[00:00] what do I know? [00:00] saruji: is your OS 64bit? [00:00] saruji: you cannot install windows programs on linux, if you want to try it using Wine, that may well work [00:00] szal lol i'm just saying this game was officially made for linux [00:00] szal yes i am afraid that that is the issue === ng_ is now known as zz_ng_ [00:00] Jeruvy, this was made for linux [00:01] saruji: what is the output of: uname -m [00:01] saruji: I see. [00:01] ActionParsnip, yes i have 64 bit 11.04 ubuntu [00:01] saruji: and is the game 64bit? [00:01] ActionParsnip, no it is 32 bit, i see where I am going wrong, but is there a way to run 32 bit games in a 64 bit OS? [00:02] ActionParsnip, like windows does [00:02] saruji: you may get joy with ia32-libs [00:02] ^ that [00:02] ActionParsnip, sweet, sudo apt-get install ia32 ? [00:02] saruji: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs [00:02] !info ia32-libs [00:02] Package ia32-libs does not exist in natty [00:02] hmm [00:03] saruji: this sort if thing is why 32bit is recommended [00:03] saruji: there are ways to run 32bit apps in 64bit OS though [00:03] ActionParsnip: saruji: apt-cache search ia32-libs : ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems [00:03] its there but i think its not in ubottu :p [00:04] TheEvilPhoenix: which repo is it in ? [00:04] Has anyone had any problems running xubuntu in a vbox? [00:04] ActionParsnip: um... lemme check in synaptic... [00:04] TheEvilPhoenix: apt-cache policy ia32-libs [00:05] ActionParsnip: universe === GateKeeper is now known as Guest92206 [00:05] uRock: none here [00:05] TheEvilPhoenix: thanks :) [00:05] 8) [00:05] saruji: make sure universe repo is enabled and install ia32-libs [00:05] my desktop isn't updating the display except for the mouse. how do i troubleshoot this? [00:05] i'm in a terminal right now on vt1 [00:05] ActionParsnip, got it installed [00:06] ActionParsnip, same error, thanks for trying [00:06] saruji: what error? [00:06] i can kill Xorg, but this has happened several times in the last few days. i'm no Xorg expert so i don't know where logs are, or if there are any that would be helpful. please give pointers like that if you have any [00:07] it seems to happen when coming back from screensave, but not consistently [00:07] a [00:07] TheEvilPhoenix, the same error as before: This installation doesn't support unknown on Linux / x86_64 [00:07] I tried all of my possible drivers for my graphics card, and all of them make my display blurry. but even without them I still have a problem. some fonts(usually on web pages) loose some pixels. and it can be hard to read. can I fix this? [00:07] er, oops [00:08] I am on 10.04 [00:08] saruji: then its detecting the OS itself probly via uname [00:08] snake__: which video chip? [00:08] saruji: vbox an install of Ubuntu 32-bit? [00:08] ActionParsnip, Nvidia [00:08] no, that'll be too tricky... [00:08] saruji: whatcha tryin to install anyways/ [00:08] snake__: nvidia make a wide range of chips, which model? [00:09] TheEvilPhoenix, I'm trying to install SimCity 3000 for linux, yea I can go the VM route thanks [00:09] how about a suggestion of where to ask these questions other than here? [00:09] anyone? [00:09] after suspending to ram, pulse audio volume controle is not working anymore [00:09] does anyone know why? === michael is now known as Guest90351 [00:09] ozzloy, askubuntu.com or the forums [00:09] ozzloy, ubuntu forum [00:09] ozzloy, screen savers can often crash the X server try turning them off and then if ok set them back on one at a time [00:10] snake__: what isthe output of: lsb_release -d; lspci | grep -i vga [00:10] or just use the generic blank screen blanker.. [00:10] after suspending to ram, pulse audio volume controle is not working anymore; can anyone help? [00:10] hello guys, confused: Additional Drivers reads: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system... But my NVIDIA acceleration graphics are showing a green dot? [00:10] Dr_Willis, saruji i'll try those places. robin0800 i'll try that too. [00:11] also says "this driver is activated but not currently in use" ? [00:13] saruji: can you give a pastebin of: sudo lshw -C display; dpkg -l | grep nvidia; cat /etc/lsb-release Thanks [00:14] ActionParsnip, Sorry, I took so long, I was trying to find it in my manuals. i didn't, but here's that output: http://pastebin.com/en0HNRVS [00:15] snake__: ok then run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current should be ok. You may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig to make an xorg.conf and restart X or the system to apply [00:16] ActionParsnip, display http://pastebin.com/Jpu0Cnfi [00:17] ActionParsnip: proper activation of the proprietary nVidia driver usually requires a reboot [00:18] question; does ubuntu server support alternate cpufreq governers? Or is that an ubuntu-desktop-only thing? [00:18] szal: you can just restart X too, quicker [00:18] AlanJCastonguay_, I use cpufreq-utils === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [00:19] saruji: the command is longer than that. Please run the whole thing as one and pastebin the result please :) [00:19] is there a way to half-tab? (4 spaces) [00:19] ActionParsnip, lol ok i was not sure [00:19] cypha, that would be a text editor setting [00:19] or can "shift+space" be able to do that? [00:19] Dr_Willis, can I do that in vim? [00:19] cypha, very likely yes.. you can do most everything else under the sun in vim. [00:20] how do you restart x? is that just log in log out? [00:20] given ive seen whole books written on vi and vim. :) its got an amazing feature set. [00:20] snake__, 'sudo service gdm restart' is one way [00:20] snake__, but ive seen cases where the nvidia drivers need a reboot to get going.. [00:20] ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Fehc9ZLW [00:21] dli: When I run cpufreq-info, it says "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU" for all 4 cores. This is 2.6.32-32-generic-pae #62; stock [00:21] AlanJCastonguay_, what's your cpu? [00:21] AlanJCastonguay_, could be its not a feature in the pae kernel. How much ram you got? [00:22] dli: 2 Intel Xeon 2.8; do you need the cpuid stuffs? [00:22] AlanJCastonguay_, no, I just wonder whether xeon support cpufreq [00:22] dli: Only 1GB stuffed. I don't know why it decided to use PAE. [00:23] saruji: try: sudo nvidia-xconfig then reboot [00:23] ActionParsnip, ok thanks [00:23] AlanJCastonguay_, I think you can specific which kernel package to use: apt-cache search linux-image [00:24] AlanJCastonguay_, the only difference between server and desktop is what packages come installed... mostly gui vs servers [00:25] psusi: Same kernel image, though? [00:25] so I am using the 11.04 alternate amd64 cd because i don't want X to be installed automatically. And the Installer just arrives at "Select and Install Software" and doesn't let me select anything? [00:25] psusi, his hardware is server also [00:25] pae kernel - is normally for 32bit systems with more then 4gb of ram. [00:25] !pae [00:25] To use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info [00:26] AlanJCastonguay_, yea [00:26] AlanJCastonguay_, I guess your xeon doesn't support cpufreq, after all, you paid for server speed, no need to save on electricity [00:27] dli: Booo. I was actually hoping to just make it a little /quieter/ while sitting next to it for a few months. No need for this much CPU speed at the moment. [00:27] a quick google for xenon support cpufreq has a few interesting hits... [00:28] most interesting i saw so far --> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaai/cpufreq/CPUFreqDriver.htm [00:28] Dr_Willis: reading, thanks. [00:29] guide may be a little old.. but xenon does support cpufreq :) [00:29] 2.16.133.55 [00:30] I don't have a cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver though; [00:30] cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver [00:30] powernow-k8 [00:30] on a amd here... [00:31] yeah; I don't have a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ psuedo-directory at all. [00:33] hi, when I connect to vnc server on my ubuntu box I just see a blank desktop screen. I ask it to server :0 but can only connect to :1 with viewer [00:33] what gives ? [00:36] my graphics are a bit unstable on Radeon RC410 natty, is there a better driver? [00:36] do you have the proprietary driver -- system/hardware drivers -- detects proprietary drivers loads them if available [00:37] proprietary means driver from ati [00:37] rhin0, says no proprietory drivers in use [00:38] maybe check on the ati website glennie [00:38] join #5021 [00:38] My system fan is always running at ~4000 RPM. Is there any way to control this via the terminal? [00:38] Zimsky: what make / model system? [00:39] It is a custom build server. I have Ubuntu Server 11.04 installed [00:39] rhin0, so not in the restricted drivers part of ubuntu then? [00:39] Zimsky: what motherboard? [00:39] not sure I always just click on system administration hardware drivers from the menus [00:39] Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L [00:40] Dr_Willis: I installed a non-PAE 2.6.35-25-generic, it also has no cpufreq modules in /lib/modules/.../kernel/, and nothing in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ or /sys/devices/system/cpu/cp0/cpufreq/ [00:40] how can I install a base system only? the alternate dvd just starting installing like every software that ever existed onto my 4GB USB drive... [00:40] Zimsky: ok and is it the cpu fan? [00:41] It is SYS_FAN2 [00:41] maybe try xubuntu or lubuntu el_bb -- ubuntu for smaller capacity systems [00:41] Zimsky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480 [00:41] My CPU fan is controlled by BIOS [00:41] Zimsky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=955218 [00:42] It's not overheating, I just need to control the fan speed so it is not always running at full RPM [00:42] Zimsky: http://superuser.com/questions/67974/cant-control-case-fan-speeds [00:42] Zimsky: please check the forum post it will explain checking the trip speeds [00:42] rhin0: thanks. but the alternate installer used to let you choose what to isntall [00:43] huh... even without cpufreq, the fans are all running slower after rebooting into the non-PAE kernel. Maybe it's configured differently... *hope* [00:43] el_bb: you have to select install command line system [00:43] el_bb: i believe you hit F6 at the boot menu to select more options [00:44] el_bb, or use the minimal iso and build up [00:44] Dr_Willis, dli and others: Thanks for the guidence. [00:44] !minimal | el_bb [00:44] el_bb: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [00:44] Zimsky: looks liek a pain, you may need a hard adjuster to change it [00:47] histo: yeah, "F4 Modes" let's you choose the command like system [00:47] thanks, exactly what i was looking for [00:47] el_bb: there ya go [00:47] morning peoples, i got a new hd today and i want to copy entire op system onto it from old one, whats the easiest way to do this? [00:47] copy *.* lol [00:48] hammoommah: that is more complicated than it seems. The easiest is to install fresh on the new drive, then copy over you /home dir from the old drive to the new one. [00:49] Dulak: you're slow :P [00:49] szal: yup [00:49] I'd use rsync [00:50] hammoommah: Another option that I've had lots of success with is filezilla [00:50] ok coolies [00:50] Does anyone know what the best way to get the drivers for the canon pixma mp490 is? [00:50] what was first idea i got dc'd after i posted :( [00:50] Dulak: hammoommah: that is more complicated than it seems. The easiest is to install fresh on the new drive, then copy over you /home dir from the old drive to the new one. [00:50] hammoommah: no you can copy the files [00:51] hammoommah: I would recomend using something like rsync [00:51] kk [00:51] hammoommah: or you could dd from one drive to the other but be carefull with that. [00:51] eparted cant drive copy? [00:51] dd? [00:51] you said easiest, not fastest [00:52] does anyone know how to sync FF with google nexus? [00:52] dd would be the fastest but you have to do some stuff to grow the partitions to match the new sizes you'd want on the new drive [00:52] i dont want to fresh install as i need all apps downloaded again :( so i'll try using rsync............ hello google [00:52] hammoommah: dd if=/dev/sdx(of old drive) of=/dev/sdx(new hard drive) [00:52] paulie: You need Firefox on the Nexus. [00:53] hammoommah: if the new drive is bigger you'll want to use rsync [00:53] I'd suggest dcfldd over dd, it will show you your progress. [00:53] clonezilla automatically grows the drive if the new drive is bigger. [00:53] thanks @histo [00:53] hammoommah: ok, hit me up when you screw it up and you are installing from scratch anyways. G'luck. [00:53] hammoommah: boot to a live cd partition the new drive. then rsync the old drives conetents to the new ones [00:53] good idea [00:53] hammoommah: or clonezilla is a viable option if you are unsure [00:53] thanks for advice poeples [00:53] NP o/ good luck mate. [00:53] ive heard thats pretty good [00:54] I have but the instruction FF give are different fishscene [00:54] paulie: I'm unsure then. I set it up back in February and removed firefox a couple of months ago. =\ [00:55] Jordan_U: yo yoda, you alive? [00:55] Does anyone know what the best way to get the drivers for the canon pixma mp490 is? [00:55] fishscene: ok np [00:56] Spudnut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299260 check that post [00:56] Spudnut: google search most likely [00:56] Spudnut: or forum search [00:57] i had read that topic but sadly all of the link lead to a 404 on the canon server [00:57] Spudnut, is that a printer? camera? [00:57] it is a printer [00:58] linuxprinting.org database Spudnut [00:58] hey guys im trying to recover a usb drive that is not showing up with fdisk -l dmesg doesnt say aything about it either..what should I do next? I dont think I can run ddrescue bc I dont know the dev name and lsusb doesnt show it either..but it does power on but it does not get past the 'welcome' screen. [00:59] jimisrvrox: iow, -> electronics recycling [00:59] what do you mean, the welcome screen? [01:00] but what szal said sounds about right... [01:00] Spudnut: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MP_series/MP490.aspx?type=download&page=1 [01:00] Spudnut: canon site has drivers === GateKeeper is now known as Guest51112 [01:01] sorry had looked in the us section and not found them along with links mentioned in the forums [01:01] arfbtwn: essentially usb music player. Put batteries in it. Turns on goes to welcome screen but never gets to where you can actually play anything. [01:01] Spudnut: I always use UK, they seem to nearly always have the drivers. If one server is down try another [01:01] jimisrvrox: yup, sounds like it's dead as a dodo [01:02] * szal tried Canon UK once when helping someone out, but Canon Europe seems to be the better way to go [01:02] jimisrvrox, look at the manufacturer's website, sometimes flashing the firmware to it fixes it [01:02] ActionParsnip: i've found uk is more friendly to linux than mainstream us. 80% of all drivers ive found for ubu have been non us. [01:02] yeah thats what I thought I was just hoping there was some possible way that since it turned on I could recover stuff from it [01:02] thank you this is my first time setting up a linux system of any sort so trying to figure everything out [01:03] not that im an expert or authority by any means. [01:03] Phr3d13: ok but I cant get the drive to show up on fdisk...so how would you go about doing that? [01:03] jimisrvrox: he said check firmware updates on manu website, that has nothing to do with fdisk. === will is now known as Guest6499 === Guest6499 is now known as RealOpty [01:04] jimisrvrox: also if this is a mp3 player i think i saw you say, there may be a way either in manual, or via a pinprick button that will do a full reset of the OS. [01:04] yeah mp3 player..tried the reset button..nadda === Cain` is now known as Cain [01:05] FriGiN: I find the UK friendlier than the US generally ;) [01:05] TY all for the help have downloaded the drivers and will install them! [01:05] 85% Downloading the updates for 11.04 [01:05] jimisrvrox: have you verified just a press will reset? again manual from manu website is a good place to start atm [01:05] ActionParsnip: unless you are a pound short of a pint :P [01:06] FriGiN: guess it depends where you go [01:06] lol @ ActionParsnip [01:06] Does anybody have a suggestion for an app that will allow me to keep track of hours worked? I work from home and it would be nice to keep track some way thats easy and can export a spreadsheet or something like that. [01:06] honestly i just wanted to say pound short of a pint. [01:07] !ot [01:07] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [01:08] A friend of mine had a virginmedia wireless router sent to them through the post , does anyone know the set-up page and how to password protect it? [01:09] paulie, thats not really an ubuntu support question; access the router through a browser and check the manual [01:09] hello, I installed 11.04 and whenever I watch videos and turn up the volume to the maximum the sounds that comes out is terrible. What could be the problem? [01:10] vivian, reduce the PCM in alsamixer a bit [01:10] the speakers are not busted that's for sure because the sound came out nice and smooth when I had windows 7 2 hours ago [01:10] bashang: you mean I can't use it at the maximum volume? [01:10] bazhang I meant :) [01:11] vivian, do you want distortions and such? [01:11] vivian, then try the alsamixer controls (if not) [01:11] of course not, but what's the point of having 100% of volume if you can't use it? [01:11] vivian, windows only goes to 100% pulse lets you go to higher than 100% [01:12] how do i install frostwire on ubuntu x64 11.04? [01:12] !frostwire [01:12] frostwire is a totally open source !gnutella client, forked from the Limewire source code. For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire [01:12] linux_is_my_hero, ^ [01:13] Phr3d13: yes, now that you mention it... it's over 100% but is there any kind of adjustment you can make to allow a PC to handle that much power? 