[00:02] <snap-l> greg-g: Very cool
[00:02] <snap-l> Was asking re: CC position
[00:02] <snap-l> So that means we're losing a leader then. ;(
[00:02] <snap-l> (sniff sniff)
[00:03] <alpha-01> any reccomendations before i reboot?
[00:04] <greg-g> cross your fingers? (I have no idea what's going on)
[00:04] <alpha-01> ubuntu 8.10
[00:05] <alpha-01> can't upgrade or update for that matter
[00:05] <alpha-01> tyrok helped me try to fix it
[00:06] <alpha-01> replaced intrepid with karmic
[00:06] <alpha-01> and then ran un update
[00:06] <alpha-01> we will see what happens
[00:06] <alpha-01> goodnight everybody!
[00:07] <greg-g> good luck!
[00:07] <alpha-01> an error occured
[00:08] <alpha-01> please run packet manager from the right-click menu or apt-get in a terminal too see what is wrong
[00:09] <alpha-01> the error message was 'error: brokencount > 0' This usually means your installed packages have unmet dependencies
[00:10] <alpha-01> should that worry me?
[00:10] <alpha-01> the exclamation point on the big red down arrow suggests it should.
[00:11] <snap-l> alpha-01: I think your best bet instead of trying to upgrade is to install anew (after backing up your home directory)
[00:11] <alpha-01> how to install new?
[00:12] <alpha-01> that is what i wanted to do in the first place
[00:12] <snap-l> You'd need to either get a CD or a USB key with the OS installed on it
[00:12] <snap-l> WHere are you located?
[00:12] <alpha-01> i did that (usb) but it doesn't work.
[00:12] <alpha-01> oakland county
[00:12] <alpha-01> madison heights atm.
[00:12] <snap-l> If you want, come to CHC tomorrow
[00:13] <alpha-01> chc?
[00:13] <snap-l> we're meeting at the Caribou Coffee on 14 / Campbell road from 8-10pm
[00:13] <snap-l> I'll see if we can get you sorted out
[00:13] <alpha-01> lol
[00:13] <snap-l> bring a 1GB USB key
[00:13] <alpha-01> 8gb, no prob
[00:13] <snap-l> I'll make sure I have a few ISO images on this machine
[00:14] <alpha-01> i'll see what i can do, when is the next meeting if i can't make it?
[00:14] <snap-l> WE meet every WEdnesday.
[00:14] <alpha-01> wow, ok
[00:14] <alpha-01> 14 & campbell, i will see what i can do. thanks again!
[00:15] <snap-l> np
[00:23] <_stink_> greg-g: yay, congrats!
[00:23] <_stink_> but DIAF for moving to CA.
[00:23] <_stink_> :P
[00:23] <snap-l> he
[00:23] <greg-g> :P
[00:23] <snap-l> h
[03:31] <TeamXlink> Does anyone know if AT&T block port 25, I know Comcast does.
[11:24] <rick_h_> http://www.macrumors.com/2011/07/12/one-third-of-iphone-users-mistakenly-think-they-have-4g/
[11:24] <rick_h_> :)
[11:46] <snap-l> Yeah, I heard about that last night
[11:46] <snap-l> Even though it clearly says on the phone "3G"
[11:55] <Wolfger> you expect iPhone users to read?
[11:58] <rick_h_> I thought iphone users were the smart "appreciate great ux" types
[11:58] <rick_h_> not morons :)
[12:03] <brousch> rick_h_: i sent you a PM
[12:11] <Wolfger> rick_h_: well... I live with a couple iPhone lovers, so i'll refrain from comment. :-)
[12:13] <brousch> but that means you're especially qualified to comment
[12:17] <Wolfger> Having used an iPhone for a month, and then switching to Android, I can't for the life of me understand why *anybody* would want an iPhone.
[12:18] <Wolfger> It was about on par (some things better than, some things worse) with my BB Curve
[12:18]  * Wolfger expects tjagoda to pop up any second now that BB hath been invoked
[13:38] <snap-l> greg-g: So, when is your going-away party?
[13:38] <snap-l> Man, losing jcastro to FL for a year, and losing greg-g to CA
[13:38] <jcastro> permanently?
