[05:01] <ronin___> hi
[06:38] <dholbach> good morning
[07:45] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:45] <iulian> Early start today? :)
[08:10] <dholbach> hi iulian
[08:10] <dholbach> iulian, yep, had to take the dog to the vet
[10:14] <dupondje> 23 bugs waiting for sponsorship :D ohhh
[10:14] <dupondje> sorry for the workload :D
[10:32] <tumbleweed> dupondje: if they are fixing problems, then it's good workload, \o/
[10:40] <geser> dupondje: keep up the workload and soon your sponsors get bored uploading for you and urge you to apply for MOTU :)
[10:46] <Laney> after DIF, I urge you to explain in your sync requests /why/ a sync is necessary though
[10:47]  * tumbleweed has been trying to urge that already :)
[10:48] <tumbleweed> archive admins presumably don't need to see reasons, they just do the sync, but sponsors need to understand why it's a good idea
[10:53] <jtaylor> dupondje: no anwser from sylveste concerning clang yet, better file a bug
[10:54] <dupondje> tumbleweed: most of sync's are because ubuntu delta is now in debian, so we can sync that.
[10:54] <dupondje> normally I noted that ... :)
[10:56] <geser> dupondje: why sync it now and not later?
[10:57] <dupondje> geser: how you mean 'later' ?
[10:57] <Laney> there's "why can we drop the delta?" and "why do we need the rest of the changes?"
[10:58] <Laney> i.e. if there was no delta, would you still be requesting the sync?
[10:58] <geser> dupondje: in the future when there is an upload with useful changes
[10:59] <dupondje> well its better to be in sync with debian again.
[10:59] <dupondje> even if there are no other changes
[10:59] <geser> we shouldn't sync when the only difference is that we don't have the delta anymore (and no other useful (for Ubuntu) changes are included)
[11:00] <geser> dupondje: why? what's the benefit of being in sync right now?
[11:00] <dupondje> that it won't need to be checked a second time ?
[11:02] <dupondje> jtaylor: made a bug
[11:03] <jtaylor> number?
[11:03] <dupondje> just mailed :) no number yet
[11:07] <dupondje> jtaylor: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633739
[11:07] <tumbleweed> you can also just note in MoM that $VER removes the need for any ubuntu delta, and sync it next cycle
[11:08]  * tumbleweed tends to just do the sync straight away (before FF), but there's also no sponsor-time involved
[11:08] <jtaylor> dupondje: you should give more information on the bug, the architecture where it fails, the folder where the header is, the LP bug you showed me and the apparent problem in the patch for that bug
[11:15] <dupondje> jtaylor: added
[12:21] <jtaylor> is dvipng installable on armel? (can't test myself due do libc bug :( )
[12:22] <ogra_> libc bug ?
[12:22] <jtaylor> W: Failure trying to run:  dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-9ubuntu2_armel.deb
[12:25] <tumbleweed> that's more a base-files bug than anything else. jtaylor: You should be able to work around it by creating /var/run
[12:26] <jtaylor> I have var/run
[12:27] <tumbleweed> in the chroot you are debootstrapping?
[12:28] <jtaylor> where is that with -dist?
[12:29] <jtaylor> found it
[12:32] <jtaylor> seems to work, thx
[12:41] <jtaylor> ok I can't install anything
[15:38] <dholbach> UDW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek) day 3 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:45] <dupondje> micahg: fixed sox :)
[15:51] <micahg> dupondje: great!
[15:54] <micahg> dupondje: can you fix the weird space changes in the changelog as well?
[15:56] <dupondje> huh where ? :) it looks fine from here ?
[15:56] <micahg> dupondje: last 7 or 8 sections in the changelog part of the diff
[15:57] <dupondje> ah
[15:57] <dupondje> I see that also
[15:57] <dupondje> grab-merge did that
[15:57] <micahg> dupondje: you probably inherited it from someone else :)
[15:59] <dupondje> fixe
[15:59] <dupondje> d
[16:03] <broder> debian's armhf is the same architecture as armel, right? i.e. if something works on armel, it should work on armhf (though the reverse might not necessarily be true)?
[16:26] <micahg> broder: idk, but this link was just posted in #debian-derivitives: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort
[16:37] <tumbleweed> broder: if you are asking about reptyr, there aren't any armhf porterboxes, so I can't test
[16:50] <dupondje> micahg: could you ACK the merge ?
[16:50] <micahg> dupondje: not right now, jdstrand is piloting though, maybe he could look at it
[16:51] <dupondje> ok :)
[16:51] <Laney> ~
[16:52] <jdstrand> I'll look at it
[16:52] <jdstrand> dupondje: ^
[16:52] <dupondje> thx jdstrand  :) I gave you some work héhé
[16:52] <jdstrand> you did!
[16:52] <jdstrand> dupondje: thanks for all your hard work :)
[16:54] <dupondje> the goal is an empty ftbfs list and empty MoM :p
[18:13] <broder> tumbleweed: it looks like the person that filed that bug is leading the armhf porting effort, so i'm going to assume that he knows what he's talking about
[18:14] <broder> (or at least his company)
[20:26] <tumbleweed> broder: ah, I didn't see the bug
[20:28]  * tumbleweed should subscribe to packages I sponsor... but I trust broder :)
[21:11]  * dupondje is giving jdstrand some work again :p
[21:51] <dupondje> tumbleweed: ?
[21:52] <tumbleweed> dupondje: yeah?
[21:52] <dupondje> youre working on python-djvulibre in debian ?
[21:54] <tumbleweed> I reviewed the most recent upload, I do regular review/sponsorship in debian-python
[21:54] <dupondje> well wanted to sync it
[21:54] <dupondje> but its ftbfs
[21:54] <dupondje> also in debian
[21:54] <tumbleweed> yay :/
[21:55] <Quintasan> tumbleweed: Python magic ;)
[21:55] <dupondje> http://paste.ubuntu.com/643556/
[21:55] <tumbleweed> it built fine two weeks ago
[21:59] <tumbleweed> dupondje: builds for me on sid
[21:59] <tumbleweed> but yes, I see the FTBFS on oneiric
[22:03] <dupondje> weird pbuilder fails here on debian unstable
[22:04] <tumbleweed> dupondje: my local mirror is about 20 hours stale. /me tries against archive.u.c
[22:04] <tumbleweed> err, debian
[22:04] <dupondje> well mine wasn't up-to-date
[22:04] <dupondje> updating & trying again
[22:06] <dupondje> nope fails again
[22:31] <tumbleweed> dupondje: err that's just a stripped translation problem. it's expecting a translated error message, but the lang-packs aren't installed on buildds. I still have no idea why you can replicate it in sid
[22:34] <dupondje> also using pbuilder? Any idea btw how to fix it on ubuntu ?
[22:40] <tumbleweed> either we need to add the lang-pack as a build-dep, or skip that test (or patch that test). None of those are ideal for forwarding to debian, and the upstream author probably isn't interested either.
[23:07] <dupondje> anywaygtg now