100% on a laptop is not really that high :( [01:13] i get this error. i need help... http://pastebin.com/sYEcKc3R [01:14] vivian, some audio players have eq plugins and such [01:14] is there anyway i can protect an ip/host from beign blocked by denyhost? .. it keeps blocking my router (192.168.1.1) (have added it to the hosts.allow file) [01:15] Phr3d13: in my case I'm not really using any audio player, it's just youtube and even at 100% (not higher) I can hear this squeaking sound coming out :( [01:16] vivian: you sure you arent getting feedback? [01:16] FriGiN: what do you mean by "getting feedback"? [01:17] vivian: mic/speaker feedback [01:17] vivian: generally overmodulation will be clicks and pops not squeaks and squeals. [01:17] vivian: set volume a touch lower in alsamixer, then crank speakers [01:17] Hello . . . how is the process for configuring Ubuntu to have multiple pointers? [01:18] FriGiN: I still don't get what you are saying ;( [01:18] bbiab, if anyone sees Jordan_U tell him i'll be back to try his ideas out [01:18] What is the *deal*?! Did I blaspheme Firefox too many times that they randomly make it freeze now [01:18] it has flat out hung for 20 seconds TWICE in the only five minuets I've used it ever. [01:18] ActionParsnip: I don't have external speakers, it's the internal ones in my laptop [01:19] vivian: what make / model? [01:20] vivian, is there a volume wheel or button? [01:20] 97% done downloading for 11.04 upgrade [01:20] Phr3d13, no need for that [01:20] ActionParsnip: Gateway MS2285 [01:20] * Phr3d13 has his fingers crossed [01:20] vivian: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh [01:20] vivian, make sure any built in microphones are muted [01:20] vivian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_feedback [01:21] Phr3d13: button [01:21] ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8d810561913ecbbad34eb79d9d1778e26c1fd620 [01:22] i get this error. i need help... http://pastebin.com/SMbVeaaQ [01:22] bluetooth issue [01:22] !here | allowoverride [01:22] allowoverride: Please give at least an overview of your problem *here* (all in one line) - you will get a much greater audience. If you have to use more than 3 lines, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com [01:23] its all in the pastebin [01:23] allowoverride, did you try un/re-installation [01:23] yes [01:24] robin0800: I muted them but still :( [01:24] i try all i know, that is why im here lol [01:24] i give [01:24] szal: thanks ;) [01:24] do you know bluetooth trbshting? [01:24] it used to work, i believe the upgrade last year may have janked mods [01:24] anyone happens to know what's a safe max temperature a raid NAS box internal can get? (I set my emergency shutdown if temp reaches 65Celsius)-- am wonder if anyone knows if harddrives can safely withstand 80Celsius.. sorry this may be off topic.. it's the only question i have, any #channel redirect appreciated thanks.. [01:24] vivian: try adding: options snd_hda_intel model=laptop to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf reboot to test [01:24] typical when you do upgraded lol.. things break [01:25] allowoverride: did you remove the bluez daemon? [01:25] do I copy and paste this: options snd_hda_intel model=laptop [01:25] yes === tomcheng86 is now known as tomcheng76 [01:25] vivian: yes, put it in the file [01:26] vivian: ? me [01:26] yagoo: I would look to your hard drive manufacturers specs to see what temp range [01:26] vivian: gateway build quality is far from good btw, you may need a bit more tweaking [01:26] allowoverride: why did you remove the bluez daemon? [01:26] why not [01:26] its back [01:26] ActionParsnip: thanks let me try that [01:26] allowoverride: well it won't work without it and that is your error [01:26] cos you're trying to use bluetooth? [01:26] allowoverride: ??? [01:26] histo: where did you find that info? [01:26] vivian: nevermind, thought you ment me [01:27] obviously [01:27] histo: where did you find that info? how do you know? site your source ;) [01:28] just to let you know, im not a noob, however, this bluetooth issue didnt exist prior to upgrading, i just noticed yesterday when i wanted to transfer some files via obex [01:28] ActionParsnip: do I add it at the end of the file? [01:28] I am running natty, installed ratpoison, only to see that when I run a terminal, it runs GNOME TERMINAL. wtf? Does anyone know how to change this? [01:28] i have a dell, bout 2 yrs old, the bluetooth light is not on, which means, the kernel is most likely the issue. [01:28] some mod, maybe hcisomething,, [01:28] I strings'd the binary, "gnome" isn't in it anywhere [01:28] and the package contains no obvious rc file [01:28] allowoverride: from your pastebin it can't locate the bluez daemon [01:28] histo: true [01:29] when i try to run it, i get that error [01:29] allowoverride: when you try to run what? [01:29] i believe the hardware is not being recongnize [01:29] bluetoothd, did you know thats what needs to be run? [01:29] or sudo service bluetooth start, or sudo bluetooth start [01:30] all of which when i do status, say, its not running.... [01:30] get it? [01:30] !enter | allowoverride [01:30] allowoverride: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [01:30] yadda bazhang [01:30] no one else is talking [01:30] allowoverride, pardon? [01:30] allowoverride: service start bluez [01:30] ? [01:30] !enter | allowoverride [01:30] histo: sb [01:31] ? [01:31] do get all anal,, its just a chat box [01:31] allowoverride, thats enough [01:31] !attitude | allowoverride [01:31] allowoverride: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [01:31] i volunteer as well bazhang [01:31] either help or shut up [01:31] simple [01:31] allowoverride, follow the channel guidelines [01:31] brb [01:32] allowoverride: actually I believe bluetooth is now handled by udev. So you may need to do it a different way [01:32] for a keyless ssh login, i want to add my .pub key to the remotes autorized_hosts right? [01:32] allowoverride: please check this out see if it helps specifically the bluetoothd -u parts [01:33] their wouldnt be any issues cloning a drive using dd to a hybrid drive correCt/ [01:33] aeiou: ssh-copy-id will put it in the appropriate place [01:33] odix: other than the partition size will remain the same as the old drive [01:33] histo: i only have bluetooth , not bluez when i tab complete service.. start [01:33] how is that bad ? [01:34] histo, ah nice! [01:34] histo: opps i missed that... ill check [01:34] allowoverride: yes as I said bluetooth is now part of udev so check that link [01:34] what link? [01:34] allowoverride: I was thinking of the old way I haven't used bluetooth in ages. [01:34] allowoverride: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,77723.0.html [01:34] aeiou: yeah nifty little script [01:34] i got distracted, and didnt see a link, paste link again? i dont see it [01:34] ActionParsnip: hi, I'm back. I added that line at the end of the file (I don't know if the location matters) and the sound is still squeaking :( [01:35] allowoverride: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,77723.0.html [01:35] ActionParsnip: is there any other tweaking you could think about? [01:35] vivian: you'll need things to add to that file to make it good, i suggest you remove the added line as it isn't benefitting you [01:35] histo: i can't get it to load [01:35] histo, the operating system isnt even viewable it seems [01:36] vivian: look for your laptop model with regards to alsa-base.conf you may find code to add like the one I gave you [01:36] histo: service bluez start bluez: unrecognized service [01:36] histo: bluez is already the newest version. [01:36] odix: I would confirm that the data was actually copied and you didn't reverse the dd command [01:36] it is copied.. [01:36] allowoverride: keep reading on that page as they sugest bluetoothd -u [01:36] ActionParsnip: in the forums? [01:36] i dunno...its weird [01:36] histo: thats always a nightmare [01:37] i also chk'd bios/cmos and bluetooth is anabled [01:37] oh... ok,, brb [01:37] Hey all. I'm looking to write a little script that will allow me to run a program under a different directory. Any pointers on where I can read up on scripting under Ubuntu? [01:37] allowoverride: if that doesn't work I would search the forums. I'm not that up to date with bluetooth [01:37] vivian: the web at large, even for different distros. alsa is alsa in any distro [01:37] <-- Noob, btw. [01:37] histo: ok, blueman is installed as well [01:37] ActionParsnip: got it, thanks for helping :) [01:37] brb [01:37] oh ok,,, histo thanks anyway,,, anyone else feel free to jump in with my bluetooth issue [01:38] Hey everyone. Has anyone noticed weirdness with the BM4312 chipset in ubuntu? My wireless connects momentarily, and then dies, and the password stops working. [01:38] allowoverride: if you run: bluetooth do you get an icon in the system tray? [01:38] ohzie: when it drops. Run: dmesg | tail it may give clues [01:38] !bluetooth | allowoverride [01:38] allowoverride: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [01:39] ActionParsnip: Thank you! I will try this! =] [01:39] histo: been there.... [01:39] ChipDSnow: do you mean run a command and have it manipulate files in a different directory? your question seems muddled [01:39] im gonna try bluetoothd -u [01:39] ohzie: common causes of that sort of thing are busy wireless channel or ipv6 causing issues [01:40] histo: ok, that got sudo service bluetooth status to show, bluetooth is running,,,ill try blueman now [01:40] brb [01:40] I've discovered the joys of Nethack, and I want to drop to command line, type in one command, and have it run. [01:40] ActionParsnip: I'm not using ipv6(that I'm aware of) and it works fine on the HP laptop and the Asus laptop. [01:40] ActionParsnip: I'm suspecting the chipset is weird because I've just heard that sometimes the bm43xx stuff has been weird in linux. [01:41] histo: ok, blueman starts, nothing is listed, and the light on dell laptop is still off [01:41] It is perfectly possible that I am incorrect. [01:41] i have the service to start, but not with -u per update-rc.d bluetooth enable [01:41] ohzie: i'd disable ipv6 using boot option: ipv6.disable=1 it may help [01:41] brb [01:41] rebooting [01:41] ActionParsnip: Do I put that in my kernel line? In grub? [01:41] or lilo [01:41] it's grub now right? [01:42] ohzie: check first with ip a | grep inet6 [01:42] wabznasm: Yessir I have that turned on. [01:42] ohzie: worth turning off - can do it by boot as ActionParsnip said but also possible to do it another way that I did 2 days ago and now cant find... [01:43] wabznasm: Where would I put that boot option? [01:43] Hello, I'm trying to set up a lightweight system without gnome or kde or anything but I can't get into the "expert install" when trying to boot form a USB-drive with both usb-creator and unetbootin. I have no cd-drive and I don't know if the mobo has support for pxe (it should have but I should also be able to do it from my usb-stick ;p) [01:43] any ideas? [01:44] ohzie: I let you foloow ActionParsnip advice on that one - I don't want to override what he is saying [01:44] ohzie: just thought I'd mention the check for ipv6 being active first in case you didn't have to disable [01:44] Trasp: use the alternate iso and install a command line system [01:44] wabznasm: No, I intend to use what he said "disable ipv6 using boot option ipv6.disable=1" I'm just asking where I would put that option. [01:44] Trasp, or anything? just a system without X? [01:45] ohzie: yes in the quotes with: quiet splash [01:45] function scrapeFreeSearchPages() { [01:45] Logger::getInstance('knd')->writeLog('debug', 'scrapeFreeSearchPages() called'); [01:45] $page = 1; [01:45] / For debuggong [01:45] $bookUpdated = 0; [01:45] $bookUnchanged = 0; [01:45] wabznasm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:45] histo: rebooted yeilded same error message from pastebin - failed to apply network settings... conf file errors,,, blutooth netowrk unaable to connect [01:45] ActionParsnip: ty! [01:45] Trasp: oI recommend LXDE [01:45] Trasp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems [01:45] baxhang: Well, I'll have a openssh-server installed from the beginning and then throw in fluxbox [01:45] ohzie: you will need to run: sudo update-grub to apply the setting [01:45] allowoverride: I have no idea. Perhaps the forums? [01:46] Trasp: fluxbox is light too :) [01:46] ActionParsnip, I'm using that one on my laptops actually, sweet, but I just need X to run an application on a hard working server so... [01:46] FriGiN: Found the firmware update for it. Windows recognizes that the usb is plugged in. However it does not show up in the devices and says that Windows could not recognize it and cant install drivers..but it seems to be that it should work being that it recognized that it was plugged in. [01:46] histo, Thanks! [01:46] ActionParsnip: I was about to put it in the grub.cfg [01:46] Trasp, you may wish to try lxde then as ActionParsnip recommends [01:46] will try the alternate cd [01:46] am I doing it wrong? [01:46] bazhang: he didn't want lxde [01:46] histo: there are 1400 plus linux users in here, someone will be able to help out. ;) thanks for trying, also, i think the -u setting doesnt apply since udev handles it now, which means i prolly need to update the rc.X scripts... sighs... [01:47] ohzie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html [01:47] bazhang, As mentioned, I allready do use it on a couple of my systems :) [01:47] ohzie: no, put it in /etc/default/grub [01:47] allowoverride: I would try reinstalling all the blue* stuff perhaps something got derped during the upgrade [01:47] histo, he said gnome or kde [01:47] ohzie: you NEVER edit grub.cfg [01:47] * ohzie shamefaced. [01:48] bazhang: he just wants plain X [01:48] bazhang: lxde is far from that [01:48] histo: k [01:48] histo, as is fluxbox [01:48] could you repaste my pastebin to me [01:48] i rebooted [01:48] bazhang: I didn't suggest fluxbox I pointed out that he could do a command line install. Then install X or whatever he wants [01:49] Well then, what should I use to get a minimal x-system then? [01:49] Trasp, alternate cd or minimal cd [01:49] I'm not new to *nix but I don't use it too much either [01:49] !minimal | Trasp [01:49] Trasp: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [01:49] Trasp: I'd recommend installing a server image. :| [01:49] allowoverride: http://pastebin.com/sYEcKc3R [01:50] thanks histo, u cool ;) [01:50] Trasp: and then installing from there [01:50] Now i just asked what I should use to get "plain X" as you argued about ;p [01:50] Trasp: a 'minimal' x-system will have to include some kind of window manager. LXDE, XFCE, fluxbox, just a few of the lighter ones [01:50] histo: the 2nd paste bin, thanks, thats the first one [01:50] histo: they diff, 2nd has more info [01:50] th0r, As I thought form the beginning then :) thanks [01:50] guys [01:50] anyone use irc with terminal ? [01:51] is there a ck kernel for ubuntu with bfs? [01:51] irssi [01:51] cccaldas, screen and irssi ? [01:51] hmmmmmm [01:51] is it run on mac ? [01:51] Trasp: I have used xfce for years and find it just about right. But I have to admit to a developing interest in lxde [01:51] invisiblek, btrfs? [01:51] bazhang: Butter Better Bee Tree [01:51] no, bfs: brain f*ck scheduler [01:51] Hello, where are the network configuration files kept? There's nothing @ /etc/network/interfaces however eth0 and eth1 are connected?? [01:51] cccaldas, why ask here? this is ubuntu support [01:51] cccaldas: screen+irssi = the win. [01:52] ohzie: thkx [01:52] bazhang: sorry, but the unix applications are basicaly the same... or not ? [01:52] allowoverride: http://pastebin.com/SMbVeaaQ [01:52] cccaldas, not [01:52] what runs on mac runs on linux, (most cases) [01:52] cccaldas, try a mac channel, or check macports [01:52] seems like you can't clone from a regular drive to a hybrid [01:53] odix: what do you mean by hybrid drive? [01:53] bazhang: ok, sorry, but is it necessary ? [01:53] hybrid hard drive [01:53] cccaldas, its moot though, /msg alis list *mac* or whatever to get a support channel, its offtopic here [01:54] bazhang: ok [01:54] odix: that shouldn't matter [01:54] odix: Oh jeeze don't use those they're nasty. #personalopinion [01:54] ya were having problems here [01:55] nvm, found this: https://launchpad.net/~chogydan/+archive/ppa [01:55] odix: md5sum the data and see if it matches I garantee it's different something went wrong during hte copy [01:56] odix: data is data it doesn't matter what it is put on. [01:56] its something a little funnier, we tried with windows to, which has a backup recovery, and the recovery o/s loads but doesnt see the main o/s. something about write protection. i used dd to first copy the image to local hd then local hd to other hd [01:57] ill keep ya posted [01:57] odix: what dd command did you use exactly [01:57] if and of [01:58] no byte lengths [01:58] odix: yeah if what and of what? [01:58] odix: did you if the image and of the device? [01:58] dd if=/dev/myhd of=/my/img.ing [01:58] dd if=/my/img of=/my/newhd [01:58] odix: that will make an image file of myhd [01:58] odix: and that should write the image to the device [01:59] ;\ [01:59] odix: I would check the md5sum [01:59] !resetpanel [01:59] To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [01:59] ok, thanks [01:59] odix: that will confirm that you data was written appropriately and matches. [02:00] !md5sum | odix [02:00] odix: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [02:00] im trying to install BT5 on my EeePC with 2 HDDs. 1 x 4gb and 1x8gb. I installed BT5 on the 8GB HDD. but it doesn't work when i try to boot? [02:00] awea-: wront channel === Auriel_ is now known as Auriel [02:00] awea-, #backtrack-linux for that [02:00] awea-: s/wront/wrong [02:00] im going to very a whole hd and the img file, right ? [02:00] i can't post on #backtrack-linux [02:01] awea-, not our problem [02:02] awea, read the topic [02:02] bbiab [02:07] does anyone know how to run a script after ubiquity install complete? (d-i preseed/late_command not work for me) [02:08] I'm dual booting ubuntu and win7. If I mount the windows partition under ubuntu and delete some files will windows know that those files have been deleted when it boots next time, or will the OS not recognize that the files were deleted and still reserve space on disk for them [02:08] madsailor, delete them from where, what files [02:08] im having this weird issue, when i logged in today i typed w as usual and i saw a root login and then a second later it was gone.. http://pastebin.com/3p6XjAt5 -- any ideas? [02:09] madsailor, windows will notice the files were deleted. i do it all the time. [02:09] I'm deleting files from the win ntfs partition, but I'm booted into ubuntu on the ubuntu partition [02:10] madsailor, bad idea then. for the exact ramifications, try ##windows [02:10] rad_sci_guy, thanks...so your disk space from the deleted files is recognized as being free when you boot back into windows [02:11] madsailor: aslong as you dont delete system files it should be fine [02:11] leeeroooy_j, nope...just random pictures [02:11] madsailor: or anything that would cause windows to have problem if missing (those new antiviruses that BSOD you if not working are a good example lol) [02:11] madsailor, i'm pretty sure. I haven't removed huge amounts of files mind you. [02:11] hey guys [02:11] madsailor: just pictures? then you re good, do it [02:12] aslong as they re not related to windows itself you can do what you want [02:12] just don't delete files from the windows system folders or you'll be sorry :) [02:12] but keep in mind what bazhang said about #windows if you think you want more info you better ask there [02:12] It'd be nice if QT apps obeyed fonts when using something besides the defaults... was that really not tested at all? [02:13] >_< [02:13] magn3ts, was there an actual question in there? [02:13] magn3ts, what apps, etc [02:13] histo, thank! Exactly what I wanted, just like booting from pxe [02:14] anyone have any ideas on my problem? or why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/3p6XjAt5 [02:14] leeeroooy_j, , rad_sci_guy, thanks. Yup...won't be touching anything important to windows unless Im in windows. Thanks for the info. I think I will check in #windows, but thanks for the input [02:14] How do I disable X11/GDM on start-up [02:14] !nox | Sargun_Screen [02:14] Sargun_Screen: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode [02:15] does anyone know how to run a script after ubiquity install complete? (d-i preseed/late_command not work for me) [02:15] what is the gnome monitor program called [02:15] mrdeb, top [02:15] no the monitorresolution like two monitors [02:15] or htop if you like colors mrdeb [02:15] !xrandr > mrdeb [02:15] mrdeb, please see my private message === tum is now known as Guest89655 [02:16] tuanht, whats that command supposed to do [02:16] tuanht, ie how is it failing you [02:17] Hello, I am using 11.04 desktop and am trying to connect to an FTP server. My windows box connects just fine using WinSCP, but the ubuntu box will not using the "Connect to Server" method and using FTP with creds. Is there something special I am supposed to be doing to get this to connect? [02:17] Defdef: try SFTP [02:17] instead of FTP [02:18] Can someone pastebin the contents of /usr/share/i18n/locales/eo_US and /usr/share/i18n/locales/la_AU ? [02:18] bazhang: i want run a script to copy some file that pre-generate in livecd to /target (install partition) [02:18] bazhang: i use d-i preseed/late_command in ubuntu.seed file, but it's not work [02:19] necrodearia, is that erroring out because cannot parse error? [02:19] hey all [02:19] what does it mean when i try to install ubuntu and i get a bunch of colored lines? i do have a nvidea graphics card if that helps. [02:19] necrodearia: http://pastebin.com/Ex5evB4m http://pastebin.com/9qMHKfYs [02:20] Will123456, thanks [02:20] necrodearia: no problem! [02:21] what is every one doing [02:21] tux-desktop, support [02:21] k [02:21] bazhang, all qt apps don't obey gnome font preferences. [02:21] I guess my question is, how can I fix that. [02:21] tux-desktop, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat [02:21] i know sorry [02:23] hi everyone, i hope such a question belongs here, i own an internet point and recently users have been complaining because my computers dont have flash and dont "open" some websites (i blocked them lol) one of the most required was megavideo, i actually blocked such websites and flash due to security concerns (although linux is not windows flash has its exploits that may target different OS'es and cause nastities), could anyone tell me if enabling f [02:23] lash would be safe? and also, should i allow megavideo (this is the off topic question, again sorry if it doesnt belong here)? you may want to know that most users use guest session and some limited account with ONLY "administrate system" not checked (so all other permissions are checked) and they all have firefox's default apparmor profile [02:24] can anyone provide their expertise with installing swftools on ubuntu? [02:24] Mark_benso, IMO, you can enable flash. [02:24] Mark_benso, if Flash is being used as an