knightwisemorning everyone!05:05
knightwisehey shauno , how are you today05:06
shaunoawake :(05:07
HazRPG(me raising hand in agreement that we is awake)05:07
HazRPGI haven't slept o.O05:07
HazRPGgot home @ midnight, read e-mail... and went "ah fudgesticks" and started doing work05:08
knightwisehey HazRPG05:08
knightwisei'm up too :)05:08
shaunoI pretty much have to atm.  12hr shifts for the next 3 weeks :)05:08
knightwisegetting my geek on in the morning ,05:08
knightwisedoing some intstalls , moving some systems around the house , stuff like that05:08
HazRPGdouble: \o/05:09
HazRPGnothing like kick starting the day, with a bit of geeking/nerding :)05:09
HazRPGor in my case... not actually sleeping o.O05:09
knightwiseyep , prepped my Amahi server to go live , setup secondary subnet in the house for testing , got boxee box installed for reviewing on the website, and currently installing a *cough* windows7 machine for a friend05:11
knightwisewhile downloading the new linux mint to put on my personal machine05:11
HazRPGnot sure if ubuntu 10.10 is going to be my cup of tea yet05:11
knightwise11.04 you mean ?05:12
MartijnVdSor 11.10?05:12
HazRPGer... Freudian slip xD - I meant 11.1005:12
MartijnVdS^5 HazRPG05:12
HazRPGI may end up having to build/find updates for 10.10 indefinitely05:12
knightwisei'm not even going for 11.04 i think05:12
HazRPGMartijnVdS: +1!05:12
MartijnVdSHazRPG: there's Debian.. :) But I've found that it's possible to get used to Unity05:12
knightwisehmm , i thought about giving it a try , but i love consistency05:13
shaunonothing a lil lobotomy can't fix ;)05:13
MartijnVdSshauno: hmm alcohol :P05:13
knightwisei'm downloading the rolling release of mint right now05:13
HazRPGknightwise: I tried it in beta... didn't like it... tried it before release... still didn't like it... installed it on laptop before I went to egypt when it got released... it failed horribly over there... (gladly I always have a USB drive with an installer on it to revert to what I'd consider "stable" version)05:13
shaunoow .. I appear to have left my powersupply at home :(05:14
HazRPGshauno: -1 :(05:14
MartijnVdSshauno: short work day!05:14
knightwiseHazRPG: would you suggest going for another distro / version of mint ?05:14
shaunonaw, it's just going to severely cramp my ability to shoot germans while trying to pass time :(05:15
MartijnVdSshauno: "Laptop's empty. Pub time!"05:15
HazRPGknightwise: personally I dislike mint because it looks too much like windows :/05:15
MartijnVdSHazRPG: you're supposed to be able to install Gnome 3 on oneiric05:15
HazRPGknightwise: my reasoning is, if I wanted something to look like windows, I'd use windows :P05:15
knightwiselol , thats true05:15
knightwisei like mint because it DOESNT look like unity05:15
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I read about that, but I don't know if I like Gnome3 either xD05:15
HazRPGknightwise: what's mint currently rolling with at the moment? Gnome2 or Gnome3?05:16
HazRPGMartijnVdS: Although, I must admit Gnome 3 > Unity so far05:16
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I'm just not sure if I'm ready for such radical changes to my desktop yet :(05:17
MartijnVdSI used Gnome 2 like I use unity now..05:17
MartijnVdSthe launchers are just on the left instead of in the panel05:17
MartijnVdSalso, I still don't know the names of things (lenses? wut?)05:17
HazRPGsee, I'm not a fan of launchers05:17
knightwisesame here05:18
MartijnVdSHazRPG: how do you start programs then?05:18
knightwisecall me oldschool but .. i'm currently running 11.04 with gnome 2 on my Imac05:18
HazRPGMartijnVdS: ALT+F2 xD05:18
HazRPGMartijnVdS: or using the main menu05:18
MartijnVdSHazRPG: too much typing for a terminal ;)05:18
MartijnVdSHazRPG: I like my "OPEN A NEW TERMINAL NAO" button :)05:19
HazRPGI have that too :P05:19
HazRPGjust because CTRL+ALT+T was too awkward for my hands05:19
HazRPGI'm really tempted to actually give Gnome 3 another try, see if I can get use to it05:20
HazRPGbut I like my panels too much :(05:20
HazRPGfeels wrong and dirty to not be able to see instantly at the bottom what I have running05:21
knightwiseI must say , i use a lot of Xforwarding to run apps that i have isntalled on other machines , so it doesnt REALLY matter to me what shell i use , i've kinda "distributed" my computing allthrough the house (and beyond) these days05:21
HazRPG(with full titles)05:21
HazRPGknightwise: heh :P05:21
HazRPGcrap, just noticed the sticky on my desktop!05:22
HazRPG*runs to take out gardening waste*05:22
HazRPGMartijnVdS: what's your "run terminal nao" button?05:24
knightwisedid a jailbreak on my ipad yesterday :)05:24
HazRPGknightwise: score05:25
knightwiseall you need to do is surf to the site with your safari browser on your ipad / ipod05:25
knightwiseet voila05:25
knightwisejust ssh'd into my ipod :)05:26
knightwisei accidently installed the "lubuntu desktop" on one of my remote machines ,05:48
knightwiseand i seem to be unable to get it off .. :(05:49
shaunothat's quite a slip05:49
BigRedSknightwise: what does  an apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop do?06:38
knightwisei tried that but i still get the gui login screen , v06:42
knightwisevery strange06:42
shaunoso, on the plus side, tmux uses a lot less memory than screen.  on the downside, it keeps sticking it's head up it's rear until I kill it.  rather annoying :(06:43
BigRedSknightwise: yu'll probably need to do an apt-get autoremove, too06:44
BigRedS'cause the *-desktop packages just depend upon what's needed for the desktop06:44
BigRedSI think06:44
* BigRedS generally ignores gui things06:45
knightwiseBigRedS: i am starting to agree with you06:45
* knightwise loves his cli irssi06:45
BigRedSgood morning06:46
MartijnVdSHazRPG: it's a big button on the unity bar on the left06:55
HazRPGMartijnVdS: ah06:56
MooDooczajkowski, hi, how are you today?07:01
