| Guest6749 | Anybody: debug XML? | 00:01 |
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| thewrath | hey all | 02:32 |
| thewrath | /join #pctacm | 02:33 |
| philipballew | is there a way to stop the ability to loggin to a root shell when i reboot. it seems like a security hole | 04:46 |
| bioterror | you mean single user | 04:49 |
| bioterror | that RECOVERY | 04:49 |
| bioterror | remove it from grub | 04:49 |
| bioterror | but how does that differ from insert usb or cd with ubuntu or any linux | 04:49 |
| bioterror | and mounting your drives :D | 04:49 |
| philipballew | yeah. recovery from grub. it seemes to me that if someone can turn on my desktop and with no passwords be at a root prompt. | 04:50 |
| M0hi | philipballew: you can edit the GRUB | 04:50 |
| philipballew | im not sure hows its different | 04:50 |
| M0hi | /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 04:50 |
| bioterror | if someone gets inside your house, then he can use any media | 04:51 |
| M0hi | philipballew: the only secured way to protect your machine is to set a BIOS passowrd | 04:51 |
| bioterror | it really just doesnt matter at that point | 04:51 |
| M0hi | thought it can be broke by CMOS removal for some 5 minutes | 04:51 |
| philipballew | i should do that. but someone can still open a root shell? | 04:51 |
| M0hi | philipballew: BIOS password wont even let you load the hardware | 04:52 |
| M0hi | thats the only option or edit the options in /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually | 04:52 |
| philipballew | how so M0hi | 04:52 |
| philipballew | i can just have grub not show | 04:52 |
| M0hi | you can manually remove the entry of the recovery mode in grub | 04:54 |
| M0hi | philipballew: ^ | 04:54 |
| philipballew | M0hi, makes sense | 04:54 |
| M0hi | but if you want a secured machine, go for BIOS password | 04:54 |
| bioterror | if you want secure computer, remove keyboard :D | 04:55 |
| bioterror | take it with you when you leave your home | 04:55 |
| M0hi | LOL | 04:55 |
| bioterror | have you seen anyone carrying keyboard with him | 04:55 |
| bioterror | I have not! | 04:55 |
| M0hi | bioterror: enough plays :P | 04:56 |
| M0hi | philipballew: go for a BIOS password and that will be my suggestion | 04:56 |
| philipballew | M0hi, alright. seemes easy | 04:57 |
| M0hi | =] | 04:58 |
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| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| === raju1 is now known as raju | ||
| tester | anyone up? | 08:48 |
| coalwater | hi tester | 09:27 |
| tester | hi coalwater you know any thing about rematersys ? | 09:33 |
| coalwater | not really, what's that | 09:34 |
| tester | remastersys make a iso of your system | 09:35 |
| tester | and makes it into a live cd/dvd | 09:35 |
| tester | Remastersys is a tool that can be used to do 2 things with an existing Debian, Ubuntu or derivative installation. | 09:36 |
| tester | It can make a full system backup including personal data to a live cd or dvd that you can use anywhere and install.1 It can make a distributable copy you can share with friends. 2 This will not have any of your personal user data in it. | 09:36 |
| === coalwater_ is now known as coalwater | ||
| === raju1 is now known as raju | ||
| coalwater | how can i check what process has the dpkg lock ? | 14:49 |
| holstein | good question | 14:50 |
| bioterror | who locks the dpkg! | 14:50 |
| bioterror | probably update notifier or something else | 14:50 |
| Abhijit | coalwater, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1414092 | 14:50 |
| coalwater | does update notified gain lock by it self? it would be strange if it does | 14:51 |
| coalwater | Abhijit, it's stuck lol, does it take a bit to generate the list ? | 14:54 |
| Abhijit | no idea | 14:54 |
| Abhijit | i just found it marked SOLVED | 14:54 |
