[00:00] <szal> what do I know?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> saruji: is your OS 64bit?
[00:00] <Jeruvy> saruji: you cannot install windows programs on linux, if you want to try it using Wine, that may well work
[00:00] <saruji> szal lol i'm just saying this game was officially made for linux
[00:00] <saruji> szal yes i am afraid that that is the issue
[00:00] <saruji> Jeruvy, this was made for linux
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> saruji: what is the output of:  uname -m
[00:01] <Jeruvy> saruji: I see.
[00:01] <saruji> ActionParsnip, yes i have 64 bit 11.04 ubuntu
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> saruji: and is the game 64bit?
[00:01] <saruji> ActionParsnip, no it is 32 bit, i see where I am going wrong, but is there a way to run 32 bit games in a 64 bit OS?
[00:02] <saruji> ActionParsnip,  like windows does
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> saruji: you may get joy with ia32-libs
[00:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^ that
[00:02] <saruji> ActionParsnip, sweet, sudo apt-get install ia32 ?
[00:02] <TheEvilPhoenix> saruji:  sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> saruji: this sort if thing is why 32bit is recommended
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> saruji: there are ways to run 32bit apps in 64bit OS though
[00:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> ActionParsnip:  saruji:  apt-cache search ia32-libs : ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems
[00:03] <TheEvilPhoenix> its there but i think its not in ubottu :p
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> TheEvilPhoenix: which repo is it in ?
[00:04] <uRock> Has anyone had any problems running xubuntu in a vbox?
[00:04] <TheEvilPhoenix> ActionParsnip:  um... lemme check in synaptic...
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> TheEvilPhoenix: apt-cache policy ia32-libs
[00:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> ActionParsnip:  universe
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> uRock: none here
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> TheEvilPhoenix: thanks :)
[00:05] <uRock> 8)
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> saruji: make sure universe repo is enabled and install ia32-libs
[00:05] <ozzloy> my desktop isn't updating the display except for the mouse.  how do i troubleshoot this?
[00:05] <ozzloy> i'm in a terminal right now on vt1
[00:05] <saruji> ActionParsnip,  got it installed
[00:06] <saruji> ActionParsnip, same error, thanks for trying
[00:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> saruji:  what error?
[00:06] <ozzloy> i can kill Xorg, but this has happened several times in the last few days.  i'm no Xorg expert so i don't know where logs are, or if there are any that would be helpful.  please give pointers like that if you have any
[00:07] <ozzloy> it seems to happen when coming back from screensave, but not consistently
[00:07] <ozzloy> a
[00:07] <saruji> TheEvilPhoenix, the same error as before: This installation doesn't support unknown on Linux / x86_64
[00:07] <snake__> I tried all of my possible drivers for my graphics card, and all of them make my display blurry. but even without them I still have a problem. some fonts(usually on web pages) loose some pixels. and it can be hard to read. can I fix this?
[00:07] <ozzloy> er, oops
[00:08] <snake__> I am on 10.04
[00:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> saruji:  then its detecting the OS itself probly via uname <something>
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> snake__: which video chip?
[00:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> saruji:  vbox an install of Ubuntu 32-bit?
[00:08] <snake__> ActionParsnip, Nvidia
[00:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> no, that'll be too tricky...
[00:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> saruji:  whatcha tryin to install anyways/
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> snake__: nvidia make a wide range of chips, which model?
[00:09] <saruji> TheEvilPhoenix, I'm trying to install SimCity 3000 for linux, yea I can go the VM route thanks
[00:09] <ozzloy> how about a suggestion of where to ask these questions other than here?
[00:09] <ozzloy> anyone?
[00:09] <michael> after suspending to ram, pulse audio volume controle is not working anymore
[00:09] <michael> does anyone know why?
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> ozzloy,  askubuntu.com or the forums
[00:09] <saruji> ozzloy, ubuntu forum
[00:09] <robin0800> ozzloy, screen savers can often crash the X server try turning them off and then if ok set them back on one at a time
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> snake__: what isthe output of:  lsb_release -d; lspci | grep -i vga
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> or just use the generic blank screen blanker..
[00:10] <Guest90351> after suspending to ram, pulse audio volume controle is not working anymore; can anyone help?
[00:10] <saruji> hello guys, confused: Additional Drivers reads: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system... But my NVIDIA acceleration graphics are showing a green dot?
[00:10] <ozzloy> Dr_Willis, saruji i'll try those places.  robin0800 i'll try that too.
[00:11] <saruji> also says "this driver is activated but not currently in use" ?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> saruji: can you give a pastebin of:  sudo lshw -C display; dpkg -l | grep nvidia; cat /etc/lsb-release        Thanks
[00:14] <snake__> ActionParsnip, Sorry, I took so long, I was trying to find it in my manuals. i didn't, but here's that output: http://pastebin.com/en0HNRVS
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> snake__: ok then run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     should be ok. You may need to run: sudo nvidia-xconfig   to make an xorg.conf and restart X or the system to apply
[00:16] <saruji> ActionParsnip, display http://pastebin.com/Jpu0Cnfi
[00:17] <szal> ActionParsnip: proper activation of the proprietary nVidia driver usually requires a reboot
[00:18] <AlanJCastonguay_> question; does ubuntu server support alternate cpufreq governers? Or is that an ubuntu-desktop-only thing?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> szal: you can just restart X too, quicker
[00:18] <dli> AlanJCastonguay_, I use cpufreq-utils
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> saruji: the command is longer than that. Please run the whole thing as one and pastebin the result please :)
[00:19] <cypha> is there a way to half-tab? (4 spaces)
[00:19] <saruji> ActionParsnip, lol ok i was not sure
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> cypha,  that would be a text editor setting
[00:19] <cypha> or can "shift+space" be able to do that?
[00:19] <cypha> Dr_Willis, can I do that in vim?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> cypha,  very likely yes.. you can do most everything else under the sun in vim.
[00:20] <snake__> how do you restart x? is that just log in log out?
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> given ive seen whole books written on vi and vim. :) its got an amazing feature set.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> snake__,  'sudo service gdm restart' is one way
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> snake__,  but ive seen cases where the nvidia drivers need a reboot to get going..
[00:20] <saruji> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/Fehc9ZLW
[00:21] <AlanJCastonguay_> dli: When I run cpufreq-info, it says "no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU" for all 4 cores. This is 2.6.32-32-generic-pae #62; stock
[00:21] <dli> AlanJCastonguay_, what's your cpu?
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> AlanJCastonguay_,  could be its not a feature in the pae kernel. How much ram you got?
[00:22] <AlanJCastonguay_> dli: 2 Intel Xeon 2.8; do you need the cpuid stuffs?
[00:22] <dli> AlanJCastonguay_, no, I just wonder whether xeon support cpufreq
[00:22] <AlanJCastonguay_> dli: Only 1GB stuffed. I don't know why it decided to use PAE.
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> saruji: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[00:23] <saruji> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[00:23] <dli> AlanJCastonguay_, I think you can specific which kernel package to use: apt-cache search linux-image
[00:24] <psusi> AlanJCastonguay_, the only difference between server and desktop is what packages come installed... mostly gui vs servers
[00:25] <AlanJCastonguay_> psusi: Same kernel image, though?
[00:25] <el_bb> so I am using the 11.04 alternate amd64 cd because i don't want X to be installed automatically. And the Installer just arrives at "Select and Install Software" and doesn't let me select anything?
[00:25] <dli> psusi, his hardware is server also
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> pae kernel - is normally for 32bit systems with more then 4gb of ram.
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[00:26] <psusi> AlanJCastonguay_, yea
[00:26] <dli> AlanJCastonguay_, I guess your xeon doesn't support cpufreq, after all, you paid for server speed, no need to save on electricity
[00:27] <AlanJCastonguay_> dli: Booo. I was actually hoping to just make it a little /quieter/ while sitting next to it for a few months. No need for this much CPU speed at the moment.
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> a quick google for xenon support cpufreq has a few interesting hits...
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> most interesting i saw so far -->  http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/lnxinfo/v3r0m0/index.jsp?topic=/liaai/cpufreq/CPUFreqDriver.htm
[00:28] <AlanJCastonguay_> Dr_Willis: reading, thanks.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> guide may be a little old.. but xenon does support cpufreq :)
[00:29] <glenn_> 2.16.133.55
[00:30] <AlanJCastonguay_> I don't have a cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver though;
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_driver
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> powernow-k8
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> on a  amd here...
[00:31] <AlanJCastonguay_> yeah; I don't have a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ psuedo-directory at all.
[00:33] <MMosx> hi, when I connect to vnc server on my ubuntu box I just see a blank desktop screen. I ask it to server :0 but can only connect to :1 with viewer
[00:33] <MMosx> what gives ?
[00:36] <glennie> my graphics are a bit unstable on Radeon RC410 natty, is there a better driver?
[00:36] <rhin0> do you have the proprietary driver -- system/hardware drivers -- detects proprietary drivers loads them if available
[00:37] <rhin0> proprietary means driver from ati
[00:37] <glennie> rhin0, says no proprietory drivers in use
[00:38] <rhin0> maybe check on the ati website glennie
[00:38] <jungleBust3r> join #5021
[00:38] <Zimsky> My system fan is always running at ~4000 RPM. Is there any way to control this via the terminal?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Zimsky: what make / model system?
[00:39] <Zimsky> It is a custom build server. I have Ubuntu Server 11.04 installed
[00:39] <glennie> rhin0, so not in the restricted drivers part of ubuntu then?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Zimsky: what motherboard?
[00:39] <rhin0> not sure I always just click on system administration hardware drivers from the menus
[00:39] <Zimsky> Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L
[00:40] <AlanJCastonguay_> Dr_Willis: I installed a non-PAE 2.6.35-25-generic, it also has no cpufreq modules in /lib/modules/.../kernel/, and nothing in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ or /sys/devices/system/cpu/cp0/cpufreq/
[00:40] <el_bb> how can I install a base system only? the alternate dvd just starting installing like every software that ever existed onto my 4GB USB drive...
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Zimsky: ok and is it the cpu fan?
[00:41] <Zimsky> It is SYS_FAN2
[00:41] <rhin0> maybe try xubuntu or lubuntu el_bb -- ubuntu for smaller capacity systems
[00:41] <histo> Zimsky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=846480
[00:41] <Zimsky> My CPU fan is controlled by BIOS
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Zimsky: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=955218
[00:42] <Zimsky> It's not overheating, I just need to control the fan speed so it is not always running at full RPM
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Zimsky: http://superuser.com/questions/67974/cant-control-case-fan-speeds
[00:42] <histo> Zimsky: please check the forum post it will explain checking the trip speeds
[00:42] <el_bb> rhin0: thanks. but the alternate installer used to let you choose what to isntall
[00:43] <AlanJCastonguay_> huh... even without cpufreq, the fans are all running slower after rebooting into the non-PAE kernel. Maybe it's configured differently... *hope*
[00:43] <histo> el_bb: you have to select install command line system
[00:43] <histo> el_bb: i believe you hit F6 at the boot menu to select more options
[00:44] <bazhang> el_bb, or use the minimal iso and build up
[00:44] <AlanJCastonguay_> Dr_Willis, dli and others: Thanks for the guidence.
[00:44] <bazhang> !minimal | el_bb
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Zimsky: looks liek a pain, you may need a hard adjuster to change it
[00:47] <el_bb> histo: yeah, "F4 Modes" let's you choose the command like system
[00:47] <el_bb> thanks, exactly what i was looking for
[00:47] <histo> el_bb: there ya go
[00:47] <hammoommah> morning peoples, i got a new hd today and i want to copy entire op system onto it from old one, whats the easiest way to do this?
[00:47] <hammoommah> copy *.* lol
[00:48] <Dulak> hammoommah: that is more complicated than it seems.  The easiest is to install fresh on the new drive, then copy over you /home dir from the old drive to the new one.
[00:49] <szal> Dulak: you're slow :P
[00:49] <Dulak> szal: yup
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> I'd use rsync
[00:50] <fishscene> hammoommah: Another option that I've had lots of success with is filezilla
[00:50] <hammoommah> ok coolies
[00:50] <Spudnut> Does anyone know what the best way to get the drivers for the canon pixma mp490 is?
[00:50] <hammoommah> what was first idea i got dc'd after i posted :(
[00:50] <fishscene> Dulak: hammoommah: that is more complicated than it seems.  The easiest is to install fresh on the new drive, then copy over you /home dir from the old drive to the new one.
[00:50] <histo> hammoommah: no you can copy the files
[00:51] <histo> hammoommah: I would recomend using something like rsync
[00:51] <hammoommah> kk
[00:51] <histo> hammoommah: or you could dd from one drive to the other but be carefull with that.
[00:51] <hammoommah> eparted cant drive copy?
[00:51] <hammoommah> dd?
[00:51] <Dulak> you said easiest, not fastest
[00:52] <paulie> does anyone know how to sync FF with google nexus?
[00:52] <Dulak> dd would be the fastest but you have to do some stuff to grow the partitions to match the new sizes you'd want on the new drive
[00:52] <hammoommah> i dont want to fresh install as i need all apps downloaded again :( so i'll try using rsync............ hello google
[00:52] <histo> hammoommah: dd if=/dev/sdx(of old drive) of=/dev/sdx(new hard drive)
[00:52] <fishscene> paulie: You need Firefox on the Nexus.
[00:53] <histo> hammoommah: if the new drive is bigger you'll want to use rsync
[00:53] <Charybdis> I'd suggest dcfldd over dd, it will show you your progress.
[00:53] <fishscene> clonezilla automatically grows the drive if the new drive is  bigger.
[00:53] <hammoommah> thanks @histo
[00:53] <Dulak> hammoommah: ok, hit me up when you screw it up and you are installing from scratch anyways.  G'luck.
[00:53] <histo> hammoommah: boot to a live cd partition the new drive. then rsync the old drives conetents to the new ones
[00:53] <hammoommah> good idea
[00:53] <histo> hammoommah: or clonezilla is a viable option if you are unsure
[00:53] <hammoommah> thanks for advice poeples
[00:53] <fishscene> NP o/  good luck mate.
[00:53] <hammoommah> ive heard thats pretty good
[00:54] <paulie> I have but the instruction FF give are different fishscene
[00:54] <fishscene> paulie: I'm unsure then. I set it up back in February and removed firefox a couple of months ago. =\
[00:55] <FriGiN> Jordan_U: yo yoda, you alive?
[00:55] <Spudnut> Does anyone know what the best way to get the drivers for the canon pixma mp490 is?
[00:55] <paulie> fishscene: ok np
[00:56] <FriGiN> Spudnut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1299260 check that post
[00:56] <histo> Spudnut: google search most likely
[00:56] <histo> Spudnut: or forum search
[00:57] <Spudnut> i had read that topic but sadly all of the link lead to a 404 on the canon server
[00:57] <bazhang> Spudnut, is that a printer? camera?
[00:57] <Spudnut> it is a printer
[00:58] <bazhang> linuxprinting.org database Spudnut
[00:58] <jimisrvrox> hey guys im trying to recover a usb drive that is not showing up with fdisk -l dmesg doesnt say aything about it either..what should I do next? I dont think I can run ddrescue bc I dont know the dev name and lsusb doesnt show it either..but it does power on but it does not get past the 'welcome' screen.
[00:59] <szal> jimisrvrox: iow, -> electronics recycling
[00:59] <arfbtwn> what do you mean, the welcome screen?
[01:00] <arfbtwn> but what szal said sounds about right...
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Spudnut: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MP_series/MP490.aspx?type=download&page=1
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Spudnut: canon site has drivers
[01:01] <Spudnut> sorry had looked in the us section and not found them along with links mentioned in the forums
[01:01] <jimisrvrox> arfbtwn: essentially usb music player. Put batteries in it. Turns on goes to welcome screen but never gets to where you can actually play anything.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Spudnut: I always use UK, they seem to nearly always have the drivers. If one server is down try another
[01:01] <arfbtwn> jimisrvrox: yup, sounds like it's dead as a dodo
[01:02]  * szal tried Canon UK once when helping someone out, but Canon Europe seems to be the better way to go
[01:02] <Phr3d13> jimisrvrox, look at the manufacturer's website, sometimes flashing the firmware to it fixes it
[01:02] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: i've found uk is more friendly to linux than mainstream us. 80% of all drivers ive found for ubu have been non us.
[01:02] <jimisrvrox> yeah thats what I thought I was just hoping there was some possible way that since it turned on I could recover stuff from it
[01:02] <Spudnut> thank you this is my first time setting up a linux system of any sort so trying to figure everything out
[01:03] <FriGiN> not that im an expert or authority by any means.
[01:03] <jimisrvrox> Phr3d13: ok but I cant get the drive to show up on fdisk...so how would you go about doing that?
[01:03] <FriGiN> jimisrvrox: he said check firmware updates on manu website, that has nothing to do with fdisk.
[01:04] <FriGiN> jimisrvrox: also if this is a mp3 player i think i saw you say, there may be a way either in manual, or via a pinprick button that will do a full reset of the OS.
[01:04] <jimisrvrox> yeah mp3 player..tried the reset button..nadda
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: I find the UK friendlier than the US generally ;)
[01:05] <Spudnut> TY all for the help have downloaded the drivers and will install them!
[01:05] <Phr3d13> 85% Downloading the updates for 11.04
[01:05] <FriGiN> jimisrvrox: have you verified just a press will reset? again manual from manu website is a good place to start atm
[01:05] <FriGiN> ActionParsnip: unless you are a pound short of a pint :P
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> FriGiN: guess it depends where you go
[01:06] <FriGiN> lol @ ActionParsnip
[01:06] <phrostbite> Does anybody have a suggestion for an app that will allow me to keep track of hours worked? I work from home and it would be nice to keep track some way thats easy and can export a spreadsheet or something like that.
[01:06] <FriGiN> honestly i just wanted to say pound short of a pint.
[01:07] <bazhang> !ot
[01:08] <paulie> A friend of mine had a virginmedia wireless router sent to them through the post , does anyone know the set-up page and how to password protect it?
[01:09] <bazhang> paulie, thats not really an ubuntu support question; access the router through a browser and check the manual
[01:09] <vivian> hello, I installed 11.04 and whenever I watch videos and turn up the volume to the maximum the sounds that comes out is terrible. What could be the problem?
[01:10] <bazhang> vivian, reduce the PCM in alsamixer a bit
[01:10] <vivian> the speakers are not busted that's for sure because the sound came out nice and smooth when I had windows 7 2 hours ago
[01:10] <vivian> bashang: you mean I can't use it at the maximum volume?
[01:10] <vivian> bazhang I meant :)
[01:11] <bazhang> vivian, do you want distortions and such?
[01:11] <bazhang> vivian, then try the alsamixer controls (if not)
[01:11] <vivian> of course not, but what's the point of having 100% of volume if you can't use it?
[01:11] <Phr3d13> vivian, windows only goes to 100% pulse lets you go to higher than 100%
[01:12] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i install frostwire on ubuntu x64 11.04?