czajkowskitired woken up by stupid builders at 7:30a07:08
Garyany cute ones?07:12
czajkowskino idea i cant see them to throw things at them07:12
Garyaww, thats so unfair07:12
MooDoobloomin windows server reboots07:14
MooDoomorning daubers07:23
popeyMooDoo: http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_1507:29
TheOpenSourcererall bow to popey the great.07:30
MooDoopopey, yeah i saw it :)  You dislike forums :)       maybe we should do this for ubuntu uk.....:)  would be a laugh :D lol07:31
popeyMooDoo: like we haven't had that discussion a few times before07:32
MooDooi'll pay you a daubers and raise you a popey :)07:32
MooDoopopey, oh i know, just made me smile :)07:32
knightwiseWe could do strip-poker with these cards07:32
AlanBellwe did do profile roulette a while ago07:32
MooDooprintable ones, good for recognising people at events and such :)07:33
AlanBellhttp://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_13 unlucky for some07:33
AlanBellhttp://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_11 nice Union Jack there czajkowski07:34
daubersMooDoo: Wah?07:34
MooDoodaubers, nothing just being silly.....poker/top trumps with the ubuntu community week collector cards :)07:35
daubersOh! Ok07:35
daubersMooDoo: I won't be on one! I've not done anything noteable07:35
MooDoodaubers, neither of i, but you're known in here, i'm sure that's enough :)07:36
daubersAlthough, I have been tempted to buy some blank playing cards, print those out and then actually use them for top trumps at Oggcamp07:36
MooDoodaubers, i'm not going to oggcamp :(07:39
daubersMooDoo: Rubbish :(07:39
MooDoodaubers, darn wife got pregnant ;)  and she'll be 8 months by then, i suppose i better look after her ;)07:40
daubersMooDoo: Yeah... might be the best idea07:41
MooDoodaubers, ooo that reminds me ubuntu baby grow :)07:42
AlanBellI can just picture you in one07:44
MooDooAlanBell, you have a warped mind mr ;)07:44
ikoniadirecthex: the fact that you remembered my pain and have decided to ease my suffering makes me love you more07:46
MooDooikonia, creep ;)07:46
j0nrThe Ubuntu logo might be the perfect shape for a teething ring07:49
knightwiseand here i was thinking that I was a nerd07:50
MooDooknightwise, you are :p07:51
knightwiseMooDoo: ah ..yes ..07:53
knightwiseindeed i am ! :)07:53
* daubers blocks "progressiverecruitment" from the work mailserver07:55
daubers2 spammy emails a day is too much07:55
knightwisehahah :) smtp nazi ! :)07:55
daubersAlso need to print a "Please don't park in these spaces" sign for the idiot in the jag whose parked in our spaces and will probably get walloped by the first delivery lorry of the day07:56
MooDoodaubers, wouldn't worry about that, he'll learn when they have a dent in the car.....happened where i live07:57
MooDoodaubers, someone parked on the wrong side of the road and when asked to move it refused stating they were allowed to park there......fire engine on a call thought differently07:58
daubersMooDoo: Just important to put the "We accept no liability that may occur from you parking in these space when you shouldn't be"07:58
knightwiseor ' Unfortunately your car got smashed by a teenage dalek with anger management issues. We apologise for the inconvenience"08:04
daubersknightwise: Or I just go to halfords, buy a clamp and clamp the bugger.08:05
daubersThere is a sign up saying "Illegally parked vehicles may be clamped"08:05
daubersCharge him £100 for a release fee, then burn the cash in front of him08:05
knightwiseLOL :)08:05
MooDooput one of those windscreen stickers on it that say "don't park here" and rip into little bits when you try to take it off08:05
knightwisethat last bit is the  bomb08:06
JGJonesMooDoo, apparently they already did that at Silverstone for the F108:14
JGJonesOn all the cars or something08:14
JGJonesmy dad who went told me that the stickers that they slap on for the car park was hell to peel off - heat from the sun seem to have welded it to the windscreen08:14
oimona bit like the stickers they used to stick on CDs in hmv08:17
oimonas a teenager i had a bit of OCD about stickers + glue marks on my lovely CD cases,08:17
* daubers gives the vpn server a gentle kicking08:36
bigcalmGood morning awake peoples :)08:36
MooDoobigcalm, hi08:44
* bigcalm ponders which domain to ad a + redirect to09:00
davmor2Morning all09:03
* davmor2 gives czajkowski a prod to make sure shes with us09:03
MooDoomorning davmor209:12
davmor2MooDoo: Morning dude09:14
MooDooczajkowski, wassup....you're being grumpier than normal09:14
davmor2czajkowski: :( that's not a happy face meh it not even a half baked attempt at a decent meh09:14
czajkowskibuilders waking me after I'd only gotten back to sleep at 5am09:14
czajkowskiI swear I slept more as a baby than I do now09:15
MooDoo5am....wow hard life aint it :p09:15
davmor2czajkowski: Ah yeap that would do it09:15
czajkowskisomewhere along the line I forgot how to sleep through the night09:15
MooDooczajkowski, think of it as practive for when/if you have kids :p09:16
davmor2czajkowski: that's easy, when I'm in London next I'll bring the mallet and show you :P09:17
MooDoodavmor2, when i'm in london next i'll bring whisky,it's the same effect :)09:20
czajkowskidavmor2: when are you here next09:21
davmor2MooDoo: czajkowski doesn't do whisky09:21
davmor2czajkowski: 15-19th of august09:21
MooDoodavmor2, s/whisky/something else09:21
czajkowskidavmor2: so after oggcamp09:21
czajkowskidavmor2: I do love my JD!!!!!09:22
MooDoodavmor2, czajkowski JD evening i think then :)09:22
davmor2czajkowski: JD is a bourbon it isn't left in cask long enough to be whisky09:23
daubersWhiskey \o/09:25
daubersJD /o\09:25
jpdsYou guys are going shopping for shoes?09:25
czajkowskiCAKE MAN!09:25
czajkowskidaubers: remember you owe me cake at oggcamp09:25
daubersCake \o/09:25
daubersczajkowski: Yup, I owe a couple of peopl ecake09:25