| coalwater | lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/coalwater/.gvfs Output information may be incomplete | 14:54 |
| coalwater | is this fine ? | 14:54 |
| bioterror | sure | 14:54 |
| bioterror | :D | 14:54 |
| coalwater | lol | 14:54 |
| coalwater | yea it finished | 14:55 |
| coalwater | update-manager | 14:55 |
| bioterror | is your dpkg unlocked now? | 14:55 |
| coalwater | should i just killall ? or is there another way | 14:55 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 14:55 |
| coalwater | ps: im on ssh, no gui | 14:55 |
| holstein | sudo reboot ;) | 14:56 |
| coalwater | lol | 14:56 |
| coalwater | ok, its unlocked now, apt-get works | 14:57 |
| bioterror | yeah, those automated updates sometimes locks it | 14:58 |
| coalwater | strange | 14:58 |
| bioterror | no it is not | 14:58 |
| coalwater | shouldn't it lock only when i give it password to upgrade | 14:58 |
| bioterror | they use apt-get to check if there's anything to update | 14:58 |
| holstein | you can set up auto updating | 14:59 |
| coalwater | i just mean it should release the lock after the list update and then re lock when actually asked to upgrade | 14:59 |
| holstein | is it over in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades still? | 15:00 |
| coalwater | i don't really know what that is :D | 15:01 |
| holstein | coalwater: in ubuntuserver, theres a promt at install for auto upgrading | 15:01 |
| coalwater | hm, it's not really a server, it's my home pc with dyndns and an ssh server | 15:02 |
| holstein | i set one install up like that, and ran into something like what you had going on, and now i dont | 15:02 |
| truflip | hii so i tried 'sudo apt-get install ndisgtk' per ndiswrapper instruction. | 15:40 |
| truflip | but i'm getting an error about firmware-b43-installer any solution here? | 15:40 |
| holstein | truflip: you wont need both | 15:40 |
| truflip | uhh why.? | 15:41 |
| truflip | hey its u again. haha | 15:41 |
| holstein | with ndis, you literally use the windows driver | 15:41 |
| holstein | those other pacakges are for linux | 15:41 |
| holstein | if you have ndisgtk installed, you'll see 'windows wireless drivers' over in the system menu | 15:42 |
| holstein | you go and get the windows driver for your device from the install CD or web, and point ndis to it using the GUI | 15:42 |
| truflip | yea umm i'm using it right now so i odnt really see it | 15:42 |
| truflip | i'm using LAN | 15:42 |
| holstein | right.. you need to go and get the windows driver from wherever you choose | 15:43 |
| truflip | i cant dig you | 15:45 |
| holstein | truflip: whats up? | 15:45 |
| holstein | the driver you need is not associated in any way with ubuntu | 15:45 |
| truflip | i dont get what you're trying to say. | 15:45 |
| holstein | SO, you have to go and get it... the windows driver | 15:46 |
| truflip | so ok, i download it here right? but how do i install it if the installer is an .exe? | 15:46 |
| holstein | truflip: usually, the .exe will extract the driver | 15:46 |
| truflip | ok let me try that | 15:47 |
| truflip | oh good it saves as and executable | 15:58 |
| truflip | now when i double click it, it opens with archive manager | 15:59 |
| truflip | anyone breathing out there? | 16:02 |
| truflip | firmware-b43-installer ERRORR | 16:23 |
| truflip | hellooooo | 16:37 |
| truflip | heloo | 16:51 |
| truflip | helooanyone out there? | 17:01 |
| holstein | truflip: hey | 17:01 |
| * holstein went out for breakfast | 17:01 | |
| holstein | whats up? | 17:01 |
| holstein | truflip: you might be able to uzip the .exe | 17:02 |
| holstein | you are looking for the driver for your device | 17:02 |
| holstein | it wont say 'driver'... it'll be something like ramdom_or_not_so_random_text.inf | 17:02 |
| truflip | ah ur back | 17:04 |
| truflip | np worried u got sick of me let me find it. | 17:04 |
