[05:05] morning everyone! [05:06] howdy [05:06] hey shauno , how are you today [05:07] awake :( [05:07] \o [05:07] (me raising hand in agreement that we is awake) [05:07] I haven't slept o.O [05:08] got home @ midnight, read e-mail... and went "ah fudgesticks" and started doing work [05:08] hey HazRPG [05:08] i'm up too :) [05:08] I pretty much have to atm. 12hr shifts for the next 3 weeks :) [05:08] getting my geek on in the morning , [05:08] \o/ [05:08] doing some intstalls , moving some systems around the house , stuff like that [05:09] double: \o/ [05:09] nothing like kick starting the day, with a bit of geeking/nerding :) [05:09] or in my case... not actually sleeping o.O [05:11] yep , prepped my Amahi server to go live , setup secondary subnet in the house for testing , got boxee box installed for reviewing on the website, and currently installing a *cough* windows7 machine for a friend [05:11] while downloading the new linux mint to put on my personal machine [05:11] win [05:11] not sure if ubuntu 10.10 is going to be my cup of tea yet [05:12] 11.04 you mean ? [05:12] or 11.10? [05:12] er... Freudian slip xD - I meant 11.10 [05:12] ^5 HazRPG [05:12] I may end up having to build/find updates for 10.10 indefinitely [05:12] i'm not even going for 11.04 i think [05:12] MartijnVdS: +1! [05:12] HazRPG: there's Debian.. :) But I've found that it's possible to get used to Unity [05:13] hmm , i thought about giving it a try , but i love consistency [05:13] nothing a lil lobotomy can't fix ;) [05:13] shauno: hmm alcohol :P [05:13] i'm downloading the rolling release of mint right now [05:13] knightwise: I tried it in beta... didn't like it... tried it before release... still didn't like it... installed it on laptop before I went to egypt when it got released... it failed horribly over there... (gladly I always have a USB drive with an installer on it to revert to what I'd consider "stable" version) [05:14] ow .. I appear to have left my powersupply at home :( [05:14] shauno: -1 :( [05:14] shauno: short work day! [05:14] HazRPG: would you suggest going for another distro / version of mint ? [05:15] naw, it's just going to severely cramp my ability to shoot germans while trying to pass time :( [05:15] shauno: "Laptop's empty. Pub time!" [05:15] knightwise: personally I dislike mint because it looks too much like windows :/ [05:15] HazRPG: you're supposed to be able to install Gnome 3 on oneiric [05:15] knightwise: my reasoning is, if I wanted something to look like windows, I'd use windows :P [05:15] lol , thats true [05:15] i like mint because it DOESNT look like unity [05:15] MartijnVdS: I read about that, but I don't know if I like Gnome3 either xD [05:16] knightwise: what's mint currently rolling with at the moment? Gnome2 or Gnome3? [05:16] MartijnVdS: Although, I must admit Gnome 3 > Unity so far [05:17] MartijnVdS: I'm just not sure if I'm ready for such radical changes to my desktop yet :( [05:17] I used Gnome 2 like I use unity now.. [05:17] the launchers are just on the left instead of in the panel [05:17] gnome2 [05:17] also, I still don't know the names of things (lenses? wut?) [05:17] see, I'm not a fan of launchers [05:18] same here [05:18] HazRPG: how do you start programs then? [05:18] call me oldschool but .. i'm currently running 11.04 with gnome 2 on my Imac [05:18] MartijnVdS: ALT+F2 xD [05:18] MartijnVdS: or using the main menu [05:18] HazRPG: too much typing for a terminal ;) [05:19] HazRPG: I like my "OPEN A NEW TERMINAL NAO" button :) [05:19] I have that too :P [05:19] mod4+T [05:19] just because CTRL+ALT+T was too awkward for my hands [05:20] I'm really tempted to actually give Gnome 3 another try, see if I can get use to it [05:20] but I like my panels too much :( [05:21] feels wrong and dirty to not be able to see instantly at the bottom what I have running [05:21] I must say , i use a lot of Xforwarding to run apps that i have isntalled on other machines , so it doesnt REALLY matter to me what shell i use , i've kinda "distributed" my computing allthrough the house (and beyond) these days [05:21] (with full titles) [05:21] knightwise: heh :P [05:22] crap, just noticed the sticky on my desktop! [05:22] *runs to take out gardening waste* [05:24] \o [05:24] MartijnVdS: what's your "run terminal nao" button? [05:24] did a jailbreak on my ipad yesterday :) [05:25] knightwise: score [05:25] jailbreakme.com [05:25] all you need to do is surf to the site with your safari browser on your ipad / ipod [05:25] et voila [05:26] just ssh'd into my ipod :) [05:48] hmm [05:48] i accidently installed the "lubuntu desktop" on one of my remote machines , [05:49] and i seem to be unable to get it off .. :( [05:49] that's quite a slip [06:38] knightwise: what does an apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop do? [06:42] i tried that but i still get the gui login screen , v [06:42] very strange [06:43] so, on the plus side, tmux uses a lot less memory than screen. on the downside, it keeps sticking it's head up it's rear until I kill it. rather annoying :( [06:44] knightwise: yu'll probably need to do an apt-get autoremove, too [06:44] 'cause the *-desktop packages just depend upon what's needed for the desktop [06:44] I think [06:45] * BigRedS generally ignores gui things [06:45] BigRedS: i am starting to agree with you [06:45] * knightwise loves his cli irssi [06:46] morning [06:46] good morning [06:55] HazRPG: it's a big button on the unity bar on the left [06:56] MartijnVdS: ah [06:56] aloha [07:01] czajkowski, hi, how are you today? [07:08] tired woken up by stupid builders at 7:30a [07:08] m [07:12] any cute ones? [07:12] no idea i cant see them to throw things at them [07:12] aww, thats so unfair [07:14] bloomin windows server reboots [07:23] Morning [07:23] morning daubers [07:29] MooDoo: http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_15 [07:29] :D [07:30] all bow to popey the great. [07:31] popey, yeah i saw it :) You dislike forums :) maybe we should do this for ubuntu uk.....:) would be a laugh :D lol [07:32] MooDoo: like we haven't had that discussion a few times before [07:32] i'll pay you a daubers and raise you a popey :) [07:32] popey, oh i know, just made me smile :) [07:32] We could do strip-poker with these cards [07:32] steady [07:32] we did do profile roulette a while ago [07:33] printable ones, good for recognising people at events and such :) [07:33] http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_13 unlucky for some [07:34] http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_11 nice Union Jack there czajkowski [07:34] MooDoo: Wah? [07:35] daubers, nothing just being silly.....poker/top trumps with the ubuntu community week collector cards :) [07:35] Oh! Ok [07:35] MooDoo: I won't be on one! I've not done anything noteable [07:36] daubers, neither of i, but you're known in here, i'm sure that's enough :) [07:36] Although, I have been tempted to buy some blank playing cards, print those out and then actually use them for top trumps at Oggcamp [07:39] daubers, i'm not going to oggcamp :( [07:39] MooDoo: Rubbish :( [07:40] daubers, darn wife got pregnant ;) and she'll be 8 months by then, i suppose i better look after her ;) [07:41] MooDoo: Yeah... might be the best idea [07:42] daubers, ooo that reminds me ubuntu baby grow :) [07:44] I can just picture you in one [07:44] AlanBell, you have a warped mind mr ;) [07:45] true [07:46] directhex: the fact that you remembered my pain and have decided to ease my suffering makes me love you more [07:46] ikonia, creep ;) [07:49] The Ubuntu logo might be the perfect shape for a teething ring [07:50] LOLZ [07:50] and here i was thinking that I was a nerd [07:51] knightwise, you are :p [07:53] MooDoo: ah ..yes .. [07:53] indeed i am ! :) [07:55] * daubers blocks "progressiverecruitment" from the work mailserver [07:55] 2 spammy emails a day is too much [07:55] hahah :) smtp nazi ! :) [07:56] Also need to print a "Please don't park in these spaces" sign for the idiot in the jag whose parked in our spaces and will probably get walloped by the first delivery lorry of the day [07:57] daubers, wouldn't worry about that, he'll learn when they have a dent in the car.....happened where i live [07:58] daubers, someone parked on the wrong side of the road and when asked to move it refused stating they were allowed to park there......fire engine on a call thought differently [07:58] MooDoo: Just important to put the "We accept no liability that may occur from you parking in these space when you shouldn't be" [08:04] or ' Unfortunately your car got smashed by a teenage dalek with anger management issues. We apologise for the inconvenience" [08:05] knightwise: Or I just go to halfords, buy a clamp and clamp the bugger. [08:05] There is a sign up saying "Illegally parked vehicles may be clamped" [08:05] Charge him £100 for a release fee, then burn the cash in front of him [08:05] LOL :) [08:05] put one of those windscreen stickers on it that say "don't park here" and rip into little bits when you try to take it off [08:06] that last bit is the bomb [08:14] MooDoo, apparently they already did that at Silverstone for the F1 [08:14] On all the cars or something [08:14] my dad who went told me that the stickers that they slap on