dauberspeople cake even09:26
daubersProbably just make a big cak09:26
czajkowskidaubers: yes indeeed,09:26
czajkowskibut I'm special09:26
czajkowskiI have to deal with MooDoo and davmor2 on a daily basis!09:26
daubersczajkowski: So what you really need is a supply of custard pies and a catapult?09:27
davmor2czajkowski: Hey no fair we both have to put with you I know which is worse :P09:27
czajkowskidaubers: ohhh yes pie in the face to raise funds for the team09:29
czajkowskiI nominate davmor2 to sit in the chair for the day09:29
czajkowskia quid a pie09:30
czajkowskimake a fortune09:30
davmor2hmmmmm pie09:30
daubersczajkowski: You'd be bankrupt in an hour09:30
czajkowskibut would be so worth t09:31
czajkowskiand others would chip in too09:32
czajkowskiwe could alternate between a davmor2 and a Daviey for pie in the face09:32
davmor2czajkowski: What did Daviey do?09:32
czajkowskiit's Daviey always blame Dave209:33
MooDooczajkowski, you'd miss us if we wasn't here09:36
bigcalmI jumped on the band-wagon: http://cuth.eu/+09:36
bigcalm_Damn you intermittant internet connection in just one server09:45
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gordalso me, http://gordallott.com/+ - its amazing how no matter how many times i have to edit apache config files, i always come away learning nothing09:49
bigcalmgord: I added an extra redirect rule to my urlshortener site to redirect to an existing redirect slug09:52
bigcalmso: /+ -> /gplus -> happy fun time09:52
bigcalmThough I do have the ability to put + at the end of slugs to stop the redirection and see what the original URL is, it won't work for /++ ;)09:53
czajkows1iGary: ping10:00
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gordfor all the fuss some people make about the contributor agreement canonical has, i'v never once sent out a "hey can you sign up to the contributor agreement?" email to a contributor that ever caused a fuss, people seem fairly willing10:19
Garyczajkowski: hey ya, wassup?10:20
knightwisehahahah :) i love Xforwarding :)10:23
czajkowskiGary: tis ok now10:24
davmor2Gary: czajkowski was lining you up for a slap I'll tell you ;)10:26
Garynah, she knows I like them10:26
* Gary tickles cz<tab>10:26
MooDoocan i have a slap please?10:30
* andylockran slaps MooDoo 10:30
MooDooi needed that :)10:32
* Gary tickles MooDoo inappropriately10:36
* MooDoo giggles 10:37
MooDoooh behave10:37
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* davmor2 slaps MooDoo with a cricket bat, anything to help a friend :D10:42
popeyshauno: where did you get your OWC data doubler?10:42
popeyshauno: i.e. did you get it shipped from the US?10:42
shaunoI did10:47
shaunoowc & macsales are the same company. not seen much of their stuff elsewhere :/10:48
shaunofunny enough tho, I ordered it the same day as my ram from the UK.  the datadoubler got here first10:48
popeyshauno: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=macbook+pro+caddy&_sacat=0&_odkw=macbook+pro+dvd+caddy&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l131310:59
shaunodidn't think to try ebay .. I took the lazy option & got it bundled with the ssd & external dvd caddy11:02
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hooverhi all11:10
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daubersurgh, it's a telephone day today.11:42
shaunotelephone day?11:46
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daubersshauno: Constantly on the phone either giving support, or explaining system designs/capabilities11:47
daubersi.e. no actual engineering today11:47
shaunooh.  welcome to my life :p11:47
daubersshauno: This always happens when the bosses and the sales guy are out at the same time11:48
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MooDooy m c a?11:54
daubers\o/ ^o^ o< /o\11:55
* BigRedS bought that on steam the other day11:55
* brobostigon fully expects someone to spell out leters in binary in a minute.11:55
shaunoI woulda, but they didn't have mac bulids :(11:55
BigRedSshauno: I assumed the licenses were transferable11:57
BigRedSare they not?11:57
BigRedSso if i've bought Doom I can play in on a windows box or a mac11:57
* BigRedS ponders trying to get #hacking on twiter to be full of tweets about hacking11:58
oimonmy android hpone space keeps filling up :( need to apply a custom rom soon12:06
oimonrealised that none of my email or notifications had arrived on my phone all day due to space issues12:06
MooDoooimon, cyanogen12:07
oimonyeah, how u getting on with it?12:07
oimonnot looking forward to reinstalling all my apps again though :(12:08
oimonMooDoo: is there part of the process that saves the apps for you?12:09
MooDoooimon, can't remember - try looking at this - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20119-cyanogenmod-7-for-the-htc-desire-cdma-v703-5-may-2011/12:11
oimoncool cheers12:11
knightwiseommwriter is out for the ipad12:14
* daubers misread that as oomwriter and wondered why anyone would want an out of memory writer?12:28
knightwiseah yes12:30
knightwisethat would make a great procrastination tool12:30
* daubers really needs a new videocamera :(12:32
oimonwatching that video clip of dave grohl chuck someone out of his concert lol12:38
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=== kirrus is now known as Kirrus
MooDoo*sigh* i'm so fed up13:02
davmor2MooDoo: that's tends to be the case after Lunch if you were still empty it's time to worry :D13:06
* popey tickles MooDoo 13:06
MooDoodavmor2, smart arse.13:07
MooDoopopey, er not you as well13:07
MooDoo#dd4814 is the new black :) lol13:07
popeyi was || that close to registering dd4814.com :D13:07
popeyand the other one13:08
popeybut now I have said that, MooDoo will do it.13:08
davmor2popey: that's devious13:08
MooDoopopey, nope it's your idea :)13:08
davmor2MooDoo: why you fed up chap?13:08