[13:39] <snap-l> He's going to flock with the CC crew
[13:40] <jcastro> ah
[13:44] <Wolfger> that flocker
[14:06] <Wolfger> rofl-copter: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/07/13/1317252/Zuckerberg-Quits-Google-Over-Privacy-Concerns?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29
[14:16] <snap-l> I think it was more that it was embarrassing that he was the most followed person on Google+
[14:39] <greg-g> snap-l: July 31st, 4-8pm, BBQ in our backyard
[14:39] <greg-g> announcement will be mailed/emailed/bloged shortly
[14:40] <rick_h_> booooo!
[14:40] <rick_h_> will be in pyohio july 31st
[14:40] <greg-g> oh right! :(
[14:41] <greg-g> well, my parents' schedules kinda trumped all others given they're A) my parents and B) missed the ceremony :)
[14:41] <snap-l> Yeah, me too
[14:41] <snap-l> bah, I say, bah.
[14:41] <rick_h_> bah bah!
[14:41] <greg-g> well, given enough time in my schedule, we should do something another time ebfore I go, then
[14:41] <snap-l> <# reading jajrgon filled slides about how awesome APIs are
[14:42] <snap-l> Seriously, you'd think it was the second coming of Christ via JSON and REST
[14:42] <rick_h_> woo! lord JSON I bow to thee!
[14:42] <rick_h_> you need me to write up the JSON bible side of things?
[14:43] <snap-l> Nah, i think we have that covered.
[14:44] <snap-l> Just make sure you pencil in Revelations at some point
[14:44] <snap-l> And lo did the beast speak along the sevel layers of the TCPIP stack
[14:44] <snap-l> s/sevel/seven
[14:45] <snap-l> Also, video is hot
[14:46] <rick_h_> ??
[14:46] <snap-l> rick_h_: You'd have to see these slides
[14:47] <snap-l> Basically they're all a-giddy that video and a better customer experience can be delivered via these APIs.
[14:47] <snap-l> and in return, there's gold in them thar APIs.
[14:48] <snap-l> Y'know, the exuberance before the douche.
[14:48] <greg-g> lol
[14:48] <snap-l> "I can pay my bills online" becomes "God, I have to use this piece of shit system to pay my bills online"
[14:54] <rick_h_> huh? video to pay bills?
[14:54] <rick_h_> oh, you mean your apis for transferring video?
[14:56] <Wolfger> video of you signing the check and mailing it
[14:59] <rick_h_> what?! a failwhale?
[14:59] <rick_h_> haven't seen one of those in a while
[15:00] <Wolfger> I saw one the last time I tried to go to twitter, actually
[15:00] <Wolfger> just this past weekend
[15:00] <snap-l> yeah, that sort of thing.
[15:00] <Wolfger> they just wanted to remind us they are made of fail...
[15:08] <snap-l> And now to add a group on the work social network.
[15:08] <snap-l> ya new bosses.
[15:09] <snap-l> It's essentially sharepoint, afaict.
[15:36] <Wolfger> OK, seriously? People are getting upset that federal law is making inefficient lightbulbs go away?
[15:36] <Wolfger> People are *stockpiling* inefficient lightbulbs so that they don't have to go out and buy efficient ones?
[15:37] <Wolfger> I am a hair's width away from losing all faith in humanity.
[15:38] <_stink_> funny, that's almost verbatim a conversation that just took place in another channel
[15:39] <_stink_> including the near loss of faith in humanity
[15:39] <Wolfger> ...and a smidgin of faith is restored.
[15:40] <Wolfger> ...and lost again when I see that Rodney King getting arrested without being beaten by maglights is somehow worthy of the national news.
[15:42] <Wolfger> I mean, these lightbulb people.... do they not realize that the energy efficiency of cars has been federally regulated for a long, long time now?
[15:42] <rick_h_> but you can go buy an old muscle car if you want
[15:42] <Wolfger> and that this is a *GOOD* thing for humanity?
[15:42] <rick_h_> I hate the stupid lights. They take too long to warm up
[15:42] <Wolfger> you can go buy an old incandescent if you want
[15:42] <rick_h_> I've started moving LED, but at $30+ a pop...a slow process
[15:43] <Wolfger> but nobody can manufacture one
[15:43] <rick_h_> heh, so they go the way of oil?