exploit... it would be through a megavideo video. [02:25] Hello. What command do I use to know how many files do I have in one folder? like, I want to know how many fonts do I have in /usr/share/fonts/funfonts I know I have to use the find command, but whatś next? [02:25] Mark_benso, are you using ubuntu? [02:25] Mark_benso, it will be through some SWF embedded somewhere inconspicuous. Better would be to use Chrome (Better plugin sandboxing) and have click-to-enable, so users will only use Flash when they explicitly need it. [02:25] Mark_benso: flash should be fine [02:25] magn3ts: so you say yes to flash but no to megavideo? [02:25] bazhang: yes 11.04 if it matters [02:25] Mark_benso, I'm saying Chrome + Click-to-enable. I don't know why you're worried about megavideo any more than any other site. [02:25] ActionParsnip: thank you very much, what about megavideo though? could i trust it? [02:25] Mark_benso, using noscript and flashblock as well? [02:25] Mark_benso: never used it [02:25] Why is megavideo any less trustworthy than any other flash site Mark_benso [02:26] bazhang: adblock plus + noscript, but in order to watch the vids they d have (i'd have in this case) to allow megavideo.com [02:26] Like I said, if Flash is used as an exploit... it will be on some random embed, not megavideo. [02:26] so ubuntu 11.04 is out.. I might be running Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS -- is there a command or way I can type something as root to determine what exact version of ubuntu im currently running? uname -a doesnt show it.. and cat /etc/debian* just says squeeze/sid [02:26] magn3ts: that was the most "complained" so im asking about this [02:26] clipse`: lsb_release -a [02:27] Mark_benso, meh, there's no reason to worry about Megavideo more than anything else, except for megavideo is usually used to host tv shows and movies and time wasters. === exiter is now known as str8jacket [02:27] clipse`: Why on earth are you still using 10.04? [02:27] clipse`: doesn't need root either [02:27] Mark_benso, flash is insecure, megavideo does not make it more so [02:27] I have a question about linux administration. Kind of detailed (I have no experience with linux admin). Should I write up my question on pastebin and post it? [02:27] Osmodivs: desktop and server are both supported still... [02:27] bazhang, this is much closer than any other font I've found. I don't know why this happens, but it bothers me, especially with my other fonts. http://imgur.com/Hszw8 [02:27] magn3ts: i looked the legal aspects and i should be fine [02:27] bazhang: what do you mean? [02:27] ActionParsnip thanks [02:27] Mark_benso, Didn't mean from a legal perspective. [02:27] Osmodivs i don't know. im going to upgrade [02:27] how do i permanently disable nomodeset in 10.10? [02:27] Mark_benso, dude, stop worrying about megavideo. It's irrelevant, completely. [02:28] clipse`: About time [02:28] histo: i removed all i could minus gnome-desktop which is dep'd to bluez* [02:28] linux_is_my_hero: add it in the quotes with: quiet splash in /etc/default/grub then run: sudo update-group [02:28] magn3ts: then if by "time wasters" you mean stuff that makes them sit for long time i should be happy with it since they pay for it lol [02:28] linux_is_my_hero, remove it from bootoptions? [02:28] allowoverride: yeah now reinstall them and see if the problem persists [02:28] Mark_benso, oh, right on then. [02:28] histo: thats the plan lol bbiab [02:28] Mark_benso, if this is an internet cafe thing, there are way better ways to do this. [02:28] like, way,way,way better ways. [02:28] allowoverride: bbiab? [02:28] histo: should i do a reboot? [02:28] clipse`: Lucid desktop support dies at the same time as Natty desktop does. i'd just wait :) [02:29] magn3ts: like? [02:29] thanks bazang the xrandr is good [02:29] allowoverride: I would after reinstalling just to make sure udev doesn't throw a fit [02:29] Mark_benso, thin clients? a persistent boot with volatile partition that is wiped on every boot, a tempfs in memory, etc. [02:29] actionparsnip: it disabled it temporarily for install, but as soon as i restart its going to undo that. so what you're saying is i should do what you said after i install but before i reboot, and it should permanently fix it? [02:29] Mark_benso, then you can just let users do whatever they want. [02:29] does anyone know where i can get ogg. files to use in frets on fire [02:29] Mark_benso, and it's all abandoned upon shutdown [02:29] linux_is_my_hero: adding it in that file will add it to all kernels and subsequent kernels, it will be used automagically [02:30] magn3ts: some users want "permanent" accounts, and i think setting it up with thin clients would have a cost [02:30] billy2007, convert to them? They're just an audio file like wav, mp3, etc. [02:30] Mark_benso, um, there'd be some cost if you already have the machines, sure. Otherwise it could be much cheaper potentially. But if they want persistent accounts... is that for data storage or what? [02:30] histo: hmmm lets see what bbiab could possibly mean,,, well brb is be right back, so maybe bb = be back, and i = in and a = a, and hmmm lets see, m, could mean min? so bbiab = be back in a min... not to mention over the past 20 yrs i have coined many acronyms from in chat boxes around the world, and finally i prefaced it with a statement, that would imply i would be right back... does that help? [02:30] i should cut and paste that to gedit for future use... ;) [02:30] clipse`: user may as well keep Lucid, the support for both ends at the same time [02:30] Mark_benso, it could still apply, they have a persistent home directory. That'd work fine, especially if they can't install software via root. [02:31] magn3ts, but then id have to configure the song myself to work in the game [02:31] ok, i'm upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and decided to hit d to view diffs... how do i get back to the upgrade process? [02:31] billy2007, I see, I misunderstood. I'd Google, I doubt you're going to get much traction here. [02:31] magn3ts: i already have the machines (been using them with ubuntu for 3 years now lol) and i cant tell (i dont know) what they need storage for besides bookmarks and preferences [02:32] magn3ts, thats my problem ive searched all over google but i cant find anyfiles [02:32] Phr3d13: press Q [02:32] note - #bluez-users are braindead... [02:32] bazhang: what did you mean by saying that megavideo doesnt make flash more insecure? i dont get it perhaps its my english [02:32] bbiab [02:32] Mark_benso, lol, I think to get the best result, you might want to hire someone or detail the use-case scenarios and solicit opinion. There's a lot of different ways to do this effectively depending on exactly what you're trying to do and allow your users to do. [02:33] ActionParsnip, Thank you! [02:33] Mark_benso, Flash is flash. Megavideo does not affect how safe it is. At all. [02:33] Phr3d13: np man [02:33] ActionParsnip, i think that should be stated somewhere in the upgrader [02:33] magn3ts: so you say that whatever they go watch even if its some bestiality they wont mess up my machine? [02:33] actionparsnip: thanks :-) after its installed im definately gunna try that :-) [02:34] Mark_benso, how is the content of a video going to affect the safeness of your machine? [02:34] wow @ Mark_benso [02:34] Mark_benso, more importantly, they're not going to find beastiality on megavideo. [02:34] histo: ok, starting from the beginning, i have installed bluez, i did a sudo service bluetooth start, no error, but status says - bluetooth not running [02:34] godofmischief: what? [02:34] magn3ts: i dont know how megavideo handles their stuff tbh, thats why im asking lol [02:34] i will start with trying to get that bluetooth light on dell laptop working FIRST [02:34] mark_benso: one of the reasons to go from windows to linux is that linux doesnt have all the backdoors for programmers to exploit when setting up porno sites [02:34] Mark_benso, this is getting way offtopic [02:35] Mark_benso, You really need to get past megavideo. [02:35] Mark_benso, lets move on please, and follow the channel guidelines for content as well [02:35] allowoverride: you need a bluetooth card in order to use bluetooth [02:35] linux_is_my_hero, that's not really accurate and is a massive over simplification. [02:35] allowoverride: the light is there on most systems. does lspci show anything? [02:35] bazhang: i dont think that bestiality is an offensive term , and by that i meant any content that wouldnt be fine, but if its getting off topic ill just beg forgivness and stop [02:35] magnets: really? then why do i never have problems getting porno for me and my girl since switching to ubuntu? [02:35] thanks everyone for your answers [02:36] ... [02:36] linux_is_my_hero, lets move on please [02:36] bazhang: sure [02:36] TheEvilPhoenix: it used to light up, that should clear things up, not to mention bios/cmos option is available and enabled... its not that simple dude [02:36] allowoverride, what's the model number of your laptop? [02:36] I'd just like to point out that i actually own a polite internet cafe, not a 18+ one lol [02:36] linux_is_my_hero, You're clearly not capable of having a technical discussion about the merits of linux security or why your assumptions about computer safety are wrong, but please stop spreading misinformation. [02:36] i woudlnt be here if it was that simple [02:36] allowoverride: what does lspci show? [02:36] same question [02:36] magn3ts, hes gone [02:36] Phr3d13: read above. that will null that request [02:36] allowoverride: pastebin the output of lspci [02:36] Ok, Guy i have a problem :/ [02:36] TheEvilPhoenix: sb... [02:36] * magn3ts stupid hidden join/parts [02:37] magn3ts: i dont think that's appropriate for here anyways [02:37] !offtopic > magn3ts [02:37] magn3ts, please see my private message [02:37] If i have just bought a little netbook what ubuntu should i install? [02:37] TheEvilPhoenix, telling new users in Ubuntu that it's automatically safe isn't on-topic in #ubuntu? [02:37] TheEvilPhoenix, thats enough, we are moving on [02:37] jfc [02:37] oops nevermind [02:37] DaSinge: 11.04 It has a new interface called unity that works well on netbooks with small wide screens [02:37] :P [02:37] allowoverride: any pastebin info? [02:37] DaSinge: what is the specification of the system? [02:38] TheEvilPhoenix: it takes more time than 1 min [02:38] DaSinge: 11.04 Desktop Edition, Xubuntu if you want a different interface/desktop manager [02:38] allowoverride: wasnt sure ;) [02:38] Isnt there a netbook version or should just get the desktop [02:38] !une | DaSinge [02:38] DaSinge: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs. [02:38] DaSinge: They only have 1 version onw [02:38] and one for servers [02:38] i usually if not always try to find out info linux users ask for when i ask for help... as i do the same [02:38] brb [02:38] so I guess 2 versions... [02:38] DaSinge, choose classic at login if you dont like unity [02:39] ^ [02:39] bazhang: He doesn't even have it installed yet :) [02:39] TheEvilPhoenix: its a broadcom copr BCM43224 [02:39] allowoverride, trying to get info to help you, what brand/model of bluetooth do you have? [02:39] kernel mod is wl [02:39] its onboard Phr3d13 [02:39] DaSinge: just grab the desktop one (not sure of a netbook flavour), its netbook friendly [02:39] DaSinge, get the regular desktop version for all [02:39] i do not believe the OS or lscpi will see it if it is not being recognized [02:39] i could be wrong [02:39] And Unity should work 'cause i got ubuntu 11.04 on a PC but it says there something worng with the graphics [02:39] allowoverride, no, really? what brand is it? do you know a model number? [02:40] allowoverride: that's a wireless card. [02:40] scroll up Phr3d13 [02:40] i know that [02:40] its a combo w/nic [02:40] allowoverride: i want the entire output [02:40] i left, it's not there for me [02:40] on the PC i have a Nvida GeForce 8800 [02:40] allowoverride: of lspci. not just that line [02:40] allowoverride: very rarely are they on the same card. [02:40] DaSinge: sweet, nvidia love linux :D [02:40] DaSinge, thats supported fine with the open drivers [02:40] its a dell ;) lol [02:40] TheEvilPhoenix, ActionParsnip: There is no X editions since 11.04. There is just 11.04 which should work fine on any platform. [02:40] a dell what? [02:41] I KNOW BUT UNTIY DONT WORK!!!!! [02:41] DaSinge, no caps please [02:41] soz [02:41] DaSinge: install nvidia-current then reboot [02:41] ok i will do Thank you! [02:42] DaSinge: and in between run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig [02:42] ' [02:42] wow he doesnt listen... i told him to PASTEBIN it >.> [02:43] hi i downloaded openbox on my ubuntu gnome but how can i browse the files -_- [02:43] http://pastebin.com/K40dcRNv [02:43] revcld: openbox, the window manager? [02:43] wow i didnt know you could get excess flood boot in pm? lol.. sorry, theres the link [02:43] revcld, you selected what a t login window [02:43] Thank for your guys help(the bast)!! [02:43] best [02:43] Openbox session === leolaurel is now known as leo [02:44] can anyone help with an swftools install? === leo is now known as leolaurel [02:45] i've tried following every example out there [02:45] rrgrzcool, from where [02:45] rrgrzcool, further, why do you need it [02:46] hi bazhang, i'm trying to install it local on an ubuntu vm [02:46] and i'm using gfx to convert pdfs to images [02:46] rrgrzcool: the question was, _from_ where, not _to_ where.. [02:47] how to cloak IP address in freenode? [02:47] from local to local... i'm from nyc if that's what you're asking [02:47] asdfasdfa, #freenode or google. [02:47] asdjaputra, /join #freenode [02:47] !register | asdjaputra [02:47] asdjaputra: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [02:47] asdfasdfa, sorry for the notify, close usernames. [02:47] magn3ts: the answer was #freenode. Please don't tell people to google it. [02:47] asdjaputra, register then ask for a cloak in #freenode [02:48] !cloak | asdjaputra [02:48] asdjaputra: Want to hide your IP while connected to freenode? See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks - More information available in #freenode [02:48] jesus christ. Googling it would probably be faster than going to #freenode, asking, and waiting for the response [02:48] i did register my nickname, and i did ask for a cloak, but they didn't answer [02:48] rrgrzcool: no, I'm asking where you got it from and in what form/format [02:48] everyone is rules crazy tonight. Instead we've had three factoids and 5 messages on the topic now. [02:48] magn3ts: you are free to start your own channel without rules. [02:48] magn3ts: thats every day all day and all night [02:48] hi, I just upgraded 11.04 from the default video drivers to nvidia and the screen is now blank (+ cursor) after it boots... any ideas? [02:48] What rule does that violate other than IdleOne's nitpicking? [02:49] !google [02:49] While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [02:49] IdleOne: is top of the list for analness [02:49] just my two bits ;) [02:49] sigh, I suppose there's a factoid. [02:49] szal: oh okay. well, i've tried from their own site, wget, git... they are tar.gz [02:49] check the logs and you will see pattern repeat itself .... [02:49] factiod? [02:49] allowoverride, I wasn't interested in personal attacks, I've just had 3/3 conversations turn meta in the 15 minutes I've been here. [02:50] oh im into personal attacks when they materialize [02:50] DaSinge: its the things ubottu spits when we trigger her [02:51] anyone recommend a better image viewer? [02:51] oh ok thkx [02:51] lahwran: imagemagick [02:51] lahwran, better than what [02:51] default 10.10 [02:51] which is eyeofgnome iirc [02:51] #ubuntu-bots lahwran, and ask BestBot [02:51] lahwran: better how? quicker, smaller, more featured? [02:51] more featured [02:51] lahwran, the image viewer works well [02:52] use feh for image viewing. [02:52] lahwran: imagemagick has all the transform power in imagemagick, depends what features you need [02:52] p_res: nice [02:52] !pm | rr [02:52] rr: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [02:52] lahwran, more featured, as in what features [02:52] erm, @ rrgrzcool, I meant [02:52] it's all i use. ;-) [02:53] @szal ahh this? [02:53] p_res, its lightweight, not more-featured [02:53] what features required? [02:53] lahwran, dragon? [02:54] anyfoo,,, [02:54] back to my issue [02:54] lahwran, oops i meant gwenview [02:54] allowoverride, yes? [02:54] allowoverride demands! we have to obey [02:54] i dont like you bazhang, just a heads up. [02:54] and i havent even talked to you befre [02:54] lol [02:54] allowoverride, just follow the channel guidelines [02:55] sigh... can anyone help with swftools? this is driving me insane for days [02:55] bazhang: we should meet up sometime and talk shop, i think you will differ your pre-disposed opinions [02:55] what dell type you have anyway, allowoverride [02:55] rrgrzcool, to edit pdf or extract pdf images to images [02:56] asdjaputra: xps, its a dual nic/bluetooth trust me [02:56] k [02:56] onboard [02:56] my bluetooth on vostro 1400 works fine [02:56] can you tell me the bluetooth model? [02:57] oh ya and what about waireless drivers does ubuntu support that? [02:57] wireless" [02:57] DaSinge, yes [02:57] rrgrzcool, in channel please, thanks [02:57] sorry, i'm here [02:57] DaSinge, including proprietary ones, if you enable restricted extras [02:58] asdjaputra: i do NOT have your laptop [02:58] DaSinge: depends on the wireless chip [02:58] lsusb shows? [02:58] so yeah, i've installed it before, on other servers 0.9.1 [02:58] what is crond [02:58] asdjaputra: i also do not have your OS most likely. there is much much more to it than comparing it to another disparent system [02:58] mrdeb, the cron daemon? [02:59] not to mention, it used to work, prior to numerous kernel upgrades i know i should do until like months later [02:59] yes [02:59] do you need it [02:59] allowoverride: what OS are you running? [02:59] when i boot i am dropped into a grub prompt, rather than a menu or booting into my OS [02:59] mrdeb, to do what; what is your exact issue [02:59] can anyone tell me how i can get this corrected? [03:00] I have a Atheros AR5B95 Wireless Network adapter [03:00] 10.10 mav [03:00] ironfroggy: I'd boot to live CD and reinstall grub2 there [03:00] IdleOne: 10.10 maverick [03:00] DaSinge, thats supported, yes [03:00] DaSinge, that's universally (i think) works [03:00] ironfroggy, do you get an error message? [03:00] ActionParsnip: ive run grub-install on the device [03:00] magn3ts: no [03:00] woah...thz [03:00] Thank you to whoever suggested the firmware update. Got my mp3 player back up and running after more than a year. Thanks. [03:01] !jockey [03:01] !grub | magn3ts [03:01] magn3ts, please see my private message [03:01] allowoverride, not again supported [03:01] IdleOne: im thinkin the additional drivers or Networkmanager has something to do with it [03:01] asdjaputra: ? huh [03:01] actionparsnip: after install it wanted to reboot and wouldnt let me try the os so now what do i do? every time it boots with the same graphics driver error. [03:01] ironfroggy, the !grub factoid can give you reinstall instructions, you may have run grub-install incorrectly, etc. [03:01] asdjaputra: what are you refering too? that totally confused my linux mind... [03:01] !grub [03:01] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [03:02] allowoverride, nm [03:02] linux_is_my_hero: you'll need to edit the boot options for the liveCD to add the nomodeset [03:02] IdleOne: let me know your thoughts, i know you have a clue about these matters. [03:02] ill bbiab [03:02] magn3ts: that is what i have already done, in fact. [03:02] pm me if you like [03:02] also is it possiable that a file got corrupt when downloading ubuntu [03:03] ironfroggy, are you in a multi-drive scenario? [03:03] i was [03:03] i am trying to remove an old drive and only use one [03:03] DaSinge, yes [03:03] actionparsnip: how do i do that? [03:03] DaSinge: Always possible. Check the md5sum. [03:03] !bootoptions | linux_is_my_hero [03:03] which is why i'm tring to boot on the MBR of the remaining drive [03:03] linux_is_my_hero: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset. [03:03] md5sum? [03:03] ironfroggy, it's possible that grub is installing on the wrong drive or that its not finding /boot properly, etc. [03:03] DaSinge, i meant the ubuntu ISO got corrupt [03:03] !nomodeset | linux_is_my_hero [03:03] linux_is_my_hero, please see my private message [03:04] magn3ts: i have removed the other drive. right now there is only one. [03:04] yes like a file in the ISO [03:04] DaSinge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM [03:04] !hashes | DaSinge [03:04] DaSinge: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. [03:04] hi guys! [03:04] actionparsnip: it won't boot to ubuntu, so how do i edit files? [03:04] ironfroggy, you removed the drive before executing these steps? I think those steps should regenerate the grub configuration files, you may need to do that... do you have a /boot on the remaining drive? [03:05] rak85: hey :-) [03:05] hi [03:05] allowoverride: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1101204 little old but may have some helpful hints [03:05] magn3ts: i do. i booted into the liveCD and i did the grub install on /dev/sda from there and yes i have /boot on the new disk [03:05] linux_is_my_hero: you will need that link to edit it to get to the desktop, you can then edit the file and it will stick [03:05] IdleOne: thanks for researching, ill chk it out... [03:05] it seems like i have grub installed but it has no menu/list of kernels to boot [03:06] so it just dumps me to its prompt [03:06] ironfroggy: you are using grub2 which uses config files and generates grub.cfg [03:06] ironfroggy, have you run update-grub2 ? you might give that a shot. [03:06] ActionParsnip, does it error without a proper grub.cfg though? or does it maybe drop him at this empty prompt? [03:07] i will try that [03:07] Q: How can I tell if my laptop's built-in card reader is working and/or mount it when I put a card in? I checked dmesg and didnt see anything obvious but I am not sure what to look for. [03:07] magn3ts: yes it will error as there is no config to read [03:07] ironfroggy, according to what ActionParsnip, I don't think that will probably fix it, but it shouldn't hurt either. [03:08] actionparsnip: i see: :-) [03:08] o [03:08] actionparsnip: much appreciated. 