oimondoesn't look much different from dd4813 though13:08
MooDoodavmor2, just having a lack of motivation day :)13:09
* davmor2 preps the cattle prod13:09
davmor2MooDoo: I can help with that13:09
MooDoopopey, yup looks like both domains are free ;)13:12
davmor2popey: what would you do with it just a page of orange and a page of purple (umh aubergine)13:14
andylockranhappy days13:14
MooDooi would do that, just for the hell of it :D13:15
popeyhowdy howdy howdy13:15
davmor2MooDoo: see popey goes out of his way to find you something to do and your not interested are you ;)13:17
MooDoodavmor2, i've just created a page of dd4824 and i'm not that nasty to have it as a web page......yuk lol13:17
davmor2MooDoo: well the other fun one would be a block of green with one pixel the right colour and play find the dd4814 and have linked to ubuntu.com :D13:19
MooDoodavmor2, if the domains are still available when i get paid, i'll register them :D13:20
oimonhow much do domains cost noawadays?13:20
* oimon has never bought a personal domain13:20
Azelphuroimon something like that13:21
Azelphurlmao, nice pidgin...it's glitched out and is saying there's like 4 of each individual person in this channel13:21
MooDoooimon .co.uk 5.58 which is for 2 years   .com 8.49 for 1 year13:21
MooDoothat ex vat13:22
oimonrather spend it on a curry lol13:26
oimonmy employer gives me unlimited web space if i want it13:27
MooDoooimon, mine too ;)13:27
andylockranmine didn't13:29
oimontrying chromiumos again with my eee pc13:29
MooDooalthough i'm am self hosting at the mo in my garage :D13:29
bigcalmoimon: let me know how you get on13:29
oimonbigcalm: i don't have high hopes..failed a few months ago, can't remember why13:30
hooverhey biggie!13:30
bigcalmAh well13:30
bigcalmHi Hoovie :)13:30
Laneygwibber is quite plainly refusing to show me some tweets13:35
* Laney stabs it13:35
oimoninterested to see gwibber has been rewritten to work properly13:36
MartijnVdSdoes gwibber do g+?13:37
oimonnot yet13:37
oimonnothing does yet13:37
oimondue to lack of api13:37
Laneytried to build the new version13:37
Laneynothing doing13:37
oimonthe only thing that could entice me back to gwibber was a rewrite from scratch :D13:38
davmor2Laney: you in oneiric?  if not then I thing a bunch of stuff won't build as it depend on gtk+ 3.0 iirc13:38
Laneydavmor2: no13:38
Laneyit ends up with some libdee api error13:38
davmor2Laney: it's available in LP libdee it's new to oneiric13:39
Laneyi have it13:40
MooDoohmmmm wonder if the next ubuntu-uk meeting should be a google+ hangout one :) that would be fun :)13:40
Laneyi see, looks like it depends on some unmerged feature13:41
daubersMooDoo: Unless you don't have a G+ account......13:41
MooDoowell there is that :)13:42
davmor2daubers: I think there are enough people that do that we can invite the people who aren't13:42
Laneywe have a build!13:43
daubersdavmor2: We should really do a big meeting where we organise a dozen pub type locations around the UK and have a big hangout that way. 2 or 3 (or more) people to a G+ hangout thing13:44
Laneyoh, no more multiple columns13:45
oimonLaney: would be nice to see a screenshot if poss13:46
davmor2oimon: there is a video13:46
brobostigoni still think, we have had success with mumble, and that works.13:46
Laneyyou don't want to see a screenshot of my desktop13:46
davmor2Laney: you can do just the open window :D13:47
daubershttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 Pastafarianism ftw \o/13:47
* oimon always likes to see desktop screenies13:48
Laneyerm ok13:48
oimonwow looks ugly :-\13:51
Laneyit looks better on the screenshots13:51
Laneyprobably my gtk theme13:51
davmor2oimon: http://ubuntuone.com/p/1487/13:53
oimondavmor2: doesn't work i'm afraid. however found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqoaB5uvm-k13:55
davmor2oimon: that similar13:57
davmor2oimon: I can't wait for it to arrive in oneiric13:58
Laneywah that I can't see my different twitter lists individually13:59
oimonchromium vanilla works on my office laptop but not the eee pc :(14:01
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Azelphurjust had an interesting convo with the irc protocol dev for pidgin :)14:02
Azelphurapparently he's open to patches on implementing all the missing irc support pidgin has14:03
Azelphurpidgin being a full featured irc client = cool, no? :P14:04
davmor2Azelphur: I see you mistake there you put a ? instead of a ! it's an easy mistake ;)14:04
oimonAzelphur: which features?14:05
Azelphurall the unsupported irc commands that do nothing14:05
Azelphurhe seems ok with a "Message from server" mechanic being added to the core, and any unhandled IRC command reply being sent to that14:06
Azelphurwhich would mean full support for all IRC clients \o/14:06
* oimon uses pidgin for irc14:06
oimon+ the irc plugins14:07
Azelphurbut if you try and use any particularly useful commands, stats, motd, rehash, etc etc14:07
Azelphuryou get no reply whatsoever14:07
Azelphurthese can all be implemented reasonably easy in theory :)14:08
Azelphurunfortunately my C's a bit too weak to do it as I'm more of a snakes guy14:08
davmor2pidgin an empathy both do basic chat fine, and irc chat,  but I don't want them to do more than that,  for advanced features use a full blown client it's what they are there for and why they are better :D14:08
AzelphurI don't see why pidgin can't be a full featured IRC client tbh14:08
oimonpidgin is "better" for me because of docky integration14:08
AzelphurI like the multiprotocol myself :)14:09
oimontells me the number of new messages via a number on the pidgin icon on the dock14:09
Azelphurbut yea, it'd be interesting if all the replies could be handled14:10
davmor2oimon: I get the same thing from xchat in unity :D14:10
oimonah, cool14:10
hoovercheers all!14:23
