[00:01] <Guest96020> ummmm, still wanting answers, got nothing in internet
[00:01] <Guest96020> about my fingerprint device
[00:02] <Zungo> hello?
[00:02] <Zungo> corey?
[00:02] <Corey> Zungo: What part of "no" were you unclear on?
[00:02] <Corey> You're really not helping your case here.
[00:02] <LjL> there's no case to help
[00:02] <Zungo> ummm, i left, ummmm
[00:02] <LjL> oh
[00:02] <Zungo> :(
[00:02] <Zungo> :S
[00:03] <LjL> Zungo: people here are pretty keen on giving second, third and four chances. but i think there has to be a breaking point.
[00:03] <Zungo> i think this notebook is very specific : |
[00:03] <LjL> Zungo: so please try the forums, or askubuntu, and stop coming here because at this point you're not achieving anything
[00:03] <Zungo> kk
[00:03] <Zungo> links?
[00:03] <Zungo> askubuntu: nothing
[00:04] <Zungo> LjL...
[00:04] <LjL> Zungo: http://ubuntuforums.org/ and http://askubuntu.com/
[00:04] <LjL> !support
[00:04] <Zungo> kkk cya
[00:04] <LjL> bye
[00:04] <Zungo> LjL, u told me to come back to solve my case.....
[00:05] <LjL> when?
[00:05] <Zungo> uh,
[00:05]  * Zungo thinks it was the last weekend
[00:06] <Corey> That's not what I show.
[00:06] <LjL> ok, maybe. i wasn't very aware of the situation i guess.
[00:07] <rww> I will re-iterate what I said the last time you were in here, Juest.
[00:07] <rww> 2011-07-08 00:10 < rww> Juest: The second time you were banned, you came in here and agreed to our guidelines, got unbanned, and then got banned the same day for breaking them again. Why would we want to unban you again?
[00:08] <rww> Also, "We already tried the "agree to unban and follow guidelines" route. It did not work. You're on your third time around. Therefore, we're not comfortable removing your ban at this time, so you /have/ to find somewhere else if you want support."
[00:08] <rww> I'm getting bored of saying this. It sounds like Corey and LjL are too. Your inability to listen to what you've been told repeatedly is making your case even worse.
[00:10] <Corey> Juest: Your problem is just that-- YOUR problem.  It's not our issue.  What *IS* our issue is the way you've failed to follow guidelines, constructive feedback, strong suggestions, and finally outright bans.  Continued asking doesn't change anything other than to irritate us further at this point.
[00:14] <Corey> Zungo: Now that we've said all of this, please part the channel.
[00:48] <Corey> bazhang: I was going to use the term "honest," but... :-)
[00:48] <bazhang> hehe
 could you repaste my pastebin to me
[02:03] <bazhang> Python, hi
[02:03] <Python> hi bazhang
[02:03] <Python> :)
[02:03] <h00k> Python: Can we help you?
[02:04] <bazhang> he's forwarded here from #ubuntu
[02:04] <Python> Bye
[02:04] <Python> :)
[02:05] <h00k> Yep
[02:05] <h00k> And is supposed to talk about the ban tomorrow
[02:06] <bazhang> so ignores that, and tries to rejoin, forwarded here? or its after midnight somewhere so that means tomorrow
[02:07] <h00k> it could be.
[02:08] <bazhang> I confused Juest and Python for a minute there
[02:09] <h00k> It could be the same as well
[02:41] <bazhang> bluetooth and broadcom on a single chip? never heard of that
[02:48] <bazhang> ouch!
[02:49] <IdleOne> I've been called out
[02:50] <bazhang> whoa chanserv.py failing me
[02:50] <bazhang> at kb'ing allowoveride
[02:50] <IdleOne> !ot > allowoverride
[02:53] <bazhang> working now
[02:53] <bazhang> allowoverride was saying "either shut up or help" when asked to stop with the enter key earlier
[02:54] <IdleOne> I was willing to let the personal attack slide but then he implied the attack materializing
[02:54] <IdleOne> I took that as a physival threat
[02:54] <IdleOne> physical
[02:55] <IdleOne> allowoverride and magnets return at the same time...