10.10 is way faster than 11.04 and ive been meaning to do this but havent had the time until NOW. :-) [03:08] how would i go about resetting the menu list for grub? [03:08] i am thinking that is what i need [03:09] ironfroggy, that command "should automatically detect the drives and configure grub appropriately". [03:09] but how / where does it find the kernels? [03:09] In what regard is 10.10 faster than natty? [03:09] ironfroggy, what do you mean? It scans for them presumably? [03:10] well its done that and it didnt find anything. i am trying to figure out how to do it myself [03:10] linux_is_my_hero: depends on config with regards to speed. My 11.04 LXDE based system boots and runs faster than my laptop which has a lot more grunt running gnome [03:10] linux_is_my_hero: the statement is none-sensical [03:11] just so everyone knows: upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 doesn't fix a vt6410 [03:11] whats the command to show bios info in cmdline? i forgot... thanks [03:11] yeah i would think 11.04 would be faster on my machine. but it wasnt. [03:11] linux_is_my_hero: not necessarily true that newer = faster [03:11] and linux is magically safer because it doesn't have "holes". [03:11] action parsnip: my desktop is faster with 10.10, my laptop won't run 11.04, and my tablet seems to like 11.04 better than 10.10 [03:12] dmicode? [03:12] lshw? i forgot i swear === bitchx is now known as awea- [03:12] actionparsnip: do i add "nomodeset" inside the same quotes as "quiet splash," or on its own command line function? [03:12] linux_is_my_hero: all depends on config. I bet if you install a lighter DE it will run faster tnan Maverick [03:12] linux_is_my_hero: yes inside the quotes [03:13] what's a "DE"? [03:13] desktop environment [03:13] found it, sudo dmidecode |grep -i smbios [03:13] is that the same as a "GUI"? [03:13] linux_is_my_hero, it consists the GUi you use [03:13] linux_is_my_hero: lxde uses a hell of a lot less resources than gnome and compiz, making it faster [03:13] linux_is_my_hero: the release is still Natty [03:14] I'm having a graphics issue with Ubuntu 11.04 on a Dell Inspiron 8600 (graphics card: AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 9000). [03:14] It boots off the install disk without any problem whatsoever, but when I try to run off the computer itself after (successfully) installing, it hangs on the desktop, with windows flashing up occasionally for fractions of a second. If I press ctrl+alt+f7, it gets me into a distorted shell (garbage characters.) [03:14] I just rebooted, and now am greeted with an all-white screen with black text on it that looks vaguely like emoticons. [03:14] What can I do to resolve this problem? [03:15] actionparsnip: im interested :-) [03:15] ActionParsnip, though it looks like Vista [03:16] anyone ever use ubuntu on an arm7? [03:16] asdjaputra: what does? [03:16] ActionParsnip, lxde [03:16] the panel, the folder icons [03:16] etc. [03:16] well im having probs getting build-essential [03:16] asdjaputra: depends on theme [03:16] actionparsnip: why is linux telling me grub is read-only? [03:16] looks more like windows 98 than vista. [03:16] armelTest, try #ubuntu-arm [03:16] linux_is_my_hero: you need to run: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub [03:16] linux_is_my_hero: the file is owned by root [03:16] armelTest: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM [03:17] ok thx [03:17] asdjaputra: what, because it's at the bottom? [03:17] interesting findings on http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43, there is reference to: Bluetooth coexistence protection, if the bluetooth card is physically connected to the wireless chip. (Does not protect against external BT dongles) [03:17] ActionParsnip, no, the color of the panel is black and light black, sorta resembles Vista [03:17] asdjaputra: depensd on theme. I kill off lxpanel ond run unity2d. It's still lxde, looks like most people's natty install ;) [03:17] which means, this BC w/nic is bluetooth'd. [03:18] ActionParsnip, ah [03:18] actionparsnip: ah, Gedit. [03:18] that would explain the network error before desktop is up fully. i still need to get bluez to run and the light on dell laptop will not light up unless the kernel doesnt see it [03:19] asdjaputra: http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/MyScreenshot3.png?t=1276984007 that's my Lucid LXDE system from back in the day [03:19] Does anybody know if rhythmbox is still in active development? [03:19] asdjaputra: running wbar :) [03:20] wow bar [03:20] laugh out loud [03:20] since lol isn't allowed [03:20] !ot [03:20] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:20] roasted, not certain, seems to completely dropped from 11.10 though, in favor of banshee [03:21] asdjaputra: nothing like windows :) [03:21] actionparsnip: looks good :-) [03:21] actionparsnip: once i edit grub i can just restart, right? [03:21] roasted: I can recommend deadbeef :) [03:21] linux_is_my_hero: as long as you run: sudo update-grub first [03:22] hi i cant seem to copy a folder into A game iit says permission deined any ideas [03:22] billy2007, what game, what command [03:22] darn i wish i could write my own drivers.... [03:22] billy2007: run: gksudo nautilus [03:22] actionparsnip: well so far so good :-) how do i change from gnome to lxde? [03:22] Update: A second reboot got me to see the desktop, though ctrl+alt+f7 now gets me to the garbled emoticon-like screen. Pressing ctrl+alt+f1 then brought me to a screen with just one small pixellated block of the desktop and a cursor. [03:23] ActionParsnip: what desktop is that? kde? flux? [03:24] might be gnome? [03:24] its his lxde machine [03:24] allowoverride: LXDE + openbox [03:24] nice [03:24] using NetworkManager ic lol [03:24] I worry that people choose DE and window mangers based on screenshots rather than featuers and taking the time to learn how to install a font pack... [03:25] anyone know why, suddenly, unless I desable CSF I cannot FTP to my webserver [03:25] allowoverride: its was there, i use wicd now [03:25] i used to use wicd and switched back to NM dont ask lol [03:26] actually now that i think about it, that is what i used last, when the BCom w/nic i have used to work with bluetooth. i might just do that... [03:26] bbiab [03:27] hi guys! i want to run xhydra but i cant!do you know a way to do this? [03:27] I've only ever found wicd to be helpful when dealing with overlapping wifi spots with the same essid... because NM isn't smart enough to pick the one with the highest strength for some reason (makes sense, it remembers via bssid instead) [03:27] ok no one was up in -arm. this maybe a simple question... can anyone tell me what this means [03:27] Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another sourceE: Package build-essential has no installation candidate [03:27] yes build essential has mysteriously disappeared [03:28] lol thats what i thought!! [03:28] how does that happen? [03:29] most likely bill Gates [03:29] actionparsnip: thanks for your help :-) [03:29] lol bg = bill gates = bubble guts [03:31] for example, there's no reason you can't have this within gnome: http://k.min.us/iemoIQ.png [03:31] http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/build-essential [03:31] magn3ts: to have what? [03:31] something that doesn't look like stock unity. [03:31] ActionParsnip: It should be in the repos I have noticed it missing at least for a week I think. [03:32] just based on the "oooh vista folders" and then "I want LXDE" comments... I get all :S [03:32] Tigerboy: try: sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy build-essential [03:32] magn3ts: the OS is flexible so it can have what the user wishes [03:32] actually, do other DE's have support (even community support) for app-indicators? I've come to quite like them. It's such a nice fix for gnome-applets. [03:33] ActionParsnip, oh sure, I just don't think everyone gets that. And instead of chaning icons, they rush to a DE that has a default icon set they like. [03:33] ActionParsnip, deadbeef... as in, a media management application??? [03:35] ladies. [03:35] Who wants to see me penis. [03:35] ? [03:36] My name is terrence urich [03:36] be gone [03:37] hello [03:37] i need ERwin like app [03:37] i need to open *.erwin file [03:37] hi guys! i want to run xhydra but i cant!do you know a way to do this? [03:37] or er1 file [03:37] roasted: yeah its nice [03:37] larie, that doesn't seem very likely. [03:37] The strange thing is that I can run the install, boot off the live cd, and use the live cd without graphics issues at all. [03:38] magn3ts: what likely? :) [03:38] ActionParsnip: that would work if it was saved on my system but I've had a couple rough starts as I try to get this one laptop up with 11.04... Hopefully buildessentials will reapear soon... heck Ill find it on the net. [03:38] armor-64: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get -y nstall pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release [03:38] larie, I don't think you're going to find linux software that will read proprietary files. [03:38] magn3ts: i see [03:38] larie, there are alternatives to erwin, but not nearly as professional, and like I said, they won't read erwin files. [03:38] before i try wicd, what is the dpkg method to install from cmdline - NetworkManager back, since I wont be able to use wireless if i disable/uninstall NM to use Wicd and return. thanks! [03:38] Could there be a driver problem, or something? Based on the fact that the system displays the graphics fine off the cd, it seems weird that it would fail when not on the cd. [03:39] ActionParsnip, it seems very simple. does it do playlist syncing to ipods and such? [03:39] magn3ts: $(file 1.erwin) shows me -> "data" [03:39] larie, you are talking about the UML/diagramming software erwin right? [03:39] thank goodness for chats [03:39] that dont suck [03:39] roasted: no idea, i don't use apples garbage. my sense outstrips my wallet [03:39] sorry guys/gals i come from freebsd and redhat/centos lol [03:39] larie, I'm just guessing, it may be reversable or human readable, but I doubt anyone's done it. [03:39] magn3ts: idk :) guy from my office wants to open ERwin file [03:39] just a quick one liner, that would help [03:39] ActionParsnip, you and me both. I'm just trying to get acquianted with more media players since I have a few friends who might switch to linux IF they can find something to suit their ipod needs :P [03:39] larie, when I see something like erwin's website... I immediately think VirtualBox+Windows until you can get away from that application, if that's even possible. [03:40] some cmd i can use that will not ask the net for info to load a prog/util locally [03:40] ActionParsnip, just trying to get more well educated on which apps I can recommend them. [03:40] magn3ts: he can't open it on windows7 but he has ubuntu on laptop [03:40] roasted, android phone + amazon clouddrive = bliss. [03:40] magn3ts: what apps are similar to ERwin? [03:40] roasted: i'd either check its feature list, or just install it and test :) [03:40] before i try wicd, what is the dpkg method to install from cmdline - NetworkManager back, since I wont be able to use wireless if i disable/uninstall NM to use Wicd and return. just a quick one liner, that would help, some cmd i can use that will not ask the net for info to load a prog/util locally [03:40] larie: what is ERwin? [03:40] larie, DBDesigner, uh, honestly I don't remember the others. [03:40] here:E: Invalid operation nstall [03:40] The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit [03:40] ActionParsnip, data modeling. [03:41] ActionParsnip: idk [03:41] armor-64, follow the instructions, you typed "install" as "nstall" . [03:41] magn3ts: thx! is that app the best? :p [03:41] does dpkg always go to the net to load a prog/util? where does it store package info? what dir? [03:41] allowoverride: you could tell apt-get to download the debs. You can always add the install CD as a repo and install network manager from there [03:41] larie, no clue, I ended up using paint as it was just a homework assignment. [03:41] it's working,whana install it? [03:42] larie, honestly dbdesigner just happened to show up on a random search for "erwin files ubuntu". [03:42] Are there differences in hardware requirements for the live CD versus running from an install? [03:42] ActionParsnip: ic. but i did an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.10 from the net. so your saying i could burn a cd of 10.10 and load it locally and add to sources/repo? [03:42] Jordan_U: you awake yet? [03:42] joshz, possibly but I don't think so, what are you worried about? [03:42] ActionParsnip: where does dpkg info store the prog/utils it has installed? what dir? [03:42] magn3ts: hehe ;) [03:42] Well, the graphics work fine on the live CD, but I don't get anything beyond the desktop or occasional windows that flash up when I complete the install and boot off the laptop. [03:42] Why do people insist on installing years old versions of ubuntu and then upgrading them in place when a 15 minute download would let them have a clean install? [03:43] (Ubuntu 11.04) [03:43] ActionParsnip: what cmd can i use to download debs to a local dir? so i can just install from there? [03:43] so many ways to install a prog with ubuntu... sighs... [03:43] joshz, oh right, I saw you before. It sounds like a compiz/graphics problem, maybe specific to unity+your graphics card. [03:43] Dell Inspiron 8600, AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 9000) [03:43] * joshz nods [03:43] Do you have any ideas for how I could fix it? [03:43] like apt-get and aptitude,, come on ubuntu devs, make up your minds! [03:43] my download is taking forever:/ [03:43] joshz, try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to tty, login, then do `compiz --replace` (two dashes) and then switch back to CTRL+ALT+F7 and see if it's any better [03:44] joshz, or at the gdm login screen, try "Ubuntu Classic" as the desktop to use. [03:44] Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't do anything [03:44] And I don't get the login screen. [03:44] joshz, oh :/ [03:44] Nothing comes up at all. [03:44] joshz, over my head then. [03:44] ctrl+alt+f7 does something [03:44] allowoverride, usually they do different things... [03:44] ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get source networkmanager will load to cur dir, correct? [03:44] Brings up a strange black-on white screen [03:44] things that look like emoticons. [03:44] joshz, you ought to be on that tty already anyway... :/ sounds pretty goofy. [03:45] ":(" ":<", ":)"... [03:45] ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get -d networkmanager will load to cur dir, correct? [03:45] allowoverride: read: man apt-get [03:45] typing brings up different emoticons. [03:45] joshz, no readable text though? [03:45] thats what im doing,, [03:45] Nope. [03:45] I did compiz --replace and hit enter [03:45] just cuz someone reads something, doesnt mean they understand it all... my god [03:45] No noticeable change. [03:45] sometimes man pages are all over the map, you know that [03:45] joshz, well that was my mistake, I meant to have you do `metacity --replace` but if you haven't even logged in, something else is messed up. [03:46] No, it's set to auto-login, I think [03:46] joshz, what kind of graphics card? Did you notice, did you have shadows during the installer? [03:46] AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 [03:46] joshz, ack, auto-login is the bane of my existence with graphics problems. [03:46] Umm...not sure. [03:46] Really? [03:46] actionparsnip: if my internet is fast on other computers, and my wireless is strong on the problem computer, why would internet be slow? [03:47] Should I try to reinstall and not do auto-login? [03:47] joshz, yeah, if it's compiz related, you don't get a chance to not use it :S at least if it gets this bad. [03:47] can someone ELSE give me a one liner for downloading NetworkManager so i can use it after i HAVE no wireless connection..... thanks [03:47] fsck [03:47] joshz, I'm trying to see if there's an easy way for you to disable it without a full reinstall. [03:47] I have no problem with tha. [03:47] *that. [03:47] It was a fresh install anyway. [03:47] if i want to export my xorg.conf file on ubuntu to use on another computer, only problem is there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf can i create one? [03:47] !enter | joshz [03:47] joshz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [03:47] allowoverride, what? Just go download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and then dpkg - i it. [03:48] ubottu: blondes or brunettes? [03:48] linux_is_my_hero: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [03:48] thanks, that helps much more than man this or that.. thanks dude [03:48] joshz, well you can wait for better advice or give it a shot I suppose. Additionally, if you get that working, remember, try the "Ubuntu Classic". [03:49] finnaly the download is done! [03:49] magn3ts: I'd choose that at the login screen? [03:49] finally [03:50] Can anyone familiar with linux administration answer these questions? http://pastebin.com/bDx2zTy8 [03:50] joshz, yes. You click your username and then options pop up, beside Session: will be a drop down box and "Ubuntu Classic" should be a choice. That will give you compiz, but no Unity. If that fails again, try the Fallback session. [03:50] joshz: if you have user access set to 'no password' you won't see this screen [03:51] magn3ts: Okay. I'll try that if I can after the next install. I'll also let you know about the shadows. [03:51] is strongswan-nm (4.4.0-2ubuntu1) [universe] strongSwan plugin to interact with NetworkManager what i need? [03:51] bridean, it sounds like you're conflating issues of "internet" vs "intranet". I don't know what it means to have a password to the network as you outline it. [03:51] as listed on http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/net/ [03:51] bridean: you won't need to "disable wine", its not a default app. Just don't install it. If you keep your users as users and not in the admin group most of this be managed for you [03:51] is the new dual core atom cpu that shows up as 4 cpus good for linux [03:51] bridean, I doubt that keyboards and mice have completely unique identifiers. [03:51] bridean: C compiling is available, you will just need to install the compiler [03:52] bridean, you could write said program. Forcing them to enter the information requires knowing how to hook it into the login process, not hard, but something to keep in mind. [03:52] bridean: you will need a proxy server to filter sites as well as log access [03:52] bridean, if you install the C compiler, even "guest" users will be able to use it. [03:52] magn3ts, The wi-fi has internet access, but to use it you have to set the gateway IP, subnet IP, and so forth [03:53] magn3ts: I see a faint shadow around the cursor, I think. [03:53] bridean, out