davmor2popey: If you see this do not approach him he is a dangerous axe murderer and Ubuntu and Mac Fanboy ;) http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_1515:00
davmor2popey: you take a serious photo dude :)15:00
popeydavmor2: you are not the first person to suggest I look like an axe murderer15:00
popeyalthough why I would want to kill innocent axes is beyond me15:01
directhexBLARG. who understands django?15:01
* popey points directhex at Daviey 15:01
davmor2directhex: I don't15:01
davmor2directhex I know a man in the pub who might15:02
davmor2popey: haha nice, maybe the axe attacked your family then you'd want to murder it, you know it's true,  you're getting angry with axes now just thinking about it you know you are ;)15:04
popeyi am at peace with axes15:04
dutchiedirecthex: i have been known to write in django once or twice, but nothing particularly deep...15:05
gordi miss django :) it was kinda like minecraft, you started with nothing and built everything yourself rather easily15:05
directhexImportError: Could not import settings 'chronophage.settings' (Is it on sys.path? Does it have syntax errors?): No module named chronophage.settings15:05
davmor2popey: hippy! ;)15:09
* popey points davmor2 at dholbach15:09
davmor2popey: Why?15:09
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AlanBellevening all15:38
popeyPip pip!15:38
brobostigonafternoonings AlanBell15:38
* AlanBell is in the pub so it is evening15:39
davmor2AlanBell: Hello15:39
* brobostigon is jealous of AlanBell 15:40
brobostigonalthough it is beer festival in my local, this weekend, :)15:40
AlanBelltheopensourcerer is here too15:41
brobostigoncool. business or pleasure ? or both.15:42
* popey wonders which pub15:42
davmor2popey: the one by the road15:43
MartijnVdSwith the people?16:24
davmor2MartijnVdS: you been there too16:25
MartijnVdSdavmor2: all the time16:25
brobostigonfternoonings MartijnVdS nd davmor2 o/16:25
MartijnVdSevening brobostigon ;)16:25
davmor2lo brobostigon16:25
popeybrobostigon: found a white eee 90016:25
brobostigonpopey: :)16:26
MartijnVdSit seems like ANY qt app on oneiric + unity is broken atm..16:26
MartijnVdSQWidget::setMinimumSize: (/MainWindow) The largest allowed size is (16777215,16777215)16:26
MartijnVdSCalibre, Picard, VLC16:29
brobostigonpopey: wht cn i do, to acquire it or parts from it, from you, plese.16:30
gordMartijnVdS, fairly up to date, qt apps work fine here16:31
MartijnVdSgord: maximized?16:31
MartijnVdSgord: I don't have appmenu-qt installed, could that me causing it?16:31
MartijnVdScompiz (opengl) - Info: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x4e00042 to texture16:32
gordi use kdevelop as my IDE for unity, i would know if qt was broken ;)16:32
dutchiedirecthex: does ./chronophage/settings.py exist?16:32
MartijnVdSgord: oh and lots of thins like this  throughout the day:16:32
MartijnVdSWARN  2011-07-13 18:25:56 glib <unknown>:0 Failed to fetch view type at /org/ayatana/bamf/application0x11868e0: Method "ViewType" with signature "" on interface "org.ayatana.bamf.view" doesn't exist16:32
gordsounds like your system be crazy16:33
directhexdutchie, yeah. turns out it was a permissions error.16:33
popeybrobostigon: what's up with your one?16:33
MartijnVdSgord: it's a normal Oneiric system as far as I can tell16:33
dutchiedirecthex: ah, ok :)16:34
brobostigonpopey: dead keyboard, due to me bad handling of a cup of coffee. most of the keys are dead.16:34
brobostigonto my*16:35
directhexdutchie, turns out www-data wasn't in the group which owned the files, which only mattered for the file which wasn't a+r16:35
popeybrobostigon: but the computer itself works?16:36
brobostigonpopey: everything up to now, tht i have tested, seems to be working fine, yes.16:36
brobostigoni had some concerns about the touchpad, but that seems to be working fine.16:37
dutchiedirecthex: ah yes16:41
ikoniadirecthex: thank you for the note on custom text tones, you have made my day16:42
ikoniapopey: your collectors card is out of date16:42
directhexikonia, thank keybuk, saw it on his twitters16:42
popeyhow so?16:42
ikoniapopey: it doesn't say Community council16:42
ikoniadirecthex: I'm aroused by this16:43
popeythats not out of date16:43
ikoniapopey: oh : ?16:43
popeythats just "it doesnt fit"16:43
ikoniait's doing you a disservice16:43
MartijnVdSit's not on the other side of the picture? :P16:43
popeyits underneath it16:43
popeypeel it back16:43
ikoniaI was hoping for a picture of his bum in tight pants16:44
MartijnVdSin the alt tag16:44
popeyyou need to get your fingernail right under it16:44
ikonia(on the reverse)16:44
popey⍥ even16:44
brobostigonpopey: i think i might just get s simple usb keyboard, probeblky cheaper than trying to buy a new eeepc keyboard, i dont know yet.16:52
popeywell I am happy to post this one to you16:52
brobostigonpopey: thank you, how much do you want me to paypal you?16:53
popeywell.. have you seen there are loads on ebay16:54
popeymostly under a tenner, many with free postage16:55
daftykinshey all16:55
brobostigonpopey: i havent looked on ebay yet.16:55
popeyI'm kinda busy and it's hard for me to get to the post office, so can't guarantee when I can post it16:55
popeyfor example16:55
popeyso if you're in a hurry, don't want for mine16:55
brobostigonpopey: no,i am in no rush, i digged out the thinkpad we had the xorg issues with, a few years ago.16:56
brobostigoni will also research on ebay, as i havent looked there yet.16:57
brobostigonalthough, as i found out then, it barely runs a terminal, and FF inside 121mb ram.16:57
brobostigonpopey: thank you.16:58
MartijnVdSTime to try chrome/chromium?16:58
brobostigonMartijnVdS: works even slower on this thinkpad. than the version of FF i had on 9.10,16:58
MartijnVdSI think I'll just take my Xoom next week16:59
MartijnVdS(to London)16:59
brobostigonMartijnVdS: but there isnt much me trying to upgrade it. if so, i would probebly be putting debian on it, rather than ubuntu now. as it is more ram friendly.16:59