| holstein | nah... just wanted eggs :) | 17:04 |
| yuler | I've both Compiz and Metacity installed (10.10 + updates, Nvidia 6200), noticed MC is more responsive. Anything I can do to tweak Compiz? If I ditch Compiz for Metacity, I have to figure out why some window overlays are not drawing completely. | 17:04 |
| holstein | open the .exe in the archive manager and see if you see the driver | 17:04 |
| holstein | i usually just unzip or extract, and ndisgtk will look in the directory and use what it can use | 17:05 |
| holstein | yuler: i would be looking at the graphics driver | 17:05 |
| holstein | if you are using the open one, try the proprietary, and viceversa | 17:06 |
| yuler | Using proprietary driver, don't know how to change to open driver | 17:08 |
| holstein | yuler: usually, thats the best case scenario... using the proprietary one | 17:08 |
| truflip | ok i extracted it. now what do i do exactly? i'm sorry | 17:08 |
| holstein | truflip: do you see a file.inf ? | 17:08 |
| holstein | truflip: actually, NM that, just open ndisgtk | 17:09 |
| holstein | you can find it in the system menu named 'windows wireless drivers' | 17:09 |
| holstein | OR, hit ALT+F2 and type ndisgtk and hit entery | 17:09 |
| holstein | enter* | 17:09 |
| truflip | root privelage something | 17:10 |
| truflip | i see the inf file btw. | 17:10 |
| truflip | just found it. weew | 17:10 |
| truflip | ah i found windows wireless! | 17:14 |
| holstein | truflip: i dont remember if i needed to restart or not | 17:14 |
| holstein | i have one card that i use ndiswrapper with | 17:15 |
| holstein | i think it just started working though | 17:15 |
| truflip | holstein, bcmwl6 wardware present: No | 17:15 |
| truflip | didnt ask for me to restart or anything | 17:16 |
| holstein | truflip: lol | 17:16 |
| holstein | it wont | 17:16 |
| holstein | this is a total hack | 17:16 |
| holstein | truflip: i would expect to see that message if i had the incorrect windows driver | 17:16 |
| holstein | i would double check that you have the proper driver | 17:16 |
| holstein | maybe try the one for XP if you DL'd the one for win7 or vista | 17:17 |
| truflip | ok | 17:17 |
| truflip | holstein, is there a way i could find out which driver i need to download? | 17:17 |
| truflip | cuz i used dell.com support earlier and i probably can only get vista version that way | 17:18 |
| holstein | truflip: in a perfect world, broadcom would release the information about that device, then, the driver would just be in the kernerl | 17:18 |
| holstein | kernel* | 17:18 |
| holstein | and you wouldnt need to do anything | 17:18 |
| holstein | broadcom has recently started doing that though AFAIK | 17:18 |
| holstein | truflip: i would literally just get some drivers, and try them | 17:19 |
| holstein | i would try getting them from broadcom instead of dell maybe | 17:19 |
| holstein | its pretty easy to load them up in ndis, and look for that message | 17:19 |
| truflip | holstein, do i have to configure network connection for wireless? maybe? | 17:22 |
| holstein | truflip: not prior to getting the device to load | 17:23 |
| holstein | truflip: you'll just need to fiddle around, and honestly, it might not work | 17:23 |
| holstein | truflip: what device is it again? | 17:23 |
| truflip | what device is what? the laptop or the wireless card? | 17:24 |
| holstein | NM | 17:24 |
| holstein | bcm4315 | 17:24 |
| holstein | found it :) | 17:24 |
| holstein | truflip: im going to do some of the heavy lifting for you... i'll walk you through how i did it | 17:26 |
| holstein | assuming it works... | 17:26 |
| truflip | ok | 17:27 |
| holstein | truflip: try this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/temp/bcmwl6.inf | 17:28 |
| truflip | downloaded | 17:28 |
| holstein | you should *not* trust any random link someone drops in the IRC though.... so let me tell you where and why i have it | 17:28 |