[01:12] <bazhang> !frostwire
[01:12] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, ^
[01:13] <vivian> Phr3d13: yes, now that you mention it... it's over 100% but is there any kind of adjustment you can make to allow a PC to handle that much power? 100% on a laptop is not really that high :(
[01:13] <allowoverride> i get this error. i need help... http://pastebin.com/sYEcKc3R
[01:14] <Phr3d13> vivian, some audio players have eq plugins and such
[01:14] <Evanion> is there anyway i can protect an ip/host from beign blocked by denyhost? .. it keeps blocking my router (192.168.1.1) (have added it to the hosts.allow file)
[01:15] <vivian> Phr3d13: in my case I'm not really using any audio player, it's just youtube and even at 100% (not higher) I can hear this squeaking sound coming out :(
[01:16] <FriGiN> vivian: you sure you arent getting feedback?
[01:16] <vivian> FriGiN: what do you mean by "getting feedback"?
[01:17] <FriGiN> vivian: mic/speaker feedback
[01:17] <FriGiN> vivian: generally overmodulation will be clicks and pops not squeaks and squeals.
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> vivian: set volume a touch lower in alsamixer, then crank speakers
[01:17] <Technicus> Hello . . . how is the process for configuring Ubuntu to have multiple pointers?
[01:18] <vivian> FriGiN: I still don't get what you are saying ;(
[01:18] <FriGiN> bbiab, if anyone sees Jordan_U tell him i'll be back to try his ideas out
[01:18] <magn3ts> What is the *deal*?! Did I blaspheme Firefox too many times that they randomly make it freeze now
[01:18] <magn3ts> it has flat out hung for 20 seconds TWICE in the only five minuets I've used it ever.
[01:18] <vivian> ActionParsnip: I don't have external speakers, it's the internal ones in my laptop
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> vivian: what make / model?
[01:20] <Phr3d13> vivian, is there a volume wheel or button?
[01:20] <Phr3d13> 97% done downloading for 11.04 upgrade
[01:20] <bazhang> Phr3d13, no need for that
[01:20] <vivian> ActionParsnip: Gateway MS2285
[01:20]  * Phr3d13 has his fingers crossed
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> vivian: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[01:20] <robin0800> vivian, make sure any built in microphones are muted
[01:20] <szal> vivian: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_feedback
[01:21] <vivian> Phr3d13: button
[01:21] <vivian> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8d810561913ecbbad34eb79d9d1778e26c1fd620
[01:22] <allowoverride> i get this error. i need help... http://pastebin.com/SMbVeaaQ
[01:22] <allowoverride> bluetooth issue
[01:22] <bazhang> !here | allowoverride
[01:23] <allowoverride> its all in the pastebin
[01:23] <Phr3d13> allowoverride, did you try un/re-installation
[01:23] <allowoverride> yes
[01:24] <vivian> robin0800: I muted them but still :(
[01:24] <allowoverride> i try all i know, that is why im here lol
[01:24] <allowoverride> i give
[01:24] <vivian> szal: thanks ;)
[01:24] <allowoverride> do you know bluetooth trbshting?
[01:24] <allowoverride> it used to work, i believe the upgrade last year may have janked mods
[01:24] <yagoo> anyone happens to know what's a safe max temperature a raid NAS box internal can get? (I set my emergency shutdown if temp reaches 65Celsius)-- am wonder if anyone knows if harddrives can safely withstand 80Celsius.. sorry this may be off topic.. it's the only question i have, any #channel redirect appreciated thanks..
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> vivian: try adding: options snd_hda_intel model=laptop    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    reboot to test
[01:24] <allowoverride> typical when you do upgraded lol.. things break
[01:25] <histo> allowoverride: did you remove the bluez daemon?
[01:25] <vivian> do I copy and paste this: options snd_hda_intel model=laptop
[01:25] <allowoverride> yes
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> vivian: yes, put it in the file
[01:26] <allowoverride> vivian: ? me
[01:26] <histo> yagoo: I would look to your hard drive manufacturers specs to see what temp range
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> vivian: gateway build quality is far from good btw, you may need a bit more tweaking
[01:26] <histo> allowoverride: why did you remove the bluez daemon?
[01:26] <allowoverride> why not
[01:26] <allowoverride> its back
[01:26] <vivian> ActionParsnip: thanks let me try that
[01:26] <histo> allowoverride: well it won't work without it and that is your error
[01:26] <arfbtwn> cos you're trying to use bluetooth?
[01:26] <vivian> allowoverride: ???
[01:26] <allowoverride> histo: where did you find that info?
[01:26] <allowoverride> vivian: nevermind, thought you ment me
[01:27] <allowoverride> obviously
[01:27] <allowoverride> histo: where did you find that info? how do you know? site your source ;)
[01:28] <allowoverride> just to let you know, im not a noob, however, this bluetooth issue didnt exist prior to upgrading, i just noticed yesterday when i wanted to transfer some files via obex
[01:28] <vivian> ActionParsnip: do I add it at the end of the file?
[01:28] <cmyers> I am running natty, installed ratpoison, only to see that when I run a terminal, it runs GNOME TERMINAL.  wtf?  Does anyone know how to change this?
[01:28] <allowoverride> i have a dell, bout 2 yrs old, the bluetooth light is not on, which means, the kernel is most likely the issue.
[01:28] <allowoverride> some mod, maybe hcisomething,,
[01:28] <cmyers> I strings'd the binary, "gnome" isn't in it anywhere
[01:28] <cmyers> and the package contains no obvious rc file
[01:28] <histo> allowoverride: from your pastebin it can't locate the bluez daemon
[01:28] <allowoverride> histo: true
[01:29] <allowoverride> when i try to run it, i get that error
[01:29] <histo> allowoverride: when you try to run what?
[01:29] <allowoverride> i believe the hardware is not being recongnize
[01:29] <allowoverride> bluetoothd, did you know thats what needs to be run?
[01:29] <allowoverride> or sudo service bluetooth start, or sudo bluetooth start
[01:30] <allowoverride> all of which when i do status, say, its not running....
[01:30] <allowoverride> get it?
[01:30] <bazhang> !enter | allowoverride
[01:30] <allowoverride> yadda bazhang
[01:30] <allowoverride> no one else is talking
[01:30] <bazhang> allowoverride, pardon?
[01:30] <histo> allowoverride: service start bluez
[01:30] <Captainkrtek> ?
[01:30] <histo> !enter | allowoverride
[01:30] <allowoverride> histo: sb
[01:31] <histo> ?
[01:31] <allowoverride> do get all anal,, its just a chat box
[01:31] <bazhang> allowoverride, thats enough
[01:31] <histo> !attitude | allowoverride
[01:31] <allowoverride> i volunteer as well bazhang
[01:31] <allowoverride> either help or shut up
[01:31] <allowoverride> simple
[01:31] <bazhang> allowoverride, follow the channel guidelines
[01:31] <allowoverride> brb
[01:32] <histo> allowoverride: actually I believe bluetooth is now handled by udev. So you may need to do it a different way
[01:32] <aeiou> for a keyless ssh login, i want to add my .pub key to the remotes autorized_hosts right?
[01:32] <histo> allowoverride: please check this out see if it helps specifically the bluetoothd -u parts
[01:33] <odix> their wouldnt be any issues cloning a drive using dd to a hybrid drive correCt/
[01:33] <histo> aeiou: ssh-copy-id will put it in the appropriate place
[01:33] <histo> odix: other than the partition size will remain the same as the old drive
[01:33] <allowoverride> histo: i only have bluetooth , not bluez when i tab complete service.. start
[01:33] <odix> how is that bad ?
[01:34] <aeiou> histo, ah nice!
[01:34] <allowoverride> histo: opps i missed that... ill check
[01:34] <histo> allowoverride: yes as I said bluetooth is now part of udev so check that link
[01:34] <allowoverride> what link?
[01:34] <histo> allowoverride: I was thinking of the old way I haven't used bluetooth in ages.
[01:34] <histo> allowoverride: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,77723.0.html
[01:34] <histo> aeiou: yeah nifty little script
[01:34] <allowoverride> i got distracted, and didnt see a link, paste link again? i dont see it
[01:34] <vivian> ActionParsnip: hi, I'm back. I added that line at the end of the file (I don't know if the location matters) and the sound is still squeaking :(
[01:35] <histo> allowoverride: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,77723.0.html
[01:35] <vivian> ActionParsnip: is there any other tweaking you could think about?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> vivian: you'll need things to add to that file to make it good, i suggest you remove the added line as it isn't benefitting you
[01:35] <odix> histo: i can't get it to load
[01:35] <odix> histo, the operating system isnt even viewable it seems
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> vivian: look for your laptop model with regards to alsa-base.conf   you may find code to add like the one I gave you
[01:36] <allowoverride> histo: service bluez start bluez: unrecognized service
[01:36] <allowoverride> histo: bluez is already the newest version.
[01:36] <histo> odix: I would confirm that the data was actually copied and you didn't reverse the dd command
[01:36] <odix> it is copied..
[01:36] <histo> allowoverride: keep reading on that page as they sugest bluetoothd -u
[01:36] <vivian> ActionParsnip: in the forums?
[01:36] <odix> i dunno...its weird
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> histo: thats always a nightmare
[01:37] <allowoverride> i also chk'd bios/cmos and bluetooth is anabled
[01:37] <allowoverride> oh... ok,, brb
[01:37] <ChipDSnow> Hey all.  I'm looking to write a little script that will allow me to run a program under a different directory.  Any pointers on where I can read up on scripting under Ubuntu?
[01:37] <histo> allowoverride: if that doesn't work I would search the forums. I'm not that up to date with bluetooth
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> vivian: the web at large, even for different distros. alsa is alsa in any distro
[01:37] <ChipDSnow> <-- Noob, btw.
[01:37] <allowoverride> histo: ok, blueman is installed as well
[01:37] <vivian> ActionParsnip: got it, thanks for helping :)
[01:37] <allowoverride> brb
[01:37] <allowoverride> oh ok,,, histo thanks anyway,,, anyone else feel free to jump in with my bluetooth issue
[01:38] <ohzie> Hey everyone. Has anyone noticed weirdness with the BM4312 chipset in ubuntu? My wireless connects momentarily, and then dies, and the password stops working.
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: if you run: bluetooth  do you get an icon in the system tray?
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: when it drops. Run:  dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[01:38] <histo> !bluetooth | allowoverride
[01:39] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Thank you! I will try this! =]
[01:39] <allowoverride> histo: been there....
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ChipDSnow: do you mean run a command and have it manipulate files in a different directory? your question seems muddled
[01:39] <allowoverride> im gonna try bluetoothd -u
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: common causes of that sort of thing are busy wireless channel or ipv6 causing issues
[01:40] <allowoverride> histo: ok, that got sudo service bluetooth status to show, bluetooth is running,,,ill try blueman now
[01:40] <allowoverride> brb
[01:40] <ChipDSnow> I've discovered the joys of Nethack, and I want to drop to command line, type in one command, and have it run.
[01:40] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: I'm not using ipv6(that I'm aware of) and it works fine on the HP laptop and the Asus laptop.
[01:40] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: I'm suspecting the chipset is weird because I've just heard that sometimes the bm43xx stuff has been weird in linux.
[01:41] <allowoverride> histo: ok, blueman starts, nothing is listed, and the light on dell laptop is still off
[01:41] <ohzie> It is perfectly possible that I am incorrect.
[01:41] <allowoverride> i have the service to start, but not with -u per update-rc.d bluetooth enable
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: i'd disable ipv6 using boot option: ipv6.disable=1   it may help
[01:41] <allowoverride> brb
[01:41] <allowoverride> rebooting
[01:41] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Do I put that in my kernel line? In grub?
[01:41] <ohzie> or lilo
[01:41] <ohzie> it's grub now right?
[01:42] <wabznasm> ohzie: check first with ip a | grep inet6
[01:42] <ohzie> wabznasm: Yessir I have that turned on.
[01:42] <wabznasm> ohzie: worth turning off - can do it by boot as ActionParsnip said but also possible to do it another way that I did 2 days ago and now cant find...
[01:43] <ohzie> wabznasm: Where would I put that boot option?
[01:43] <Trasp> Hello, I'm trying to set up a lightweight system without gnome or kde or anything but I can't get into the "expert install" when trying to boot form a USB-drive with both usb-creator and unetbootin. I have no cd-drive and I don't know if the mobo has support for pxe (it should have but I should also be able to do it from my usb-stick ;p)
[01:43] <Trasp> any ideas?
[01:44] <wabznasm> ohzie: I let you foloow ActionParsnip advice on that one - I don't want to override what he is saying
[01:44] <wabznasm> ohzie: just thought I'd mention the check for ipv6 being active first in case you didn't have to disable
[01:44] <histo> Trasp: use the alternate iso and install a command line system
[01:44] <ohzie> wabznasm: No, I intend to use what he said "disable ipv6 using boot option ipv6.disable=1" I'm just asking where I would put that option.
[01:44] <bazhang> Trasp, or anything? just a system without X?
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: yes in the quotes with: quiet splash
[01:45] <wabznasm> function scrapeFreeSearchPages() {
[01:45] <wabznasm> Logger::getInstance('knd')->writeLog('debug', 'scrapeFreeSearchPages() called');
[01:45] <wabznasm> $page = 1;
[01:45] <wabznasm> / For debuggong
[01:45] <wabznasm> $bookUpdated = 0;
[01:45] <wabznasm> $bookUnchanged = 0;
[01:45] <FloodBot1> wabznasm: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <allowoverride> histo: rebooted yeilded same error message from pastebin - failed to apply network settings... conf file errors,,, blutooth netowrk unaable to connect
[01:45] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: ty!
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Trasp: oI recommend LXDE
[01:45] <histo> Trasp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems
[01:45] <Trasp> baxhang: Well, I'll have a openssh-server installed from the beginning and then throw in fluxbox
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: you will need to run:  sudo update-grub   to apply the setting
[01:45] <histo> allowoverride: I have no idea. Perhaps the forums?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Trasp: fluxbox is light too :)
[01:46] <Trasp> ActionParsnip, I'm using that one on my laptops actually, sweet, but I just need X to run an application on a hard working server so...
[01:46] <jimisrvrox> FriGiN: Found the firmware update for it. Windows recognizes that the usb is plugged in. However it does not show up in the devices and says that Windows could not recognize it and cant install drivers..but it seems to be that it should work being that it recognized that it was plugged in.
[01:46] <Trasp> histo, Thanks!
[01:46] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: I was about to put it in the grub.cfg
[01:46] <bazhang> Trasp, you may wish to try lxde then as ActionParsnip recommends
[01:46] <Trasp> will try the alternate cd
[01:46] <ohzie> am I doing it wrong?
[01:46] <histo> bazhang: he didn't want lxde
[01:46] <allowoverride> histo: there are 1400 plus linux users in here, someone will be able to help out. ;) thanks for trying, also, i think the -u setting doesnt apply since udev handles it now, which means i prolly need to update the rc.X scripts... sighs...
[01:47] <wabznasm> ohzie: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu.html
[01:47] <Trasp> bazhang, As mentioned, I allready do use it on a couple of my systems :)
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: no, put it in /etc/default/grub
[01:47] <histo> allowoverride: I would try reinstalling all the blue* stuff perhaps something got derped during the upgrade
[01:47] <bazhang> histo, he said gnome or kde
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: you NEVER edit grub.cfg
[01:47]  * ohzie shamefaced.
[01:48] <histo> bazhang: he just wants plain X
[01:48] <histo> bazhang: lxde is far from that
[01:48] <allowoverride> histo: k
[01:48] <bazhang> histo, as is fluxbox
[01:48] <allowoverride> could you repaste my pastebin to me
[01:48] <allowoverride> i rebooted
[01:48] <histo> bazhang: I didn't suggest fluxbox I pointed out that he could do a command line install. Then install X or whatever he wants
[01:49] <Trasp> Well then, what should I use to get a minimal x-system then?
[01:49] <bazhang> Trasp, alternate cd or minimal cd
[01:49] <Trasp> I'm not new to *nix but I don't use it too much either
[01:49] <bazhang> !minimal | Trasp
[01:49] <ohzie> Trasp: I'd recommend installing a server image. :|
[01:49] <histo> allowoverride: http://pastebin.com/sYEcKc3R
[01:50] <allowoverride> thanks histo, u cool ;)
[01:50] <ohzie> Trasp: and then installing from there
[01:50] <Trasp> Now i just asked what I should use to get "plain X" as you argued about ;p
[01:50] <th0r> Trasp: a 'minimal' x-system will have to include some kind of window manager. LXDE, XFCE, fluxbox, just a few of the lighter ones
[01:50] <allowoverride> histo: the 2nd paste bin, thanks, thats the first one
[01:50] <allowoverride> histo:  they diff, 2nd has more info
[01:50] <Trasp> th0r, As I thought form the beginning then :) thanks
[01:50] <cccaldas> guys
[01:50] <cccaldas> anyone use irc with terminal ?
[01:51] <invisiblek> is there a ck kernel for ubuntu with bfs?
[01:51] <Zimsky> irssi
[01:51] <bazhang> cccaldas, screen and irssi ?
[01:51] <cccaldas> hmmmmmm
[01:51] <cccaldas> is it run on mac ?
[01:51] <th0r> Trasp: I have used xfce for years and find it just about right. But I have to admit to a developing interest in lxde
[01:51] <bazhang> invisiblek, btrfs?
[01:51] <ohzie> bazhang: Butter Better Bee Tree
[01:51] <invisiblek> no, bfs: brain f*ck scheduler
[01:51] <DSee2> Hello, where are the network configuration files kept? There's nothing @ /etc/network/interfaces however eth0 and eth1 are connected??
[01:51] <bazhang> cccaldas, why ask here? this is ubuntu support
[01:51] <ohzie> cccaldas: screen+irssi = the win.
[01:52] <cccaldas> ohzie: thkx
[01:52] <cccaldas> bazhang: sorry, but the unix applications are basicaly the same... or not ?
[01:52] <histo> allowoverride: http://pastebin.com/SMbVeaaQ
[01:52] <bazhang> cccaldas, not
[01:52] <cccaldas> what runs on mac runs on linux, (most cases)
[01:52] <bazhang> cccaldas, try a mac channel, or check macports
[01:52] <odix> seems like you can't clone from a regular drive to a hybrid
[01:53] <histo> odix: what do you mean by hybrid drive?
[01:53] <cccaldas> bazhang: ok, sorry, but is it necessary ?
[01:53] <odix> hybrid hard drive
[01:53] <bazhang> cccaldas, its moot though, /msg alis list *mac* or whatever to get a support channel, its offtopic here
[01:54] <cccaldas> bazhang: ok
[01:54] <histo> odix: that shouldn't matter
[01:54] <ohzie> odix: Oh jeeze don't use those they're nasty. #personalopinion
[01:54] <odix> ya were having problems here
[01:55] <invisiblek> nvm, found this: https://launchpad.net/~chogydan/+archive/ppa
[01:55] <histo> odix: md5sum the data and see if it matches I garantee it's different something went wrong during hte copy
[01:56] <histo> odix: data is data it doesn't matter what it is put on.
[01:56] <odix> its something a little funnier, we tried with windows to, which has a backup recovery, and the recovery o/s loads but doesnt see the main o/s. something about write protection. i used dd to first copy the image to local hd then local hd to other hd
[01:57] <odix> ill keep ya posted
[01:57] <histo> odix: what dd command did you use exactly
[01:57] <odix> if and of
[01:58] <odix> no byte lengths
[01:58] <histo> odix: yeah if what and of what?