brobostigonMartijnVdS: and yes, i have chrome nd chromium from that period on this machine.17:01
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: must be a really tough old machine :)17:01
brobostigonMartijnVdS: quite, my thinkpad is/ws, i bought it ten years ago, while at college.17:02
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: <1GHz?17:02
brobostigonMartijnVdS: 333mhz/17:02
MartijnVdSI remember my first laptop17:03
MartijnVdSa 600MHz thingy17:03
MartijnVdStook it to the first UDS (not called that yet) in '0417:03
MartijnVdSdecember of '0417:03
brobostigonMartijnVdS: atm, as it was two years ago, it has openbox, with xterm, and that is about it.17:05
MartijnVdSI sold mine long ago17:05
MartijnVdSfirst, I replaced it with a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam laptop17:06
brobostigonit is my first, i dont think i would ever get rid of it. it is dead reliable aswell.17:06
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPNW824017:06
brobostigonMartijnVdS: :)17:09
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: I had a 1920x1200 screen in 2005 :) that rocked17:10
brobostigonMartijnVdS: cool, :) yeah.17:10
Laneyimagine you have a 500gb drive and 2x1gb in raid 1. how would you lay out a new installation?17:13
MartijnVdS /, /home17:13
Laneyspiffing idea17:14
popeyor put it all on / on raid 1 and use the 500 for backups17:14
MartijnVdSmaybe /data and have /home and /srv be a symlink to /data/home and /data/srv so they share the room17:14
popeyredundancy and backups \o/17:14
MartijnVdSbackups of backups \o/17:15
Laneyi'll probably put /etc on there17:15
Laneyas well17:15
MartijnVdSLaney: that might be harder17:15
MartijnVdSLaney: as /etc is (a) small, and (b) /etc/fstab is required for a few booting bits17:15
MartijnVdSLaney: also, /etc/init*17:15
Laneybefore drives are mounted?17:16
MartijnVdSLaney: only / is mounted at first.. it needs /etc/fstab to mount the rest17:16
MartijnVdSLaney: if /etc/fstab is on a different fs, it won't work17:16
MartijnVdSLaney: also, it won't know it should even do that if there are no init scripts/upstart jobs in /etc because /etc isn't there yet17:17
Laneyyou could do it in the initramfs17:23
MartijnVdSYou could, but it would be fragile and prone to break17:23
Laneynot necessarily17:24
Laneyanyway, i'll probably use etckeeper instead17:25
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AzelphurDoes anyone know what the input device is in this video? it looks pretty awesome :o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTx3G6h2xyA18:29
Azelphuralso, the video in general is awesome, how someone can mix 39 songs together, live, and have it sound that awesome is just plain awesome.18:29
MartijnVdSAzelphur: matrix sequencer?18:32
Azelphurlooks like that's the right sort of thing, but was after specifics :)18:33
MartijnVdSAzelphur: mail them and ask :)18:33
MartijnVdSwhy not?18:34
Azelphuryea, I'll probably drop a comment18:34
MartijnVdSAzelphur: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/10/12/the-livid-block-may-just-be-the-sexiest-matrix-controller-yet/ ?18:35
Azelphurfun :P18:35
MartijnVdShttp://lividinstruments.com/hardware_block.php <-- it seems to be one of these18:35
MartijnVdSmaybe a different model, but definitely like that18:36
Azelphuryea, like that but a different model18:36
Azelphurmaybe not the same manufacturer either :P18:36
MartijnVdSthe buttons look the same..18:36
MartijnVdSslightly brighter in the middle18:36
AzelphurMartijnVdS: found it in the comments, http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=cs&q=launchpad&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2285170420371418399&sa=X&ei=8uUdTvDLDMnNhAemp8nCBw&ved=0CE8Q8wIwAw18:37
MartijnVdSok so it's only 1/4 the price.. :)18:38
Pendulumpopey: is all your 'install Ubuntu on a Mac' stuff about completely wiping the drive before you install or is it using bootcamp?18:41
MartijnVdSAzelphur: you'll probably love Girl Talk as well, if you like mashups like this18:43
AzelphurMartijnVdS: link? :)18:44
MartijnVdSAzelphur: http://illegal-art.net/allday/18:44
* Azelphur downloads18:44
Azelphurpro at masculinity, downloading music called girl talk18:44
MartijnVdSAzelphur: he's a dude though18:45
ali1234Azelphur: he says what it is in the video description. why do people never reeeeaaaaaad it?19:05
Azelphurhaha, I did read it funny enough I just went straight past it19:07
* Azelphur facepalms19:07
MartijnVdSAzelphur: liking All Day?19:07
AzelphurMartijnVdS: downloading, big file19:07
MartijnVdSAzelphur: didn't you select a multi-file version?19:08
ali1234its still OBZ19:08
Azelphurthat's just a zip19:09
ali1234i've got like 800mb of mash ups on a cd somewhere, from like 2003 when this stuff was all the rage and everyone was doing it19:09
MartijnVdSali1234: it's still fun to listen to19:10
popeyevening all19:11
popeyPendulum: "my" "install ubuntu on a mac"?19:11
Pendulumpopey: I thought you'd written up about installing Ubuntu on a mac somewhere19:11
Pendulumah okay. nevermind then :)19:13
daftykinsi've never gotten a proper answer on whether it requires bootcamp use or can just be booted from the disc either, Pendulum19:14
daftykinsnot that i own one, but i helped a couple of people once19:14
Pendulumone of my mates may try Ubuntu used bootcamp19:15
jacobwTense mismatch19:17
MartijnVdSParse error. Core dumped.19:17
daubersMartijnVdS: ewww.... not in the chat room!19:19
MartijnVdSdaubers: but.. but..!19:21
Pendulumit's a brain fail day in my world. the fact that tense match is all I got wrong is good19:26
shaunoI don't think bootcamp is required is the machine is anywhere near recent (say, last 4 years, ish)19:30
shauno*if the ..19:31
Pendulumshauno: the person wants to dual boot for a while to get used to the OS19:31