of the box, they'll be able to bring in executables on jump drives, but you can disable external media, again, if you know how. [03:53] actually its not! i do not see networkmanager on packages.whatever magn3ts. please make sure you post something i can use... [03:53] joshz, ok. Hm. [03:53] allowoverride, pffft. [03:53] There shouldn't be a problem with downloading updates or third-party software, should there? [03:53] allowoverride, I'll make sure and do that next time you yell in caps. [03:53] magn3ts, So I can't for example, install Netbeans java compiler and only allow certain users access to it? [03:54] joshz, shouldn't but I had problems with it during betas :S take that for what you will. [03:54] how come files in missing in /usr/local/etc? [03:54] bridean, that's past the extent of my knowledge. I believe there are ways you can control who has access to what executables, maybe with groups? ActionParsnip might be able to chime in. [03:54] my bad, magn3ts im not in a good mood [03:55] magn3ts, If the executables are Windows executables and wine isn't installed, wouldn't they not be able to use them? [03:55] bridean, correct, I meant linux executables. [03:55] allowoverride, isn't this roughly what you're looking for: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/network-manager-gnome [03:55] magn3ts, I don't know if the students are smart enough to create linux executables for hacking. [03:56] allowoverride, that page also includes a link at the bottom for network-manager. [03:56] thanks, appreciated [03:56] bridean, I would make the same assumption though I would've been able to had I desired. :P It's probably a safe assumption in my opinion. [03:56] magn3ts, I suspect they get Windows executables from people who make them available. [03:56] bridean, I would suspect the same, yes. [03:56] magn3ts: thats a lot of deps ! wow [03:56] bridean: a2) wine is not installed by default and thus, you do not need to 'disable it' b1) Users only need user access. On ubuntu, the root account is disabled by default. b2) You can configure individual use permissions on linux c1) Configure it as such c2) likewise c3) likewise c4) You can access users history c5) Doable at your own skills limitations Alt) Check the hardware device id's [03:57] magn3ts, The thing is, these are Koreans. Koreans are so group oriented (no original thought) that pretty much everybody just uses Windows [03:57] if you want an immutable log though, you'll need to do it at the network level. [03:58] Would there be any problem just going with the standard swap partition size, magn3ts? [03:58] soreau, would they have unique ids even from the same batch of KBs? I don't know how detailed things are at the usb level, just curious. [03:58] sorry again how to chack md5sums? [03:58] check [03:58] k im gonna give wicd a try to fix this bluetooth combo w/nic issue im having, wish me luck. bbiab with my findings... l8 [03:58] !md5 | DaSinge [03:58] DaSinge: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [03:58] magn3ts: It might be a more advanced situation, indeed [03:58] !hashes | DaSinge [03:58] magn3ts, A few questions then 1) Does it make sense to switch to linux? 2) If I do switch, would a different security model be better than the one I am thinking of? [03:58] DaSinge: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of Ubuntu discs. [03:59] bridean, I don't know what all your users need to be able to use or what Windows software they might miss, but I guess. [03:59] bridean: Finally, you might ask this in a channel that is more specific to linux since these queries are not specific to ubuntu (such as ##linux) [03:59] bridean, with proper tools, especially newer versions of Windows can be pretty securely locked down. [04:00] Well, Ubuntu would be the linux distro I would choose if I install it [04:01] bridean, this is getting a bit offtopic, you should check the help, wiki and manual [04:01] !manual | bridean [04:01] bridean: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [04:01] magn3ts: Please stick with the topic by not suggesting other OS's features [04:01] !wiki > bridean [04:01] bridean, please see my private message [04:02] bridean, this is a channel for those troubleshooting actual install, ie , not whether to choose ubuntu or not [04:02] I can't take it anymore. [04:02] magn3ts, take what [04:02] as if I'm dumb enough to answer that [04:03] magn3ts, not sure what you're talking about === B0g4r7_ is now known as B0g4r7 [04:04] hi from cuba [04:04] hi, sorry to hear that. [04:04] dev1ced, hi, ubuntu support question? [04:04] godofmischief, thats not nice [04:04] welcome, dev1ced [04:04] bazhang: i was just playing =) [04:05] godofmischief, uncalled for, just move on [04:10] does anyone know of a http/ftp download manager for ubuntu that has a web ui. like how transmission or sabnzbd works where you just copy link of torrent or nzb to start a download? [04:11] Why is in Natty pre-installed Brasero but not sound-juicer? [04:12] ok, got wicd up no prob, just unchecked NM options. back to my original issue, bluetooth not working... brb [04:12] bullgard4, they serve different functions, one is to get mp3 from a cd, one is to burn cd [04:12] bullgard4: Because Brasero is installed by default and sound-juicer isn't [04:13] soreau: My question is why is Brasero installed by default and sound-juicer is not. [04:13] i have bluez loaded,,, what should i use,,,, sudo bluetooth start, sudo service bluetooth start, or something else? how confusing.... [04:14] bullgard4, they serve different functions, they are not analogous [04:14] ... [04:14] bullgard4: Because that is just the way it is. That's like asking why drivers are installed by default but no 3D games are [04:14] soreau: pretty sour answer lol.. [04:14] does anyone know of a http/ftp download manager for ubuntu that has a web ui. like how transmission or sabnzbd works where you just copy link of torrent or nzb to start a download? [04:14] aka sorry answer [04:15] allowoverride: sour questions get sour answers [04:15] s/sour/sorry [04:15] doesn't really make a difference [04:15] bazhang, soreau Thank you very much for your answers. [04:15] Sound Juicer probably isn't installed because, in some countries, things like ripping CDs may be illegal [04:15] misunderstood questions get sour answers too it seems in here [04:15] bullgard4, welcome [04:15] allowoverride, lets move on please [04:15] hi how do I launch openoffice from the command line? [04:15] ok bazhang back to my issue, scroll up, its right there :) [04:16] used to be ooffice or soffice [04:16] alesan, use the name of the program, what version of ubuntu by the way [04:16] unless of course you dont know what i should do,, then please, someone else do jump right in ;) i appreciate real help [04:16] bazhang, yes, what is the "name of the program?" [04:16] bazhang, ubuntu 11.04 [04:16] alesan, libreoffice is in 11.04 for example, thus my asking version of ubuntu [04:16] sudo service bluetooth status bluetooth is NOT running, which should i use, see above [04:17] before i do anything i want the right sequence of what to do next,,, im tired of all these diff ways to do the same thing [04:17] bazhang, can I get the rgular openoffice instead of "libreoffice" that sounds south-american? [04:17] alesan: libreoffice is the BOMB, use that for sure, forget the openoffice term [04:17] ok [04:17] allowoverride, libreoffice works from the command line [04:18] thanks [04:18] seriously, it really is 10x more and eye appealing [04:19] alesan: yadda, no one does cmdline stuff for documents anymore lol [04:19] except gedit from control - F2 [04:19] lol [04:20] alesan: a lot of what you see in the GUI works from cmdline, just a heads up ;) [04:20] like 90% [04:20] hey guys. my super button has packed in. pressing it or any other super-based button combos does nothing at all. i'm running ubuntu 11.04. where should i go from here? i don't really want to do a full reinstall [04:20] allowoverride, what are you talking about? [04:21] Will123456, what does "packed in" mean? [04:21] I wanted to configure thunderbird to use the correct application when I open a .doc file [04:21] and I need to specify the binary used to open such MIME type [04:21] thanks anyway [04:21] bye [04:21] magn3ts: i press it and nothing happens. i remember someone else having a similar problem, and someone recommended running a program that registered and printed back button press events. every button worked except for super. [04:21] alesan, trust me, you're better off ignoring him. [04:21] alesan, hold on. [04:22] magn3ts, well but he kind of helped me to find the solution [04:22] "libreoffice" is the name of the command I need to call [04:22] alesan, which office app do you want it to open in [04:22] alesan, for example Writer would be: `` libreoffice -writer %U `` [04:22] why would a fresh install of ubuntu have rediculously slow internet when it was fine before i reinstalled ubuntu? [04:22] the one that is associated with the particular file [04:23] well if I have a .doc it should be smart enought to use the writer thing [04:23] alesan, lol it's making you match mime-types with programs, expecting it to be smart is asking a bit much. [04:23] linux_is_my_hero: dodgy wireless drivers? have you made sure you're fully upgraded [04:23] yeah im upgrading right now...relaly wish i had a 40 foot ethernet cable [04:23] alesan, throwing random files at `libreoffice` may work. If it does, good for you I suppose :P [04:24] magn3ts, once I assign .doc to "libreoffice" then it opens writer, that's how it works [04:24] is there a chat for mint linux..... <-------noob [04:24] linux_is_my_hero: i've got one :) they're great [04:24] will123456: upgrading right now...really wish i had a 40 foot network cable [04:24] alesan, okay, they must have built that in, sounds like you've got it then. [04:24] magn3ts, it always worked with StarOffice and also Openoffice [04:24] i paid good money for this wifi card, im gunna find a way to make it work :-) [04:24] I remember when you had to download a binary tarball from staroffice.de with a modem 56MB it took all night [04:24] alesan, I see, sounds good. [04:24] :) [04:24] mARCUs: irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint.com [04:25] though that might be out of date [04:25] bye!!! thanks guys [04:25] thanks Will [04:25] mARCUs: make sure you check linuxmint.com too [04:25] ok :) [04:26] linux_is_my_hero: What card is it? [04:26] i dont know i had it working just fine with other versions of linux and now its running slow [04:27] remind me again how i check my hardware without taking my case apart [04:27] linux_is_my_hero: lspci|grep Network [04:27] mARCUs: do bear in mind there won't be a huge lot of difference between mint and ubuntu, and there will be a lot more ubuntu users around than mint. but also bear in mind that ubuntu users offering you support are free to tell you to piss off because you're not using pure ubuntu :P [04:28] RaLink RT2800 802.11n PCI [04:28] ! ralink | linux_is_my_hero [04:28] linux_is_my_hero: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [04:29] crap... I've just installed a new system, but I can't get my screen to work. I've had this problem before and it's only like this when it's not in X (allthough, I have no X at all atm)... [04:29] !nomodeset | Trasp [04:29] Trasp: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [04:29] If I remember correctly there's something I should change to the grub.cfg (or well, the scripts generating it) [04:29] kthx [04:30] :) [04:30] is there any way to install gvim telling it to use my compiled vim instalation? vim-gnome/vim-gtk breaks with command-t and I can't seem to find any way to fix this shit [04:31] !language | brenosalgado [04:31] brenosalgado: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [04:31] k sorry [04:31] ActionParsnip, This nomodeset you linked to seems to not affect grub, this also affects grub [04:32] how to change my keyboard layout on kubuntu [04:32] the q is a and the q is an a [04:33] a is a q [04:33] hello [04:34] adenicio: KDE: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout [04:34] is there any way I can make my netbook work or it's desktop work i mean , like a regular desktop without the weird launch thingy ? and the top and bottom bars ?. [04:35] localg0d: choose "classic" when logging in at the bottom [04:35] Trasp: that doesn't sound good, is the ram ok? [04:35] hmm [04:35] brb [04:35] Yes it is, obviously it's a common problem with natty, I've had it on another machine [04:35] tis dead .......tis dead indeed :( oh shmell moving on [04:36] both of them were installed with alternative cd [04:36] I've found a thread with a bunch of other people having the problem but can't find it right now... === derp is now known as derp|gone [04:36] my little brother's wubi xubuntu install broke epicly during a dist-upgrade... rather than fix it, we decided to uninstall it and start over [04:37] I'll try to look through the grub configs again and see if I can find what it was... [04:37] the uninstall worked fine, but now wubi.exe is telling me "Could not download the metalink and therefor the ISO" [04:37] therefore* [04:38] BitWraith: a workaround would be to download the iso yourself manually and putting it in the same directory as wubi.exe, then starting wubi.exe [04:38] Has the Ubuntu team ever considered suggesting a separate partition for /home [04:38] I feel it would make a lot of support issues easier. [04:39] is Ubuntu capable of doing HDMI from the computer to HDMI on the TV with full quality of picture? [04:39] theres no keyboard option to change in regional language [04:39] somethinginteres: yes [04:40] magn3ts: it's got a lot of advantages but also requires end users having to know about partitioning and make decisions about how much space to dedicate to which partition, which raises lots of problems in of itself. i would never go without a seperate /home partition myself [04:40] Will123456, yeah, I suppose so. [04:40] ActionParsnip: Thanks for that, had a friend who was curious about doing that. [04:41] how to change my keyboard layout on kubuntu [04:41] theres no keyboard option to change in regional language [04:41] magn3ts: they did once for hoary (5.04) release, then no more option afterward [04:42] magn3ts: It worked! Thanks very much. I was able to get to the login screen and choose Ubuntu Classic, and can now use the machine. [04:43] you can make a bin folder in your home directory and put executables in there so that you can use them as commands right? [04:44] CppIsWeird: Sure, provided the executables have a suitable environment in which to run [04:44] joshz, wow, I'm shocked that worked, it really probably shouldn't have. [04:44] well i did that and it still says it cant find the command, do i need to reboot or something? [04:44] * joshz shrugs [04:44] joshz, well, it's not that it shouldn't have worked, but things shouldn't have been that messed up, it's surely a bug, but I'm not even sure where. [04:44] I'm not complaining. [04:44] they are set as executable [04:44] adenicio: SystemSettings>InputDevices>Keyboard>Layout-tab [04:45] joshz, yeah, I hear yah, glad it's working for you. [04:45] Was there anything else I had to do other than setting it to Ubuntu Classic and disabling auto-login? [04:45] . [04:45] CppIsWeird, from the terminal, type `echo $PATH` and see if your /home/CppIsWeird/bin shows up. [04:46] ActionParsnip, Well, I tried adding the nomodeset and now I have a blinking cursor instead, any ideas? (I can still log in through ssh) [04:46] hi guys, how can I fork a message into different terminal ? [04:46] joshz, I don't think so :S you do know you're not getting unity now though, you're getting the plain old gnome 2 interface... not that there's anything wrong with that. just so you're aware. [04:46] hmm, no, its not. [04:46] CppIsWeird: You need to specify the full path the the executable if the directory containing the executable file is not in your $PATH [04:47] CppIsWeird, that's weird, it's set to be in the default ubuntu bash_profile I believe. [04:47] CppIsWeird: and make sure it's +x executable [04:47] magn3ts: Yeah, I don't mind. This is just gonna be a simple computer to take on vacation and do whatever web browsing and photo backups we need. I don't need any fancy graphics. [04:47] im using xubuntu, i didnt figure a question as basic as this would matter about the version. [04:47] everything is +x [04:48] its a clean install, so its the default [04:48] CppIsWeird, for ~/bin to be in your path, it had to be present when you logged in. Did you just create the directory? [04:49] yes, so logout/in? [04:49] lighta: http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/76660-send-console-message-all-users-tty.html [04:49] CppIsWeird: try this: /home/CppIsWeird/bin/ [04:49] thanks :)D [04:49] IcemanV9, we already know the problem, it wasn't in his PATH for some reason. [04:49] ah thx ActionParsnip =) i'll check that [04:49] I've got a problem with my fresh install without X, i can't get no screen. I tried the nomodeset but all it did was to give me a blinking cursor instead, does anyone recognize this problem? [04:49] zykotick9, TIL. thanks. [04:50] zykotick9, fixed it, thanks :D [04:51] Trasp: what video chip you use? [04:51] ActionParsnip, Hm, I've got a 5970 [04:52] vt.handoff=7 [04:52] what's that for? [04:52] That command starts some bells in my head (grub.cfg, linux /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=a866a0ba-9838-4d6c-8796-917917a4c7cf ro quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=7) [04:52] tanks will123456 [04:53] ActionParsnip, "That creates seamless transition to the graphical login screen. Specifically, it makes the 7th virtual terminal come up automatically, so you don't see the console login prompt before X11 loads. This is a good thing. The problem is that this occurs even when X11 is not installed! " <- THink I've found it =) [04:53] switched to tty1 [04:54] works great since the nomodeset [04:54] :) [04:54] interesting, I didn't know that's how that worked. who decided that tty7 = X. [04:54] So you were right about that one [04:54] hey guys. do your window buttons (close, maximise, minimise) highlight in any way when you mouse over them? in ubuntu 11.04 [04:54] im running kubuntu but it doesnt detect nothing i plug in usb.i plug in the usb port a card reader but nothing shows saying it detects.from the start when i install kubuntu it said usb port disable or something [04:55] i'd appreciate someone quickly checking, because my own buttons don't seem to be doing anything and i could swear they normally do [04:56] Will123456: what theme? [04:56] wabznasm: the default. ambience, i think? [04:57] is there a way to get an ubuntu cd that will install with set paramaters with ssh on by default? I'd like to install onto a macbook that has a busted deisplay [04:57] wabznasm: does it highlight for you when hovering over the buttons? i'm getting nothing but i swear i used to get a little highlight animation [05:01] I think compiz is the buggiest piece of software I've ever used. Corner bindings randomly stop working. It's happened three times today already. [05:01] any help?kubuntu not detecting my usb conection.11.04 [05:01] seriously? none of the people i helped out today want to bother spending 10 seconds checking if their window buttons highlight on mouse hover for me? i'd get annoyed if i wasn't so handsome and witty and charming and so on [05:01] good night! [05:02] magn3ts: don't use it then [05:02] Will123456: i would but I'm ssh'd in from work, no can do [05:02] Will123456: mine don't do anything but i'm on 10.04 [05:02] It was more an indictment of the QA for natty than a criticism of compiz. I have better luck building from source on trunk or the 0.8.x releases. [05:02] ActionParsnip: fair enough - I actually thought a bunch of you would be in that situation :P === francisco is now known as Guest20448 [05:02] Will123456: plus I use openbox so I doubt its relevant to your (most likely) gnome desktop [05:03] i would help but im a beginner :( [05:03] extraclassic: hm - okay. maybe i was dreaming it all along then. thanks :) [05:03] Will123456, what do you mean highlight? [05:03] They get "lighter", yes. [05:03] magn3ts: log bugs to inform the devs [05:03] magn3ts: really? you see they don't for me. what a strange bug [05:04] I've worked with #compiz-dev to try to track down several bugs already, wasn't really my point. I don't really have a constructive point, I'll shut up about it. [05:04] Will123456, :S dunna what to tell you. it happens with active and inactive windows too. [05:04] magn3ts: i don't have trouble with compiz in gnome, but it's garbage for me in xfce [05:04] Will123456, of course assuming you're referring