| holstein | i found http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/bcm4315-card-no-wlan0-device-no-wireless-extensions-621795/ | 17:28 |
| holstein | suggested getting the driver from http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-60592-1&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&os=2093&product=3652828&sw_lang= | 17:29 |
| truflip | good enough. :D | 17:29 |
| * holstein appologizes for the long URL's | 17:29 | |
| truflip | ok i just removed the old one i had. | 17:30 |
| truflip | then installed this one from you. | 17:30 |
| holstein | any joy? | 17:30 |
| truflip | Invalid Driver it says invalid driver | 17:31 |
| truflip | maybe i should uninstall then reboot? | 17:31 |
| holstein | yeah... it doesnt have to work | 17:31 |
| holstein | nah... | 17:31 |
| truflip | okie | 17:31 |
| holstein | i would just poke around a bit more, and try some other drivers | 17:31 |
| truflip | i found something. i'll see if it'll work? | 17:31 |
| holstein | thats how you do it though... you can extract the .exe's you get and find the .inf, thats all you need to poing ndis to | 17:31 |
| truflip | to poing ndis to? | 17:32 |
| holstein | point* | 17:32 |
| truflip | ah. | 17:32 |
| truflip | so if i install a drive and it says the hardware isnt present, that means, i got a working hardware but isnt the right wireless card right? | 17:33 |
| truflip | hol | 17:33 |
| truflip | holstein, | 17:33 |
| holstein | truflip: well, thats the theory... thats what i would expect to see | 17:33 |
| truflip | okie | 17:33 |
| holstein | hardware not present, or the other message would make me think its not the proper driver | 17:34 |
| holstein | truflip: you want to make sure theres no hardware switch though | 17:34 |
| truflip | what hardware switch? | 17:34 |
| holstein | if you have a hardware switch that turns the device on and off, and its off, i would expect to see 'hardware not present' | 17:34 |
| holstein | that would be with the proper driver too | 17:34 |
| holstein | truflip: you may or may not have one... i have a machine with a button, and one with a keyboard shortcut | 17:35 |
| truflip | oh i know what u saying. toturn on and off the wireless device | 17:35 |
| holstein | yeah... you want to make sure thats on | 17:36 |
| truflip | holstein, ok i think i have it working cuz i just UP and DOWN arrow thing up on the taskbar | 17:36 |
| truflip | and i'm getting wireless connections. i'm just not connected. | 17:36 |
| holstein | truflip: this will be hardware though | 17:36 |
| holstein | that arrow just says 'networking is happening' in general | 17:37 |
| holstein | doesnt mean the wifi hardware is on or off | 17:37 |
| truflip | but i'm getting signal from a network i know exist. | 17:37 |
| truflip | right now i'm LAN | 17:37 |
| holstein | truflip: yeah? | 17:37 |
| holstein | you cant connect to it? | 17:38 |
| truflip | let me try. | 17:38 |
| truflip | ahh it works! | 17:41 |
| truflip | holstein, you still there? | 17:41 |
| truflip | hello | 17:43 |
| truflip | holstein, it works! | 17:43 |
| truflip | yea i got connection but i was so slow. | 17:43 |
| holstein | truflip: that progress | 17:44 |
| holstein | thats* | 17:44 |
| truflip | wew thought ur gone again. | 17:45 |
| truflip | so i dont really need to install ndiswrapper right? | 17:46 |
| truflip | cuz its installed already...? | 17:46 |
| holstein | truflip: seems like you are using a driver from somewhere | 17:46 |
| holstein | yeah, i shouldnt have assumed | 17:47 |
| truflip | holstein, assumed what? | 17:48 |
| holstein | truflip: that you *didnt* have a current driver | 17:49 |
| zkriesse | hallo all | 17:49 |
| truflip | oh oki. well how i just tried 'sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng | 17:49 |