[01:58] <histo> odix: did you if the image and of the device?
[01:58] <odix> dd if=/dev/myhd of=/my/img.ing
[01:58] <odix> dd if=/my/img of=/my/newhd
[01:58] <histo> odix: that will make an image file of myhd
[01:58] <histo> odix: and that should write the image to the device
[01:59] <odix> ;\
[01:59] <histo> odix: I would check the md5sum
[01:59] <n1xNc0d3> !resetpanel
[01:59] <odix> ok, thanks
[01:59] <histo> odix: that will confirm that you data was written appropriately and matches.
[02:00] <histo> !md5sum | odix
[02:00] <awea-> im trying to install BT5 on my EeePC with 2 HDDs. 1 x 4gb and 1x8gb. I installed BT5 on the 8GB HDD. but it doesn't work when i try to boot?
[02:00] <histo> awea-: wront channel
[02:00] <bazhang> awea-, #backtrack-linux for that
[02:00] <histo> awea-: s/wront/wrong
[02:00] <odix> im going to very a whole hd and the img file, right ?
[02:00] <awea-> i can't post on #backtrack-linux
[02:01] <bazhang> awea-, not our problem
[02:02] <odix> awea, read the topic
[02:02] <odix> bbiab
[02:07] <tuanht> does anyone know how to run a script after ubiquity install complete? (d-i preseed/late_command not work for me)
[02:08] <madsailor> I'm dual booting ubuntu and win7.  If I mount the windows partition under ubuntu and delete some files will windows know that those files have been deleted when it boots next time, or will the OS not recognize that the files were deleted and still reserve space on disk for them
[02:08] <bazhang> madsailor, delete them from where, what files
[02:08] <clipse`> im having this weird issue, when i logged in today i typed w as usual and i saw a root login and then a second later it was gone.. http://pastebin.com/3p6XjAt5 -- any ideas?
[02:09] <rad_sci_guy> madsailor, windows will notice the files were deleted.  i do it all the time.
[02:09] <madsailor> I'm deleting files from the win ntfs partition, but I'm booted into ubuntu on the ubuntu partition
[02:10] <bazhang> madsailor, bad idea then. for the exact ramifications, try ##windows
[02:10] <madsailor> rad_sci_guy, thanks...so your disk space from the deleted files is recognized as being free when you boot back into windows
[02:11] <leeeroooy_j> madsailor: aslong as you dont delete system files it should be fine
[02:11] <madsailor> leeeroooy_j, nope...just random pictures
[02:11] <leeeroooy_j> madsailor: or anything that would cause windows to have problem if missing (those new antiviruses that BSOD you if not working are a good example lol)
[02:11] <rad_sci_guy> madsailor, i'm pretty sure.  I haven't removed huge amounts of files mind you.
[02:11] <canu-qumm> hey guys
[02:11] <leeeroooy_j> madsailor: just pictures? then you re good, do it
[02:12] <leeeroooy_j> aslong as they re not related to windows itself you can do what you want
[02:12] <rad_sci_guy> just don't delete files from the windows system folders or you'll be sorry :)
[02:12] <leeeroooy_j> but keep in mind what bazhang said about #windows if you think you want more info you better ask there
[02:12] <magn3ts> It'd be nice if QT apps obeyed fonts when using something besides the defaults... was that really not tested at all?
[02:13] <magn3ts> >_<
[02:13] <bazhang> magn3ts, was there an actual question in there?
[02:13] <bazhang> magn3ts, what apps, etc
[02:13] <Trasp> histo, thank! Exactly what I wanted, just like booting from pxe
[02:14] <clipse`> anyone have any ideas on my problem? or why this is happening? http://pastebin.com/3p6XjAt5
[02:14] <madsailor> leeeroooy_j, , rad_sci_guy, thanks.  Yup...won't be touching anything important to windows unless Im in windows.  Thanks for the info. I think I will check in #windows, but thanks for the input
[02:14] <Sargun_Screen> How do I disable X11/GDM on start-up
[02:14] <bazhang> !nox | Sargun_Screen
[02:15] <tuanht> does anyone know how to run a script after ubiquity install complete? (d-i preseed/late_command not work for me)
[02:15] <mrdeb> what is the gnome monitor program called
[02:15] <bazhang> mrdeb, top
[02:15] <mrdeb> no the monitorresolution like two monitors
[02:15] <bazhang> or htop if you like colors mrdeb
[02:15] <bazhang> !xrandr > mrdeb
[02:16] <bazhang> tuanht, whats that command supposed to do
[02:16] <bazhang> tuanht, ie how is it failing you
[02:17] <Defdef> Hello, I am using 11.04 desktop and am trying to connect to an FTP server. My windows box connects just fine using WinSCP, but the ubuntu box will not using the "Connect to Server" method and using FTP with creds. Is there something special I am supposed to be doing to get this to connect?
[02:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> Defdef:  try SFTP
[02:17] <TheEvilPhoenix> instead of FTP
[02:18] <necrodearia> Can someone pastebin the contents of /usr/share/i18n/locales/eo_US and /usr/share/i18n/locales/la_AU ?
[02:18] <tuanht> bazhang: i want run a script to copy some file that pre-generate in livecd to /target (install partition)
[02:18] <tuanht> bazhang: i use d-i preseed/late_command in ubuntu.seed file, but it's not work
[02:19] <bazhang> necrodearia, is that erroring out because cannot parse error?
[02:19] <tux-desktop> hey all
[02:19] <linux_is_my_hero> what does it mean when i try to install ubuntu and i get a bunch of colored lines? i do have a nvidea graphics card if that helps.
[02:19] <Will123456> necrodearia: http://pastebin.com/Ex5evB4m      http://pastebin.com/9qMHKfYs
[02:20] <necrodearia> Will123456, thanks
[02:20] <Will123456> necrodearia: no problem!
[02:21] <tux-desktop> what is every one doing
[02:21] <asdjaputra> tux-desktop, support
[02:21] <tux-desktop> k
[02:21] <magn3ts> bazhang, all qt apps don't obey gnome font preferences.
[02:21] <magn3ts> I guess my question is, how can I fix that.
[02:21] <bazhang> tux-desktop, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[02:21] <tux-desktop> i know sorry
[02:23] <Mark_benso> hi everyone, i hope such a question belongs here, i own an internet point and recently users have been complaining because my computers dont have flash and dont "open" some websites (i blocked them lol) one of the most required was megavideo, i actually blocked such websites and flash due to security concerns (although linux is not windows flash has its exploits that may target different OS'es and cause nastities), could anyone tell me if enabling f
[02:23] <Mark_benso> lash would be safe? and also, should i allow megavideo (this is the off topic question, again sorry if it doesnt belong here)?  you may want to know that most users use guest session and some limited account with ONLY "administrate system" not checked (so all other permissions are checked) and they all have firefox's default apparmor profile
[02:24] <rrgrzcool> can anyone provide their expertise with installing swftools on ubuntu?
[02:24] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, IMO, you can enable flash.
[02:24] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, if Flash is being used as an exploit... it would be through a megavideo video.
[02:25] <Osmodivs> Hello. What command do I use to know how many files do I have in one folder? like, I want to know how many fonts do I have in /usr/share/fonts/funfonts I know I have to use the find command, but whatś next?
[02:25] <bazhang> Mark_benso, are you using ubuntu?
[02:25] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, it will be through some SWF embedded somewhere inconspicuous. Better would be to use Chrome (Better plugin sandboxing) and have click-to-enable, so users will only use Flash when they explicitly need it.
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Mark_benso: flash should be fine
[02:25] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: so you say yes to flash but no to megavideo?
[02:25] <Mark_benso> bazhang: yes 11.04 if it matters
[02:25] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, I'm saying Chrome + Click-to-enable. I don't know why you're worried about megavideo any more than any other site.
[02:25] <Mark_benso> ActionParsnip: thank you very much, what about megavideo though? could i trust it?
[02:25] <bazhang> Mark_benso, using noscript and flashblock as well?
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> Mark_benso: never used it
[02:25] <magn3ts> Why is megavideo any less trustworthy than any other flash site Mark_benso
[02:26] <Mark_benso> bazhang: adblock plus + noscript, but in order to watch the vids they d have (i'd have in this case) to allow megavideo.com
[02:26] <magn3ts> Like I said, if Flash is used as an exploit... it will be on some random embed, not megavideo.
[02:26] <clipse`> so ubuntu 11.04 is out.. I might be running Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS -- is there a command or way I can type something as root to determine what exact version of ubuntu im currently running? uname -a doesnt show it.. and cat /etc/debian* just says squeeze/sid
[02:26] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: that was the most "complained" so im asking about this
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> clipse`: lsb_release -a
[02:27] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, meh, there's no reason to worry about Megavideo more than anything else, except for megavideo is usually used to host tv shows and movies and time wasters.
[02:27] <Osmodivs> clipse`: Why on earth are you still using 10.04?
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> clipse`: doesn't need root either
[02:27] <bazhang> Mark_benso, flash is insecure, megavideo does not make it more so
[02:27] <bridean> I have a question about linux administration.    Kind of detailed (I have no experience with linux admin).   Should I write up my question on pastebin and post it?
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: desktop and server are both supported still...
[02:27] <magn3ts> bazhang, this is much closer than any other font I've found. I don't know why this happens, but it bothers me, especially with my other fonts. http://imgur.com/Hszw8
[02:27] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: i looked the legal aspects and i should be fine
[02:27] <Mark_benso> bazhang: what do you mean?
[02:27] <clipse`> ActionParsnip thanks
[02:27] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, Didn't mean from a legal perspective.
[02:27] <clipse`> Osmodivs i don't know. im going to upgrade
[02:27] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i permanently disable nomodeset in 10.10?
[02:27] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, dude, stop worrying about megavideo. It's irrelevant, completely.
[02:28] <Osmodivs> clipse`: About time
[02:28] <allowoverride> histo: i removed all i could minus gnome-desktop which is dep'd to bluez*
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: add it in the quotes with: quiet splash  in /etc/default/grub   then run: sudo update-group
[02:28] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: then if by "time wasters" you mean stuff that makes them sit for long time i should be happy with it since they pay for it lol
[02:28] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, remove it from bootoptions?
[02:28] <histo> allowoverride: yeah now reinstall them and see if the problem persists
[02:28] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, oh, right on then.
[02:28] <allowoverride> histo: thats the plan lol bbiab
[02:28] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, if this is an internet cafe thing, there are way better ways to do this.
[02:28] <magn3ts> like, way,way,way better ways.
[02:28] <histo> allowoverride: bbiab?
[02:28] <allowoverride> histo: should i do a reboot?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> clipse`: Lucid desktop support dies at the same time as Natty desktop does. i'd just wait :)
[02:29] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: like?
[02:29] <mrdeb> thanks bazang the xrandr is good
[02:29] <histo> allowoverride: I would after reinstalling just to make sure udev doesn't throw a fit
[02:29] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, thin clients? a persistent boot with volatile partition that is wiped on every boot, a tempfs in memory, etc.
[02:29] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: it disabled it temporarily for install, but as soon as i restart its going to undo that. so what you're saying is i should do what you said after i install but before i reboot, and it should permanently fix it?
[02:29] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, then you can just let users do whatever they want.
[02:29] <billy2007> does anyone know where i can get ogg. files to use in frets on fire
[02:29] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, and it's all abandoned upon shutdown
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: adding it in that file will add it to all kernels and subsequent kernels, it will be used automagically
[02:30] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: some users want "permanent" accounts, and i think setting it up with thin clients would have a cost
[02:30] <magn3ts> billy2007, convert to them? They're just an audio file like wav, mp3, etc.
[02:30] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, um, there'd be some cost if you already have the machines, sure. Otherwise it could be much cheaper potentially. But if they want persistent accounts... is that for data storage or what?
[02:30] <allowoverride> histo: hmmm lets see what bbiab could possibly mean,,, well brb is be right back, so maybe bb = be back, and i = in and a = a, and hmmm lets see, m, could mean min? so bbiab = be back in a min... not to mention over the past 20 yrs i have coined many acronyms from in chat boxes around the world, and finally i prefaced it with a statement, that would imply i would be right back... does that help?
[02:30] <allowoverride> i should cut and paste that to gedit for future use... ;)
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> clipse`: user may as well keep Lucid, the support for both ends at the same time
[02:30] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, it could still apply, they have a persistent home directory. That'd work fine, especially if they can't install software via root.
[02:31] <billy2007> magn3ts, but then id have to configure the song myself to work in the game
[02:31] <Phr3d13> ok, i'm upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and decided to hit d to view diffs... how do i get back to the upgrade process?
[02:31] <magn3ts> billy2007, I see, I misunderstood. I'd Google, I doubt you're going to get much traction here.
[02:31] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: i already have the machines (been using them with ubuntu for 3 years now lol) and i cant tell (i dont know) what they need storage for besides bookmarks and preferences
[02:32] <billy2007> magn3ts, thats my problem ive searched all over google but i cant find anyfiles
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: press Q
[02:32] <allowoverride> note - #bluez-users are braindead...
[02:32] <Mark_benso> bazhang: what did you mean by saying that megavideo doesnt make flash more insecure? i dont get it perhaps its my english
[02:32] <allowoverride> bbiab
[02:32] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, lol, I think to get the best result, you might want to hire someone or detail the use-case scenarios and solicit opinion. There's a lot of different ways to do this effectively depending on exactly what you're trying to do and allow your users to do.
[02:33] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, Thank you!
[02:33] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, Flash is flash. Megavideo does not affect how safe it is. At all.
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: np man
[02:33] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, i think that should be stated somewhere in the upgrader
[02:33] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: so you say that whatever they go watch even if its some bestiality they wont mess up my machine?
[02:33] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: thanks :-) after its installed im definately gunna try that :-)
[02:34] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, how is the content of a video going to affect the safeness of your machine?
[02:34] <godofmischief> wow @ Mark_benso
[02:34] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, more importantly, they're not going to find beastiality on megavideo.
[02:34] <allowoverride> histo: ok, starting from the beginning, i have installed bluez, i did a sudo service bluetooth start, no error, but status says - bluetooth not running
[02:34] <Mark_benso> godofmischief: what?
[02:34] <Mark_benso> magn3ts: i dont know how megavideo handles their stuff tbh, thats why im asking lol
[02:34] <allowoverride> i will start with trying to get that bluetooth light on dell laptop working FIRST
[02:34] <linux_is_my_hero> mark_benso: one of the reasons to go from windows to linux is that linux doesnt have all the backdoors for programmers to exploit when setting up porno sites
[02:34] <bazhang> Mark_benso, this is getting way offtopic
[02:35] <magn3ts> Mark_benso, You really need to get past megavideo.
[02:35] <bazhang> Mark_benso, lets move on please, and follow the channel guidelines for content as well
[02:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  you need a bluetooth card in order to use bluetooth
[02:35] <magn3ts> linux_is_my_hero, that's not really accurate and is a massive over simplification.
[02:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  the light is there on most systems.  does lspci show anything?
[02:35] <Mark_benso> bazhang: i dont think that bestiality is an offensive term , and by that i meant any content that wouldnt be fine, but if its getting off topic ill just beg forgivness and stop
[02:35] <linux_is_my_hero> magnets: really? then why do i never have problems getting porno for me and my girl since switching to ubuntu?
[02:35] <Mark_benso> thanks everyone for your answers
[02:36] <mrdeb> ...
[02:36] <bazhang> linux_is_my_hero, lets move on please
[02:36] <linux_is_my_hero> bazhang: sure
[02:36] <allowoverride> TheEvilPhoenix: it used to light up, that should clear things up, not to mention bios/cmos option is available and enabled... its not that simple dude
[02:36] <Phr3d13> allowoverride, what's the model number of your laptop?
[02:36] <Mark_benso> I'd just like to point out that i actually own a polite internet cafe, not a 18+ one lol
[02:36] <magn3ts> linux_is_my_hero, You're clearly not capable of having a technical discussion about the merits of linux security or why your assumptions about computer safety are wrong, but please stop spreading misinformation.
[02:36] <allowoverride> i woudlnt be here if it was that simple
[02:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  what does lspci show?
[02:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> same question
[02:36] <bazhang> magn3ts, hes gone
[02:36] <allowoverride> Phr3d13: read above. that will null that request
[02:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  pastebin the output of lspci
[02:36] <DaSinge> Ok, Guy i have a problem :/
[02:36] <allowoverride> TheEvilPhoenix: sb...
[02:36]  * magn3ts stupid hidden join/parts
[02:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> magn3ts:  i dont think that's appropriate for here anyways
[02:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> !offtopic > magn3ts
[02:37] <DaSinge> If i have just bought a little netbook what ubuntu should i install?
[02:37] <magn3ts> TheEvilPhoenix, telling new users in Ubuntu that it's automatically safe isn't on-topic in #ubuntu?
[02:37] <bazhang> TheEvilPhoenix, thats enough, we are moving on
[02:37] <magn3ts> jfc
[02:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> oops nevermind
[02:37] <edbian> DaSinge: 11.04  It has a new interface called unity that works well on netbooks with small wide screens
[02:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[02:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  any pastebin info?
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> DaSinge: what is the specification of the system?
[02:38] <allowoverride> TheEvilPhoenix: it takes more time than 1 min
[02:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> DaSinge:  11.04 Desktop Edition, Xubuntu if you want a different interface/desktop manager
[02:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  wasnt sure ;)
[02:38] <DaSinge> Isnt there a netbook version or should just get the desktop
[02:38] <bazhang> !une | DaSinge
[02:38] <edbian> DaSinge: They only have 1 version onw
[02:38] <edbian> and one for servers
[02:38] <allowoverride> i usually if not always try to find out info linux users ask for when i ask for help... as i do the same
[02:38] <allowoverride> brb
[02:38] <edbian> so I guess 2 versions...
[02:38] <bazhang> DaSinge, choose classic at login if you dont like unity
[02:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[02:39] <edbian> bazhang: He doesn't even have it installed yet :)
[02:39] <allowoverride> TheEvilPhoenix: its a broadcom copr BCM43224
[02:39] <Phr3d13> allowoverride, trying to get info to help you, what brand/model of bluetooth do you have?
[02:39] <allowoverride> kernel mod is wl
[02:39] <allowoverride> its onboard Phr3d13
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> DaSinge: just grab the desktop one (not sure of a netbook flavour), its netbook friendly
[02:39] <bazhang> DaSinge, get the regular desktop version for all
[02:39] <allowoverride> i do not believe the OS or lscpi will see it if it is not being recognized
[02:39] <allowoverride> i could be wrong
[02:39] <DaSinge> And Unity should work 'cause i got ubuntu 11.04 on a PC but it says there something worng with the graphics
[02:39] <Phr3d13> allowoverride, no, really? what brand is it? do you know a model number?
[02:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  that's a wireless card.