to the stock Ambiance theme [05:05] Will123456: does it happen as all users? [05:05] magn3ts: yep, absolutely stock. thanks for checking for me :) [05:05] no problem. [05:05] ActionParsnip: I actually didn't even think of testing that. i'll do it right now. thanks! [05:05] magn3ts: What can I say. Canonical did not hire me :P [05:05] magn3ts: The current stable release of compiz is 0.8 [05:06] Will123456: try thinking instead of the snappy remark earlier ;) [05:06] ActionParsnip: duly noted - i'm already feeling ashamed :P === GateKeeper is now known as Guest34209 [05:07] any help?kubuntu not detecting my usb conection. [05:07] Will123456: its cool :D [05:07] soreau, I should have chosen my wording more precisely, you're right. [05:07] magn3ts: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/compiz-adds-natty-ppa/ [05:07] adenicio, uh what sort of usb connection? [05:07] magn3ts: try 0.9 at your own risk. May help [05:07] ActionParsnip: Tell that to ubuntu devs :P [05:08] ActionParsnip, lol no... ubuntu ships with 0.9 [05:08] yes [05:08] any device i conects to usb it doesnt detects magn3ts: [05:08] ActionParsnip, that's the problem... [05:08] magn3ts: looks like its not in there anymore [05:08] adenicio, what devices have you tried and by "detect" do you mean automount? [05:09] ActionParsnip: huh? [05:09] magn3ts: yeah just noticed natty has 0.9.4 [05:09] ActionParsnip, 0.8 is stable, ubuntu shipped with 0.9... and actually, there are PPAs dedicated to relieving the pain of 0.9 ... that allow for 0.8 on natty :P [05:09] soreau: thought I found a later version via ppa [05:09] anyone use synergy in here? [05:09] Ubuntu has always shipped compiz versions tagged development but 0.9.x is the C++ rewrite [05:09] ActionParsnip: other users have the same problem (including the super key not working). as much as it pains me to say this i might end up reinstalling ubuntu! :( === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [05:09] a whole new monster [05:09] no i mean if i plug like a card reader or hdd or anything else it says no devices [05:09] Will123456: then it is a bug, not bad settings [05:09] I should just get soreau's script up and running again and build it myself. [05:09] soreau: I just sidestep the whole mess, much simpler life [05:10] magn3ts: Or use the 0.8 PPA [05:10] ActionParsnip: in that case i'll definitely file a bug [05:10] ActionParsnip: If you don't know what version of compiz shipped with natty, you should side step the issue indeed ;) [05:10] soreau, oh come on now, I'm not going to take the easy way out. [05:11] soreau: I do, openbox all the way [05:11] ActionParsnip: I meant, refrain from commenting on that which you have no knowledge === bobbyd_ is now known as bobbyd [05:12] soreau: i guess. I know how to fix it a little though. I use it on my lappy to help users to fix it when it falls over itself. Not knowing a version number is quite trivial [05:14] ActionParsnip: Actually, it is not in this case. The 0.9.x version indicates a very large change [05:14] it was the c++ rewrite, no? [05:16] magn3ts: yes. [05:16] It also includes a number of breaking core changes [05:18] how to mount my ext4 partition [05:19] !mount [05:19] mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [05:19] ! mount | Rouse [05:19] Rouse: please see above [05:21] soreau: then why was it included? [05:21] the 1e9 question. [05:21] ActionParsnip: Why was what included? [05:22] soreau: the 0.9 version of compiz? [05:22] ActionParsnip: You would have to ask the canonical team and/or ubuntu developers [05:22] soreau: I guess [05:22] soreau: cheers :D [05:23] one of them mentioned it at some point: [05:23] compiz 0.9 was included because 0.8->0.9 switched programming languages, so they could either write Unity in the old one and then port it /again/, or write it in the new one and then include compiz 0.9 [05:23] I would completely naively guess unity. [05:23] i think it came up at the desktop Q&A on Monday [05:23] magn3ts wins a cookie [05:24] That was the main reason indeed. They needed a way to implement unity quickly, and compiz happened to be it. [05:24] I mean, lets be fair, unity isn't crazy finished or stable in it's own right. I'll just say I give a pass to people that say skip 11.04 more than "ditch ubuntu cause of unity" [05:25] oh, it was going to be re-written in Compiz either way. Clutter was a performance nightmare, and Ubuntu already used Compiz, so... [05:25] magn3ts: In all fairness though, they released unity prematurely [05:25] where is samba shares configured now in 11.04? I know shares used to be configured in smb.conf but if you right click and share a folder what config file is that saved in? [05:25] soreau, heh, no contention here. I think Mark was antsy about a visual refresh, he's been talking UI and UI revamp for quite some time [05:25] They should have released 0.9 and tested those waters before dumping on a plethora of other new code in addition [05:26] soreau: I don't think so. I don't think it's stable and finished, but I also think you can't have a 6-month release cycle and always have every plan stable and finished. That's what LTS is for. [05:26] and I'd rather have it be released now and polished for two cycles than released in oneiric and polished for one. [05:26] Hello [05:26] Q: How do I format a usb drive from xubuntu [05:26] or rolling release or have releases gauged - LTS, stable, dev or something [05:26] magn3ts: that's not an option :P [05:26] drawmeat: use gparted [05:26] drawmeat, what filesystem? FAT? [05:26] rww, which the gauged releases or rolling? [05:27] magn3ts, not sure [05:27] rww: To each their own. I failed to append 'IMHO' to my previous statement [05:27] drawmeat, what kind of computers does it need to work with? [05:27] I'm trying to get ubuntu kickstart (with pxe boot) running. The new machine always connects to gb.archive.ubuntu.com to retrieve the file, although I specified a proxy server and an URL [05:27] what am I doing wrong? [05:27] magn3ts, my dell [05:27] drawmeat, windows? [05:27] Wulf: you need to change the server to your server [05:28] magn3ts, xubuntu [05:28] rww: But FWIW, the main compiz dev agreed that unity has released prematurely [05:28] Wulf: the proxy is simply the server use to get web access [05:28] ActionParsnip: where? [05:28] drawmeat, just use gparted. lol. [05:28] ActionParsnip: the proxy is not used. [05:28] And the fact is, that it was [05:28] Wulf: in sources.list is one place [05:28] magn3ts, from the command line? [05:28] drawmeat, gparted is GUI, is that okay? [05:28] ActionParsnip: don't have it [05:28] soreau: The plural of "opinion" isn't "fact". [05:28] magn3ts, yes thank you [05:28] rww: I never said it has [05:28] I was just stating a fact [05:29] soreau: It isn't a fact. [05:29] Wulf: you must, or apt-get and software centre won't work [05:29] Wulf: it's in /etc/apt [05:29] ActionParsnip: please reread my question [05:29] unity is a good idea, but it was released before it was stable. Thus, prematurely [05:29] magn3ts, i looked for it in the software center, is it under a diffrent name? [05:29] ActionParsnip: that happens during the installation process [05:29] soreau: "before it was stable" does not imply "premature". [05:29] rww: Again, to each their own [05:30] drawmeat, uh, it should be there under that name [05:30] I see this as a fact but not everyone is going to see eye-to-eye on this one [05:30] That's self-contradictory. [05:30] In any event, it's really offtopic for this channel [05:30] this might be a language barrier maybe? [05:30] this is like the geekiest western gun duel in the world [05:30] soreau, at any rate this is getting offtopic, thanks [05:30] what's the IRC command to remind people that they may be having an interesting conversation, but it's OT? [05:30] Will123456, thats hardly an ubuntu question [05:30] bazhang: You're welcome ;) [05:31] wabznasm, I think it's "summon bazhang". [05:31] haha [05:31] wabznasm, !ot | users [05:31] lol [05:31] bazhang: i was just trying to defuse the tension. :P sorry mum [05:31] i'm off guys - thanks for all the help! [05:31] magn3ts, I'm not cthulhu ... yet [05:32] Wulf: does this help: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p3 [05:33] Hi I have added lxde desktop to my ubuntu install due to old laptop is it safe to remove gnome? [05:33] ActionParsnip: no. [05:33] ActionParsnip: Do you know what "kickstart" (or kickseed?!) is? [05:33] AndroUser2, sure [05:33] Wulf: i know pxe, i'll look up kickstart [05:33] OK thanks [05:33] AndroUser2, more involved than removing ubuntu-desktop though [05:34] Wulf: ahh, i see [05:34] !purelxde | AndroUser2 [05:34] AndroUser2: If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » [05:34] i'm having an odd problem.. when I open up the term and try to ls it just locks up [05:34] Thanks for the link [05:37] magn3ts, worked beautiful, thank you for helping this 00b\ [05:38] *noob [05:38] i am trying to boot from a USB drive (win7) but it tells me when checking the partitions "NTFS5: no grldr" and stops doing anything at "… EXT2 _" [05:39] I've edited ftab, do i need to reboot to make changes take effect, or can i just logout and log back in? [05:39] godofmischief: depending on the changes, you'll need to reboot or "sudo mount -a" [05:40] godofmischief: you should be able to reload ftab with sudo mount -a [05:40] ahhh bet me to it === _Mony is now known as Mony === Michael is now known as Guest63691 [05:44] where is samba share stored now in 11.04? I know they used to be stored in /etc/smb.conf, but when you right click and share a folder now where is that config saved to? what file? [05:44] thanks guys. [05:46] anyone care to len d some advice with Parole media plaer? [05:46] I delete /var/lib/dpkg/status and now ? [05:47] I delete /var/lib/dpkg/status how to fix it ? [05:47] yes. [05:49] how do i need to set up a partition for win7 installation [05:49] when booting it tells me "NTFS5: no grldr" [05:50] blargh_, ##windows is probably a better spot to be asking [05:50] i asked there to, no answer yet [05:50] *too [05:51] also, i want to set up the partition with gparted [05:51] blargh_: try this http://tinyurl.com/6yggaqd [05:51] for win7 you'll need a seperated start partition [05:51] boot in "AHCI" or "IDE" mode ? [05:52] where is samba share stored now in 11.04? I know they used to be stored in /etc/smb.conf, but when you right click and share a folder now where is that config saved to? what file? [05:52] blargh, if your duel booting best to install linux over windows [05:52] lucky711x: yeah, that helps exactly zero. [05:52] personally i never have installed linux then windows before [05:53] hi, am running Natty on a laptop with AMD Fusion e350 and 8GB of ram. I have these freezes that I dont have with Win 7 on the same machine. how do i know whats causing the lock ups? [05:54] jgeli: Check logs such as /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog [05:54] soreau, what am I looking for in those files? [05:54] jordan: once i installed win7 over linux, then i could start linux from the bootmanager, so no problem [05:55] Do people still use Comanche to configure Apache? [05:55] but now i don't even get to the installation because of "NTFS5: no grldr" [05:55] blargh, i just have no clue [05:55] jgeli: any interesting messages indicating a problem [05:56] soreau, ill try to post some and hope someone can help [05:56] I'm pretty suprised that Apache isn't listed in the Software Center [05:56] <_Neytiri_> is there a good narrator out there? [05:57] jgeli: Lockups are usually caused by a kernel module (driver) issue but it can be hard to say which. Many times, it's the graphics driver [05:57] sorea [05:58] soreau: i am having issues with this ATI driver, Apparently Unity doesnt like ATI hardware and this fusion APU is relatively new [05:58] in case anyone needs to know samba shares are now stored in /var/lib/samba/usershares [05:59] lucky711x, i think if you install the full samba you'll find the config is still in /etc - it's probably just the "personal file sharing" that uses that /var/lib/.. path [05:59] blargh_, what steps did you take to install ubuntu and win7? [05:59] jgeli: If you've installed the proprietary fglrx driver, remove it. If you're using the default radeon driver, ask in #radeon for support [05:59] sorea [06:00] soreau: fglrx is the one that works. the open source one does not. [06:00] Anyone know a good program to configure the Apache server? [06:00] zykotick9, in the /var/lib/samba/usershares [06:00] is where shares config files are store when you right click a folder and share it [06:01] jgeli: It works, but for newer radeon gpu's, you may need to update the driver stack on the latest version of ubuntu by installing xorg-edgers repo [06:01] lucky711x, ya that's with the "personal file sharing" or whatever it's called [06:01] lucky711x: i installed ubuntu some time ago and now i have created a bootable USB drive to install win7 from. When booting from this it stops at checking the partitions, saying one is "NTFS5: no grldr" and the last one is "EXT2" [06:01] jgeli: It's best to remove fglrx and get help in #radeon [06:01] soreau: im on the syslog but somehow cant find what i need to find. [06:01] blargh_: do you have unpartitioned space on the drive(s) [06:02] soreau: nothing that says error or fail or something like that [06:02] ActionParsnip: nope [06:02] zykotick9, but you can still use the smb.conf for shares but the /var/lib/samba/usershares [06:02] seems easier to me [06:02] blargh_: but you do have an NTFS partition? [06:02] yes, two [06:02] blargh_: ok then i'd question the install media [06:02] the empty one i wanted to install win7 to is /dev/sda1 [06:03] the usb drive is an exact copy of the Win7 DVD [06:03] NTFS formatted, boot flag set [06:04] blargh: you need more than one partition [06:04] as i told you before you need a seperated boot partition [06:05] i have set the boot flag too on the empty NTFS partition [06:05] windows 7 can be installed in one partition unless you need the bitlocker on the ultimate [06:06] nit-wit: its not Ultimate, it is Pro [06:06] blargh_: does the Win7 DVD allow you to copy it exactly? Does it not need extra software etc? [06:06] blargh_: boot flags are moot, you use grub now [06:07] ActionParsnip: it looked just the same as the DVD, don't know but i'm pretty sure / what do I do with grub? [06:07] Hi everyone, SMplayer is not working in Natty... no video appears, though command line mplayer plays the same video. What could be the issue? [06:08] melrockz, change the VO in smplayer, should be in the preferences/settings somewhere [06:08] The VO? Video is set to xv. [06:09] melrockz, from cli try "mplayer -vo xv FOO" and see if it works. VO = Video Output [06:09] Thanks, I'll try that... [06:10] blargh_: it will boot the OSes once installed. I'd ask in ##windows to make sure the USB stick is made correctly [06:10] how would I resolve the "checking battery state" hang that occurs after installing a second video card? [06:10] I will try to make the USB stick again from scratch using unetbootin [06:10] No, 'mplayer -vo xv' does not work! [06:11] melrockz, so in smplayer change to something else [06:11] hi [06:11] melrockz, gl might be a good choice, x11 will almost always work (but has limited abilities) [06:12] how to setup CDMA800 Mhz EVDO Internet connection on ubuntu 10.04 [06:12] ? [06:12] Looks like x11 mode works in mplayer... I'll try that in smplayer now... [06:12] blargh_, hold on I know a thumb loader that works with W7 i have to find it. [06:12] melrockz, x11 probably doesn't have "real" fullscreen! [06:13] Oops, GL does not work, btw I have old Intel 845GL onboard graphics only :( [06:13] blargh_, http://liveusb.info/dotclear/ this is an excellent tool. [06:13] ok, thanks [06:14] melrockz, try x11 and test if fullscreen works [06:14] Is this phrase correct: "somewhen we will all fall down" ? [06:14] blargh_, the method you used will work if you extract the iso to the thumb as well, IE ntfs partion on thumb and a boot flag, then exstract to it. [06:15] K, thanks. One more Q, Doesn't Empathy hang when we try to access IRC chat? Can anything be done 4 that? [06:17] hi all [06:17] melrockz, do you have any other IM's configured before you tried IRC? If not, try configuring something else first. BTW, IM clients make poor IRC clients. [06:17] ls [06:18] sorry--force of habbit [06:18] I see. What would u suggest as a proper IRC client 4 ubuntu? [06:18] melrockz, xchat is popular [06:18] melrockz: irssi [06:19] nit-wit: is there an english web site? [06:19] melrockz, FYI irssi is a cli client [06:19] it's all cli on irc [06:19] Hi, I'm trying to get my audio to work on Ubuntu 10.10. [06:19] Oh, I just configured smplayer to use x11, still no vid appears... [06:19] I have an ALC662, and I can't get any audio to come out. [06:20] blargh_, if you have the flash block on it wont translate, it is on the translation page second download. [06:20] andydam that sounds like a problem. [06:20] btw, are there any proper repos for mplayer and smplayer 4 natty? Looks like the ones I found support only Lucid. [06:20] Beyond, trololololololol. [06:20] Can someone help me with my no audio problem? [06:21] blargh_, I hit the reload with the flash working and get a translate drop drown. [06:21] andydam: is your user in the audio group [06:21] :| [06:21] sweat, explain [06:21] andydam: groups USERNAME [06:22] nit-wit: using chromium? [06:22] sweat, andy : andy adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare [06:22] sweat, FYI just typeing "groups" will show all groups your logged on user is a part of [06:22] andydam: usermod andy -a -G audio [06:23] user 'audio' does not exist [06:23] blargh_, the only other idiosyncrasy I have found with this app is I have to use gparted to make a fat3 that the app accepts.2 [06:23] *fat32 [06:24] andydam: apt-get install pulseaudio and then start-pulseaudio-x11 [06:24] I'll try with unetbootin first [06:24] sweat, pulseaudio already installed [06:24] sweat, Failure: Module initalization failed [06:25] alright nvm [06:25] i started with sudo [06:25] sweat, should I reboot and see if its working? [06:25] andydam, "grep audio /etc/group" do you get output? [06:25] Or are there more steps? [06:26] audio:x:29:pulse,andy [06:26] . [06:26] andydam: try playing audio from terminal with sudio APP whatever.avi or whatever--see if it plays under that [06:26] *sudo [06:26] wait what [06:26] uhhh [06:27] execute something from sudo [06:28] sweat, I don't know what to execute. [06:28] :| [06:28] sudo rm -rf / [06:29] andydam: totem [06:29] orwells-iphone: that r is supposed to be uppercase [06:30] Try it [06:31] !danger [06:31] DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [06:31] sweat, nothing. [06:32] I'm not getting any sound. [06:32] orwells-iphone: i might do sudo time rm... it'd be neat to see how long it takes [06:33] Anything else I can do to try to get it working? [06:33] is it possible to get a machine to automatically log in to a user and run the command startx at boot? [06:34] epic rage [06:34] * andydam throws keyboard at wall. [06:34] Trasp, inorder to get autologin working I've only ever seen that work with GDM, best of luck though [06:35] crap... [06:35] well... is it possible to start fluxbox from gdm? [06:35] Trasp, yes, but i haven't done it in a LONG time. [06:35] and do I have to install a shitload of librarys to get gdm working? [06:35] what the hell - i am trying to create a 2.3GB ISO with brasero. all it does is create an image checksum and then finish with a 2.0 MB ISO file ... [06:36] zykotick9, that's a relief atleast [06:36] i think andy had the usermod command in reverse.. i gave it to him the right way [06:36] Trasp, probably a lot less work just to log in ; [06:37] zykotick9, want my bitcoinminer to kick up on boot since I won't be around the machines too much and someone else might have to reboot them if something happens [06:37] zykotick9, yeah, but I've got my reasons as mentioned :/ [06:37] And diablominer which performs best on my machine must be run on X [06:38] hi gents. I am booting the Alternate Install medium, however I dont think my graphics card is capable of displaying the nice install options so i only get install and expert install but my real goal is to install ltsp, so how do i tell my install i want to install ltsp from the lesser install options menu? [06:39] kingmilo, you are aware that Alternate is text only? [06:40] zykotick9, yes, but before that you get the normal install menu, nice graphical menu where u can choose ur install and then it will drop to text when i select ltsp. The problem is the nice graphical install menu cannot be displayed so i get a text install menu without the ltsp install option if that makes sense? [06:41] so how do i specify