| truflip | but its still giving me the same error as before. saying about firmware-b43-installed | 17:50 |
| holstein | truflip: you never said anything about aircrack | 17:50 |
| holstein | that is not trivial, and im not sure what you intend to do with that... but i cant/wont help you | 17:50 |
| truflip | D: | 17:51 |
| truflip | that's fine i guess. | 17:51 |
| truflip | answer 1 question though? | 17:51 |
| holstein | infomation is freely available about it though... i would look on the ubuntu wiki's | 17:51 |
| holstein | and forums | 17:51 |
| zkriesse | Wait, why will you not help truflip holstein ? | 17:54 |
| truflip | holstein, ok i'm trying to install macchanger and its giving me firmware-b43-installer error | 17:55 |
| holstein | zkriesse: well, i dont know much about aircrack, thats the main reason, but that would cross over into 'wont' if its to crack some wifi somewhere | 17:55 |
| truflip | that's not aircrack-ng | 17:55 |
| zkriesse | Then what is it | 17:55 |
| truflip | idk. everytime i try to install a program using 'apt-get install' i get the same error all the time | 17:56 |
| truflip | e: sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 17:56 |
| truflip | on top of that is 'firmware-b43-installer | 17:56 |
| truflip | ' | 17:56 |
| holstein | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1-a-171107/ | 17:57 |
| zkriesse | holstein: pm me my friend | 17:58 |
| truflip | holstein, yea i did that earlier | 18:02 |
| truflip | apt-get -f install | 18:02 |
| truflip | apt-get upgrade | 18:02 |
| truflip | and over and over | 18:02 |
| truflip | holstein, same error. | 18:02 |
| truflip | holstein, i'm using ubuntu 10.10. if that would matter | 18:03 |
| holstein | truflip: im not totally sure whats broken... its something to do with that package | 18:03 |
| holstein | truflip: maybe you should try synaptic in the system menu | 18:04 |
| holstein | its a gui | 18:04 |
| holstein | you can try some of the 'fix' options in the menu | 18:04 |
| zkriesse | truflip: Why on earth are you using a wi-fi hacker | 18:06 |
| truflip | just something i wanna learn. but right now all i want is to get my ubuntu get working | 18:06 |
| zkriesse | Ok well learn how to hack with legality behind it... | 18:06 |
| zkriesse | Don't hack others, hack your own internet...secure it up and "hack" it | 18:07 |
| truflip | yea that's what i'm trying sheesh. | 18:07 |
| truflip | i have 2 routers which i wanna hack if i get the programs running. | 18:08 |
| zkriesse | Ok I am also "just saying" | 18:09 |
| holstein | truflip: i know that some hardware is easier than others | 18:09 |
| zkriesse | We may be open source volunteers but we still have ethics | 18:09 |
| holstein | its *not* trivial either | 18:09 |
| zkriesse | Indeed | 18:10 |
| truflip | some say the best way to learn linux is by walking though hardcore linux stuff. and i'm just walking through it to learn linux. | 18:12 |
| holstein | truflip: these are your personal routers? | 18:13 |
| truflip | yep. | 18:14 |
| holstein | WEP is what you want to be using | 18:14 |
| holstein | WPA is still quite challenging AFAIK | 18:14 |
| truflip | AFAIK? | 18:14 |
| holstein | as far as i know | 18:15 |
| holstein | and at the end of the day.. what good is this? | 18:15 |
| truflip | well if my internet fail. which it does from time to time, i would still be able to do my online classes. | 18:15 |
| holstein | i mean, basically what i take from aircrack is... on my router i run WPA, and i change my passwords often | 18:15 |
| holstein | truflip: you can reset your personal router anytime | 18:16 |
| holstein | you dont need to crack it | 18:16 |
| truflip | they're a pain having to do them in the library which i could have been doing something else more entertaining | 18:16 |
| holstein | truflip: if your network goes down, and you hack your neighbors, thats not only illegal, its just *not* cool | 18:16 |