shaunothat shouldn't be a problem.  the main bit bootcamp helps with now, is shrinking the existing partition & such19:32
AzelphurMartijnVdS: seems pretty good, it's not as impressive when it's not done live though :p19:32
Azelphurit was more impressive because madeon did the whole thing on the fly19:32
ali1234he didn't do the whole thing live19:33
shaunoif the machine is old enough that it came with tiger (10.4) preinstalled, it'd need bootcamp to add the legacy-compatibility stuff to the efi.  if it shipped with 10.5 or newer, it should be good out of the box19:33
ali1234most of the set is programmed into ableton19:33
MartijnVdSAzelphur: http://ripremix.com/ -- watch that :)19:33
Azelphurali1234: a lot of it is live :p19:33
MartijnVdSAzelphur: less than you think19:34
Azelphurgood old copyright19:35
AzelphurMartijnVdS: I can see what's going on, being a musician :p19:36
Azelphurhe's ripped certain parts of the song out before hand19:36
Azelphurand the vast majority of it is him playing the clips live19:36
Azelphureither that or he's just pressing buttons that do nothing in sync with the music :)19:37
Azelphurimpossible to tell the difference though on a pad like that, where as with a piano it's much easier to pick off if someone is actually playing19:38
ali1234all he is doing is muting and unmuting tracks which are all already playing in sync19:39
Azelphuryea, I can see that19:39
Azelphurexcept that he's not, for large parts of the song he's actually got the thing rigged up like an instrument19:39
Azelphurplus he's clearly following all the songs and knows where each one is at when he brings it back in19:40
Azelphurwhich is a hell of a thing to do live19:40
ali1234he knows where it is because he's already cut out and looped and synced that part and programmed it19:40
Azelphuryea I can see what your saying, the buttons are loops from each song19:41
Azelphurbut yea it's still impressive to me :)19:42
Azelphurand I'm a classical pianist, so it takes a reasonable amount to impress me19:42
oimon1trying to root & load CM7 on my phone...getting scared19:46
Azelphuroimon1: what's up?19:47
* Azelphur does his phones on day 1 :P19:47
oimon1first it failed cos i didn't have enough space19:47
oimon1then it rebooted the phone a few times..was getting scared.19:47
oimon1now doing a nandroid backup19:48
Azelphuryou got recovery working?19:48
oimon1performing backup now19:48
Azelphuryou got nothing to worry about if you have recovery19:48
Azelphuryou can't really brick if you have recovery19:48
Azelphurwhat phone you flashing?19:49
oimon1htc desire. which method is best for flashing with CM7? http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_%28CDMA%29:_Full_Update_Guide#Flashing_CyanogenMod has 2 methods19:50
Azelphuroimon method 1 is a GUI for method 2 :)19:50
oimon1oh LOL19:51
AzelphurROM Manager is a GUI for Clockwork recovery19:51
Azelphuroimon you using clockwork right?19:52
Azelphuryou trying to flash a nightly or release?19:52
Azelphurwhen you was doing a nandroid backup, you rebooted into recovery right?19:53
oimon1using clockwork yes19:53
Azelphurcool, I like clockwork recovery :)19:53
oimon1via unrevoked19:53
Azelphuroimon nightly or release?19:55
oimon1stable 7.0.319:56
Azelphuroimon1:  use rom manager then, nice and easy press button receive cyanogenmod19:57
oimon1Azelphur: should i factory reset or format anything first?19:58
bigcalmI'm surprised at how long 7.1rc1 has been out without an rc219:58
Azelphuroimon1: for first flash, it's generally a good idea to wipe before and after the flash19:58
* Azelphur lives on the edge, rom manager with the nightlies :P19:59
oimon1scary man19:59
bigcalmAzelphur: which device?19:59
AzelphurHTC Desire Z19:59
Azelphuroimon1: the other day for april fools cyanogen made my phone have lots of ducks :(19:59
oimon1Azelphur: but ROM manager does the wiping for me?20:00
Azelphuroimon1: yep, just tick the wipe button20:00
Azelphurand you obviously want google apps too20:00
Azelphuroh wait, I'm not on cyanogen nightlies any more, I'm on miui20:01
AzelphurI wonder if rom manager does miui yet20:01
oimon1if it was a laptop i'd be 100% confident of this20:01
oimon1but phones...20:01
Azelphuroimon1: what you worried about?20:01
oimon1bricking and/or losing cool setup20:01
oimon1and not being able to get the phone back how i liked it20:02
Azelphuroimon1: you can always download the firmware from htc and flash via recovery20:02
Azelphurif you completely brick the OS20:02
Azelphurso there's not much worry there20:02
Azelphurwith android recovery you just get "update.zip" files20:03
BigRedSyou can brick to the point where you can't get into recovery, though20:03
BigRedSI'm told it's hard, but I did manage it :(20:03
AzelphurBigRedS: indeed, but that's very difficult to do20:03
Azelphurhow on earth did you do it?20:03
oimon1panicking and unplugging half way>20:03
BigRedSNo idea, flashed a rom, took hours so I left it be overnight20:03
BigRedSGot back to it and it was off, wont boot beyond showing the battery logo20:03
BigRedSIt was a galaxy S, apparently they do sometimes have flaky USB power somethingorother, so that may be to blame20:04
oimon1did you ever get the phone unbricked?20:04
BigRedSnah, I've got to take it to a T-mobile shop and claim ignorance...20:04
Azelphurhaha, that solves everything \o/20:04
Azelphurdid you hear samsung shipped a S2 to the CM devs?20:05
BigRedSWe tried making one of the special leads to get it into download mode, but that didn't have any effect, pondered getting a jtag but I'm gonna try for warranty first :)20:05
Azelphurthat phones gonna be shiny :D20:05
BigRedSyeah, a couple of mates have got them20:05
AzelphurBigRedS: have you tried fastboot?20:05
BigRedSI think if I had an S2 I'd probably not feel an immediate need to re-'rom' it20:05
BigRedSAzelphur: not knowingly; what is it?20:05
AzelphurBigRedS: it's a low level thing that you can send the phone a recovery image from20:06