for the car park was hell to peel off - heat from the sun seem to have welded it to the windscreen [08:17] a bit like the stickers they used to stick on CDs in hmv [08:17] as a teenager i had a bit of OCD about stickers + glue marks on my lovely CD cases, [08:36] * daubers gives the vpn server a gentle kicking [08:36] Good morning awake peoples :) [08:44] o/ [08:44] bigcalm, hi [08:45] hihi [09:00] * bigcalm ponders which domain to ad a + redirect to [09:00] s/ad/add/ [09:03] Morning all [09:03] * davmor2 gives czajkowski a prod to make sure shes with us [09:12] morning davmor2 [09:13] meh [09:14] MooDoo: Morning dude [09:14] czajkowski, wassup....you're being grumpier than normal [09:14] czajkowski: :( that's not a happy face meh it not even a half baked attempt at a decent meh [09:14] builders waking me after I'd only gotten back to sleep at 5am [09:15] I swear I slept more as a baby than I do now [09:15] 5am....wow hard life aint it :p [09:15] czajkowski: Ah yeap that would do it [09:15] somewhere along the line I forgot how to sleep through the night [09:16] czajkowski, think of it as practive for when/if you have kids :p [09:17] czajkowski: that's easy, when I'm in London next I'll bring the mallet and show you :P [09:20] davmor2, when i'm in london next i'll bring whisky,it's the same effect :) [09:21] davmor2: when are you here next [09:21] MooDoo: czajkowski doesn't do whisky [09:21] czajkowski: 15-19th of august [09:21] davmor2, s/whisky/something else [09:21] davmor2: so after oggcamp [09:21] cool, [09:22] davmor2: I do love my JD!!!!! [09:22] davmor2, czajkowski JD evening i think then :) [09:23] czajkowski: JD is a bourbon it isn't left in cask long enough to be whisky [09:25] Whiskey \o/ [09:25] JD /o\ [09:25] You guys are going shopping for shoes? [09:25] CAKE MAN! [09:25] daubers: remember you owe me cake at oggcamp [09:25] Cake \o/ [09:25] czajkowski: Yup, I owe a couple of peopl ecake [09:26] people cake even [09:26] Probably just make a big cak [09:26] e [09:26] daubers: yes indeeed, [09:26] but I'm special [09:26] I have to deal with MooDoo and davmor2 on a daily basis! [09:27] czajkowski: So what you really need is a supply of custard pies and a catapult? [09:27] czajkowski: Hey no fair we both have to put with you I know which is worse :P [09:29] daubers: ohhh yes pie in the face to raise funds for the team [09:29] I nominate davmor2 to sit in the chair for the day [09:30] a quid a pie [09:30] make a fortune [09:30] *grin* [09:30] hmmmmm pie [09:30] czajkowski: You'd be bankrupt in an hour [09:31] but would be so worth t [09:32] and others would chip in too [09:32] we could alternate between a davmor2 and a Daviey for pie in the face [09:32] czajkowski: What did Daviey do? [09:33] it's Daviey always blame Dave2 [09:33] Daviey: [09:36] howdy [09:36] czajkowski, you'd miss us if we wasn't here [09:36] I jumped on the band-wagon: http://cuth.eu/+ [09:37] woop [09:42] ¬.¬ [09:45] Damn you intermittant internet connection in just one server === webpigeon_laptop is now known as Guest92250 === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm [09:49] also me, http://gordallott.com/+ - its amazing how no matter how many times i have to edit apache config files, i always come away learning nothing [09:51] Heh [09:52] gord: I added an extra redirect rule to my urlshortener site to redirect to an existing redirect slug [09:52] so: /+ -> /gplus -> happy fun time [09:53] Though I do have the ability to put + at the end of slugs to stop the redirection and see what the original URL is, it won't work for /++ ;) [10:00] Gary: ping === czajkows1i is now known as czajkowski [10:19] for all the fuss some people make about the contributor agreement canonical has, i'v never once sent out a "hey can you sign up to the contributor agreement?" email to a contributor that ever caused a fuss, people seem fairly willing [10:20] czajkowski: hey ya, wassup? [10:23] hahahah :) i love Xforwarding :) [10:24] Gary: tis ok now [10:24] phew [10:26] Gary: czajkowski was lining you up for a slap I'll tell you ;) [10:26] nah, she knows I like them [10:26] * Gary tickles cz [10:30] can i have a slap please? [10:30] * andylockran slaps MooDoo [10:32] i needed that :) [10:36] * Gary tickles MooDoo inappropriately [10:37] * MooDoo giggles [10:37] oh behave === kirrus is now known as WillyWonka [10:42] * davmor2 slaps MooDoo with a cricket bat, anything to help a friend :D [10:42] shauno: where did you get your OWC data doubler? [10:42] shauno: i.e. did you get it shipped from the US? [10:47] I did [10:48] owc & macsales are the same company. not seen much of their stuff