[15:43] <Wolfger> and nobody will manufacture that muscle car either
[15:43] <rick_h_> a limited supply commodity
[15:43] <rick_h_> there are places you can buy a muscle car :)
[15:43] <rick_h_> restoration at its best
[15:43] <Wolfger> man-u-facture
[15:44] <rick_h_> right, but you can't manufacture the old bulbs, you can't exactly 'restore' them
[15:44] <Wolfger> heh :-)
[15:44] <rick_h_> I'm just arguing there are sources for getting one and won't for the other
[15:44] <Wolfger> ok, I missed that point
[15:45] <Wolfger> LED is ftw. I switched all my bulbs that aren't on dimmer switches to CFL years ago
[15:45] <rick_h_> yea, hate the CFL slow times
[15:45] <rick_h_> in the bathroom the mirror lights take a while to warm up and that's not what you want when the wife jumps in for a quick make-up check
[15:46] <rick_h_> so half are CFL and half are not so that you kind of get the best of both worlds
[15:46] <Wolfger> do LED bulbs work on dimmers? I might buy some of those, but they are $$$
[15:47] <rick_h_> not sure, I use one in a light stand with two settings
[15:47] <rick_h_> and they flicker on the low setting
[15:49] <brousch> Wolfger: so start making old style light bulbs in your garage
[15:54] <Wolfger> brousch: I don't want old style bulbs
[15:54] <Wolfger> they are the suck
[15:54] <brousch> but you can sell them to people who do want them
[15:54] <snap-l> It's because pepole are afraid of CFLs
[15:55] <Wolfger> If I find out who still wants them, I am just as likely to stab them as sell them something. That would be bad.
[15:55] <snap-l> because they're flourescent bulbs, and can possibly cause headaches in people
[15:55] <snap-l> Which of course means that nobody will buy things like LED bulbs, or even improved incandescent bulbs.
[15:57] <brousch> no, fluorescent sounds like fluorine, which is bad for you, except your teeth
[15:58] <ptenhoopen> There's also the mercury if they break.
[15:58] <ptenhoopen> Freaks people out.
[15:59] <ptenhoopen> I replaced all of my regular use bulbs with CFL years ago.
[16:00] <ptenhoopen> I'd like to use LEDs but haven't justified the cost yet.
[16:00] <ptenhoopen> Some of my CFLs have burned out recently.  Seems too early after installation as I thought they last longer.
[16:02] <greg-g> ptenhoopen: huh, wow, I've never had one wear out yet, they've all just been broken when the lamp falls over :)
[16:03] <ptenhoopen> It could have been the brand.  I got them at Menards.
[16:04] <ptenhoopen> The brand was something starting with an F I think.
[16:04] <ptenhoopen> I've switched to Sylvania for new ones.
[16:05] <ptenhoopen> It was Feit brand.
[16:06] <brousch> mine fail at the same rate as regular bulbs
[16:09] <snap-l> I had a CFL burn out in the bathroom
[16:09] <snap-l> actually, several
[16:09] <rick_h_> mine do as well, I'm guessing they're testing in some perfect electrical setup
[16:09] <snap-l> Yeah, Feit is Fail
[16:09] <rick_h_> no led ones have failed yet
[16:09] <rick_h_> so curious if they'll hold for a long while
[16:22] <rick_h_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVvRWVoHDb8&feature=player_embedded
[16:22] <rick_h_> that's just crazy
[16:28] <snap-l> Yeah, that's been making the rounds.
[16:28] <snap-l> AWesome stuff
[16:29] <snap-l> makes me want to try that out, without the messy business of jumping out of a plane.
[16:29] <rick_h_> you know there were some bruises in the practice of that lol
[16:30] <Wolfger> speaking of loss of faith in humanity: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1107/leading-off-0711/content.11.html
[16:31] <rick_h_> greg-g: boot is in order
[16:31] <rick_h_> kthx
[16:32] <snap-l> Wolfger: That picture totally needs the Dixie horn from the Dukes of Hazzard.
[16:32] <snap-l> Also, way too many people in that photo need T-shirts
[16:33] <gamerchick02> ugh. that's... whoa.
[16:33] <rick_h_> boot worthy
[16:33] <rick_h_> send him away greg-g
[16:44] <Wolfger> final straw in the faith-in-humanity game... going to men's room and guy standing at the urinal is talking on his cell phone. At the urinal.
[16:44] <Wolfger> with about 4 other people in there
[16:45] <Wolfger> we should initiate a nuclear war with Russia now, before things get any worse.