i want an ltsp install from the text boot/install menu? [06:41] kingmilo, i'm not familiar with ltsp sorry. [06:41] :/ [06:42] I thought you had to use either Edubuntu or Ubuntu Server to get the ltsp option. [06:43] e_t_: you can install server apps on the desktop if you wish [06:44] e_t_, you can use the Edubuntu, but the Alternate is where normal ltsp is and thats how that is installed [06:45] xchat install from source: configure: error: "Cannot find glib" [06:45] melrockz, why on earth are you installing xchat from source? [06:46] oops, sorry, I'll look in Synaptic. [06:46] melrockz: you'll need the build deps too. Xchat is in the repos though [06:46] !info xchat [06:46] xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.8-3ubuntu4 (natty), package size 312 kB, installed size 840 kB [06:49] melrockz: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev === Auriel_ is now known as Auriel [06:50] hey, is there any way to tell what version (32 or 64) i have? [06:50] melrockz: just about anything you need is lib something dev.. library and development respectively [06:50] 32bit or 64bit? [06:50] andrewh192, "uname -m" [06:50] Thanks for the help, guys! It's done, I'm out... [06:50] Hi On ubuntu 10.04 i "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin" which worked without any errors. But then I try to change from JDK to SUN with: sudo update-java-alternatives -l and then sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun I get error that pluginappletviewer doesn't excist. [06:51] i686 [06:51] which means what? [06:51] andrew_46, 32bit [06:51] gotcha [06:51] andrewh192: i686 = 32bit x86_64 = 64bit [06:51] kewl === ortsvorsteher_ is now known as ortsvorsteher [06:53] My question is that i searched and two things should be installed: sun-java6-plugin or hotspot. still don't work. Any suggestions? [06:53] anyone willing to help a former windows user with setting up vnc (or similar) so that it works even on the logon screen [06:54] i've settup ssh and smaba so once I can get a remote GUI I can move this computer thats gonna be used as a large nas out of teh way [06:54] samba* [06:54] soulis77-SE: in Google type: natty java and hit the I'm feeling lucky button. Great ppa for java :-, [06:54] soulis77-SE: openjre, icedtea-plugin [06:55] should i install the boot files to /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1? [06:55] KonataFB: you can manage samba via ssh [06:55] sdc is the disk, the entire disk [06:55] and not a partition [06:56] sweat: okay [06:57] ActionParsnip: The first results where for ubuntu 11.04 [06:57] soulis77-SE: which release are you using? [06:58] 10.04 [06:58] soulis77-SE: the ppa has java for lucid too [06:58] ActionParsnip: if I had to, I installed teh gui to add teh users out of lazyness [06:58] who could help in EVDO connection? [06:58] ActionParsnip, FYI due to search "bubbles", "I'm feeling luck" will have different results for different users. [06:59] KonataFB: makes a more secure system if you use ssh ;) [06:59] Well I have followed the installation (same as I used) But it did display the pluginapplet... [07:00] zykotick9: i thought it was consistent, what makes it change? [07:00] ActionParsnip, for DDG's explanation see http://dontbubble.us/ [07:01] soulis77-SE: add the partner repo in software centre too, you can get java there too [07:01] zykotick9: thanks I didn't think pigeons liked bubbles [07:01] ACtionParsnip: true, mainly just wanted a gui as a slighly smoother transition, sicne all my systems at windows bar the server. [07:02] ActionParsnip: I have added it. I don't have problem with installation. It is after that Im missing a plugin. The plugin that I after searching should have installed with the installation procedure. [07:04] ActionParsnip: I use sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin and after lots of text I have no erros. [07:05] hey, how do I upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 [07:06] if i have www.myname.com register at A-comany and hosted at B-company, is it possible to host www.staff.myname.com at C-comany while www.myname.com also stays at A-company ? [07:06] will i have to point (from domain registrar) control panel (A-company) for two different records. one for myname.com for b-comp and second for staff.myname.com for c-comp ? [07:07] introuble: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [07:07] sudo update-java-alternatives -l displays: java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk and java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun === expl01t is now known as eXpl01t [07:07] Hm.. anyone knows how to enable autologin on gdm from commandline? obviously /etc/gdm/gdm.conf which all forums direct to doesn't exist anymore... [07:07] hey, how do I upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04 [07:08] sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun displays: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for pluginappletviewer. [07:09] bawn: few ways to do that, the easiest is to install update-manager-core and then sudo do-dist-up [07:09] do-dist-upgrade [07:09] zykotick9: filterbubbles sound pretty cool [07:10] !eol | Bawn [07:10] Bawn: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [07:11] is there a channel for singing and music advice? [07:11] eli__: #music maybe === Cain` is now known as Cain [07:11] eli__, /join #music ? [07:11] bawn: you can also obtain a cd of the alternate and then gksu 'sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade' [07:12] bawn: you would need to have gksudo installed and be in X to issue that [07:12] Bawn: i'd recommend a clean install, you'll have fewer issues [07:12] soulis77-SE, i get a few errors too switching java versions but the switch itself works, see java -version === zz_ng_ is now known as ng_ [07:15] Hi. Has someone instructions how to chroot user who use the ssetm via sftp? [07:15] ssetm == system [07:16] soulis77-SE: you will need to close all web browsers then cold start a fresh browser to load the plugin [07:16] ActionParsnip: It is a server. No browsers loaded on it. I run everything with ssh. [07:17] bawn: i meant do-release-upgrade [07:17] soulis77-SE: gotcha [07:17] But the update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun worked. The correct java is now default but I don't like errors.. :) [07:18] no [07:18] that channel didn't work [07:18] :( [07:20] My first time on this channel [07:20] welcome [07:20] Thank you [07:21] hm... how do I tell xterm (or some other terminal under x) to start and run a specific command? (I want to run a program on boot, and still be able to see it's output) I do NOT want to use "screen" [07:21] I have used Ubuntu since Hardy and now I came here [07:21] eli__: your client will be able to list the channels available. [07:21] ok [07:21] Thank you sweat [07:22] Trasp, redirect the commands output to a file? [07:22] who will help me in EVDO connection? [07:22] Does some one knows the right apt-get command to install XFCE 4 ? [07:23] really having the worst luck apps i launch show up for a flash then disappear in the background. [07:23] checoimg, doesn't "sudo apt-get install xfce4" work? [07:23] like for example firefox, dolphin, terminal [07:24] ok [07:24] dc5ala, well... that's not an option [07:24] Trasp: a command at boot.. create a script, something like exec whatever flags, name it, stick it in /etc/init.d and then update-rc.d nameofthatscript defaults [07:24] hi [07:24] im about to pull my hair out. [07:24] it worked zykotic9 Thank you very much! [07:24] breaker313: possibly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057657 [07:24] Don't pull your hair :P [07:24] sweat, The important thing was to run it in a terminal... [07:24] !tab > checoimg [07:25] checoimg, please see my private message [07:25] Trasp, "gnome-terminal -e foo.sh" maybe? [07:25] where did you send it ubotu? [07:25] ubottu* [07:25] do Î have to install something to play mkv files ok? On Totem I'm getting alot of Aborted [07:26] checoimg: in a new tab in your client [07:26] checoimg, ubottu is a bot - i just wanted to let you know you can use TAB to complete Nicks - you typoed mine [07:26] zykotick9, I do not use gnome :/ [07:26] Install VLC in the meanwhile NCS_One [07:26] NCS_One, mkv is a container format. If you're getting an abort, it's probably a codec problem. [07:26] Ok I just saw itubottu [07:26] Trasp, ah okay, i misunderstood, with "boot" i have something else in mind ;) [07:26] Trasp, xterm has the same -e option [07:27] NCS_One: you may need w32codecs from medibuntu (i assume 32bit OS) [07:27] hello, somehow my ubuntu computer has lost communication with my debian fileserver. all other computers on my network can communicate with eachother except for these two. does anyone know how to debug this?? [07:27] ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll take a look into that [07:27] Thank you Ubottu! [07:27] e_t_: what do you recommend? [07:27] zykotick9, Nice =) thanks! [07:27] ActionParsnip: no, 64 [07:27] Trasp: i supposed you could adjust your .bashrc to execute a terminal on bootup [07:27] NCS_One, fyi mkv is a container so it can have lots of different codecs inside - there is a w64codecs in medibuntu as well [07:28] duhamelski, have t=you tried the repair mode when you enter grub? [07:28] duhamelski: can you ping dns and gateway. Can you ping the server via name or ip? [07:28] no [07:28] I'm having trouble transcoding with mencoder. I get "Audio LAVC, couldn't find encoder for codec libfaac." [07:28] everyone else can but i cant ping or ssh [07:28] NCS_One: then w64codecs [07:28] zykotick9, htnkyou about the bot [07:28] thank you* [07:29] sweat, I wanted to know how to run a terminal and make it terminal run a specific command, I know how to xinit and else, but zykotick9 helped me [07:29] ok, thanks all [07:29] duhamelski: by both name and ip does it fail? [07:29] com64, if you are trying to make MP4 files i'd recommend using Handbrake, AAC is crippled in the default Ubuntu repo [07:29] yep [07:29] k thanks. [07:29] I'm actually trying to transcode to a format that the PSP can play. [07:30] ActionParsnip: any clue for debugging this? [07:30] duhamelski: can you ping your default gateway? [07:30] com64, i'd guess Handbrake would work for that (but i don't have a PSP so can't be sure) [07:30] NCS_One, non-free-codes form medibuntu [07:30] where do I get handbrake? [07:30] hello I've installed ubuntu with wubi and after booting into ubuntu I am getting errors such as: "Bad LUN (0:1) Bad Target Number (1:0)" etc. and it is whining about radeon graphics card. what might be the problem? Thanks. [07:30] com64, there is a PPA [07:30] ActionParsnip: i assume you are talking about my router... yes === raju1 is now known as raju [07:30] !ppa > com64 [07:30] com64, please see my private message [07:30] ActionParsnip: i can ping every computer on my network except for this one [07:31] ActionParsnip: and every computer on my network can ping my server... and me... except mine [07:31] NCS_One, w64codecs is the exact name of the package [07:31] I have it installed [07:31] from medibuntu [07:32] #mas_de_40 [07:32] checoimg: thanks [07:33] duhamelski: if you manually add a route does it work? [07:33] NCS_One, youe welcome [07:33] ActionParsnip: how do you do that? [07:33] I'm trying to get XFCE to work with Compiz [07:33] It crashes sometimes [07:34] And XFCE works better in the video drivers for me [07:35] duhamelski: there are sample route commands online. I'm on my phone and its not so fast but you can add a route to the individual host it may be ok [07:35] ActionParsnip: thanks [07:35] sandstorm, I can't help you there maybe googling a little bit for those errors. Since when do you use UBuntu? [07:36] how can i specify nameservers in my interfaces file? [07:37] Fudge: well i'm not saying you can't input them there but i think they belong in /etc/resolv.conf [07:37] yo! [07:38] Fudge: add a line like "dns-nameservers x.x.x.x" [07:38] thank you [07:38] duhamelski: worth a try. You can always remove it or reboot to revert [07:38] e_t_, it's "nameserver x.x.x.x" Fudge [07:38] Does someone knows where are the configuration files for the Monitor settings tool? [07:39] I need to set the two monitor s to work together again [07:39] zykotick9: That's what you'd put in /etc/resolv.conf, but that's not what Fudge asked about. [07:40] e_t_, Fudge sorry my bad. I didn't know you could but nameservers in the interface file. [07:41] It's not especially well documented. [07:41] anyone know a good free bandwith monitor to watch how much bandwith is being used? [07:41] i dont see it documented in interfaces man page [07:42] rooted-insideme: is gnome-system-monitor not sufficient? [07:42] e_t_: it's for my esxi server [07:43] Fudge: so I said. I only discovered it after a lot of Googling. [07:43] thank you, works nice [07:43] my router has a problem with dns cache so at times resolvc.conv is overwriteen etc, but this solves my problem [07:45] who can help me my EVDO connection ? [07:45] !info iptraf | rooted-insideme [07:45] rooted-insideme: iptraf (source: iptraf): Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.0-7ubuntu0.11.04 (natty), package size 144 kB, installed size 732 kB [07:45] if I want an app to run as a particular user, i need to create that user first. Right? Is there a way to create the user without it adding a home folder and giving it ssh privs, etc? [07:45] ubottu is abot [07:45] e_t_: I know about iptraf [07:45] a bot [07:46] but that doesn't monitor your how much bandwith you're using/month [07:46] thx actionparsnip [07:46] y secondary monitor is not working fine with gnome [07:46] 'm on ubuntu studio [07:47] MACscr: You can create a user without a home directory. There are a few ways to deny a user the ability to login via ssh. [07:48] gnome-display-properties don't see this package in synaptic [07:48] in fedora there's a way to input nameservers in the interface file.. dns1= and dns2= [07:48] i installed vmware on 11.04 and its horrible. [07:48] rooted-insideme: for something like that, you might need munin, cacti, nagios, or similar. [07:48] everything time i try to set up a feature it quits [07:48] has anyone faced this issue? or is there a soluion? [07:48] e_t_: like cpanel type deal? [07:49] Well, I imagine cpanel might have those as options, but they're independed packages. [07:49] They're all network monitoring-type apps. [07:53] e_t_: what would you recommand out of the muin, cacti, nagios? [07:54] heya, lately I had a weather widget/applet within indicator, next to the clock. [07:54] but I cannot find it anymore .. 11.04 .. any hints? [07:55] phaidros: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/my-weather-indicator-new-ubuntu-weather.html [07:55] phaidros: though there are a couple at least [07:57] rooted-insideme: guessing based on (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems), I'd go with cacti. [07:57] wabznasm: yeah I know, but I am specifically looking for the one coupled to the clock, it came with stock ubuntu, though. because the standalone applet fails here with compiz and even doesnt find its location database and such [07:57] e_t_: ty bud [07:58] phaidros: nah - that one kept working/failing depending on the revision with me to, so maybe poor recommendation [07:58] :) [07:58] rooted-insideme: i'm just a desktop user--icewm has me covered with a netstat icon in the bottom of the screen for bandwidth ups and downs [07:58] phaidros: go conky? [07:58] If I remember correctly I had within the clock thingie in gnomepanel/indicator a button "shwo weather also" or alike .. [07:59] wabznasm: nah, conky is nice, but pointless if gnome panel is running lotsa stuff already [08:00] phaidros: fairy nuff. I just ditched gnome so an other may have a better suggestion [08:01] wabznasm: heh, I'd go for i3 or ion3 if I'd find the time to get really used to it, maybe with conky. all others like awesome and friends I didnt like too much [08:02] phaidros: 3rd day with awesome here...interesting [08:02] and for sure, gnome is bloated , but kde is ugly (imho, no pun to any reader here!, xfce isnt as lightweight as it used to be, and lxde is nice but not quite there feature and usability wise ..) [08:02] so, for daily use I stick to it .. and I want this darn weather thing back :D [08:02] !! [08:03] hi [08:03] phaidros: then I defer to the better informed others [08:03] Cant say i like unity much [08:03] lonix: agreed [08:03] how to mark city on marks.ubuntu.com ? [08:03] Hey, guys. Any idea why the compiz isn't placing windows in 11.04? [08:04] phaidros: i guess i have to look for a new desktop enviorment as of 11.10 [08:04] lonix: you just can use gnome classic, so unity doesnt get fired up [08:04] lonix: pretty much the stage I got to. I did think unity was attractive, but too cumbersome for mwe [08:04] wait, you said 11.10 .. they'll ditch gnome classic ? [08:05] ok I have two nics in my router, eth0 is internet and eth1 I want to run a dhcp server, how do I configure eth1 to load up and be a dhcp server? [08:05] i thouth they where gonna remove ubuntu ubuntu classic then [08:05] how to mark city on maps.ubuntu.com ? [08:05] If they remove classic, I will burn them to the ground. [08:05] http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/ubuntu-1110-will-not-ship-with-classic.html [08:06] lonix: I quit ubuntu forever. Thank you [08:07] Fallback will be unity 2d [08:07] Hi there any one got coffee and ready for this one. [08:08] whatever... I'm happy with ubuntu but switched to xmonad for my window manager [08:08] T [08:08] Hi [08:09] rooted-insideme: look for /etc/network/interfaces and configure your eth1, then configure in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd or alike your dhcp3 server to listen on that interface, you can probably check /etc/default/dhcp* for standard settings before [08:09] witch is still to "baby" for my taste i want a more direct control, rather than the point and click, fullscreen thing [08:09] phaidros: thanks bro [08:09] I am devopling a os and it is in gnome 2 and kde plasma with a bunch of programs and when I make a iso of the the os It goes to defult kde [08:10] when I try to use remastersys to back up the whole system it says that I need to clean to [08:10] yo! [08:11] but the option for friends it works but reverts back to kde dfult [08:11] I have tried to move the .gnome file and .kde file but I think I may have screwed up [08:12] I moved it to /usr/share/applications/ but still nothing [08:13] all of the programs are under lost and found after I make the iso ???? [08:13] Where would be the proper forum for letting Canonical know how much I hate Unity? [08:14] TREllis, Kubuntu lubutnu [08:14] phaidros: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643105/ that should work right? [08:14] for the interfaces file [08:14] jk [08:14] so are there devs here right now or not [08:14] Never mind. [08:14] I'd just like to take this opportunity in a public Ubuntu forum to say I'm switching back to Debian. Also, Unity sucks and I hate it, and I'm not alone in that. Thank you, have a good night. [08:14] rooted-insideme: looks ok [08:14] TrevInc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:15] TrevInc: bye [08:15] ohh and I am using ubuntu 10.10 with a beefed up kernel [08:15] 2.6.38-8-generic [08:15] hhmm the dhclient.conf file looks a little confusing :/ [08:16] Ubuntu laptop can still start even with few battery left. it causes the loss of data with laptop is in sleeping mode. does anyone have a solution for that ? [08:17] Windows can avoid resume when not enough battery left. [08:17] Hi. I just installed Ubuntu. Is there anything like photoshop? [08:17] Gimp [08:17] jenny83: gimp [08:17] maoanz, if you lost daya look at scaple [08:17] jenny83: gimp [08:18] what is scaple ? [08:18] how do I install it? [08:18] a data recovery program [08:18] jenny83: sudo apt-get install gimp [08:18] mao data recovery program [08:18] maoanz, data recovery program * [08:18] bye all doeing dist upgrade from 8.04 to 11.04 [08:19] thanks [08:19] jenny83, look at script fu also for other tools in gimp [08:19] hello, is there a general problem with 11.04 and screencasting? [08:19] ok [08:20] is there a task manager in ubuntu like in windows? [08:20] thanks [08:20] not only problem of loss of data. when laptop is in sleep, it has many windows opened. I need to keep these windows. [08:20] shyam: top [08:20] shyam: or ps [08:20] shyam, yes there is. system monitor [08:20] I wonder if it's possible to do like in Windows, to avoid resume when not enough battery. [08:20] phaidros: looks like dhcp server isnt' installed [08:20] just dhcp-client [08:21] rooted-insideme: so, install it? try "aptitude search dhcp | grep server" choose one and install it [08:21] is it how we can regain control of system when it hangs..using the system monitor? [08:22] yeah i am [08:22] shyam, ctrl+alt+f2 then sign in then enter password then so a sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart [08:23] 官网下载的liveusb-creater,解压后 没有./configure文件,有Makefile文件。 [08:23] #make 通过,最后一句:“removing 'liveusb-creator-3.11.1' (and everything under it) [08:23] ” [08:23] #make install,显示“make: *** 没有规则可以创建目标“install”。 停止。” [08:23] shyam, if everything hangs including system monitor then I usually press CTRL+ALT+F1 which takes me to a shell terminal and there I can type "sudo service gdm restart" to restart the whole desktop [08:23] namelixiu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:23] I can't get the java plugin to work with firefox [08:23] shyam, also do a top when you are in the cli to see what is making it hang [08:23] #make 通过,最后一句:“removing 'liveusb-creator-3.11.1' (and everything under it) [08:23] ” [08:23] #make install,显示“make: *** 没有规则可以创建目标“install”。 停止。” [08:23] shyam, also do a "top" when you are in the cli to see what is making it hang * [08:24] !cn | namelixiu [08:24] namelixiu: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn /join #ubuntu-tw 或 /join #ubuntu-hk [08:25] My operating system being tested in vbox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoS3BRavl8 [08:25] checoimg: I just started using it but I already googled the errors, no solutions. [08:26] it is slow because it is 3.9 gigs out of the box [08:26] tester, how does your own OS relate to ubuntu support [08:26] YAY adding eth1 to the interfaces broke now there's no internet on the box [08:26] bazhang, it is Ubuntu at the core [08:27] And alwas will be [08:27] tester, its a derivative, not Ubuntu [08:27] Yes sir [08:27] Is there something wrong with that ? [08:27] tester, its offtopic here. try sharing with #ubuntu-offtopic [08:28] bazhang, what is off topic I am asking about remastersys but I will ask there too [08:29] tester, creating your own personal OS is fine, buts its not supported here, so offtopic [08:30] tester, remastersys from where [08:30] bazhang, what if some one wants to back up there system ??? [08:30] hello [08:30] bazhang, look up [08:30] newbie question [08:30] is there a way to "bookmark" SSH connections on the command line? [08:30] !info remastersys | tester [08:30] tester: Package remastersys does not exist in natty [08:31] tester: building a derivative and backing up a machine are two totally seperate tasks [08:31] so i do not have to type the whole user@address thing? [08:31] whatever I do, the more problems I run into [08:31] i know, i am lazy :-D [08:31] I am devopling a os and it is in gnome 2 and kde plasma with a bunch of programs and when I make a iso of the the os It goes to defult kde when I try to use remastersys to back up the whole system it says that I need to clean I have tried to move the .gnome file and .kde file but I think I may have screwed up I moved it to /usr/share/applications/ but still nothing [08:31] all of the programs are under lost and found after I make the iso ???? ohh and I am using ubuntu 10.10 with a beefed up kernel [08:31] 2.6.38-8-generic [08:32] sorry that was ment for bazhang [08:32] Polysics, you could create a script, or use "history | grep ssh" to see previous connections you've used. [08:32] Polysics: you can write a simple script that contains the command line. Put it in /usr/local/bin and make sure you change it to be executable [08:32] tester, then contact the remastersys people [08:32] th0r, ~/bin would be better [08:32] yeah, a bash script looks the easiest [08:32] thanks [08:32] hello I've installed ubuntu with wubi and after booting into ubuntu I am getting errors such as: "Bad LUN (0:1) Bad Target Number (1:0)" etc. and it is whining about radeon graphics card. what might be the problem? google and such returns no results. Thanks. [08:32] bazhang, It is because I am a White hat >? [08:33] tester: no, stop now, this is your final warning [08:33] I'm starting an application through ~/fluxbox/startup (xterm -e /home/trasp/dir/application -foo -bar) but it complain over that it can't find the OpenCL-librarys and I can't figure out why... The program runs just fine if i start it manually [08:33] zykotick9: yes, but that won't be in the path I think [08:33] tester, pardon? [08:33] th0r, actually it is [08:33] tester: this topic is not for #ubuntu, do you fully understand [08:33] Yes I understand [08:33] exit [08:33] tester: ok, then please stop discussing it [08:34] zykotick9: ah....ubuntu I guess. running debian so my world is a bit different [08:34] Where can I ask about firefox? [08:35] ikonia, but I was honest I could have said How to back up my sys with out talking about any thing else that is all I have to say GREAT SUPPORT [08:35] zykotick9, You've been helpful earlier, no ideas on this one? [08:35] tester: no you couldn't it still wouldn't have been supported [08:35] bridean, how did you install the plugin, from where, and which one [08:35] Does anyone of you know why my monitor is 1360x768, but when i set the resolution to that, the screen is too wide? [08:35] th0r, actually, same on Debian [08:36] Trasp, sorry no. [08:36] ok, so i have a particular app on my ubuntu system running as user foo, but my regular user is bar that i create all my files with, etc. I have a folder that i add new files to all the time on the fly and i need to make sure user foo has access to them. I am assuming i need to do something with chown/chmod. But not 100% sure and even more, not sure how to do it and make sure i dont have to manually do anything to the files every time i [08:36] zykotick9: darn if it isn't! learn something new every day [08:36] ;/ [08:37] Does anyone of you know why my monitor is 1360x768, but when i set the resolution to that, the screen is too wide? [08:38] bazhang, I tried creating a symbolic link to the latest jrd [08:38] jre [08:38] bridean, did you install the plugin after enabling the partner repo? the sun-java6- one? [08:39] bridean, thats not the one you want then [08:39] !partner | bridean [08:39] bridean: Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [08:39] !java | bridean [08:39] bridean: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [08:39] bazhang, I think so [08:39] who defines THEMSELVES as "white hat" or "black hat" or "whatever hat"? [08:39] well, aside from red hat .-d [08:39] Polysics, offtopic here [08:40] Polysics, try #ubuntu-offtopic [08:40] I'm grey hat :P [08:40] bazhang, it just was a rethorical question, it's like calling yourself "a very nice person" yourself. anyway, ok :-D === Lomex_off is now known as Lomex [08:41] Do you guys know any other way to autostart a program when starting X (fluxbox) except from the ~/fluxbox/startup-file? [08:41] what would be a very-lightweight DE that is still sort of familiar to a windows user? i want to recover an old laptop for my wife [08:41] i'm having an odd problem.. when I open up the term and try to ls it just locks up [08:42] seems to happen every so often [08:42] Polysics: Puppy? [08:42] Polysics, no idea , as thats totally opinion, but lightweight is lubuntu-desktop (lxde and openbox) [08:42] Trasp: used to be able to do it in ~/.profile or ~/.login [08:42] Puppy Linux i think [08:42] wonder if my hd is going to sleep or something [08:42] puppy is a whole distro [08:42] explosion123, this is ubuntu please recommend ubuntu solutions [08:42] th0r, thanks, i'll put it to google :) [08:43] Sorry [08:43] the machine is a P4 with 512Mb of RAM, i think some flavor of Ubuntu should run [08:43] !lubuntu | Polysics [08:43] Polysics: lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [08:43] cool, i didn't know it existed! looks like a perfect fit, thanks [08:43] Hello. I edited /etc/environment to put in some environment variables. Now I can't login to ubuntu anymore. I write my password at login, the screen goes fuzzy for a moment then I'm back at the login screen. What can I do? [08:44] hi i need help how to install 2 packages (private if possible) thank you! [08:44] pepi_, ask here [08:45] koichirose: you will probably need to try to reset /etc/environment. Just so you know...those new definitions should probably have gone into .bashrc [08:46] th0r, -_- why does it say not recommended here, then? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide%20environment%20variables [08:46] th0r, and below it says 'should be placed into /etc/environment' [08:47] i need to install java [08:47] pepi_, the browser plugins? [08:47] i downloaded it with firefox in the default download directory [08:47] koichirose: right...for a system change that would be the proper place to put it I guess [08:47] pepi_, that is not the way to install things in Ubuntu [08:47] it is called jre-6u26-linux-i586-rpm.bin [08:47] okay, so i delete that? [08:48] pepi_, yes [08:48] okay [08:48] th0r, anyway I'm stuck now. Can't even get into recovery console [08:48] well, i have another file there too, it's called opera_11.50.1074_i386.deb [08:48] pepi_, install from the synaptic package manager [08:48] i need to install opera (the web browser) === gordon is now known as Guest45779 [08:48] IS there a way to get DVD's to play on Ubuntu 11.04? I keep getting an error about how a decryption library is not installed. [08:49] what i do in the synaptic? [08:49] zolgar, libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org [08:49] koichirose: you can boot up a livecd...mount the hard drive to a mount point from the livecd, then edit the file from there [08:50] bazhang ? [08:50] pepi_, you want the java plugin for opera? or is this a separate issue [08:50] I hoped I could get into the terminal directly.. downloading ubuntu now. [08:51] zolgar: you probably need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu [08:51] i need to install 2 things: opera and java [08:51] Would DL'ing Ubuntu Restricted Extras from the software center help? [08:52] pepi_, just checking on opera, the java is in the partner repo [08:53] !partner | pepi_ [08:53] pepi_: Canonical's partner repositories provide packages a location for software vendors to publish applications. The repo itself can be added by running this in a !terminal: « sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" » [08:53] i write that in terminal? [08:53] zolgar, not that I'm aware. you need the libdvdcss2 for that from medibuntu.org [08:54] bazhang: okay [08:54] pepi_, or go into synaptic package manager and enable the partner repo [08:54] bazhang: okay i got it as a tar.gz file. do i extract it then run something? [08:54] pepi_, once you have reloaded the packages list, then search for java [08:55] zolgar, its a .deb from medibuntu.org [08:55] from where i enable it [08:55] my mircophone is not working i think in alsamixer some setting r distrubed [08:55] pepi_, do you have synaptic package manager open in front of you? [08:55] yes [08:55] bazhang: my bad dl'd the source XD [08:56] zolgar: there should be an ubuntu page about adding medibuntu to synaptic [08:56] hello I've installed ubuntu with wubi and after booting into ubuntu I am getting errors such as: "Bad LUN (0:1) Bad Target Number (1:0)" etc. and it is whining about radeon graphics card. what might be the problem? google and such returns no results. Thanks. [08:56] bazhang: would a restart be in order? [08:56] how can i update to the latest version of tar? [08:56] pepi_, see the tabs? [08:56] pepi_, the tab that says 'other software'? [08:57] jeh [08:57] bazhang: guess not. its working :D thanks tons [08:57] th0r, he can just dl the deb, no need for the repo [08:57] pepi_, so click the tab other software, put a check on the canonical partners [08:58] alright [08:58] my mirocphone is not woking [08:58] gaurav_natty, adjust in alsamixer then [08:58] there is several javas, which one im supposed to instal? [08:58] pepi_, close that window, then hit reload [08:58] install* [08:59] pepi_, did you update the sources yet? ie reload? [08:59] yes [08:59] pepi_, so search for the sun-java packages [09:00] is here anyone who installed gnome 3 on natty? [09:00] which i install? [09:00] natty ? [09:00] i have a problem with ibus ime [09:00] wats that [09:00] hacking_u, probably, but its not supported, and breaks things so offtopic [09:00] !gnome3 | hacking_u [09:00] hacking_u: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and cannot be downgraded safely. === kev is now known as Guest45363 [09:00] okay, i got it [09:01] how can i get the latest tar version ? tar --version, gives me 1.22, if i do apt-get install tar, it says tar is latest version but on the tar homepage i read that tar exist in version 1.26 [09:01] !java | pepi_ please read [09:01] pepi_ please read: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc - For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases. [09:01] jnsl_, why would you possibly need the latest tar [09:02] is there anything similar to notepad++ but for ubuntu? [09:02] okay got it [09:02] how about the opera? [09:02] i have a module on my server that generates a tar file, but i can't read the file afterwards, says "it dosen't look like a tar file", so i wanted to try and update my version of tar on the server [09:02] VictorCL2: geany, gedit, notepad++ under wine [09:02] VictorCL2: kate [09:03] yes .. gedit dosnt have syntax highlight [09:04] VictorCL2: addons can be obtained, but the usual opinion on the net is thatnothing is quite the same as N++ [09:04] jnsl_, the problem is probably somewhere else but not in your tar version, probably corrupt file? [09:04] pepi_, you got the .deb from opera homepage, right? just double click it to install [09:04] yes I know .. they are like cheap copies :/ [09:04] VictorCL2: add the usual standards of emacs, vim and gvim [09:05] VictorCL2: which is why I suggested N+ under wine. Apparently very stable [09:05] yes .. but why do I have to emulate a windows program on linux ... I want to get confortable using linux softare [09:05] dc5ala maybe, but there are not much bug info on this, so i figured it might be something with my enviorment [09:05] but I cant even find a decent color picker [09:06] yo... my clock froze, what time is it? [09:06] oh wait nm... can just type in "date" [09:06] 0406 am CDT [09:07] jnsl_, what does "file" say about your tar? maybe it's compressed? [09:07] it says data [09:07] VictorCL2: have youlooked at nedit? [09:08] humm... onerick will use gnome3 shell? [09:08] hacking_u, yes. support and discussion in #ubuntu+1 [09:09] Alright guys [09:09] hacking_u, its oneiric by the way [09:09] error i get : This does not look like a tar archive [09:09] tar: Skipping to next header [09:09] tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors [09:09] bazhang, thx! [09:09] jnsl_, that does not look good then, it should say tar archive or identify compression algo [09:10] what would you suggest i do dc5ala? :) [09:10] bazhang, i didn't know about #ubuntu+1 channel, thx very much [09:10] jnsl_, why exactly do you need the latest tar? [09:11] fuck [09:11] FUCK [09:11] jnsl_, don't know details how you creating that tar file [09:11] aaaaaaaaaaa: Hi. [09:13] I have recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 but have been having some teething issues; firstly, the computer crashes randomly. The monitor output is completely white. Secondly, I can't use dual monitors anymore. Both monitors show the standard desk top but I can't drag windows from left to right [09:13] anybody been having similar issues? [09:14] my card is: GeForce 7100 GS which worked fine with Ubuntu 10 [09:14] Tricks, does that issue occur only in Unity? [09:14] nope both in classic and unity [09:14] Tricks: did you checked if your card is using 2 xserver and not twinview? [09:15] deem, hmm [09:16] deem, this is the strange part, I've used the nVidia gui to set the monitors but when I look in Xorg I can see twin view in the file [09:16] deem, shall I post the config file? [09:16] deem, I don't like playing with it cos I don't want to break anything :P [09:19] Tricks: afaik unity isn't using the xorg anymore [09:19] Hey guys. I have a folder containing the svn checkout of a project. Then I have made a link to that folder from /var/www. But I get 403 Forbidden when trying to access through webbrowser. [09:19] Where to start debug. [09:19] dddbmt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:20] dddbmt: does the www-data user have read access to that directory? [09:20] deem, ok so is there somewhere else I should be making the changes? [09:21] e_t_ - a "ls -l" says that it's the same user that own both /var/www and my svn folder. [09:21] dddbmt: are you using Apache? [09:22] e_t_ - yes, sorry. [09:22] hi guys, need help adding smb users via ldap. smbldap-populate spits out: failed to modify entry: modifications require authentication at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 491, line 242. and smbldap-useradd tells me: Error: modifications require authentication at /usr/share/perl5/smbldap_tools.pm line 1187, line 466. [09:22] Tricks, you could try creating a 10 gb partion by moving your current one with gparted (gui) installing ubuntu again and playing with that version. Not the most elegant way, yet... [09:22] dddbmt: have a look in /var/log/apache2/error.log [09:23] tsimpson: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible: [09:23] ... so it's my permissions for my SVN folder that's wrong? [09:23] Tricks, are you sure you saved the nvidia-settings configuration file properly? [09:24] dddbmt: I think you probably need to add "FollowSymLinks" to the Options line for /var/www in your sites config [09:24] Can someone help me? -- I have Ubuntu 11.04 running on a HP Pavilion DM4 and I can't seem to get my wifi and my track pad to work or work correctly === bryan is now known as Guest38406 === qwebirc26270 is now known as XxKOLOHExX [09:25] tsimpson, http://pastebin.com/6JU8Ehdh - doesn't that look ok? [09:26] qwebirc26270, can you paste "rfkill list all"? [09:26] dddbmt: instead of using a symlink, you could make an alias within the Apache config. [09:26] e_t_, okay - should I just google "Apache alias" ? [09:26] dddbmt: yeah, that looks ok. try running "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload" and see if it works [09:27] tsimpson, just restarted seconds ago. [09:27] e_t_, mod_alias ? [09:28] I'm pretty sure mod_alias is loaded by default [09:28] 1 [09:28] dff [09:30] I installed lxde and xorg on a base server install and lxde seems to only have one huge font... what package do i need to install to get the usual avilable fonts? [09:30] dddbmt: tsimpson is probably right about mod_alias. See if this will work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643131/ [09:32] ok im trying to get eth1 up and working and dhcp running on eth1 but I cannot get it to work [09:32] http://paste.ubuntu.com/643133/ is what my /etc/network/interfaces looks like [09:33] and I setup the dhcp-server conf to listen on eth1 [09:33] any ideas [09:34] rooted-insideme: don't assign a gateway to eth1. It will screw up your routing big time to have more than one default gateway. [09:36] can i able to send mess to ip address connected with my system [09:37] messes should be cleaned, not shared. [09:37] rooted-insideme, interfaces shows static IP, what's your dhcpd.conf? [09:39] how to find the version of jdk i'm using [09:39] dli: one sec [09:40] Hi @ all [09:40] babu__, java -version ? [09:40] isconnect [09:40] hi, what is good gui tool for samba configuring? [09:40] can i able to send mess to ip address connected with my system [09:40] I have a small problem : the mounted devices in /media don't show up on my Desktop ! [09:40] tomek_: GADMIN is pretty good. Though your text editor is the best tbh [09:40] It's in xubuntu but I guess it's similar ? [09:41] i installed jdk 1.6...how do i install/upgrade to java 7 [09:41] xubuntu-noob, do them show up in thunar? [09:41] nope [09:41] xubuntu-noob, how do you mount them in /media [09:42] with fstab, like : //myserver'IP/myshare /media/myshare cifs username=uname,password=passwd 0 0 [09:42] dli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643142/ is the dhcp server config [09:43] It didnt work on startup though, I don't know why. So I unmounted and re-mounted with "sudo mount -t cifs etc" and nothing shows neither [09:43] that went well [09:43] dli: according everything I have read, im suppost to have a /etc/dhcp3 folder and I don't [09:44] rooted-insideme: Are you using 11.04? [09:44] Incarus6, sorry about the delay mate. how do you mean nvidia-settings configuration file saved properly? [09:44] debian 6 [09:44] i'm using huawei e220 usb modem to connect the internet how can i set up it for my ubuntu version 10.04 [09:44] but it's the same configuration as ubuntu [09:45] Hi! I'm looking for a way to bind a key stroke to