[02:40] <allowoverride> scroll up Phr3d13
[02:40] <allowoverride> i know that
[02:40] <allowoverride> its a combo w/nic
[02:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:   i want the entire output
[02:40] <Phr3d13> i left, it's not there for me
[02:40] <DaSinge> on the PC i have a Nvida GeForce 8800
[02:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  of lspci.  not just that line
[02:40] <TheEvilPhoenix> allowoverride:  very rarely are they on the same card.
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> DaSinge: sweet, nvidia love linux :D
[02:40] <bazhang> DaSinge, thats supported fine with the open drivers
[02:40] <allowoverride> its a dell ;) lol
[02:40] <Polah> TheEvilPhoenix, ActionParsnip: There is no X editions since 11.04. There is just 11.04 which should work fine on any platform.
[02:40] <Phr3d13> a dell what?
[02:41] <DaSinge> I KNOW BUT UNTIY DONT WORK!!!!!
[02:41] <bazhang> DaSinge, no caps please
[02:41] <DaSinge> soz
[02:41] <ActionParsnip> DaSinge: install nvidia-current  then reboot
[02:41] <DaSinge> ok i will do Thank you!
[02:42] <szal> DaSinge: and in between run 'sudo nvidia-xconfig
[02:42] <szal> '
[02:42] <TheEvilPhoenix> wow he doesnt listen... i told him to PASTEBIN it >.>
[02:43] <revcld> hi i downloaded openbox on my ubuntu gnome but how can i browse the files -_-
[02:43] <allowoverride> http://pastebin.com/K40dcRNv
[02:43] <jrib> revcld: openbox, the window manager?
[02:43] <allowoverride> wow i didnt know you could get excess flood boot in pm? lol.. sorry, theres the link
[02:43] <bazhang> revcld, you selected what a t login window
[02:43] <DaSinge> Thank for your guys help(the bast)!!
[02:43] <DaSinge> best
[02:43] <revcld> Openbox session
[02:44] <rrgrzcool> can anyone help with an swftools install?
[02:45] <rrgrzcool> i've tried following every example out there
[02:45] <bazhang> rrgrzcool, from where
[02:45] <bazhang> rrgrzcool, further, why do you need it
[02:46] <rrgrzcool> hi bazhang, i'm trying to install it local on an ubuntu vm
[02:46] <rrgrzcool> and i'm using gfx to convert pdfs to images
[02:46] <szal> rrgrzcool: the question was, _from_ where, not _to_ where..
[02:47] <asdjaputra> how to cloak IP address in freenode?
[02:47] <rrgrzcool> from local to local... i'm from nyc if that's what you're asking
[02:47] <magn3ts> asdfasdfa, #freenode or google.
[02:47] <bazhang> asdjaputra, /join #freenode
[02:47] <bazhang> !register | asdjaputra
[02:47] <magn3ts> asdfasdfa, sorry for the notify, close usernames.
[02:47] <IdleOne> magn3ts: the answer was #freenode. Please don't tell people to google it.
[02:47] <bazhang> asdjaputra, register then ask for a cloak in #freenode
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> !cloak | asdjaputra
[02:48] <magn3ts> jesus christ. Googling it would probably be faster than going to #freenode, asking, and waiting for the response
[02:48] <asdjaputra> i did register my nickname, and i did ask for a cloak, but they didn't answer
[02:48] <szal> rrgrzcool: no, I'm asking where you got it from and in what form/format
[02:48] <magn3ts> everyone is rules crazy tonight. Instead we've had three factoids and 5 messages on the topic now.
[02:48] <IdleOne> magn3ts: you are free to start your own channel without rules.
[02:48] <allowoverride> magn3ts: thats every day all day and all night
[02:48] <sroy2> hi, I just upgraded 11.04 from the default video drivers to nvidia and the screen is now blank (+ cursor) after it boots... any ideas?
[02:48] <magn3ts> What rule does that violate other than IdleOne's nitpicking?
[02:49] <IdleOne> !google
[02:49] <allowoverride> IdleOne:  is top of the list for analness
[02:49] <allowoverride> just my two bits ;)
[02:49] <magn3ts> sigh, I suppose there's a factoid.
[02:49] <rrgrzcool> szal: oh okay. well, i've tried from their own site, wget, git... they are tar.gz
[02:49] <allowoverride> check the logs and you will see pattern repeat itself ....
[02:49] <DaSinge> factiod?
[02:49] <magn3ts> allowoverride, I wasn't interested in personal attacks, I've just had 3/3 conversations turn meta in the 15 minutes I've been here.
[02:50] <allowoverride> oh im into personal attacks when they materialize
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> DaSinge: its the things ubottu spits when we trigger her
[02:51] <lahwran> anyone recommend a better image viewer?
[02:51] <DaSinge> oh ok thkx
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: imagemagick
[02:51] <bazhang> lahwran, better than what
[02:51] <lahwran> default 10.10
[02:51] <lahwran> which is eyeofgnome iirc
[02:51] <asdjaputra> #ubuntu-bots lahwran, and ask BestBot
[02:51] <wabznasm> lahwran: better how? quicker, smaller, more featured?
[02:51] <lahwran> more featured
[02:51] <bazhang> lahwran, the image viewer works well
[02:52] <p_res> use feh for image viewing.
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: imagemagick has all the transform power in imagemagick, depends what features you need
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> p_res: nice
[02:52] <szal> !pm | rr
[02:52] <bazhang> lahwran, more featured, as in what features
[02:52] <szal> erm, @ rrgrzcool, I meant
[02:52] <p_res> it's all i use. ;-)
[02:53] <rrgrzcool> @szal ahh this?
[02:53] <asdjaputra> p_res, its lightweight, not more-featured
[02:53] <p_res> what features required?
[02:53] <asdjaputra> lahwran, dragon?
[02:54] <allowoverride> anyfoo,,,
[02:54] <allowoverride> back to my issue
[02:54] <asdjaputra> lahwran, oops i meant gwenview
[02:54] <bazhang> allowoverride, yes?
[02:54] <asdjaputra> allowoverride demands! we have to obey
[02:54] <allowoverride> i dont like you bazhang, just a heads up.
[02:54] <allowoverride> and i havent even talked to you befre
[02:54] <allowoverride> lol
[02:54] <bazhang> allowoverride, just follow the channel guidelines
[02:55] <rrgrzcool> sigh... can anyone help with swftools? this is driving me insane for days
[02:55] <allowoverride> bazhang: we should meet up sometime and talk shop, i think you will differ your pre-disposed opinions
[02:55] <asdjaputra> what dell type you have anyway, allowoverride
[02:55] <bazhang> rrgrzcool, to edit pdf or extract pdf images to images
[02:56] <allowoverride> asdjaputra: xps, its a dual nic/bluetooth trust me
[02:56] <allowoverride> k
[02:56] <allowoverride> onboard
[02:56] <asdjaputra> my bluetooth on vostro 1400 works fine
[02:56] <asdjaputra> can you tell me the bluetooth model?
[02:57] <DaSinge> oh ya and what about waireless drivers does ubuntu support that?
[02:57] <DaSinge> wireless"
[02:57] <asdjaputra> DaSinge, yes
[02:57] <bazhang> rrgrzcool, in channel please, thanks
[02:57] <rrgrzcool> sorry, i'm here
[02:57] <asdjaputra> DaSinge, including proprietary ones, if you enable restricted extras
[02:58] <allowoverride> asdjaputra: i do NOT have your laptop
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> DaSinge: depends on the wireless chip
[02:58] <asdjaputra> lsusb shows?
[02:58] <rrgrzcool> so yeah, i've installed it before, on other servers 0.9.1
[02:58] <mrdeb> what is crond
[02:58] <allowoverride> asdjaputra: i also do not have your OS most likely. there is much much more to it than comparing it to another disparent system
[02:58] <bazhang> mrdeb, the cron daemon?
[02:59] <allowoverride> not to mention, it used to work, prior to numerous kernel upgrades i know i should do until like months later
[02:59] <mrdeb> yes
[02:59] <mrdeb> do you need it
[02:59] <IdleOne> allowoverride: what OS are you running?
[02:59] <ironfroggy> when i boot i am dropped into a grub prompt, rather than a menu or booting into my OS
[02:59] <bazhang> mrdeb, to do what; what is your exact issue
[02:59] <ironfroggy> can anyone tell me how i can get this corrected?
[03:00] <DaSinge> I have a Atheros AR5B95 Wireless Network adapter
[03:00] <allowoverride> 10.10 mav
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> ironfroggy: I'd boot to live CD and reinstall grub2 there
[03:00] <allowoverride> IdleOne: 10.10 maverick
[03:00] <bazhang> DaSinge, thats supported, yes
[03:00] <asdjaputra> DaSinge, that's universally (i think) works
[03:00] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, do you get an error message?
[03:00] <ironfroggy> ActionParsnip: ive run grub-install on the device
[03:00] <ironfroggy> magn3ts: no
[03:00] <DaSinge> woah...thz
[03:00] <jimisrvrox> Thank you to whoever suggested the firmware update. Got my mp3 player back up and running after more than a year. Thanks.
[03:01] <bullgard4> !jockey
[03:01] <magn3ts> !grub | magn3ts
[03:01] <asdjaputra> allowoverride, not again supported
[03:01] <allowoverride> IdleOne: im thinkin the additional drivers or Networkmanager has something to do with it
[03:01] <allowoverride> asdjaputra: ? huh
[03:01] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: after install it wanted to reboot and wouldnt let me try the os so now what do i do? every time it boots with the same graphics driver error.
[03:01] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, the !grub factoid can give you reinstall instructions, you may have run grub-install incorrectly, etc.
[03:01] <allowoverride> asdjaputra: what are you refering too? that totally confused my linux mind...
[03:01] <ironfroggy> !grub
[03:02] <asdjaputra> allowoverride, nm
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: you'll need to edit the boot options for the liveCD to add the nomodeset
[03:02] <allowoverride> IdleOne: let me know your thoughts, i know you have a clue about these matters.
[03:02] <allowoverride> ill bbiab
[03:02] <ironfroggy> magn3ts: that is what i have already done, in fact.
[03:02] <allowoverride> pm me if you like
[03:02] <DaSinge> also is it possiable that a file got corrupt when downloading ubuntu
[03:03] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, are you in a multi-drive scenario?
[03:03] <ironfroggy> i was
[03:03] <ironfroggy> i am trying to remove an old drive and only use one
[03:03] <asdjaputra> DaSinge, yes
[03:03] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: how do i do that?
[03:03] <freeone3000> DaSinge: Always possible. Check the md5sum.
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | linux_is_my_hero
[03:03] <ironfroggy> which is why i'm tring to boot on the MBR of the remaining drive
[03:03] <DaSinge> md5sum?
[03:03] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, it's possible that grub is installing on the wrong drive or that its not finding /boot properly, etc.
[03:03] <asdjaputra> DaSinge, i meant the ubuntu ISO got corrupt
[03:03] <linux_is_my_hero> !nomodeset | linux_is_my_hero
[03:04] <ironfroggy> magn3ts: i have removed the other drive. right now there is only one.
[03:04] <DaSinge> yes like a file in the ISO
[03:04] <freeone3000> DaSinge: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:04] <bazhang> !hashes | DaSinge
[03:04] <rak85> hi guys!
[03:04] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: it won't boot to ubuntu, so how do i edit files?
[03:04] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, you removed the drive before executing these steps? I think those steps should regenerate the grub configuration files, you may need to do that... do you have a /boot on the remaining drive?
[03:05] <linux_is_my_hero> rak85: hey :-)
[03:05] <uRock> hi
[03:05] <IdleOne> allowoverride: take a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1101204 little old but may have some helpful hints
[03:05] <ironfroggy> magn3ts: i do. i booted into the liveCD and i did the grub install on /dev/sda from there and yes i have /boot on the new disk
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: you will need that link to edit it to get to the desktop, you can then edit the file and it will stick
[03:05] <allowoverride> IdleOne: thanks for researching, ill chk it out...
[03:05] <ironfroggy> it seems like i have grub installed but it has no menu/list of kernels to boot
[03:06] <ironfroggy> so it just dumps me to its prompt
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> ironfroggy: you are using grub2 which uses config files and generates grub.cfg
[03:06] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, have you run update-grub2 ? you might give that a shot.
[03:06] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, does it error without a proper grub.cfg though? or does it maybe drop him at this empty prompt?
[03:07] <ironfroggy> i will try that
[03:07] <Switchcat> Q: How can I tell if my laptop's built-in card reader is working and/or mount it when I put a card in?  I checked dmesg and didnt see anything obvious but I am not sure what to look for.
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: yes it will error as there is no config to read
[03:07] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, according to what ActionParsnip, I don't think that will probably fix it, but it shouldn't hurt either.
[03:08] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i see: :-)
[03:08] <ironfroggy> o
[03:08] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: much appreciated. 10.10 is way faster than 11.04 and ive been meaning to do this but havent had the time until NOW. :-)
[03:08] <ironfroggy> how would i go about resetting the menu list for grub?
[03:08] <ironfroggy> i am thinking that is what i need
[03:09] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, that command "should automatically detect the drives and configure grub appropriately".
[03:09] <ironfroggy> but how / where does it find the kernels?
[03:09] <magn3ts> In what regard is 10.10 faster than natty?
[03:09] <magn3ts> ironfroggy, what do you mean? It scans for them presumably?
[03:10] <ironfroggy> well its done that and it didnt find anything. i am trying to figure out how to do it myself
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: depends on config with regards to speed. My 11.04 LXDE based system boots and runs faster than my laptop which has a lot more grunt running gnome
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: the statement is none-sensical
[03:11] <Phr3d13> just so everyone knows: upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 doesn't fix a vt6410
[03:11] <allowoverride> whats the command to show bios info in cmdline? i forgot... thanks
[03:11] <linux_is_my_hero> yeah i would think 11.04 would be faster on my machine. but it wasnt.
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: not necessarily true that newer = faster
[03:11] <magn3ts> and linux is magically safer because it doesn't have "holes".
[03:11] <linux_is_my_hero> action parsnip: my desktop is faster with 10.10, my laptop won't run 11.04, and my tablet seems to like 11.04 better than 10.10
[03:12] <allowoverride> dmicode?
[03:12] <allowoverride> lshw? i forgot i swear
[03:12] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: do i add "nomodeset" inside the same quotes as "quiet splash," or on its own command line function?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: all depends on config. I bet if you install a lighter DE it will run faster tnan Maverick
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: yes inside the quotes
[03:13] <linux_is_my_hero> what's a "DE"?
[03:13] <asdjaputra> desktop environment
[03:13] <allowoverride> found it, sudo dmidecode |grep -i smbios
[03:13] <linux_is_my_hero> is that the same as a "GUI"?
[03:13] <asdjaputra> linux_is_my_hero, it consists the GUi you use
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: lxde uses a hell of a lot less resources than gnome and compiz, making it faster
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: the release is still Natty
[03:14] <joshz> I'm having a graphics issue with Ubuntu 11.04 on a Dell Inspiron 8600 (graphics card: AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 9000).
[03:14] <joshz>   It boots off the install disk without any problem whatsoever, but when I try to run off the computer itself after (successfully) installing, it hangs on the desktop, with windows flashing up occasionally for fractions of a second.  If I press ctrl+alt+f7, it gets me into a distorted shell (garbage characters.)
[03:14] <joshz>  I just rebooted, and now am greeted with an all-white screen with black text on it that looks vaguely like emoticons.
[03:14] <joshz> What can I do to resolve this problem?
[03:15] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: im interested :-)
[03:15] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, though it looks like Vista
[03:16] <armelTest> anyone ever use ubuntu on an arm7?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: what does?
[03:16] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, lxde
[03:16] <asdjaputra> the panel, the folder icons
[03:16] <asdjaputra> etc.
[03:16] <armelTest> well im having probs getting build-essential
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: depends on theme
[03:16] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: why is linux telling me grub is read-only?
[03:16] <magn3ts> looks more like windows 98 than vista.
[03:16] <bazhang> armelTest, try #ubuntu-arm
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: you need to run:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: the file is owned by root
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> armelTest: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[03:17] <armelTest> ok thx
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: what, because it's at the bottom?
[03:17] <allowoverride> interesting findings on http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43, there is reference to: Bluetooth coexistence protection, if the bluetooth card is physically  connected to the wireless chip. (Does not protect against external BT  dongles)
[03:17] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, no, the color of the panel is black and light black, sorta resembles Vista
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: depensd on theme. I kill off lxpanel ond run unity2d. It's still lxde, looks like most people's natty install ;)
[03:17] <allowoverride> which means, this BC w/nic is bluetooth'd.
[03:18] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, ah
[03:18] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: ah, Gedit.
[03:18] <allowoverride> that would explain the network error before desktop is up fully. i still need to get bluez to run and the light on dell laptop will not light up unless the kernel doesnt see it
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/MyScreenshot3.png?t=1276984007  that's my Lucid LXDE system from back in the day
[03:19] <roasted> Does anybody know if rhythmbox is still in active development?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: running wbar :)
[03:20] <asdjaputra> wow bar
[03:20] <asdjaputra> laugh out loud
[03:20] <asdjaputra> since lol isn't allowed
[03:20] <bazhang> !ot
[03:20] <bazhang> roasted, not certain, seems to completely dropped from 11.10 though, in favor of banshee
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: nothing like windows :)
[03:21] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: looks good :-)
[03:21] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: once i edit grub i can just restart, right?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> roasted: I can recommend deadbeef :)
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: as long as you run:  sudo update-grub   first
[03:22] <billy2007>  hi i cant seem to copy a folder into A game iit says permission deined any ideas
[03:22] <bazhang> billy2007, what game, what command
[03:22] <allowoverride> darn i wish i could write my own drivers....
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: run:  gksudo nautilus
[03:22] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: well so far so good :-) how do i change from gnome to lxde?
[03:22] <joshz> Update: A second reboot got me to see the desktop, though ctrl+alt+f7 now gets me to the garbled emoticon-like screen. Pressing ctrl+alt+f1 then brought me to a screen with just one small pixellated block of the desktop and a cursor.
[03:23] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: what desktop is that? kde? flux?
[03:24] <allowoverride> might be gnome?
[03:24] <linux_is_my_hero> its his lxde machine
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: LXDE + openbox
[03:24] <allowoverride> nice
[03:24] <allowoverride> using NetworkManager ic lol
[03:24] <magn3ts> I worry that people choose DE and window mangers based on screenshots rather than featuers and taking the time to learn how to install a font pack...
[03:25] <Tigerboy> anyone know why, suddenly, unless I desable CSF I cannot FTP to my webserver
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: its was there, i use wicd now
[03:25] <allowoverride> i used to use wicd and switched back to NM dont ask lol
[03:26] <allowoverride> actually now that i think about it, that is what i used last, when the BCom w/nic i have used to work with bluetooth. i might just do that...
[03:26] <allowoverride> bbiab
[03:27] <armor-64> hi guys! i want to run xhydra but i cant!do you know a way to do this?
[03:27] <magn3ts> I've only ever found wicd to be helpful when dealing with overlapping wifi spots with the same essid... because NM isn't smart enough to pick the one with the highest strength for some reason (makes sense, it remembers via bssid instead)
[03:27] <armelTest> ok no one was up in -arm. this maybe a simple question... can anyone tell me what this means
[03:27] <armelTest> Package build-essential is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another sourceE: Package build-essential has no installation candidate
[03:27] <Tigerboy> yes build essential has mysteriously disappeared
[03:28] <armelTest> lol thats what i thought!!