[16:47] <gamerchick02> why do people do that?
[16:47] <gamerchick02> women do it in the stalls too.
[16:50] <Wolfger> If you want to talk in the bathroom at home, fine... you're only being rude to the person on the line, and if you're careful they might not even know. But talking in a public restroom just shows a completely lack of respect for everybody except yourself.
[16:51] <Wolfger> and a lack of sense, too.... "omg, this phone call is so important, I must have it RIGHT NOW!"
[16:52] <gamerchick02> but is it worth accidentally dropping the phone in the toilet?
[16:52] <Blazeix> I don't really mind people doing that from a rudeness perspective, but I would never do it simply due to sanitary reasons
[16:53] <gamerchick02> it's bloody rude. the bathroom is the ONE place i should be free from bloody phone calls.
[16:53] <gamerchick02> and yes, unsanitary. ick ick ick.
[16:57] <snap-l> This gives me a great idea for a prank
[16:58] <snap-l> "Yeah, yeah doc, it's [unzip] Ahhh, yes, a little uncomfortable. No, no, the swelling's gone down..."
[16:58] <snap-l> "Right, well the red spots are starting to go away"
[16:58] <snap-l> and see if anyone tries to sneak a peak
[16:58] <snap-l> peek, rather
[16:59] <gamerchick02> ooooh. you're evil, snap-l. in a good way.
[17:10] <brousch> make loud fart noises
[17:19] <Wolfger> I always try to fart and flush when people are on phones in the restroom
[17:20] <Wolfger> I'm one tiny bit of restraint from just flat out yelling "Why would anybody talk on the phone while they're taking a dump?"
[17:20] <waldo323_> wow started reading at the wrong place.
[17:20] <ColonelPanic001> greg-g: I saw on twitter you're pregnant. Congrats.
[17:20] <Wolfger> Welcome, waldo323_
[17:21] <ColonelPanic001> and yeah, can't stand phones in bathrooms. Ugh
[17:21] <waldo323_> oh, Wolfger i could have sworn i saw you on my way to work the other day
[17:22] <Wolfger> could be... My Jeep is rather distinctive
[17:22] <Wolfger> I've been working in Auburn Hills all week.
[17:23] <waldo323_> ah, hmm no i was a big truck, around davison and i75
[17:23] <waldo323_> erm *it
[17:24] <Wolfger> Nope. Not I.
[17:36] <snap-l> http://deliciousagony.com/
[17:36] <snap-l> Specifically http://208.53.158.48:9564/listen.pls demands your attention.
[17:38] <Wolfger> Huzzah, Ubuntu Bug Squad!
[17:38] <Wolfger> I confirmed a bug in February of 2009. Today (the very next time anybody touched it) it was marked as "won't fix".
[17:39] <snap-l> Wolfger: Awesome. What was the bug?
[17:39] <gamerchick02> wolfer, i hate it when that happens
[17:39] <gamerchick02> gotta restart. bbiab, new kernel.
[17:39] <Wolfger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/41211
[17:41] <Wolfger> Now that I look at it again, I think it's not even a valid reason for marking won't fix.
[17:41] <Wolfger> although I am quite certain they won't fix it...
[17:42] <snap-l> OK, at least it did get some attention, though
[17:42] <snap-l> but is it still a problem?
[17:43] <Wolfger> The person who filed the bug has probably bought a new laptop since then
[17:44] <snap-l> problem solved. ;)
[17:48] <gamerchick02> what was the bug? sorry, had to restart.
[17:49] <Wolfger> gamerchick02: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/41211
[17:49] <gamerchick02> thanks
[17:49] <Wolfger> Bug Squad kinda feels like Amway to me.
[17:50] <gamerchick02> it's frustrating that you report a bug like you're supposed to and then nothing.
[17:50] <gamerchick02> and they wonder why people don't file bugs in the first place.
[17:50] <Wolfger> People in it talk it up like it's a great thing to do, but it doesn't seem to get anywhere when you're in, and then they just bring in fresh blood to replace the disillusioned.
[17:51] <gamerchick02> 2006?
[17:51] <gamerchick02> why is something open from 2006?