[02:55] <bazhang> he's been warned several times, and removed once
 asdjaputra: xps, its a dual nic/bluetooth trust me
[03:03] <bazhang> IdleOne, just give him enough rope imo
[03:03] <bazhang> he's already annoyed most of the supporters. so just wait until then
[03:03] <IdleOne> I have no problem with him, I just wish he would tone down the attitude a little but he does seem to have a legit issue
[03:19] <magn3ts> Is there a list of #ubuntu ops by IRC name.
[03:19] <bazhang> magn3ts, yes
[03:19] <magn3ts> All I found was a deeply buried list of real names on LP.
[03:19] <bazhang>  /msg chanserv access #channel list
[03:19] <magn3ts> didnt know it was an irc feature, thank you bazhang
[03:19] <bazhang> np
 I can't take it anymore.    <-- any idea?
[04:06] <bazhang> follow channel rules, etc.?
[05:29] <bazhang> augh
[08:31] <bazhang> remastersys is in the Super OS (aka Ubuntu Ultimate) PPA
[08:31] <bazhang> not part of Ubuntu afaik
[08:32] <elky> ohdeargod, that thing hasn't died yet?
[08:32] <ikonia> it's not
[08:33] <ikonia> we can but hope
 bazhang, It is because I am a White hat >?
[08:33] <bazhang> meaning what ^
[08:33] <ikonia> bazhang: a white hat hacker, it's a thing children pretend to be
[08:33] <bazhang> ikonia, thanks
[08:34] <ikonia> it's an ethical hacker, but it's very hard to imagine someone who can't use the OS being one
[08:34] <ikonia> it was what panarchy used to claim to be, a professional white hat hacker
[08:35] <tsimpson> if people claim to  be a "white hat", it's a good bet they are nothing of the sort...
[08:35] <ikonia> exactly
[08:40] <topyli> heh. if anyone introduces themselves as "a hacker" of any sort, it's fairly safe to say "no you're not"
[08:41] <topyli> well, sometimes people do say they're a gnome hacker or something like that
[08:43] <topyli> that would be in akademy or so. "oh i'm just a gnome hacker checking stuff out"
[08:50] <bazhang> opera is in the partner repo?
[08:59] <popey> http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/o/opera/
[08:59] <popey> edgy
[09:05] <bazhang> thanks. seems opera has a deb on their homepage for 11.5
[09:11] <bazhang> ~waaaaaaaa@61.173.91.245   is that the dd= overwrite your drive person?
[09:11] <jpds> Probably.
[09:12] <jpds> You didn't let me mingle with him. :(
[09:12] <bazhang> heh
[09:13] <bazhang> why would someone need the latest 'tar'? Fx I can understand, to an extent, but tar?
[09:16] <jpds> http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/
[09:18] <bazhang> 1.25-3  is natty's version he wants 1.26
[09:27] <popey> i have had to use the 'latest' tar in the past because ubuntu shipped a buggy version
[09:28] <popey> caused dist-upgrade to fall in a massive heap, not nice
[10:08]  * jrib wonders why floodbot banned e_t_
[10:10] <LjL> uh
[10:10] <LjL> the hell
[10:36] <LjL> [12:25:00] *** FloodBot2 has been kicked from the channel by FloodBot2 (Please join #ubuntu).
[10:36] <LjL> gem of the day
[10:41] <jrib> i need to find a place on the web for ~/ubuntu_quotes one of these days.  Added that floodbot2 line and some of the things in here are still making me laugh
[12:20] <glenn_> hi
[12:47] <bazhang> * [impiza] (~impiza@117.97.39.176): impiza1  ban removed?
[12:49] <bazhang> ban evaded unless there are two impiza's completely unrelated
[12:49] <bazhang> err evading
[12:50] <ikonia> no
[12:50] <jussi> bazhang: have you asked him/her about it?
[12:50] <ikonia> remove
[12:51] <ikonia> I spoke in great detail with him yesterday
[12:51] <bazhang> jussi, just witnessed him discussing it
[12:52] <jussi> ahh
[12:52] <bazhang> not even using ubuntu iirc
[12:52]  * jussi missed the whole sitution and havent had a chance to keep up with logs in here yet
[12:56] <ikonia> that ban will hopefully keep him out for a little while until he gets the message it's unacceptable to get mint support
[14:41] <h00k> ubottu: asked if I wanted to unban smallfoot-, I said nothx
[14:41] <h00k> bah
[14:42] <Pici> heh
[15:01] <Python> Hi
[15:03] <Python> I would like to ask for an unban on my account at #ubuntu. Unban or keep banned as you see fit. Thanks.