[03:28] <armelTest> how does that happen?
[03:29] <Tigerboy> most likely bill Gates
[03:29] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: thanks for your help :-)
[03:29] <armelTest> lol bg = bill gates = bubble guts
[03:31] <magn3ts> for example, there's no reason you can't have this within gnome: http://k.min.us/iemoIQ.png
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/build-essential
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: to have what?
[03:31] <magn3ts> something that doesn't look like stock unity.
[03:31] <Tigerboy> ActionParsnip: It should be in the repos I have noticed it missing at least for a week I think.
[03:32] <magn3ts> just based on the "oooh vista folders" and then "I want LXDE" comments... I get all :S
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Tigerboy: try:  sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy build-essential
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: the OS is flexible so it can have what the user wishes
[03:32] <magn3ts> actually, do other DE's have support (even community support) for app-indicators? I've come to quite like them. It's such a nice fix for gnome-applets.
[03:33] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, oh sure, I just don't think everyone gets that. And instead of chaning icons, they rush to a DE that has a default icon set they like.
[03:33] <roasted> ActionParsnip, deadbeef... as in, a media management application???
[03:35] <dan__> ladies.
[03:35] <dan__> Who wants to see me penis.
[03:35] <dan__> ?
[03:36] <dan__> My name is terrence urich
[03:36] <magn3ts> be gone
[03:37] <larie> hello
[03:37] <larie> i need ERwin like app
[03:37] <larie> i need to open *.erwin file
[03:37] <armor-64> hi guys! i want to run xhydra but i cant!do you know a way to do this?
[03:37] <larie> or er1 file
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> roasted: yeah its nice
[03:37] <magn3ts> larie, that doesn't seem very likely.
[03:37] <joshz> The strange thing is that I can run the install, boot off the live cd, and use the live cd without graphics issues at all.
[03:38] <larie> magn3ts: what likely? :)
[03:38] <Tigerboy> ActionParsnip: that would work if it was saved on my system but I've had a couple rough starts as I try to get this one laptop up with 11.04... Hopefully buildessentials will reapear soon... heck Ill find it on the net.
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> armor-64: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get -y nstall pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/lsb-release
[03:38] <magn3ts> larie, I don't think you're going to find linux software that will read proprietary files.
[03:38] <larie> magn3ts: i see
[03:38] <magn3ts> larie, there are alternatives to erwin, but not nearly as professional, and like I said, they won't read erwin files.
[03:38] <allowoverride> before i try wicd, what is the dpkg method to install from cmdline - NetworkManager back, since I wont be able to use wireless if i disable/uninstall NM to use Wicd and return. thanks!
[03:38] <joshz> Could there be a driver problem, or something? Based on the fact that the system displays the graphics fine off the cd, it seems weird that it would fail when not on the cd.
[03:39] <roasted> ActionParsnip, it seems very simple. does it do playlist syncing to ipods and such?
[03:39] <larie> magn3ts: $(file 1.erwin) shows me -> "data"
[03:39] <magn3ts> larie, you are talking about the UML/diagramming software erwin right?
[03:39] <mARCUs> thank goodness for chats
[03:39] <mARCUs> that dont suck
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> roasted: no idea, i don't use apples garbage. my sense outstrips my wallet
[03:39] <allowoverride> sorry guys/gals i come from freebsd and redhat/centos lol
[03:39] <magn3ts> larie, I'm just guessing, it may be reversable or human readable, but I doubt anyone's done it.
[03:39] <larie> magn3ts: idk :) guy from my office wants to open ERwin file
[03:39] <allowoverride> just a quick one liner, that would help
[03:39] <roasted> ActionParsnip, you and me both. I'm just trying to get acquianted with more media players since I have a few friends who might switch to linux IF they can find something to suit their ipod needs :P
[03:39] <magn3ts> larie, when I see something like erwin's website... I immediately think VirtualBox+Windows until you can get away from that application, if that's even possible.
[03:40] <allowoverride> some cmd i can use that will not ask the net for info to load a prog/util locally
[03:40] <roasted> ActionParsnip, just trying to get more well educated on which apps I can recommend them.
[03:40] <larie> magn3ts: he can't open it on windows7 but he has ubuntu on laptop
[03:40] <magn3ts> roasted, android phone + amazon clouddrive = bliss.
[03:40] <larie> magn3ts: what apps are similar to ERwin?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> roasted: i'd either check its feature list, or just install it and test :)
[03:40] <allowoverride> before i try wicd, what is the dpkg method to install from cmdline - NetworkManager back, since I wont be able to use wireless if i disable/uninstall NM to use Wicd and return. just a quick one liner, that would help, some cmd i can use that will not ask the net for info to load a prog/util locally
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> larie: what is ERwin?
[03:40] <magn3ts> larie, DBDesigner, uh, honestly I don't remember the others.
[03:40] <armor-64> here:E: Invalid operation nstall
[03:40] <armor-64> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:40] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, data modeling.
[03:41] <larie> ActionParsnip: idk
[03:41] <magn3ts> armor-64, follow the instructions, you typed "install" as "nstall" .
[03:41] <larie> magn3ts: thx! is that app the best? :p
[03:41] <allowoverride> does dpkg always go to the net to load a prog/util? where does it store package info? what dir?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: you could tell apt-get to download the debs. You can always add the install CD as a repo and install network manager from there
[03:41] <magn3ts> larie, no clue, I ended up using paint as it was just a homework assignment.
[03:41] <armor-64> it's working,whana install it?
[03:42] <magn3ts> larie, honestly dbdesigner just happened to show up on a random search for "erwin files ubuntu".
[03:42] <joshz> Are there differences in hardware requirements for the live CD versus running from an install?
[03:42] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: ic. but i did an upgrade from 9.10 to 10.10 from the net. so your saying i could burn a cd of 10.10 and load it locally and add to sources/repo?
[03:42] <FriGiN> Jordan_U: you awake yet?
[03:42] <magn3ts> joshz, possibly but I don't think so, what are you worried about?
[03:42] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: where does dpkg info store the prog/utils it has installed? what dir?
[03:42] <larie> magn3ts: hehe ;)
[03:42] <joshz> Well, the graphics work fine on the live CD, but I don't get anything beyond the desktop or occasional windows that flash up when I complete the install and boot off the laptop.
[03:42] <magn3ts> Why do people insist on installing years old versions of ubuntu and then upgrading them in place when a 15 minute download would let them have a clean install?
[03:43] <joshz> (Ubuntu 11.04)
[03:43] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: what cmd can i use to download debs to a local dir? so i can just install from there?
[03:43] <allowoverride> so many ways to install a prog with ubuntu... sighs...
[03:43] <magn3ts> joshz, oh right, I saw you before. It sounds like a compiz/graphics problem, maybe specific to unity+your graphics card.
[03:43] <joshz> Dell Inspiron 8600, AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 9000)
[03:43]  * joshz nods
[03:43] <joshz> Do you have any ideas for how I could fix it?
[03:43] <allowoverride> like apt-get and aptitude,, come on ubuntu devs, make up your minds!
[03:43] <DaSinge>  my download is taking forever:/
[03:43] <magn3ts> joshz, try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to tty, login, then do `compiz --replace` (two dashes) and then switch back to CTRL+ALT+F7 and see if it's any better
[03:44] <magn3ts> joshz, or at the gdm login screen, try "Ubuntu Classic" as the desktop to use.
[03:44] <joshz> Ctrl+Alt+F1 doesn't do anything
[03:44] <joshz> And I don't get the login screen.
[03:44] <magn3ts> joshz, oh :/
[03:44] <joshz> Nothing comes up at all.
[03:44] <magn3ts> joshz, over my head then.
[03:44] <joshz> ctrl+alt+f7 does something
[03:44] <magn3ts> allowoverride, usually they do different things...
[03:44] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get source networkmanager   will load to cur dir, correct?
[03:44] <joshz> Brings up a strange black-on white screen
[03:44] <joshz> things that look like emoticons.
[03:44] <magn3ts> joshz, you ought to be on that tty already anyway... :/ sounds pretty goofy.
[03:45] <joshz> ":(" ":<", ":)"...
[03:45] <allowoverride> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get -d networkmanager   will load to cur dir, correct?
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> allowoverride: read:  man apt-get
[03:45] <joshz> typing brings up different emoticons.
[03:45] <magn3ts> joshz, no readable text though?
[03:45] <allowoverride> thats what im doing,,
[03:45] <joshz> Nope.
[03:45] <joshz> I did compiz --replace and hit enter
[03:45] <allowoverride> just cuz someone reads something, doesnt mean they understand it all... my god
[03:45] <joshz> No noticeable change.
[03:45] <allowoverride> sometimes man pages are all over the map, you know that
[03:45] <magn3ts> joshz, well that was my mistake, I meant to have you do `metacity --replace` but if you haven't even logged in, something else is messed up.
[03:46] <joshz> No, it's set to auto-login, I think
[03:46] <magn3ts> joshz, what kind of graphics card? Did you notice, did you have shadows during the installer?
[03:46] <joshz> AGP 4x - ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
[03:46] <magn3ts> joshz, ack, auto-login is the bane of my existence with graphics problems.
[03:46] <joshz> Umm...not sure.
[03:46] <joshz> Really?
[03:46] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: if my internet is fast on other computers, and my wireless is strong on the problem computer, why would internet be slow?
[03:47] <joshz> Should I try to reinstall and not do auto-login?
[03:47] <magn3ts> joshz, yeah, if it's compiz related, you don't get a chance to not use it :S at least if it gets this bad.
[03:47] <allowoverride> can someone ELSE give me a one liner for downloading NetworkManager so i can use it after i HAVE no wireless connection..... thanks
[03:47] <allowoverride> fsck
[03:47] <magn3ts> joshz, I'm trying to see if there's an easy way for you to disable it without a full reinstall.
[03:47] <joshz> I have no problem with tha.
[03:47] <joshz> *that.
[03:47] <joshz> It was a fresh install anyway.
[03:47] <ugly_duck> if i want to export my xorg.conf file on ubuntu to use on another computer, only problem is there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf can i create one?
[03:47] <asdjaputra> !enter | joshz
[03:47] <magn3ts> allowoverride, what? Just go download the deb from packages.ubuntu.com and then dpkg - i it.
[03:48] <linux_is_my_hero> ubottu: blondes or brunettes?
[03:48] <allowoverride> thanks, that helps much more than man this or that.. thanks dude
[03:48] <magn3ts> joshz, well you can wait for better advice or give it a shot I suppose. Additionally, if you get that working, remember, try the "Ubuntu Classic".
[03:49] <DaSinge> finnaly the download is done!
[03:49] <joshz> magn3ts: I'd choose that at the login screen?
[03:49] <DaSinge> finally
[03:50] <bridean> Can anyone familiar with linux administration answer these questions?   http://pastebin.com/bDx2zTy8
[03:50] <magn3ts> joshz, yes. You click your username and then options pop up, beside Session: will be a drop down box and "Ubuntu Classic" should be a choice. That will give you compiz, but no Unity. If that fails again, try the Fallback session.
[03:50] <wabznasm> joshz: if you have user access set to 'no password' you won't see this screen
[03:51] <joshz> magn3ts: Okay. I'll try that if I can after the next install. I'll also let you know about the shadows.
[03:51] <allowoverride> is strongswan-nm (4.4.0-2ubuntu1) [universe] strongSwan plugin to interact with NetworkManager what i need?
[03:51] <magn3ts> bridean, it sounds like you're conflating issues of "internet" vs "intranet". I don't know what it means to have a password to the network as you outline it.
[03:51] <allowoverride> as listed on http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/net/
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> bridean: you won't need to "disable wine", its not a default app. Just don't install it. If you keep your users as users and not in the admin group most of this be managed for you
[03:51] <mrdeb> is the new dual core atom cpu that shows up as 4 cpus good for linux
[03:51] <magn3ts> bridean, I doubt that keyboards and mice have completely unique identifiers.
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> bridean: C compiling is available, you will just need to install the compiler
[03:52] <magn3ts> bridean, you could write said program. Forcing them to enter the information requires knowing how to hook it into the login process, not hard, but something to keep in mind.
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> bridean: you will need a proxy server to filter sites as well as log access
[03:52] <magn3ts> bridean, if you install the C compiler, even "guest" users will be able to use it.
[03:52] <bridean> magn3ts, The wi-fi has internet access, but to use it you have to set the gateway IP, subnet IP, and so forth
[03:53] <joshz> magn3ts: I see a faint shadow around the cursor, I think.
[03:53] <magn3ts> bridean, out of the box, they'll be able to bring in executables on jump drives, but you can disable external media, again, if you know how.
[03:53] <allowoverride> actually its not! i do not see networkmanager on packages.whatever magn3ts. please make sure you post something i can use...
[03:53] <magn3ts> joshz, ok. Hm.
[03:53] <magn3ts> allowoverride, pffft.
[03:53] <joshz> There shouldn't be a problem with downloading updates or third-party software, should there?
[03:53] <magn3ts> allowoverride, I'll make sure and do that next time you yell in caps.
[03:53] <bridean> magn3ts, So I can't for example, install Netbeans java compiler and only allow certain users access to it?
[03:54] <magn3ts> joshz, shouldn't but I had problems with it during betas :S take that for what you will.
[03:54] <dee27> how come files in missing in /usr/local/etc?
[03:54] <magn3ts> bridean, that's past the extent of my knowledge. I believe there are ways you can control who has access to what executables, maybe with groups? ActionParsnip might be able to chime in.
[03:54] <allowoverride> my bad, magn3ts im not in a good mood
[03:55] <bridean> magn3ts, If the executables are Windows executables and wine isn't installed, wouldn't they not be able to use them?
[03:55] <magn3ts> bridean, correct, I meant linux executables.
[03:55] <magn3ts> allowoverride, isn't this roughly what you're looking for: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/network-manager-gnome
[03:55] <bridean> magn3ts, I don't know if the students are smart enough to create linux executables for hacking.
[03:56] <magn3ts> allowoverride, that page also includes a link at the bottom for network-manager.
[03:56] <allowoverride> thanks, appreciated
[03:56] <magn3ts> bridean, I would make the same assumption though I would've been able to had I desired. :P It's probably a safe assumption in my opinion.
[03:56] <bridean> magn3ts, I suspect they get Windows executables from people who make them available.
[03:56] <magn3ts> bridean, I would suspect the same, yes.
[03:56] <allowoverride> magn3ts: thats a lot of deps ! wow
[03:56] <soreau> bridean: a2) wine is not installed by default and thus, you do not need to 'disable it' b1) Users only need user access. On ubuntu, the root account is disabled by default. b2) You can configure individual use permissions on linux c1) Configure it as such c2) likewise c3) likewise c4) You can access users history c5) Doable at your own skills limitations Alt) Check the hardware device id's
[03:57] <bridean> magn3ts, The thing is, these are Koreans.   Koreans are so group oriented (no original thought) that pretty much everybody just uses Windows
[03:57] <magn3ts> if you want an immutable log though, you'll need to do it at the network level.
[03:58] <joshz> Would there be any problem just going with the standard swap partition size, magn3ts?
[03:58] <magn3ts> soreau, would they have unique ids even from the same batch of KBs? I don't know how detailed things are at the usb level, just curious.
[03:58] <DaSinge> sorry again how to chack md5sums?
[03:58] <DaSinge> check
[03:58] <allowoverride> k im gonna give wicd a try to fix this bluetooth combo w/nic issue im having, wish me luck. bbiab with my findings... l8
[03:58] <bazhang> !md5 | DaSinge
[03:58] <soreau> magn3ts: It might be a more advanced situation, indeed
[03:58] <bazhang> !hashes | DaSinge
[03:58] <bridean> magn3ts, A few questions then  1)  Does it make sense to switch to linux?   2)  If I do switch, would a different security model be better than the one I am thinking of?
[03:59] <magn3ts> bridean, I don't know what all your users need to be able to use or what Windows software they might miss, but I guess.
[03:59] <soreau> bridean: Finally, you might ask this in a channel that is more specific to linux since these queries are not specific to ubuntu (such as ##linux)
[03:59] <magn3ts> bridean, with proper tools, especially newer versions of Windows can be pretty securely locked down.
[04:00] <bridean> Well, Ubuntu would be the linux distro I would choose if I install it
[04:01] <bazhang> bridean, this is getting a bit offtopic, you should check the help, wiki and manual
[04:01] <bazhang> !manual | bridean
[04:01] <soreau> magn3ts: Please stick with the topic by not suggesting other OS's features
[04:01] <bazhang> !wiki > bridean
[04:02] <bazhang> bridean, this is a channel for those troubleshooting actual install, ie , not whether to choose ubuntu or not
[04:02] <magn3ts> I can't take it anymore.
[04:02] <bazhang> magn3ts, take what
[04:02] <magn3ts> as if I'm dumb enough to answer that
[04:03] <bazhang> magn3ts, not sure what you're talking about
[04:04] <dev1ced> hi from cuba
[04:04] <godofmischief> hi, sorry to hear that.
[04:04] <bazhang> dev1ced, hi, ubuntu support question?
[04:04] <bazhang> godofmischief, thats not nice
[04:04] <soreau> welcome, dev1ced
[04:04] <godofmischief> bazhang: i was just playing =)
[04:05] <bazhang> godofmischief, uncalled for, just move on
[04:10] <xxDiGiToLxx> does anyone know of a http/ftp download manager for ubuntu that has a web ui. like how transmission or sabnzbd works where you just copy link of torrent or nzb to start a download?
[04:11] <bullgard4> Why is in Natty pre-installed Brasero but not sound-juicer?
[04:12] <allowoverride> ok, got wicd up no prob, just unchecked NM options. back to my original issue, bluetooth not working... brb
[04:12] <bazhang> bullgard4, they serve different functions, one is to get mp3 from a cd, one is to burn cd
[04:12] <soreau> bullgard4: Because Brasero is installed by default and sound-juicer isn't
[04:13] <bullgard4> soreau: My question is why is Brasero installed by default and sound-juicer is not.
[04:13] <allowoverride> i have bluez loaded,,, what should i use,,,, sudo bluetooth start, sudo service bluetooth start, or something else? how confusing....
[04:14] <bazhang> bullgard4, they serve different functions, they are not analogous
[04:14] <allowoverride> ...
[04:14] <soreau> bullgard4: Because that is just the way it is. That's like asking why drivers are installed by default but no 3D games are
[04:14] <allowoverride> soreau: pretty sour answer lol..
[04:14] <xxDiGiToLxx> does anyone know of a http/ftp download manager for ubuntu that has a web ui. like how transmission or sabnzbd works where you just copy link of torrent or nzb to start a download?
[04:14] <allowoverride> aka sorry answer
[04:15] <soreau> allowoverride: sour questions get sour answers
[04:15] <soreau> s/sour/sorry
[04:15] <soreau> doesn't really make a difference
[04:15] <bullgard4> bazhang, soreau Thank you very much for your answers.