| truflip | yea well if u guys wont help, there's really no hard feelings from me. thanks though | 18:16 |
| holstein | truflip: i would walk next door and say 'im your neighbor and i was wondering if you will let me share your internet' | 18:17 |
| holstein | for a couple bucks a month... when/if mine goes down | 18:17 |
| zkriesse | That way you're being not only honest but also ethical | 18:17 |
| holstein | OR, if you see folks with WEP, go and offer to help them set up their routers for a fee | 18:17 |
| holstein | OR better yet, for access to it | 18:18 |
| holstein | that wont take long to switch them over to WPA, you have access, they are more secure | 18:18 |
| holstein | its a win win | 18:18 |
| truflip | holstein, np | 18:22 |
| aseem | How do you get to know who your BT Guide is ? | 18:43 |
| bioterror | he will contact you | 18:44 |
| aseem | oh okay, thanks :) | 18:45 |
| === prophet is now known as Guest70791 | ||
| Guest70791 | whats the easiest way to get rid of windows if ubuntu was installed via wubi? | 19:04 |
| holstein | Guest70791: are you trying to preserve any data? | 19:05 |
| holstein | easy would be 1. wipe the drive | 19:06 |
| Guest70791 | no most i can just redownload, | 19:06 |
| holstein | if you need to keep something from the ubuntu install, i would probably copy the home directory and reinstall | 19:06 |
| holstein | if you need to migrate that wubi install, you can... i dont think its easy though | 19:06 |
| Guest70791 | would i need anything from the install for it to run properly? | 19:07 |
| Guest70791 | i dont want to have to migrate partitions, looks way too confusing for me | 19:07 |
| holstein | Guest70791: drivers you mean? | 19:07 |
| holstein | nah | 19:07 |
| holstein | in theory, if you install the same version of ubuntu you have in the wubi install, it should end up being identical | 19:08 |
| Guest70791 | would i need a usb/cd to do this, like i think i know what to do, but am still kinda confused, | 19:11 |
| holstein | Guest70791: you can do it however you feel comfortable | 19:11 |
| holstein | Guest70791: you'll need to get the machine booting a CD or USB, and install from it | 19:12 |
| holstein | the installer will ask how you want to partition | 19:12 |
| holstein | one option is 'use entire drive and wipe whatever' | 19:12 |
| Guest70791 | oh okay, and thats the one i want. | 19:14 |
| === Guest7700 is now known as pedro3005 | ||
| Guest70791 | just was wondering if there was an easy way without cd/usb because i didnt have one, but i got one, thanks for the help! | 19:15 |
| holstein | Guest70791: yeah, not easy... theres always an option though... let us know how it goes :) | 19:17 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Guest70791 | one last thing, should i uninstall wubi version before i install from cd? | 19:52 |
| coalwater | just a fast question, bzr pull lp:whatever --overwrite should overwrite my local version right ? | 20:42 |
| _CommandeR_ | Hi there, i currently tried phpsysinfo however for some reason when trying from local it works but from outside it gets to "loading please wait" | 20:51 |
| froq | I have missed Ubuntu time... how are all of you! | 21:14 |
| coalwater | hey froq | 21:15 |
| froq | coalwater, what up coal?! | 21:15 |
| coalwater | not much, checking some bug to fix lol, but i really need to sleep soon | 21:16 |
| froq | coalwater, a bug!!! icky... where is this BUG? | 21:16 |
| froq | brb.... | 21:18 |
| coalwater | https://bugs.launchpad.net/lernid/+bug/810122 | 21:21 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 810122 in lernid "URL's highlighted and opened include trailing comma" [Low,Confirmed] | 21:21 |
| mi6ail1234 | Greetings...I want to ask you how can i update my Java version | 21:26 |
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