[17:51] <gamerchick02> that's 5 years ago. that's like an eon in computer terms
[17:57] <Wolfger> 5 years ago, Twitter was born
[17:59] <Wolfger> I was really hoping Google would give better results on "five years ago"
[18:00] <gamerchick02> heh
[18:02] <snap-l> Wolfger: Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq3EZhT3G7U
[18:05] <snap-l> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=louXPUW7tHU <- Also...
[18:07] <Wolfger> Yeah.... Firewall.
[18:07] <Wolfger> I'll watch when I get home.
[18:07] <snap-l> David Bowie: Five Years
[18:07] <snap-l> one studio, one live.
[18:08] <Wolfger> Cool. Not familiar with that song. At least not by name
[18:08] <Wolfger> still have Fashion stuck in my head after sitting through last week's So You Think You Can Dance with my wife...
[18:09] <snap-l> You'll have this stuck in your head.
[18:09]  * snap-l fires up Bowie: Stage
[18:55] <greg-g> ColonelPanic001: thanks!
[18:55] <ColonelPanic001> \o/
[19:01] <Wolfger> snap-l: You ever get a Spotlight award that looks like a big chrome d6?
[19:01] <Wolfger> I want a second one, so I can play craps...
[19:01]  * Wolfger is bored at work again
[19:08] <brousch> start drawing up plans for your ren faire themed brewery/retro lightbulb factory
[19:13] <Wolfger> http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/135/as-a-software-engineer-who-should-i-be-following-on-twitter
[19:14] <Blazeix> as a software engineer, you should recognize that google+ is the future, noob.
[19:21] <Wolfger> Heh.
[19:21] <Wolfger> it was closed, or I would have told them to follow rick_h_
[19:37] <snap-l> Wolfger: Yeah, I did
[19:42] <bmcmahon> http://www.thejournal.ie/woman-died-from-allergic-reaction-to-sex-with-dog-172620-Jul2011/
[19:42] <greg-g> dude, come on
[19:42] <greg-g> I'm not even opening that link
[19:42] <bmcmahon> everyday I loose a little faith in humanity
[19:42] <greg-g> first Wolfger now you? :)
[19:42] <snap-l> I'm there as well (losing faith in humanity)
[19:42] <bmcmahon> wait he posted it?
[19:44] <greg-g> bmcmahon: no, he posted another link that was a bit "off color"
[19:46] <bmcmahon> the urinal one or the twitter one?
[19:48] <snap-l> Gah, I need to figure out ow to make a million dollars busking or something
[19:49] <bmcmahon> greg-g: no imagine that as the next mortal kombat finishing move
[19:49] <bmcmahon> that will really piss the parents off
[19:55] <snap-l> http://www.metalinjection.net/tv/view/7261/suicide-silece-you-only-live-once-official-video
[19:57] <brousch> buggery, now there's a word
[20:02] <snap-l> I think every generation feels they're the last generation on this Earth not because they want the legacy of being the final generation; it's because they look at the stupid perking up in the next generation and hope "Dear God, make it stop"
[20:12] <gamerchick02> heh, snap-l
[20:30] <ColonelPanic001> probably
[20:34] <gamerchick02> buggery is a great word, brousch.
[20:35] <ColonelPanic001> .-.
[20:35] <ColonelPanic001> >_>
[20:35] <gamerchick02> what's up, ColonelPanic001?
[20:36] <snap-l> You know, it really irritates me when people offer something via bittorrent, and don't have anyone sending anything
[20:36] <gamerchick02> ugh
[20:36] <gamerchick02> jerks
[20:36] <snap-l> esp. since it's the King Crimson site
[20:36] <gamerchick02> "people, what a bunch of bastards"
[20:36] <snap-l> They have their live shows available, and one of the options for download is torrent
[20:37] <gamerchick02> that's good.
[20:37] <waldo323_> lol
[20:37] <gamerchick02> but nobody seeding?
[20:37] <snap-l> Just sitting there idle
[20:37] <snap-l> same problem with Jamendo
[20:37] <gamerchick02> yeah
[20:38] <ColonelPanic001> hi
[20:38] <Dr_Cli> hello
[20:38] <gamerchick02> howdy.
[20:38] <snap-l> Got a list of 67 Peers
[20:39] <ColonelPanic001> sue them all.
[20:39] <snap-l> but apparently none of them are able to send me anything
[20:39] <gamerchick02> i first read that as a list of "67 Beers"
[20:39] <gamerchick02> and i was like, SWEET, 67 BEERS!!