[04:15] <Strife89> Sound Juicer probably isn't installed because, in some countries, things like ripping CDs may be illegal
[04:15] <allowoverride> misunderstood questions get sour answers too it seems in here
[04:15] <bazhang> bullgard4, welcome
[04:15] <bazhang> allowoverride, lets move on please
[04:15] <alesan> hi how do I launch openoffice from the command line?
[04:15] <allowoverride> ok bazhang back to my issue, scroll up, its right there :)
[04:16] <alesan> used to be ooffice or soffice
[04:16] <bazhang> alesan, use the name of the program, what version of ubuntu by the way
[04:16] <allowoverride> unless of course you dont know what i should do,, then please, someone else do jump right in ;) i appreciate real help
[04:16] <alesan> bazhang, yes, what is the "name of the program?"
[04:16] <alesan> bazhang, ubuntu 11.04
[04:16] <bazhang> alesan, libreoffice is in 11.04 for example, thus my asking version of ubuntu
[04:16] <allowoverride> sudo service bluetooth status    bluetooth is NOT running, which should i use, see above
[04:17] <allowoverride> before i do anything i want the right sequence of what to do next,,, im tired of all these diff ways to do the same thing
[04:17] <alesan> bazhang, can I get the rgular openoffice instead of "libreoffice" that sounds south-american?
[04:17] <allowoverride> alesan: libreoffice is the BOMB, use that for sure, forget the openoffice term
[04:17] <alesan> ok
[04:17] <alesan> allowoverride, libreoffice works from the command line
[04:18] <alesan> thanks
[04:18] <allowoverride> seriously, it really is 10x more and eye appealing
[04:19] <allowoverride> alesan: yadda, no one does cmdline stuff for documents anymore lol
[04:19] <allowoverride> except gedit from control - F2
[04:19] <allowoverride> lol
[04:20] <allowoverride> alesan: a lot of what you see in the GUI works from cmdline, just a heads up ;)
[04:20] <allowoverride> like 90%
[04:20] <Will123456> hey guys. my super button has packed in. pressing it or any other super-based button combos does nothing at all. i'm running ubuntu 11.04. where should i go from here? i don't really want to do a full reinstall
[04:20] <alesan> allowoverride, what are you talking about?
[04:21] <magn3ts> Will123456, what does "packed in" mean?
[04:21] <alesan> I wanted to configure thunderbird to use the correct application when I open a .doc file
[04:21] <alesan> and I need to specify the binary used to open such MIME type
[04:21] <alesan> thanks anyway
[04:21] <alesan> bye
[04:21] <Will123456> magn3ts: i press it and nothing happens. i remember someone else having a similar problem, and someone recommended running a program that registered and printed back button press events. every button worked except for super.
[04:21] <magn3ts> alesan, trust me, you're better off ignoring him.
[04:21] <magn3ts> alesan, hold on.
[04:22] <alesan> magn3ts, well but he kind of helped me to find the solution
[04:22] <alesan> "libreoffice" is the name of the command I need to call
[04:22] <magn3ts> alesan, which office app do you want it to open in
[04:22] <magn3ts> alesan, for example Writer would be:   `` libreoffice -writer %U ``
[04:22] <linux_is_my_hero> why would a fresh install of ubuntu have rediculously slow internet when it was fine before i reinstalled ubuntu?
[04:22] <alesan> the one that is associated with the particular file
[04:23] <alesan> well if I have a .doc it should be smart enought to use the writer thing
[04:23] <magn3ts> alesan, lol it's making you match mime-types with programs, expecting it to be smart is asking a bit much.
[04:23] <Will123456> linux_is_my_hero: dodgy wireless drivers? have you made sure you're fully upgraded
[04:23] <linux_is_my_hero> yeah im upgrading right now...relaly wish i had a 40 foot ethernet cable
[04:23] <magn3ts> alesan, throwing random files at `libreoffice` may work. If it does, good for you I suppose :P
[04:24] <alesan> magn3ts, once I assign .doc to "libreoffice" then it opens writer, that's how it works
[04:24] <mARCUs> is there a chat for mint linux.....  <-------noob
[04:24] <Will123456> linux_is_my_hero: i've got one :) they're great
[04:24] <linux_is_my_hero> will123456: upgrading right now...really wish i had a 40 foot network cable
[04:24] <magn3ts> alesan, okay, they must have built that in, sounds like you've got it then.
[04:24] <alesan> magn3ts, it always worked with StarOffice and also Openoffice
[04:24] <linux_is_my_hero> i paid good money for this wifi card, im gunna find a way to make it work :-)
[04:24] <alesan> I remember when you had to download a binary tarball from staroffice.de with a modem 56MB it took all night
[04:24] <magn3ts> alesan, I see, sounds good.
[04:24] <alesan> :)
[04:24] <Will123456> mARCUs: irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint.com
[04:25] <Will123456> though that might be out of date
[04:25] <alesan> bye!!! thanks guys
[04:25] <mARCUs> thanks Will
[04:25] <Will123456> mARCUs: make sure you check linuxmint.com too
[04:25] <mARCUs> ok :)
[04:26] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: What card is it?
[04:26] <linux_is_my_hero> i dont know i had it working just fine with other versions of linux and now its running slow
[04:27] <linux_is_my_hero> remind me again how i check my hardware without taking my case apart
[04:27] <soreau> linux_is_my_hero: lspci|grep Network
[04:27] <Will123456> mARCUs: do bear in mind there won't be a huge lot of difference between mint and ubuntu, and there will be a lot more ubuntu users around than mint. but also bear in mind that ubuntu users offering you support are free to tell you to piss off because you're not using pure ubuntu :P
[04:28] <linux_is_my_hero> RaLink RT2800 802.11n PCI
[04:28] <soreau> ! ralink | linux_is_my_hero
[04:29] <Trasp> crap... I've just installed a new system, but I can't get my screen to work. I've had this problem before and it's only like this when it's not in X (allthough, I have no X at all atm)...
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Trasp
[04:29] <Trasp> If I remember correctly there's something I should change to the grub.cfg (or well, the scripts generating it)
[04:29] <Trasp> kthx
[04:30] <Trasp> :)
[04:30] <brenosalgado> is there any way to install gvim telling it to use my compiled vim instalation? vim-gnome/vim-gtk breaks with command-t and I can't seem to find any way to fix this shit
[04:31] <h00k> !language | brenosalgado
[04:31] <brenosalgado> k sorry
[04:31] <Trasp> ActionParsnip,  This nomodeset you linked to seems to not affect grub, this also affects grub
[04:32] <adenicio> how to change my keyboard layout on kubuntu
[04:32] <adenicio> the q is a and the q is an a
[04:33] <adenicio> a is a q
[04:33] <localg0d> hello
[04:34] <IcemanV9> adenicio:  KDE: System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout
[04:34] <localg0d> is there any way I can make my netbook work or it's desktop work i mean , like a regular desktop without the weird launch thingy ? and the top and bottom bars ?.
[04:35] <Will123456> localg0d: choose "classic" when logging in at the bottom
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Trasp: that doesn't sound good, is the ram ok?
[04:35] <localg0d> hmm
[04:35] <localg0d> brb
[04:35] <Trasp> Yes it is, obviously it's a common problem with natty, I've had it on another machine
[04:35] <mARCUs> tis dead .......tis dead indeed :(  oh shmell  moving on
[04:36] <Trasp> both of them were installed with alternative cd
[04:36] <Trasp> I've found  a thread with a bunch of other people having the problem but can't find it right now...
[04:36] <BitWraith> my little brother's wubi xubuntu install broke epicly during a dist-upgrade... rather than fix it, we decided to uninstall it and start over
[04:37] <Trasp> I'll try to look through the grub configs again and see if I can find what it was...
[04:37] <BitWraith> the uninstall worked fine, but now wubi.exe is telling me "Could not download the metalink and therefor the ISO"
[04:37] <BitWraith> therefore*
[04:38] <Will123456> BitWraith: a workaround would be to download the iso yourself manually and putting it in the same directory as wubi.exe, then starting wubi.exe
[04:38] <magn3ts> Has the Ubuntu team ever considered suggesting a separate partition for /home
[04:38] <magn3ts> I feel it would make a lot of support issues easier.
[04:39] <somethinginteres> is Ubuntu capable of doing HDMI from the computer to HDMI on the TV with full quality of picture?
[04:39] <adenicio> theres no keyboard option to change in regional language
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> somethinginteres: yes
[04:40] <Will123456> magn3ts: it's got a lot of advantages but also requires end users having to know about partitioning and make decisions about how much space to dedicate to which partition, which raises lots of problems in of itself. i would never go without a seperate /home partition myself
[04:40] <magn3ts> Will123456, yeah, I suppose so.
[04:40] <somethinginteres> ActionParsnip: Thanks for that, had a friend who was curious about doing that.
[04:41] <adenicio> how to change my keyboard layout on kubuntu
[04:41] <adenicio> theres no keyboard option to change in regional language
[04:41] <IcemanV9> magn3ts: they did once for hoary (5.04) release, then no more option afterward
[04:42] <joshz> magn3ts: It worked! Thanks very much. I was able to get to the login screen and choose Ubuntu Classic, and can now use the machine.
[04:43] <CppIsWeird> you can make a bin folder in your home directory and put executables in there so that you can use them as commands right?
[04:44] <soreau> CppIsWeird: Sure, provided the executables have a suitable environment in which to run
[04:44] <magn3ts> joshz, wow, I'm shocked that worked, it really probably shouldn't have.
[04:44] <CppIsWeird> well i did that and it still says it cant find the command, do i need to reboot or something?
[04:44]  * joshz shrugs
[04:44] <magn3ts> joshz, well, it's not that it shouldn't have worked, but things shouldn't have been that messed up, it's surely a bug, but I'm not even sure where.
[04:44] <joshz> I'm not complaining.
[04:44] <CppIsWeird> they are set as executable
[04:44] <Will123456> adenicio: SystemSettings>InputDevices>Keyboard>Layout-tab
[04:45] <magn3ts> joshz, yeah, I hear yah, glad it's working for you.
[04:45] <joshz> Was there anything else I had to do other than setting it to Ubuntu Classic and disabling auto-login?
[04:45] <qq_> .
[04:45] <magn3ts> CppIsWeird, from the terminal, type `echo $PATH` and see if your /home/CppIsWeird/bin shows up.
[04:46] <Trasp> ActionParsnip, Well, I tried adding the nomodeset and now I have a blinking cursor instead, any ideas? (I can still log in through ssh)
[04:46] <lighta> hi guys, how can I fork a message into different terminal ?
[04:46] <magn3ts> joshz, I don't think so :S you do know you're not getting unity now though, you're getting the plain old gnome 2 interface... not that there's anything wrong with that. just so you're aware.
[04:46] <CppIsWeird> hmm, no, its not.
[04:46] <soreau> CppIsWeird: You need to specify the full path the the executable if the directory containing the executable file is not in your $PATH
[04:47] <magn3ts> CppIsWeird, that's weird, it's set to be in the default ubuntu bash_profile I believe.
[04:47] <IcemanV9> CppIsWeird: and make sure it's +x executable
[04:47] <joshz> magn3ts: Yeah, I don't mind. This is just gonna be a simple computer to take on vacation and do whatever web browsing and photo backups we need. I don't need any fancy graphics.
[04:47] <CppIsWeird> im using xubuntu, i didnt figure a question as basic as this would matter about the version.
[04:47] <CppIsWeird> everything is +x
[04:48] <CppIsWeird> its a clean install, so its the default
[04:48] <zykotick9> CppIsWeird, for ~/bin to be in your path, it had to be present when you logged in.  Did you just create the directory?
[04:49] <CppIsWeird> yes, so logout/in?
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> lighta: http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/76660-send-console-message-all-users-tty.html
[04:49] <IcemanV9> CppIsWeird: try this: /home/CppIsWeird/bin/<executable program>
[04:49] <CppIsWeird> thanks :)D
[04:49] <magn3ts> IcemanV9, we already know the problem, it wasn't in his PATH for some reason.
[04:49] <lighta> ah thx ActionParsnip =) i'll check that
[04:49] <Trasp> I've got a problem with my fresh install without X, i can't get no screen. I tried the nomodeset but all it did was to give me a blinking cursor instead, does anyone recognize this problem?
[04:49] <magn3ts> zykotick9, TIL. thanks.
[04:50] <CppIsWeird> zykotick9, fixed it, thanks :D
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> Trasp: what video chip you use?
[04:51] <Trasp> ActionParsnip, Hm, I've got a 5970
[04:52] <Trasp> vt.handoff=7
[04:52] <Trasp> what's that for?
[04:52] <Trasp> That command starts some bells in my head (grub.cfg, linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=UUID=a866a0ba-9838-4d6c-8796-917917a4c7cf ro   quiet splash nomodeset vt.handoff=7)
[04:52] <adenicio> tanks will123456
[04:53] <Trasp> ActionParsnip, "That creates seamless transition to the graphical login screen. Specifically, it makes the 7th virtual terminal come up automatically, so you don't see the console login prompt before X11 loads. This is a good thing. The problem is that this occurs even when X11 is not installed! " <- THink I've found it =)
[04:53] <Trasp> switched to tty1
[04:54] <Trasp> works great since the nomodeset
[04:54] <Trasp> :)
[04:54] <magn3ts> interesting, I didn't know that's how that worked. who decided that tty7 = X.
[04:54] <Trasp> So you were right about that one
[04:54] <Will123456> hey guys. do your window buttons (close, maximise, minimise) highlight in any way when you mouse over them? in ubuntu 11.04
[04:54] <adenicio> im running kubuntu but it doesnt detect nothing i plug in usb.i plug in the usb port a card reader but nothing shows saying it detects.from the start when i install kubuntu it said usb port disable or something
[04:55] <Will123456> i'd appreciate someone quickly checking, because my own buttons don't seem to be doing anything and i could swear they normally do
[04:56] <wabznasm> Will123456: what theme?
[04:56] <Will123456> wabznasm: the default. ambience, i think?
[04:57] <rixius> is there a way to get an ubuntu cd that will install with set paramaters with ssh on by default? I'd like to install onto a macbook that has a busted deisplay
[04:57] <Will123456> wabznasm: does it highlight for you when hovering over the buttons? i'm getting nothing but i swear i used to get a little highlight animation
[05:01] <magn3ts> I think compiz is the buggiest piece of software I've ever used. Corner bindings randomly stop working. It's happened three times today already.
[05:01] <adenicio> any help?kubuntu not detecting my usb conection.11.04
[05:01] <Will123456> seriously? none of the people i helped out today want to bother spending 10 seconds checking if their window buttons highlight on mouse hover for me? i'd get annoyed if i wasn't so handsome and witty and charming and so on
[05:01] <Will123456> good night!
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: don't use it then
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: i would but I'm ssh'd in from work, no can do
[05:02] <extraclassic> Will123456: mine don't do anything but i'm on 10.04
[05:02] <magn3ts> It was more an indictment of the QA for natty than a criticism of compiz. I have better luck building from source on trunk or the 0.8.x releases.
[05:02] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: fair enough - I actually thought a bunch of you would be in that situation :P
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: plus I use openbox so I doubt its relevant to your (most likely) gnome desktop
[05:03] <adenicio> i would help but im a beginner :(
[05:03] <Will123456> extraclassic: hm - okay. maybe i was dreaming it all along then. thanks :)
[05:03] <magn3ts> Will123456, what do you mean highlight?
[05:03] <magn3ts> They get "lighter", yes.
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: log bugs to inform the devs
[05:03] <Will123456> magn3ts: really? you see they don't for me. what a strange bug
[05:04] <magn3ts> I've worked with #compiz-dev to try to track down several bugs already, wasn't really my point. I don't really have a constructive point, I'll shut up about it.
[05:04] <magn3ts> Will123456, :S dunna what to tell you. it happens with active and inactive windows too.
[05:04] <extraclassic> magn3ts: i don't have trouble with compiz in gnome, but it's garbage for me in xfce
[05:04] <magn3ts> Will123456, of course assuming you're referring to the stock Ambiance theme
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: does it happen as all users?
[05:05] <Will123456> magn3ts: yep, absolutely stock. thanks for checking for me :)
[05:05] <magn3ts> no problem.
[05:05] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: I actually didn't even think of testing that. i'll do it right now. thanks!
[05:05] <soreau> magn3ts: What can I say. Canonical did not hire me :P
[05:05] <soreau> magn3ts: The current stable release of compiz is 0.8
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: try thinking instead of the snappy remark earlier ;)
[05:06] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: duly noted - i'm already feeling ashamed :P
[05:07] <adenicio> any help?kubuntu not detecting my usb conection.
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: its cool :D
[05:07] <magn3ts> soreau, I should have chosen my wording more precisely, you're right.
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/compiz-adds-natty-ppa/
[05:07] <magn3ts> adenicio, uh what sort of usb connection?
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: try 0.9 at your own risk. May help
[05:07] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Tell that to ubuntu devs :P
[05:08] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, lol no... ubuntu ships with 0.9
[05:08] <Nisstyre> yes
[05:08] <adenicio> any device i conects to usb it doesnt detects magn3ts:
[05:08] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, that's the problem...
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: looks like its not in there anymore
[05:08] <magn3ts> adenicio, what devices have you tried and by "detect" do you mean automount?
[05:09] <soreau> ActionParsnip: huh?
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> magn3ts: yeah just noticed natty has 0.9.4
[05:09] <magn3ts> ActionParsnip, 0.8 is stable, ubuntu shipped with 0.9... and actually, there are PPAs dedicated to relieving the pain of 0.9 ... that allow for 0.8 on natty :P
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> soreau: thought I found a later version via ppa
[05:09] <godofmischief>  anyone use synergy in here?
[05:09] <soreau> Ubuntu has always shipped compiz versions tagged development but 0.9.x is the C++ rewrite
[05:09] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: other users have the same problem (including the super key not working). as much as it pains me to say this i might end up reinstalling ubuntu! :(
[05:09] <soreau> a whole new monster
[05:09] <adenicio> no i mean if i plug like a card reader or hdd or anything else it says no devices
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: then it is a bug, not bad settings
[05:09] <magn3ts> I should just get soreau's script up and running again and build it myself.
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> soreau: I just sidestep the whole mess, much simpler life
[05:10] <soreau> magn3ts: Or use the 0.8 PPA
[05:10] <Will123456> ActionParsnip: in that case i'll definitely file a bug
[05:10] <soreau> ActionParsnip: If you don't know what version of compiz shipped with natty, you should side step the issue indeed ;)
[05:10] <magn3ts> soreau, oh come on now, I'm not going to take the easy way out.
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> soreau: I do, openbox all the way
[05:11] <soreau> ActionParsnip: I meant, refrain from commenting on that which you have no knowledge
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> soreau: i guess. I know how to fix it a little though. I use it on my lappy to help users to fix it when it falls over itself. Not knowing a version number is quite trivial
[05:14] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Actually, it is not in this case. The 0.9.x version indicates a very large change
[05:14] <magn3ts> it was the c++ rewrite, no?
[05:16] <soreau> magn3ts: yes.
[05:16] <soreau> It also includes a number of breaking core changes
[05:18] <Rouse> how to mount my ext4 partition
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> !mount
[05:19] <soreau> ! mount | Rouse
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> soreau: then why was it included?