elsewhere :/ [10:48] funny enough tho, I ordered it the same day as my ram from the UK. the datadoubler got here first [10:59] shauno: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=macbook+pro+caddy&_sacat=0&_odkw=macbook+pro+dvd+caddy&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313 [11:02] didn't think to try ebay .. I took the lazy option & got it bundled with the ssd & external dvd caddy === Pendulum_ is now known as Pendulum [11:10] hi all === carl__ is now known as carl0s- [11:42] urgh, it's a telephone day today. [11:46] telephone day? === JNick is now known as jnick_tait [11:47] shauno: Constantly on the phone either giving support, or explaining system designs/capabilities [11:47] i.e. no actual engineering today [11:47] oh. welcome to my life :p [11:48] shauno: This always happens when the bosses and the sales guy are out at the same time === Nick is now known as Guest20491 [11:51] c [11:52] d [11:53] z [11:53] m [11:54] y m c a? [11:54] ddojsioc? [11:55] idkfa [11:55] wtf? [11:55] \o/ ^o^ o< /o\ [11:55] * BigRedS bought that on steam the other day [11:55] * brobostigon fully expects someone to spell out leters in binary in a minute. [11:55] iddqd [11:55] I woulda, but they didn't have mac bulids :( [11:57] shauno: I assumed the licenses were transferable [11:57] are they not? [11:57] so if i've bought Doom I can play in on a windows box or a mac [11:58] * BigRedS ponders trying to get #hacking on twiter to be full of tweets about hacking [12:06] my android hpone space keeps filling up :( need to apply a custom rom soon [12:06] realised that none of my email or notifications had arrived on my phone all day due to space issues [12:07] oimon, cyanogen [12:07] yeah, how u getting on with it? [12:08] not looking forward to reinstalling all my apps again though :( [12:09] MooDoo: is there part of the process that saves the apps for you? [12:11] oimon, can't remember - try looking at this - http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20119-cyanogenmod-7-for-the-htc-desire-cdma-v703-5-may-2011/ [12:11] cool cheers [12:14] ahaa [12:14] ommwriter is out for the ipad [12:28] * daubers misread that as oomwriter and wondered why anyone would want an out of memory writer? [12:30] ah yes [12:30] that would make a great procrastination tool [12:32] * daubers really needs a new videocamera :( [12:38] watching that video clip of dave grohl chuck someone out of his concert lol === WillyWonka is now known as kirrus === kirrus is now known as Kirrus [13:02] *sigh* i'm so fed up [13:06] MooDoo: that's tends to be the case after Lunch if you were still empty it's time to worry :D [13:06] * popey tickles MooDoo [13:07] davmor2, smart arse. [13:07] popey, er not you as well [13:07] #dd4814 is the new black :) lol [13:07] i was || that close to registering dd4814.com :D [13:08] and the other one [13:08] lol [13:08] but now I have said that, MooDoo will do it. [13:08] haha [13:08] popey: that's devious [13:08] popey, nope it's your idea :) [13:08] MooDoo: why you fed up chap? [13:08] doesn't look much different from dd4813 though [13:09] davmor2, just having a lack of motivation day :) [13:09] * davmor2 preps the cattle prod [13:09] MooDoo: I can help with that [13:10] lol [13:12] popey, yup looks like both domains are free ;) [13:14] popey: what would you do with it just a page of orange and a page of purple (umh aubergine) [13:14] happy days [13:15] i would do that, just for the hell of it :D [13:15] howdy howdy howdy [13:17] MooDoo: see popey goes out of his way to find you something to do and your not interested are you ;) [13:17] davmor2, i've just created a page of dd4824 and i'm not that nasty to have it as a web page......yuk lol [13:19] MooDoo: well the other fun one would be a block of green with one pixel the right colour and play find the dd4814 and have linked to ubuntu.com :D [13:20] davmor2, if the domains are still available when i get paid, i'll register them :D [13:20] how much do domains cost noawadays? [13:20] £3? [13:20] nah [13:20] * oimon has never bought a personal domain [13:21] oimon something like that [13:21] lmao, nice pidgin...it's glitched out and is saying there's like 4 of each individual person in this channel [13:21] oimon .co.uk 5.58 which is for 2 years .com 8.49 for 1 year [13:22] that ex vat [13:26] meh [13:26] ? [13:26] rather spend it on a curry lol [13:27] heh [13:27] my employer gives me unlimited web space if i want it [13:27] oimon, mine too ;) [13:29] mine didn't [13:29] trying chromiumos again with my eee pc [13:29] :@) [13:29] although i'm am self hosting at the mo in my garage :D [13:29] oimon: let me