[20:39] <gamerchick02> but no.
[20:39] <ColonelPanic001> take one down, pass it around...
[20:39] <gamerchick02> 66 bottles of beer on the wall
[20:39] <ColonelPanic001> proceed
[20:39] <bmcmahon> perditious was a word at one time, now it's gone and it would fit very well into our conversation about stupid human beahviour
[20:40] <snap-l> At this rate, I can download the individual files faster
[20:40] <gamerchick02> my quote still stands. "People, what a bunch of bastards."
[20:40] <bmcmahon> gamerchick02: I see your 'bunch of bastards' and raise you 'a bag of assholes'
[20:41] <ColonelPanic001> bundle of idiots!
[20:41] <gamerchick02> i was quoting the IT Crowd. but you have a point.
[20:41] <gamerchick02> :)
[20:42] <bmcmahon> rick_h_: have you played with $.proxy this shit is awesome
[20:43] <gamerchick02> "I came here to drink milk and kick ass, and I just finished my milk."
[20:47] <snap-l> Hey, now it's working
[20:52] <gamerchick02> heh. complaining to the internet works, i guess
[20:56] <snap-l> Thank you, Internet.
[20:57] <TheInternet> you're welcome
[20:58] <Blazeix> The elders of the Internet heard your complaint.
[21:08] <gamerchick02> they did!!
[21:14] <snap-l> And it finished. :)
[21:16] <snap-l> Wolfger: Re: the Spotlight D6, I made the joke that I could use it to see what I'd be that day.
[21:17] <snap-l> (This was an award that you could purchase with a certificate from your manager that was essentially a giant "Things Remembered"-like d6
[21:17] <snap-l> One side had "Spotlight" on it (which was the name of the program)
[21:17] <snap-l> and the other sides had different one-word leadership phrases (drawing ablank on them)
[21:19] <snap-l> shit like leadership, courage... (my cube is in the garage, and I haven't seen it in years)
[21:19] <snap-l> It was like a d6 of motivational bullshit.
[22:00] <gamerchick02> lol, motivational bullshit
[22:00] <gamerchick02> sounds like my last job
[22:01] <gamerchick02> gotta log out and back in. something to do with my mouse, gah
[22:05] <gamerchick02> why does my mouse do that?
[22:05] <gamerchick02> it'll just disappear from my main laptop screen and only be visible on the external
[22:37] <Wolfger> I keep my cube handy on my desktop. If anybody ever goes postal, I'm-a try an' knock his brains out with it.
[22:37] <Wolfger> I'm convinced it's deadly if your aim doesn't suck
[22:56] <snap-l> Wolfger: trie dat
[22:56] <snap-l> true dat
[22:57] <snap-l> greg-g: This is what I downloaded earlier: https://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=16&show=1301
[23:02] <snap-l> Got Gavin Harrison on drums
[23:05] <greg-g> snap-l: looks great
[23:49] <waldo323> hi
[23:55] <greg-g> rick_h_: dangerous question (time-wise for me): If I were to try out awesome, is if easy or hard to switch back and forth between it and gnome without losing much functionality of either (ie: during a transition period)
[23:55] <greg-g> yo yo waldo323
[23:56] <rick_h_> easy, you just log out, pick the other DE from the drop down
[23:56] <rick_h_> and relog in
[23:56] <rick_h_> all the apps/etc are ok
[23:57] <rick_h_> the keybindings might drive you bonkers for a bit back/forth
[23:57]  * greg-g nods
[23:57] <greg-g> that's ok
[23:57] <greg-g> I can deal with that
[23:57] <greg-g> so, cool, I might give it a while sometime :)
[23:57] <rick_h_> but yea, it just shows up as a DE option in the bottom of the gdm login
[23:57] <greg-g> s/while/whirl/
[23:58] <rick_h_> definitely :) I've got samples if you need anything
[23:58] <rick_h_> config/etc
[23:58] <rick_h_> autostart
[23:58] <greg-g> in your github?
[23:59] <greg-g> doesn't look like it
[23:59] <rick_h_> no, it's part of my personal files, havnfe't gotten it up there
[23:59] <rick_h_> but I can put up some things for you
[23:59] <greg-g> cool, no rush, I have no time right now, but maybe after I get to SF