BigRedSI've a DHD from work now, which is why I'v enot gout round to sorting the Galaxy out20:06
Azelphurit's the thing before recovery20:06
BigRedSAzelphur: yeah, I think that's 'download mode'. Needed to create a USB cable with the right resistance between two of the pins20:06
Azelphurnope, none of that o.O20:06
BigRedSnext down, AIUI, is JTAG which is very wrranty voiding20:06
Azelphuryou just plug into USB with normal cable and boot the phone holding volume or something20:07
Azelphurand it goes into a manufacturer menu and waits for an image from USB20:07
BigRedSOh, those20:07
BigRedSyeah, that is download mode20:07
AzelphurI also think you can do it by putting a file with a special name on the SD card20:07
Azelphurand it'll just flash it straight20:07
BigRedSthe buttons didn't work, so we made the cable which is a secondary thing20:07
AzelphurI see20:07
BigRedSAzelphur: the htc gold cards? Not found a samsung equivalent20:07
BigRedSi'll have a bit of a look into it, though20:07
Azelphuroh well, warranty saves the day hopefully :)20:08
Azelphuroimon1: progress? :P20:08
oimon1rom download complete20:08
BigRedSyeah. And works' desire HD sort-of softened the blow :)20:08
Azelphuroimon1: :D20:08
oimon1giving me a few options20:08
oimon1backup existing rom, wipe data and cache and wioe dalvik cache20:09
AzelphurI suppose you want all 3 :)20:09
oimon1i think i already backuped the existing rom (via nandroid backup?)20:09
Azelphuryep, nandroid backups are just dd images fyi :)20:09
Azelphurso yea, you can just wipe and boot.20:10
oimon1decided to do a titanium backup first20:14
oimon1should do this while watching the apprentice20:15
oimon1/should/should not/20:15
Azelphuroimon1: titanium only backs up apps20:15
Azelphurnandroid is the one you want, titanium is largely useless20:15
oimon1done nandroid too20:15
oimon1but thanks for the concern20:15
Azelphuryw :)20:16
oimon1Azelphur: tried rom manager to update the rom but got the ! in a triangle :(20:28
Azelphuroimon1: try going to recovery and doing a full wipe20:30
Azelphurand then boot again20:30
Azelphurif that fails, download cyanogenmod from the website and manually flash it in recovery20:30
oimon1trying a manual flash20:32
oimon1this is stressy20:33
oimon1taking a long time to boot :S20:35
oimon1BigRedS: what's the battery logo?20:37
oimon1just showing circle logo at the mo20:37
Azelphuroimon1: I just rom manager flashed MIUI on my DZ :)20:46
oimon1something is happening..20:47
oimon1had to pull the battery and go back into recovery20:47
BigRedSoimon1: the logo it shows when it's charging20:47
BigRedSwhen it's off20:47
oimon1i don't have one of those logos20:47
oimon1looks like the update is occuring :S20:48
oimon1ooh it worked20:51
oimon1that was scary20:51
Azelphuroimon1: woo\ o/20:52
Azelphuroimon1: you might wanna try MIUI btw, it's cyanogenmod but with added shiny20:53
BigRedSyeah, the first go is a bit scary20:53
BigRedSAnd the first one on each device always takes longer than you're sure the first go on the last device took20:53
daftykinsi still haven't tried a modded ROM20:55
daftykinsi don't see any reason to20:55
popeyevening all20:55
daftykinsmy Desire gets gingerbread soon :O20:55
jacobwthere's one very good reason to..20:55
jacobwits fun :D20:55
daftykinsnot really enough ;)20:56
popeybrobostigon: slight problem, I just powered up what I thought was a dead EEE 900.. and it's alive!20:56
daftykinscould be temporary20:56
brobostigonpopey: thats well, :)20:58
popeywell, its bad for you :D20:59
popeyno spare kb now20:59
popeyas I would like to give these to my kids20:59
brobostigonyes, but it is good it boots :)20:59
popeywell yes :D20:59
popeyif I can put an OS on them that they can use20:59
popeythinking about chrome os20:59
brobostigonok, no worries.20:59
popeybut can't find a recent build20:59
brobostigonno idea on thast one, oh well.21:00
popeyso grabbing the source to try and build myself21:00
brobostigonthank you for your thought popey.21:00
oimon1Azelphur: up and runnign with CM7..thanks for the support:)21:03
oimon1my wife doesn't want it, says it looks like a man phone...she's right21:03
daftykinsgenius inventions21:06
Azelphuroimon1 yw21:07
jacobwdaftykins: :o wow21:12
jacobwthe ironing board is great :D21:13
daftykinsthe hairbrush strikes a chord with me, as i have long hair21:13
jacobwah, that's what it waws.21:15
jacobwwas* .. i thought it was a toothbrush :|21:16
daftykinsthe manky stuff that collects at the bottom is nasty >_<21:16
* jacobw → night21:20
JGJonesDoes the Apple firewire iSight work in Ubuntu?21:28
daftykinsAzelphur: you'd love the above21:39
daftykinsmore so if you game ^_^21:39
Azelphurdaftykins: I would except console gaming got boring about 10 years ago :P21:41
Azelphurand CDs got boring at about the same time21:41
daftykinsrubbish good sir!21:41
daftykinswell, funny part is i install mine to the HDD in the xbox360, but you still need the disc in naturally ¬_¬21:41
daftykinswith LA Noire recently, a 3 DVD game, this was not fun21:41
directhexought to get around to la noire21:42
directhexstill haven't finished alan wake & red dead zombiefest, tbh21:42
shaunoconsoles went downhill when I discovered my lightgun doesn't work with flatscreens :(21:42
directhexshauno, a sad realisation for all Zapper owners21:42
daftykinsyeah i haven't gone back and 100%'d Alan Wake, but to be honest it wasn't that good to be worth of it :(21:42
* funkyHat falls over21:42
awilkinsThe Wiimote does fix the zapper deficit21:43
directhexdaftykins, i need to do the DLC.21:43
daftykinsah, i think i forgot to buy a second21:43
daftykinsi never thought i'd say it, but i'm glad not to have the hassle of PC gaming anymore too21:44
daftykinsnot that it's ever too hard to get something working, but you don't even have to do that! :D21:45

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