know how you get on [13:30] bigcalm: i don't have high hopes..failed a few months ago, can't remember why [13:30] hey biggie! [13:30] Ah well [13:30] Hi Hoovie :) [13:35] gwibber is quite plainly refusing to show me some tweets [13:35] * Laney stabs it [13:36] interested to see gwibber has been rewritten to work properly [13:37] does gwibber do g+? [13:37] not yet [13:37] nothing does yet [13:37] due to lack of api [13:37] tried to build the new version [13:37] nothing doing [13:38] boo [13:38] the only thing that could entice me back to gwibber was a rewrite from scratch :D [13:38] Laney: you in oneiric? if not then I thing a bunch of stuff won't build as it depend on gtk+ 3.0 iirc [13:38] davmor2: no [13:38] it ends up with some libdee api error [13:39] Laney: it's available in LP libdee it's new to oneiric [13:40] i have it [13:40] hmmmm wonder if the next ubuntu-uk meeting should be a google+ hangout one :) that would be fun :) [13:41] i see, looks like it depends on some unmerged feature [13:41] :q [13:41] MooDoo: Unless you don't have a G+ account...... [13:42] well there is that :) [13:42] daubers: I think there are enough people that do that we can invite the people who aren't [13:43] aha [13:43] we have a build! [13:44] davmor2: We should really do a big meeting where we organise a dozen pub type locations around the UK and have a big hangout that way. 2 or 3 (or more) people to a G+ hangout thing [13:45] oh, no more multiple columns [13:46] Laney: would be nice to see a screenshot if poss [13:46] oimon: there is a video [13:46] i still think, we have had success with mumble, and that works. [13:46] you don't want to see a screenshot of my desktop [13:47] Laney: you can do just the open window :D [13:47] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 Pastafarianism ftw \o/ [13:48] * oimon always likes to see desktop screenies [13:48] erm ok [13:50] http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/gwibber.png [13:51] wow looks ugly :-\ [13:51] it looks better on the screenshots [13:51] probably my gtk theme [13:53] oimon: http://ubuntuone.com/p/1487/ [13:55] davmor2: doesn't work i'm afraid. however found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqoaB5uvm-k [13:57] oimon: that similar [13:58] oimon: I can't wait for it to arrive in oneiric [13:59] wah that I can't see my different twitter lists individually [14:01] chromium vanilla works on my office laptop but not the eee pc :( === luke__ is now known as Featurefreak [14:02] just had an interesting convo with the irc protocol dev for pidgin :) [14:03] apparently he's open to patches on implementing all the missing irc support pidgin has [14:04] pidgin being a full featured irc client = cool, no? :P [14:04] Azelphur: I see you mistake there you put a ? instead of a ! it's an easy mistake ;) [14:05] lol [14:05] Azelphur: which features? [14:05] all the unsupported irc commands that do nothing [14:06] he seems ok with a "Message from server" mechanic being added to the core, and any unhandled IRC command reply being sent to that [14:06] which would mean full support for all IRC clients \o/ [14:06] * oimon uses pidgin for irc [14:07] + the irc plugins [14:07] same [14:07] but if you try and use any particularly useful commands, stats, motd, rehash, etc etc [14:07] you get no reply whatsoever [14:08] these can all be implemented reasonably easy in theory :) [14:08] unfortunately my C's a bit too weak to do it as I'm more of a snakes guy [14:08] pidgin an empathy both do basic chat fine, and irc chat, but I don't want them to do more than that, for advanced features use a full blown client it's what they are there for and why they are better :D [14:08] I don't see why pidgin can't be a full featured IRC client tbh [14:08] pidgin is "better" for me because of docky integration [14:09] I like the multiprotocol myself :) [14:09] tells me the number of new messages via a number on the pidgin icon on the dock [14:10] but yea, it'd be interesting if all the replies could be handled [14:10] oimon: I get the same thing from xchat in unity :D [14:10] ah, cool [14:23] cheers all! [15:00] popey: If you see this do not approach him he is a dangerous axe murderer and Ubuntu and Mac Fanboy ;) http://randall.executiv.es/ucw_oneiric_15 [15:00] popey: you take a serious photo dude :) [15:00] davmor2: you are not the first person to suggest I look like an axe murderer [15:01] although why I would want to kill innocent axes is beyond me [15:01] BLARG. who understands django? [15:01] * popey points directhex at Daviey [15:01] directhex: I don't [15:02] directhex I know a man in the pub who might [15:04]