[05:21] <magn3ts> the 1e9 question.
[05:21] <soreau> ActionParsnip: Why was what included?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> soreau: the 0.9 version of compiz?
[05:22] <soreau> ActionParsnip: You would have to ask the canonical team and/or ubuntu developers
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> soreau: I guess
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> soreau: cheers :D
[05:23] <rww> one of them mentioned it at some point:
[05:23] <rww> compiz 0.9 was included because 0.8->0.9 switched programming languages, so they could either write Unity in the old one and then port it /again/, or write it in the new one and then include compiz 0.9
[05:23] <magn3ts> I would completely naively guess unity.
[05:23] <rww> i think it came up at the desktop Q&A on Monday
[05:23] <rww> magn3ts wins a cookie
[05:24] <soreau> That was the main reason indeed. They needed a way to implement unity quickly, and compiz happened to be it.
[05:24] <magn3ts> I mean, lets be fair, unity isn't crazy finished or stable in it's own right. I'll just say I give a pass to people that say skip 11.04 more than "ditch ubuntu cause of unity"
[05:25] <rww> oh, it was going to be re-written in Compiz either way. Clutter was a performance nightmare, and Ubuntu already used Compiz, so...
[05:25] <soreau> magn3ts: In all fairness though, they released unity prematurely
[05:25] <lucky711x> where is samba shares configured now in 11.04?  I know shares used to be configured in smb.conf but if you right click and share a folder what config file is that saved in?
[05:25] <magn3ts> soreau, heh, no contention here. I think Mark was antsy about a visual refresh, he's been talking UI and UI revamp for quite some time
[05:25] <soreau> They should have released 0.9 and tested those waters before dumping on a plethora of other new code in addition
[05:26] <rww> soreau: I don't think so. I don't think it's stable and finished, but I also think you can't have a 6-month release cycle and always have every plan stable and finished. That's what LTS is for.
[05:26] <rww> and I'd rather have it be released now and polished for two cycles than released in oneiric and polished for one.
[05:26] <Wulf> Hello
[05:26] <drawmeat> Q: How do I format a usb drive from xubuntu
[05:26] <magn3ts> or rolling release or have releases gauged - LTS, stable, dev or something
[05:26] <rww> magn3ts: that's not an option :P
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> drawmeat: use gparted
[05:26] <magn3ts> drawmeat, what filesystem? FAT?
[05:26] <magn3ts> rww, which the gauged releases or rolling?
[05:27] <drawmeat> magn3ts, not sure
[05:27] <soreau> rww: To each their own. I failed to append 'IMHO' to my previous statement
[05:27] <magn3ts> drawmeat, what kind of computers does it need to work with?
[05:27] <Wulf> I'm trying to get ubuntu kickstart (with pxe boot) running. The new machine always connects to gb.archive.ubuntu.com to retrieve the file, although I specified a proxy server and an URL
[05:27] <Wulf> what am I doing wrong?
[05:27] <drawmeat> magn3ts, my dell
[05:27] <magn3ts> drawmeat, windows?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: you need to change the server to your server
[05:28] <drawmeat> magn3ts, xubuntu
[05:28] <soreau> rww: But FWIW, the main compiz dev agreed that unity has released prematurely
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: the proxy is simply the server use to get web access
[05:28] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: where?
[05:28] <magn3ts> drawmeat, just use gparted. lol.
[05:28] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: the proxy is not used.
[05:28] <soreau> And the fact is, that it was
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: in sources.list is one place
[05:28] <drawmeat> magn3ts, from the command line?
[05:28] <magn3ts> drawmeat, gparted is GUI, is that okay?
[05:28] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: don't have it
[05:28] <rww> soreau: The plural of "opinion" isn't "fact".
[05:28] <drawmeat> magn3ts, yes thank you
[05:28] <soreau> rww: I never said it has
[05:28] <soreau> I was just stating a fact
[05:29] <rww> soreau: It isn't a fact.
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: you must, or apt-get and software centre won't work
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: it's in /etc/apt
[05:29] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: please reread my question
[05:29] <soreau> unity is a good idea, but it was released before it was stable. Thus, prematurely
[05:29] <drawmeat> magn3ts, i looked for it in the software center, is it under a diffrent name?
[05:29] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: that happens during the installation process
[05:29] <rww> soreau: "before it was stable" does not imply "premature".
[05:29] <soreau> rww: Again, to each their own
[05:30] <magn3ts> drawmeat, uh, it should be there under that name
[05:30] <soreau> I see this as a fact but not everyone is going to see eye-to-eye on this one
[05:30] <rww> That's self-contradictory.
[05:30] <soreau> In any event, it's really offtopic for this channel
[05:30] <magn3ts> this might be a language barrier maybe?
[05:30] <Will123456> this is like the geekiest western gun duel in the world
[05:30] <bazhang> soreau, at any rate this is getting offtopic, thanks
[05:30] <wabznasm> what's the IRC command to remind people that they may be having an interesting conversation, but it's OT?
[05:30] <bazhang> Will123456, thats hardly an ubuntu question
[05:30] <soreau> bazhang: You're welcome ;)
[05:31] <magn3ts> wabznasm, I think it's "summon bazhang".
[05:31] <magn3ts> haha
[05:31] <bazhang> wabznasm, !ot | users
[05:31] <wabznasm> lol
[05:31] <Will123456> bazhang: i was just trying to defuse the tension. :P sorry mum
[05:31] <Will123456> i'm off guys - thanks for all the help!
[05:31] <bazhang> magn3ts, I'm not cthulhu ... yet
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: does this help: http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror_p3
[05:33] <AndroUser2> Hi I have added lxde desktop to my ubuntu install due to old laptop is it safe to remove gnome?
[05:33] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: no.
[05:33] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: Do you know what "kickstart" (or kickseed?!) is?
[05:33] <bazhang> AndroUser2, sure
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: i know pxe, i'll look up kickstart
[05:33] <AndroUser2> OK thanks
[05:33] <bazhang> AndroUser2, more involved than removing ubuntu-desktop though
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: ahh, i see
[05:34] <bazhang> !purelxde | AndroUser2
[05:34] <xastey> i'm having an odd problem.. when I open up the term and try to ls it just locks up
[05:34] <AndroUser2> Thanks for the link
[05:37] <drawmeat> magn3ts, worked beautiful, thank you for helping this 00b\
[05:38] <drawmeat> *noob
[05:38] <blargh_> i am trying to boot from a USB drive (win7) but it tells me when checking the partitions "NTFS5: no grldr" and stops doing anything at "… EXT2 _"
[05:39] <godofmischief> I've edited ftab, do i need to reboot to make changes take effect, or can i just logout and log back in?
[05:39] <rww> godofmischief: depending on the changes, you'll need to reboot or "sudo mount -a"
[05:40] <kylemcgill> godofmischief: you should be able to reload ftab with sudo mount -a
[05:40] <kylemcgill> ahhh bet me to it
[05:44] <lucky711x> where is samba share stored now in 11.04?  I know they used to be stored in /etc/smb.conf, but when you right click and share a folder now where is that config saved to? what file?
[05:44] <godofmischief> thanks guys.
[05:46] <JoeR1__> anyone care to len d some advice with Parole media plaer?
[05:46] <chicognu> I delete /var/lib/dpkg/status and now ?
[05:47] <chicognu> I delete /var/lib/dpkg/status how to fix it ?
[05:47] <compubomb> yes.
[05:49] <blargh_> how do i need to set up  a partition for win7 installation
[05:49] <blargh_> when booting it tells me "NTFS5: no grldr"
[05:50] <zykotick9> blargh_, ##windows is probably a better spot to be asking
[05:50] <blargh_> i asked there to, no answer yet
[05:50] <blargh_> *too
[05:51] <blargh_> also, i want to set up the partition with gparted
[05:51] <lucky711x> blargh_: try this http://tinyurl.com/6yggaqd
[05:51] <capri> for win7 you'll need a seperated start partition
[05:51] <Yai> boot in "AHCI" or "IDE" mode ?
[05:52] <lucky711x> where is samba share stored now in 11.04?  I know they used to be stored in /etc/smb.conf, but when you right click and share a folder now where is that config saved to? what file?
[05:52] <jordan_> blargh, if your duel booting best to install linux over windows
[05:52] <blargh_> lucky711x: yeah, that helps exactly zero.
[05:52] <jordan_> personally i never have installed linux then windows before
[05:53] <jgeli> hi, am running Natty on a laptop with AMD Fusion e350 and 8GB of ram. I have these freezes that I dont have with Win 7 on the same machine. how do i know whats causing the lock ups?
[05:54] <soreau> jgeli: Check logs such as /var/log/messages or /var/log/syslog
[05:54] <jgeli> soreau, what am I looking for in those files?
[05:54] <blargh_> jordan: once i installed win7 over linux, then i could start linux from the bootmanager, so no problem
[05:55] <ParadigmUltra> Do people still use Comanche to configure Apache?
[05:55] <blargh_> but now i don't even get to the installation because of "NTFS5: no grldr"
[05:55] <jordan_> blargh, i just have no clue
[05:55] <soreau> jgeli: any interesting messages indicating a problem
[05:56] <jgeli> soreau, ill try to post some and hope someone can help
[05:56] <ParadigmUltra> I'm pretty suprised that Apache isn't listed in the Software Center
[05:56] <_Neytiri_> is there a good narrator out there?
[05:57] <soreau> jgeli: Lockups are usually caused by a kernel module (driver) issue but it can be hard to say which. Many times, it's the graphics driver
[05:57] <jgeli> sorea
[05:58] <jgeli> soreau: i am having issues with this ATI driver, Apparently Unity doesnt like ATI hardware and this fusion APU is relatively new
[05:58] <lucky711x> in case anyone needs to know samba shares are now stored in /var/lib/samba/usershares
[05:59] <zykotick9> lucky711x, i think if you install the full samba you'll find the config is still in /etc - it's probably just the "personal file sharing" that uses that /var/lib/.. path
[05:59] <lucky711x> blargh_, what steps did you take to install ubuntu and win7?
[05:59] <soreau> jgeli: If you've installed the proprietary fglrx driver, remove it. If you're using the default radeon driver, ask in #radeon for support
[05:59] <jgeli> sorea
[06:00] <jgeli> soreau: fglrx is the one that works. the open source one does not.
[06:00] <ParadigmUltra> Anyone know a good program to configure the Apache server?
[06:00] <lucky711x> zykotick9, in the /var/lib/samba/usershares
[06:00] <lucky711x>  is where shares config files are store when you right click a folder and share it
[06:01] <soreau> jgeli: It works, but for newer radeon gpu's, you may need to update the driver stack on the latest version of ubuntu by installing xorg-edgers repo
[06:01] <zykotick9> lucky711x, ya that's with the "personal file sharing" or whatever it's called
[06:01] <blargh_> lucky711x: i installed ubuntu some time ago and now i have created a bootable USB drive to install win7 from. When booting from this it stops at checking the partitions, saying one is "NTFS5: no grldr" and the last one is "EXT2"
[06:01] <soreau> jgeli: It's best to remove fglrx and get help in #radeon
[06:01] <jgeli> soreau: im on the syslog but somehow cant find what i need to find.
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> blargh_: do you have unpartitioned space on the drive(s)
[06:02] <jgeli> soreau: nothing that says error or fail or something like that
[06:02] <blargh_> ActionParsnip: nope
[06:02] <lucky711x> zykotick9, but you can still use the smb.conf for shares but the /var/lib/samba/usershares
[06:02] <lucky711x>  seems easier to me
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> blargh_: but you do have an NTFS partition?
[06:02] <blargh_> yes, two
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> blargh_: ok then i'd question the install media
[06:02] <blargh_> the empty one i wanted to install win7 to is /dev/sda1
[06:03] <blargh_> the usb drive is an exact copy of the Win7 DVD
[06:03] <blargh_> NTFS formatted, boot flag set
[06:04] <capri> blargh: you need more than one partition
[06:04] <capri> as i told you before you need a seperated boot partition
[06:05] <blargh_> i have set the boot flag too on the empty NTFS partition
[06:05] <nit-wit> windows 7 can be installed in one partition unless you need the bitlocker on the ultimate
[06:06] <blargh_> nit-wit: its not Ultimate, it is Pro
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> blargh_: does the Win7 DVD allow you to copy it exactly? Does it not need extra software etc?
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> blargh_: boot flags are moot, you use grub now
[06:07] <blargh_> ActionParsnip: it looked just the same as the DVD, don't know but i'm pretty sure / what do I do with grub?
[06:07] <melrockz> Hi everyone, SMplayer is not working in Natty... no video appears, though command line mplayer plays the same video. What could be the issue?
[06:08] <zykotick9> melrockz, change the VO in smplayer, should be in the preferences/settings somewhere
[06:08] <melrockz> The VO? Video is set to xv.
[06:09] <zykotick9> melrockz, from cli try "mplayer -vo xv FOO" and see if it works.  VO = Video Output
[06:09] <melrockz> Thanks, I'll try that...
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> blargh_: it will boot the OSes once installed. I'd ask in ##windows to make sure the USB stick is made correctly
[06:10] <wirehead> how would I resolve the "checking battery state" hang that occurs after installing a second video card?
[06:10] <blargh_> I will try to make the USB stick again from scratch using unetbootin
[06:10] <melrockz> No, 'mplayer -vo xv' does not work!
[06:11] <zykotick9> melrockz, so in smplayer change to something else
[06:11] <Tommy_nmw> hi
[06:11] <zykotick9> melrockz, gl might be a good choice, x11 will almost always work (but has limited abilities)
[06:12] <Tommy_nmw> how to setup CDMA800 Mhz  EVDO Internet connection on ubuntu 10.04
[06:12] <Tommy_nmw> ?
[06:12] <melrockz> Looks like x11 mode works in mplayer... I'll try that in smplayer now...
[06:12] <nit-wit> blargh_, hold on I know a thumb loader that works with W7 i have to find it.
[06:12] <zykotick9> melrockz, x11 probably doesn't have "real" fullscreen!
[06:13] <melrockz> Oops, GL does not work, btw I have old Intel 845GL onboard graphics only :(
[06:13] <nit-wit> blargh_, http://liveusb.info/dotclear/  this is an excellent tool.
[06:13] <blargh_> ok, thanks
[06:14] <zykotick9> melrockz, try x11 and test if fullscreen works
[06:14] <AlexDevilLX> Is this phrase correct: "somewhen we will all fall down" ?
[06:14] <nit-wit> blargh_, the method you used will work if you extract the iso to the thumb as well, IE ntfs partion on thumb and a boot flag, then exstract to it.
[06:15] <melrockz> K, thanks. One more Q, Doesn't Empathy hang when we try to access IRC chat? Can anything be done 4 that?
[06:17] <Kaoloi> hi all
[06:17] <zykotick9> melrockz, do you have any other IM's configured before you tried IRC?  If not, try configuring something else first.  BTW, IM clients make poor IRC clients.
[06:17] <sweat> ls
[06:18] <sweat> sorry--force of habbit
[06:18] <melrockz> I see. What would u suggest as a proper IRC client 4 ubuntu?
[06:18] <zykotick9> melrockz, xchat is popular
[06:18] <sweat> melrockz: irssi
[06:19] <blargh_> nit-wit: is there an english web site?
[06:19] <zykotick9> melrockz, FYI irssi is a cli client
[06:19] <sweat> it's all cli on irc
[06:19] <andydam> Hi, I'm trying to get my audio to work on Ubuntu 10.10.
[06:19] <melrockz> Oh, I just configured smplayer to use x11, still no vid appears...
[06:19] <andydam> I have an ALC662, and I can't get any audio to come out.
[06:20] <nit-wit> blargh_, if you have the flash block on it wont translate, it is on the translation page second download.
[06:20] <Beyond> andydam that sounds like a problem.
[06:20] <melrockz> btw, are there any proper repos for mplayer and smplayer 4 natty? Looks like the ones I found support only Lucid.
[06:20] <andydam> Beyond, trololololololol.
[06:20] <andydam> Can someone help me with my no audio problem?
[06:21] <nit-wit> blargh_, I hit the reload with the flash working and get a translate drop drown.
[06:21] <sweat> andydam: is your user in the audio group
[06:21] <andydam> :|
[06:21] <andydam> sweat, explain
[06:21] <sweat> andydam: groups USERNAME
[06:22] <blargh_> nit-wit: using chromium?
[06:22] <andydam> sweat, andy : andy adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[06:22] <zykotick9> sweat, FYI just typeing "groups" will show all groups your logged on user is a part of
[06:22] <sweat> andydam: usermod andy -a -G audio
[06:23] <andydam> user 'audio' does not exist
[06:23] <nit-wit> blargh_, the only other idiosyncrasy I have found with this app is I have to use gparted to make a fat3 that the app accepts.2
[06:23] <nit-wit> *fat32
[06:24] <sweat> andydam: apt-get install pulseaudio and then start-pulseaudio-x11
[06:24] <blargh_> I'll try with unetbootin first
[06:24] <andydam> sweat, pulseaudio already installed
[06:24] <andydam> sweat, Failure: Module initalization failed
[06:25] <andydam> alright nvm
[06:25] <andydam> i started with sudo
[06:25] <andydam> sweat, should I reboot and see if its working?
[06:25] <zykotick9> andydam, "grep audio /etc/group" do you get output?
[06:25] <andydam> Or are there more steps?
[06:26] <andydam> audio:x:29:pulse,andy
[06:26] <andydam> .
[06:26] <sweat> andydam: try playing audio from terminal with sudio APP whatever.avi or whatever--see if it plays under that
[06:26] <sweat> *sudo
[06:26] <andydam> wait what
[06:26] <andydam> uhhh
[06:27] <sweat> execute something from sudo
[06:28] <andydam> sweat, I don't know what to execute.
[06:28] <andydam> :|
[06:28] <orwells-iphone> sudo rm -rf /
[06:29] <sweat> andydam: totem
[06:29] <sweat> orwells-iphone: that r is supposed to be uppercase
[06:30] <orwells-iphone> Try it
[06:31] <zykotick9> !danger
[06:31] <andydam> sweat, nothing.
[06:32] <andydam> I'm not getting any sound.
[06:32] <sweat> orwells-iphone: i might do sudo time rm... it'd be neat to see how long it takes
[06:33] <andydam> Anything else I can do to try to get it working?
[06:33] <Trasp> is it possible to get a machine to automatically log in to a user and run the command startx at boot?
[06:34] <andydam> epic rage
[06:34]  * andydam throws keyboard at wall.
[06:34] <zykotick9> Trasp, inorder to get autologin working I've only ever seen that work with GDM, best of luck though
[06:35] <Trasp> crap...
[06:35] <Trasp> well... is it possible to start fluxbox from gdm?
[06:35] <zykotick9> Trasp, yes, but i haven't done it in a LONG time.
[06:35] <Trasp> and do I have to install a shitload of librarys to get gdm working?
[06:35] <blargh_> what the hell - i am trying to create a 2.3GB ISO with brasero. all it does is create an image checksum and then finish with a 2.0 MB ISO file ...