[15:05] <popey> @btlogin
[15:05] <popey> hello Python
[15:06] <popey> Python: it seems you were banned from #ubuntu recently (and not just once) for not following the guidelines we have set out for users of the channel.
[15:06] <Python> popey: it's my first ban
[15:08] <popey> I'm seeing bans across #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <popey> anyway, it seems ikonia / Pici are responsible for setting the ban(s)
[15:09] <ikonia> hello there
[15:10] <Python> is it permanent ?
[15:10] <ikonia> you summond
[15:10] <ikonia> Python: not at all no, no intention to put a permanent ban on y ou
[15:10] <ikonia> popey: may I interject here
[15:11] <Python> ikonia: glad to hear that
[15:12] <ikonia> Python: you seem to selectivly follow the rules / topics of channels though, that is the main issue we are having
[15:13] <ikonia> Python: are you aware of the channels topics you sit in within the #ubuntu name space ?
[15:13] <ikonia> eg: do you know what each channel is "about" or what it is acceptable to talk about ?
[15:13] <popey> ikonia: feel free.
[15:13] <ikonia> popey: sorry, already have :)
[15:14] <ikonia> jumped the gun
[15:14] <popey> :D
[15:15] <Python> I'm sorry for not following rules/topics
[15:15] <ikonia> Python: is there a reason you chose to ignore the rules, and ignore the people who where telling you multiple times ?
[15:16] <ikonia> Python: and I would appreciate an answer to my initial question of "do you know the topics of the channels you are in ?"
[15:16] <Python> yes
[15:17] <ikonia> Python: ok - is there a reason you are chosing to ignore the topics of the channel and ignore people telling you that it's not the correct place to discuss ?
[15:17] <ikonia> in short "why are you doing this on numerous occasions" ?
[15:17] <ikonia> what is causing this behaviour ?
[15:17] <Python> I don't know..
[15:18] <ikonia> right, so if I remove the ban from #ubuntu - what is to stop you doing it again ?
[15:18] <Python> Maybe impatience
[15:18] <Python> what do you mean ?
[15:18] <ikonia> I can understand that, but why when people tell you it's the wrong place to ask do you ignore it ?
[15:19] <ikonia> I'm trying to understand why you are doing what you are doing and get some sort of understanding and agreement of it not happening again
[15:20] <Python> I didn't noticed that you were telling me it's the wrong place
[15:20] <ikonia> Python: please be honest - you did
[15:20] <ikonia> hello asdjaputra
[15:20] <Python> I were talking in a console
[15:20] <ikonia> I assume you've been asked to join here by Python ?
[15:20] <asdjaputra> hey
[15:21] <asdjaputra> nope, i read !appeals by ubottu
[15:21] <ikonia> oh I assumed as you and Python where talking about his ban you'd been asked to join
[15:21] <ikonia> asdjaputra: is there something we can help you with as I am in the middle of a discussion with Python at the moment
[15:22] <ikonia> Python: won't keep you a minute
[15:22] <asdjaputra> um nope
[15:22] <asdjaputra> i'll leave
[15:22] <ikonia> Python: apologies for the interuption
[15:22] <Python> no problem
[15:22] <Python> I didn't ask for him to join..
[15:22] <ikonia> Python: I believe you do see the message people are telling you to stop talking - this has happened on multiple occasions and you answer to every other question asked to you, apart from the ones that say "please stop discussing that"
[15:23] <ikonia> Python: I understand you didn't ask him to join, that was my wrong assumption
[15:25] <ikonia> Python: if I was to remove the ban, can you promise me you'll follow the topics and if someone ask you to stop talking about a specific topic, you will comply ?
[15:27] <Python> yes
[15:27] <ikonia> Python: and you understand that if you repeat this behaviour again it will be harder to get unbanned ?
[15:27] <Python> yes
[15:27] <ikonia> ok, give me a moment
[15:28] <ikonia> Python: please remember, no debian support in #ubuntu
[15:28] <ikonia> I've removed the ban
[15:28] <Python> thanks and have a good day
[15:28] <ikonia> you too
[17:00] <Pici> 'low quality' irssi themes?
[17:01] <IdleOne> not sure what he is expecting
[17:01] <IdleOne> I mean there is only so much you can do with a theme
[17:01] <IdleOne> unless he wants some cool 3d stuff to happen
[17:05]  * popey reaches out of the screen and bobs him on the nose
[17:05] <IdleOne> hahaha
[17:06] <IdleOne> Now THAT is a theme
[17:06] <Pici> scary.
