [14:15] right, but if they came from the same codebase you wouldn't see this problem, I think [14:16] I suspect that if it was possible, they'd have done it. [14:16] yeah, that's what I hope :) [14:16] but given that gnome 2 panel worked fine with compiz [14:16] and given that, say, gnome-do worked fine both with compositing and without [14:17] Unity-2D does work with compositing. [14:17] It just doesn't have any bling. [14:17] right, that's true [14:17] which makes it even stranger :) === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [14:18] but anyway, it's not my business [14:18] I guess I'm just frustrated because gnome 2 worked just fine for me :) === Adys_ is now known as Adys [14:47] is anyone else missing the network indicator? [14:54] for several days already [15:37] UDW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek) day 3 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom === Andre_Go` is now known as Andre_Gondim [16:04] anyone else having issues with firefox ? [16:04] if i have an extension installed, it will fail to start [16:05] smoser: extension not compatible? [16:05] it segfaults [16:05] i've tried 2 different extensions (pentadactly, and viewsourcewith) [16:06] smoser: are they binary? they would need rebuilds for Firefox 6 [16:06] pentadactyl installs and starts (and works fine) without a browser restart, but then if i have to restart, i segfault [16:06] * yofel only had one random crash with 6 so far, works fine otherwise [16:06] micahg, i dont think they're binary, i know nothing about extensions. i just click and install [16:06] :) [16:07] hmm, it was auto-bumped... [16:09] actually, I don't know if that's true... [16:11] smoser: you could try in a clean profile to see if it's something else you have installed (firefox -P) [16:11] yeah. i can try. [16:12] reproduces [16:12] $ firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote [16:12] create new profile [16:13] extensions -> install pentadactyl [16:13] close browser [16:13] start firefox (with that profile) [16:13] crash [16:13] smoser: does the crash reporter come up? [16:13] yeah [16:16] smoser: maybe file a crash report and see what the backtrace shows [16:16] s/file/submit/ [16:17] hm... maybe it is just pentadactyl [16:19] i get "there was a problem submitting your report" [16:29] micahg, well, i submitted pentadactyl bug http://code.google.com/p/dactyl/issues/detail?id=595 [16:31] smoser: k [16:32] the browser is useless to me without pentadactyl . [16:32] :) [17:47] $ gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename; /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png [17:47] yay warty! [17:51] yeah, that hasn't changed in forever, the worst part is that it is a jpeg [17:52] it's there because someone hardcoded the name somewhere so renaming that would be a bit of a PITA [17:56] replace the image with th e same name ? [18:25] anybody getting the gnome3 look at logon. Is gnome3 the goal of oneiric in the end? [18:39] Nice! The multimedia keys started working again. [18:40] micahg, i opened bug 810074 [18:40] Launchpad bug 810074 in firefox (Ubuntu) "firefox crashes with pentadactyl installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810074 [18:40] as it is not reproducible with binary from firefox of same version [18:45] Daekdroom: orly! [18:45] Daekdroom: what update fixed it? [18:46] I'm not sure. [18:46] I'll have to check mine when Ig et home [18:56] why the last live imagem is from 5th july? [18:56] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [18:58] Andre_Gondim: my guess is lp 807974, see the comments at the end [18:58] Launchpad bug 807974 in sysvinit (Ubuntu Oneiric) "debootstrap fails to install libc6 installing oneiric from natty" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/807974 [18:59] sounds reasonable, they don't even try to build (as in: no build log on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/oneiric/) [18:59] thanks [19:02] The alternate images (Daily) do work === yofel_ is now known as yofel === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === guntbert_ is now known as guntbert === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [20:02] How do I enable unity-greeter? [20:14] Omega: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and set greeter-theme to unity [20:15] * Pici wonders if that landed in the lightdm ppa as well [20:15] it actually looks pretty nice, something different anyway === guntbert_ is now known as guntbert [20:47] I'm getting NISSERVER: not found when setting up nis. a recent google search tells me this is likely because ... somehow, a bit alarmingly, my computer has been set to check a server for my password file, or something along those lines. 1) how do I fix it; 2) What's the likelihood I've been hacked? [20:57] litropy: I cannot help but please don't post your question in several ubuntu channels, are you on oneiric? [20:57] correct. apologies - chan was quiet. [21:02] litropy: that happens ... as oneiric is still in alpha2 it could be an issue that gets solved soon ... hopefully [21:03] Maybe I another issue is easier: I have no time in my panel. Time and Date syspref crashes before loading its window. [21:03] -I [21:06] litropy: I'm just lurking here, haven't installed oneiric yet - so again: no idea :) [21:06] I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 2 and tried to install gnome-shell so I could use the gnome 3 interface but it says that there are unmet dependencies and broken packages... what should I do? [21:11] xleelz: I don't think gnome-shell integration is complete at the moment [21:11] which is why there are unmet dependencies [21:14] h00k, ok, thanks [21:21] gnome-shell was broken by evolution-data-server-common update. [21:21] It was installable until a few days ago. [21:28] anyone know when they'll fix it? [21:53] Has kernel 3 solved the power regression yet? === BUGabundo is now known as BUGa_Eureka === omichalek is now known as bng [23:55] !upgrader [23:55] !upgrade [23:55] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [23:55] IdleOne: expecting something different? [23:56] I was [23:56] I was wrong [23:58] Pici: wasn't there a wiki with note on upgrading to +1? [23:58] notes*