[17:07] <IdleOne> be funny if every time someone types your nick a hand pops out of the monitor and slaps you in the face
[17:07] <h00k> http://img.flamingeeks.com/2011/02/punch_over_tcp_ip.gif 'eh?
[17:07] <IdleOne> hehe
[17:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> question.
[17:08] <ikonia> go for it
[17:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> are #ubuntu* channels able to be created by any ubuntu member?  Was just curious after i witnessed a statement in #ubuntu about #ubuntuforums
[17:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> which doesn't seem to match the standard #ubuntu-* format
[17:08]  * ikonia looks to the council members to answer this better
[17:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> i THINK its owned by the council but i am not sure
[17:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> should i perhaps go to #ubuntu-irc or w/e the council channel is?
[17:09] <IdleOne> /msg chanserv info #channel iirc
[17:09] <ikonia> it's fine to ask here
[17:09] <ikonia> there are council memmbers here
[17:09] <IdleOne> to see owner/founder
[17:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> IdleOne:  its not owned by the IRC Council user
[17:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> IdleOne:  its owned by...
[17:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> um...
[17:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> *switches tabs*
[17:09] <ikonia> TheEvilPhoenix: I'm just being coy as there is a policy for creating channels and requirements, I'm just not fully aware of them off hand, let me see if I can grab the URL
[17:10] <Pici> TheEvilPhoenix: Technically, anyone is able to create an #ubuntu* channel. The IRCC owns that enire namespace, so they could request that the channel ownership be changed.
[17:10] <IdleOne> well like ikonia said I would prefer a council member answer that one
[17:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> ok
[17:10] <Pici> <- ex council member
[17:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> Pici:  was just checking before i stab the council about a potential issue ;)
[17:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> -ChanServ- Information on #ubuntuforums:
[17:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> -ChanServ- Founder    : jdong
[17:10] <TheEvilPhoenix> that's the main reason i'm curious
[17:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> they have an ubuntu/member/ cloak but i wasnt certain about policies
[17:11] <Pici> TheEvilPhoenix: Many of the loco channels are owned by a loco person, but the IRCC just needs to ask freenode staff to hand over ownership for it to be done.
[17:11] <tsimpson> the IRC council also "own" the #ubuntuforums namespace
[17:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> so my question is: did someone create/reg that channel who was *not* on the council
[17:11] <TheEvilPhoenix> :p
[17:11] <tsimpson> "own" doesn't necessarily mean we are named with access, but that we can ask freenode staff to either give us ownership/powers or to act on our request
[17:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> was just curious because someone in #ubuntu mentioned the channel, and i was curious ;)
[17:12] <Pici> TheEvilPhoenix: That channel existed well before the IRCC did, and it isn't necessary for the IRCC to have any access in a channel.
[17:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah
[17:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> i see
[17:12] <tsimpson> I would say most channels are created by non council members, and we don't have a problem with that in general
[17:12] <Pici> TheEvilPhoenix: If your question is "Is #ubuntuforums an official channel", then the answer is yes.
[17:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> Pici:  yes, that was my question
[17:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> and that answers that
[17:12] <TheEvilPhoenix> thank you for your time
[17:13] <Pici> Its not very active, but its official ;)
[17:13] <ikonia> ok....bye....
[19:22] <topyli> "thanks guys"
[19:22]  * topyli fills in
[20:35] <rww> I don't think that's a popular enough request to need a factoid :|
[20:36] <guntbert> hi, any questions regarding !id3v2.3 ?
[20:37] <rww> guntbert: I don't think it's a popular enough question that it needs a factoid, personally.
[20:39] <guntbert> rww: thats true, on the other hand it took me a long search to find that solution (most posts suggest installing some kde tag editor), so I hoped it might be handy store for that info
[20:42] <Pici> guntbert: Put a wiki page up then, that way if someone needs the info its just a quick search (rather than a long search) away.
[20:44] <guntbert> Pici: good idea, will do :) - I think I could add it to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - ok?
[20:44] <Pici> guntbert: I'm not sure where it should live.  I honestly haven't looked that that wiki page in a looong time.
[20:46] <guntbert> Pici: no problem, I'll just do it :)    thx for your time
[21:36] <LjL> funkyness!