[06:36] <Trasp> zykotick9, that's a relief atleast
[06:36] <sweat> i think andy had the usermod command in reverse.. i gave it to him the right way
[06:36] <zykotick9> Trasp, probably a lot less work just to log in ;
[06:37] <Trasp> zykotick9, want my bitcoinminer to kick up on boot since I won't be around the machines too much and someone else might have to reboot them if something happens
[06:37] <Trasp> zykotick9, yeah, but I've got my reasons as mentioned :/
[06:37] <Trasp> And diablominer which performs best on my machine must be run on X
[06:38] <kingmilo> hi gents. I am booting the Alternate Install medium, however I dont think my graphics card is capable of displaying the nice install options so i only get install and expert install but my real goal is to install ltsp, so how do i tell my install i want to install ltsp from the lesser install options menu?
[06:39] <zykotick9> kingmilo, you are aware that Alternate is text only?
[06:40] <kingmilo> zykotick9, yes, but before that you get the normal install menu, nice graphical menu where u can choose ur install and then it will drop to text when i select ltsp. The problem is the nice graphical install menu cannot be displayed so i get a text install menu without the ltsp install option if that makes sense?
[06:41] <kingmilo> so how do i specify i want an ltsp install from the text boot/install menu?
[06:41] <zykotick9> kingmilo, i'm not familiar with ltsp sorry.
[06:41] <kingmilo> :/
[06:42] <e_t_> I thought you had to use either Edubuntu or Ubuntu Server to get the ltsp option.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> e_t_: you can install server apps on the desktop if you wish
[06:44] <kingmilo> e_t_, you can use the Edubuntu, but the Alternate is where normal ltsp is and thats how that is installed
[06:45] <melrockz> xchat install from source: configure: error: "Cannot find glib"
[06:45] <zykotick9> melrockz, why on earth are you installing xchat from source?
[06:46] <melrockz> oops, sorry, I'll look in Synaptic.
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> melrockz: you'll need the build deps too. Xchat is in the repos though
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> !info xchat
[06:49] <sweat> melrockz: apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[06:50] <andrewh192> hey, is there any way to tell what version (32 or 64) i have?
[06:50] <sweat> melrockz: just about anything you need is lib something dev.. library and development respectively
[06:50] <andrewh192> 32bit or 64bit?
[06:50] <zykotick9> andrewh192, "uname -m"
[06:50] <melrockz> Thanks for the help, guys! It's done, I'm out...
[06:50] <soulis77-SE> Hi On ubuntu 10.04 i "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk  sun-java6-plugin" which worked without any errors. But then I try to change from JDK to SUN with: sudo update-java-alternatives -l   and then sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun  I get error that pluginappletviewer doesn't excist.
[06:51] <andrewh192> i686
[06:51] <andrewh192> which means what?
[06:51] <zykotick9> andrew_46, 32bit
[06:51] <andrewh192> gotcha
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> andrewh192: i686 = 32bit   x86_64 = 64bit
[06:51] <andrewh192> kewl
[06:53] <soulis77-SE> My question is that i searched and two things should be installed: sun-java6-plugin or hotspot. still don't work. Any suggestions?
[06:53] <KonataFB> anyone willing to help a former windows user with setting up vnc (or similar) so that it works even on the logon screen
[06:54] <KonataFB> i've settup ssh and smaba so once I can get a remote GUI I can move this computer thats gonna be used as a large nas out of teh way
[06:54] <KonataFB> samba*
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> soulis77-SE: in Google type: natty java    and hit the I'm feeling lucky button. Great ppa for java :-,
[06:54] <sweat> soulis77-SE: openjre, icedtea-plugin
[06:55] <blargh_> should i install the boot files to /dev/sdc or /dev/sdc1?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> KonataFB: you can manage samba via ssh
[06:55] <sweat> sdc is the disk, the entire disk
[06:55] <sweat> and not a partition
[06:56] <blargh_> sweat: okay
[06:57] <soulis77-SE> ActionParsnip: The first results where for ubuntu 11.04
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> soulis77-SE: which release are you using?
[06:58] <soulis77-SE> 10.04
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> soulis77-SE: the ppa has java for lucid too
[06:58] <KonataFB> ActionParsnip: if I had to, I installed teh gui to add teh users out of lazyness
[06:58] <Tommy_nmw> who could help in EVDO connection?
[06:58] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, FYI due to search "bubbles", "I'm feeling luck" will have different results for different users.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> KonataFB: makes a more secure system if you use ssh ;)
[06:59] <soulis77-SE> Well I have followed the installation (same as I used) But it did display the pluginapplet...
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: i thought it was consistent, what makes it change?
[07:00] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip, for DDG's explanation see http://dontbubble.us/
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> soulis77-SE: add the partner repo in software centre too, you can get java there too
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: thanks I didn't think pigeons liked bubbles
[07:01] <KonataFB> ACtionParsnip: true, mainly just wanted a gui as a slighly smoother transition, sicne all my systems at windows bar the server.
[07:02] <soulis77-SE> ActionParsnip: I have added it. I don't have problem with installation. It is after that Im missing a plugin. The plugin that I after searching should have installed with the installation procedure.
[07:04] <soulis77-SE> ActionParsnip: I use sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin  and after lots of text I have no erros.
[07:05] <bawn> hey, how do I  upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04
[07:06] <introuble>  if i have www.myname.com  register at A-comany and hosted at B-company, is it possible to host www.staff.myname.com at C-comany  while www.myname.com also stays at A-company ?
[07:06] <introuble> will i have to point (from domain registrar) control panel (A-company) for two different records. one for myname.com for b-comp  and second for staff.myname.com for c-comp ?
[07:07] <FloodBot1> introuble: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <soulis77-SE> sudo update-java-alternatives -l   displays:   java-6-openjdk 1061 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk  and java-6-sun 63 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[07:07] <Trasp> Hm.. anyone knows how to enable autologin on gdm from commandline? obviously /etc/gdm/gdm.conf which all forums direct to doesn't exist anymore...
[07:07] <bawn> hey, how do I  upgrade from 9.04 to 10.04
[07:08] <soulis77-SE> sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun   displays:    update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for pluginappletviewer.
[07:09] <sweat> bawn: few ways to do that, the easiest is to install update-manager-core and then sudo do-dist-up
[07:09] <sweat> do-dist-upgrade
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: filterbubbles sound pretty cool
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> !eol | Bawn
[07:11] <eli__> is there a channel for singing and music advice?
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> eli__: #music  maybe
[07:11] <Kaco2> eli__, /join #music ?
[07:11] <sweat> bawn: you can also obtain a cd of the alternate and then gksu 'sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade'
[07:12] <sweat> bawn: you would need to have gksudo installed and be in X to issue that
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Bawn: i'd recommend a clean install, you'll have fewer issues
[07:12] <dc5ala> soulis77-SE, i get a few errors too switching java versions but the switch itself works, see java -version
[07:15] <breaker313> Hi. Has someone instructions how to chroot user who use the ssetm via sftp?
[07:15] <breaker313> ssetm == system
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> soulis77-SE: you will need to close all web browsers then cold start a fresh browser to load the plugin
[07:16] <soulis77-SE> ActionParsnip: It is a server. No browsers loaded on it. I run everything with ssh.
[07:17] <sweat> bawn: i meant do-release-upgrade
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> soulis77-SE: gotcha
[07:17] <soulis77-SE> But the update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun worked. The correct java is now default but I don't like errors.. :)
[07:18] <eli__> no
[07:18] <eli__> that channel didn't work
[07:18] <eli__> :(
[07:20] <checoimg> My first time on this channel
[07:20] <sweat> welcome
[07:20] <checoimg> Thank you
[07:21] <Trasp> hm... how do I tell xterm (or some other terminal under x) to start and run a specific command? (I want to run a program on boot, and still be able to see it's output) I do NOT want to use "screen"
[07:21] <checoimg> I have used Ubuntu since Hardy and now I came here
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> eli__: your client will be able to list the channels available.
[07:21] <eli__> ok
[07:21] <checoimg> Thank you sweat
[07:22] <dc5ala> Trasp, redirect the commands output to a file?
[07:22] <Tommy_nmw> who will help me in EVDO connection?
[07:22] <checoimg> Does some one knows the right apt-get command to install XFCE 4 ?
[07:23] <godofmischief> really having the worst luck apps i launch show up for a flash then disappear in the background.
[07:23] <zykotick9> checoimg, doesn't "sudo apt-get install xfce4" work?
[07:23] <godofmischief> like for example firefox, dolphin, terminal
[07:24] <checoimg> ok
[07:24] <Trasp> dc5ala, well... that's not an option
[07:24] <sweat> Trasp: a command at boot.. create a script, something like exec whatever flags, name it, stick it in /etc/init.d and then update-rc.d nameofthatscript defaults
[07:24] <NCS_One> hi
[07:24] <godofmischief> im about to pull my hair out.
[07:24] <checoimg> it worked zykotic9 Thank you very much!
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> breaker313: possibly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057657
[07:24] <checoimg> Don't pull your hair :P
[07:24] <Trasp> sweat, The important thing was to run it in a terminal...
[07:24] <zykotick9> !tab > checoimg
[07:25] <zykotick9> Trasp, "gnome-terminal -e foo.sh" maybe?
[07:25] <checoimg> where did you send it ubotu?
[07:25] <checoimg> ubottu*
[07:25] <NCS_One> do Î have to install something to play mkv files ok? On Totem I'm getting alot of Aborted
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> checoimg: in a new tab in your client
[07:26] <zykotick9> checoimg, ubottu is a bot - i just wanted to let you know you can use TAB to complete Nicks - you typoed mine
[07:26] <Trasp> zykotick9, I do not use gnome :/
[07:26] <checoimg> Install VLC in the meanwhile NCS_One
[07:26] <e_t_> NCS_One, mkv is a container format. If you're getting an abort, it's probably a codec problem.
[07:26] <checoimg> Ok I just saw itubottu
[07:26] <dc5ala> Trasp, ah okay, i misunderstood, with "boot" i have something else in mind ;)
[07:26] <zykotick9> Trasp, xterm has the same -e option
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> NCS_One: you may need w32codecs from medibuntu (i assume 32bit OS)
[07:27] <duhamelski> hello, somehow my ubuntu computer has lost communication with my debian fileserver.  all other computers on my network can communicate with eachother except for these two.  does anyone know how to debug this??
[07:27] <breaker313> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll take a look into that
[07:27] <checoimg> Thank you Ubottu!
[07:27] <NCS_One> e_t_: what do you recommend?
[07:27] <Trasp> zykotick9, Nice =) thanks!
[07:27] <NCS_One> ActionParsnip: no, 64
[07:27] <sweat> Trasp: i supposed you could adjust your .bashrc to execute a terminal on bootup
[07:27] <zykotick9> NCS_One, fyi mkv is a container so it can have lots of different codecs inside - there is a w64codecs in medibuntu as well
[07:28] <checoimg> duhamelski,  have t=you tried the repair mode when you enter grub?
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> duhamelski: can you ping dns and gateway. Can you ping the server via name or ip?
[07:28] <duhamelski> no
[07:28] <com64> I'm having trouble transcoding with mencoder. I get "Audio LAVC, couldn't find encoder for codec libfaac."
[07:28] <duhamelski> everyone else can but i cant ping or ssh
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> NCS_One: then w64codecs
[07:28] <checoimg> zykotick9,  htnkyou about the bot
[07:28] <checoimg> thank you*
[07:29] <Trasp> sweat, I wanted to know how to run a terminal and make it terminal run a specific command, I know how to xinit and else, but zykotick9  helped me
[07:29] <NCS_One> ok, thanks all
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> duhamelski: by both name and ip does it fail?
[07:29] <zykotick9> com64, if you are trying to make MP4 files i'd recommend using Handbrake, AAC is crippled in the default Ubuntu repo
[07:29] <duhamelski> yep
[07:29] <com64> k thanks.
[07:29] <com64> I'm actually trying to transcode to a format that the PSP can play.
[07:30] <duhamelski> ActionParsnip: any clue for debugging this?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> duhamelski: can you ping your default gateway?
[07:30] <zykotick9> com64, i'd guess Handbrake would work for that (but i don't have a PSP so can't be sure)
[07:30] <checoimg> NCS_One, non-free-codes form medibuntu
[07:30] <com64> where do I get handbrake?
[07:30] <sandstorm> hello I've installed ubuntu with wubi and after booting into ubuntu I am getting errors such as: "Bad LUN (0:1) Bad Target Number (1:0)" etc. and it is whining about radeon graphics card. what might be the problem? Thanks.
[07:30] <zykotick9> com64, there is a PPA
[07:30] <duhamelski> ActionParsnip: i assume you are talking about my router... yes
[07:30] <zykotick9> !ppa > com64
[07:30] <duhamelski> ActionParsnip: i can ping every computer on my network except for this one
[07:31] <duhamelski> ActionParsnip: and every computer on my network can ping my server... and me... except mine
[07:31] <checoimg> NCS_One,  w64codecs is the exact name of the package
[07:31] <checoimg> I have it installed
[07:31] <checoimg> from medibuntu
[07:32] <acca3003> #mas_de_40
[07:32] <NCS_One> checoimg: thanks
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> duhamelski: if you manually add a route does it work?
[07:33] <checoimg> NCS_One,  youe welcome
[07:33] <duhamelski> ActionParsnip: how do you do that?
[07:33] <checoimg> I'm trying to get XFCE to work with Compiz
[07:33] <checoimg> It crashes sometimes
[07:34] <checoimg> And XFCE works better in the video drivers for me
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> duhamelski: there are sample route commands online. I'm on my phone and its not so fast but you can add a route to the individual host it may be ok
[07:35] <duhamelski> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:35] <checoimg> sandstorm, I can't help you there maybe googling a little bit for those errors. Since when do you use UBuntu?
[07:36] <Fudge> how can i specify nameservers in my interfaces file?
[07:37] <sweat> Fudge: well i'm not saying you can't input them there but i think they belong in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:37] <e-DIO-t> yo!
[07:38] <e_t_> Fudge: add a line like "dns-nameservers x.x.x.x"
[07:38] <Fudge> thank you
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> duhamelski: worth a try. You can always remove it or reboot to revert
[07:38] <zykotick9> e_t_, it's "nameserver x.x.x.x" Fudge
[07:38] <checoimg> Does someone knows where are the configuration files for the Monitor settings tool?
[07:39] <checoimg> I need to set the two monitor s to work together again
[07:39] <e_t_> zykotick9: That's what you'd put in /etc/resolv.conf, but that's not what Fudge asked about.
[07:40] <zykotick9> e_t_, Fudge sorry my bad.  I didn't know you could but nameservers in the interface file.
[07:41] <e_t_> It's not especially well documented.
[07:41] <rooted-insideme> anyone know a good free bandwith monitor to watch how much bandwith is being used?
[07:41] <Fudge> i dont see it documented in interfaces man page
[07:42] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: is gnome-system-monitor not sufficient?
[07:42] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: it's for my esxi server
[07:43] <e_t_> Fudge: so I said. I only discovered it after a lot of Googling.
[07:43] <Fudge> thank you, works nice
[07:43] <Fudge> my router has a problem with dns cache so at times resolvc.conv is overwriteen etc, but this solves my problem
[07:45] <Tommy_nmw> who can help me my EVDO connection ?
[07:45] <e_t_> !info iptraf | rooted-insideme
[07:45] <MACscr> if I want an app to run as a particular user, i need to create that user first. Right? Is there a way to create the user without it adding a home folder and giving it ssh privs, etc?
[07:45] <checoimg> ubottu is  abot
[07:45] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: I know about iptraf
[07:45] <checoimg> a bot
[07:46] <rooted-insideme> but that doesn't monitor your how much bandwith you're using/month
[07:46] <bawn> thx actionparsnip
[07:46] <checoimg> y secondary monitor is not working fine with gnome
[07:46] <checoimg> 'm on ubuntu studio
[07:47] <Flannel> MACscr: You can create a user without a home directory.  There are a few ways to deny a user the ability to login via ssh.
[07:48] <checoimg> gnome-display-properties   don't see this package in synaptic
[07:48] <sweat> in fedora there's a way to input nameservers in the interface file.. dns1= and dns2=
[07:48] <rkhshm> i installed vmware on 11.04 and its horrible.
[07:48] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: for something like that, you might need munin, cacti, nagios, or similar.
[07:48] <rkhshm> everything time i try to set up a feature it quits
[07:48] <rkhshm> has anyone faced this issue? or is there a soluion?
[07:48] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: like cpanel type deal?
[07:49] <e_t_> Well, I imagine cpanel might have those as options, but they're independed packages.
[07:49] <e_t_> They're all network monitoring-type apps.
[07:53] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: what would you recommand out of the muin, cacti, nagios?
[07:54] <phaidros> heya, lately I had a weather widget/applet within indicator, next to the clock.
[07:54] <phaidros> but I cannot find it anymore .. 11.04 .. any hints?
[07:55] <wabznasm> phaidros: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/my-weather-indicator-new-ubuntu-weather.html
[07:55] <wabznasm> phaidros: though there are a couple at least
[07:57] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: guessing based on (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems), I'd go with cacti.
[07:57] <phaidros> wabznasm: yeah I know, but I am specifically looking for the one coupled to the clock, it came with stock ubuntu, though. because the standalone applet fails here with compiz and even doesnt find its location database and such
[07:57] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: ty bud
[07:58] <wabznasm> phaidros: nah - that one kept working/failing depending on the revision with me to, so maybe poor recommendation
[07:58] <phaidros> :)
[07:58] <sweat> rooted-insideme: i'm just a desktop user--icewm has me covered with a netstat icon in the bottom of the screen for bandwidth ups and downs
[07:58] <wabznasm> phaidros: go conky?
[07:58] <phaidros> If I remember correctly I had within the clock thingie in gnomepanel/indicator a button "shwo weather also" or alike ..
[07:59] <phaidros> wabznasm: nah, conky is nice, but pointless if gnome panel is running lotsa stuff already
[08:00] <wabznasm> phaidros: fairy nuff. I just ditched gnome so an other may have a better suggestion
[08:01] <phaidros> wabznasm: heh, I'd go for i3 or ion3 if I'd find the time to get really used to it, maybe with conky. all others like awesome and friends I didnt like too much
[08:02] <wabznasm> phaidros: 3rd day with awesome here...interesting
[08:02] <phaidros> and for sure, gnome is bloated , but kde is ugly (imho, no pun to any reader here!, xfce isnt as lightweight as it used to be, and lxde is nice but not quite there feature and usability wise ..)
[08:02] <phaidros> so, for daily use I stick to it .. and I want this darn weather thing back :D
[08:02] <phaidros> !!
[08:03] <Tommy_nmw> hi
[08:03] <wabznasm> phaidros: then I defer to the better informed others
[08:03] <lonix> Cant say i like unity much
[08:03] <phaidros> lonix: agreed
[08:03] <Tommy_nmw> how to mark city on marks.ubuntu.com ?
[08:03] <markskil1eck> Hey, guys. Any idea why the compiz isn't placing windows in 11.04?
[08:04] <lonix> phaidros: i guess i have to look for a new desktop enviorment as of 11.10
[08:04] <phaidros> lonix: you just can use gnome classic, so unity doesnt get fired up
[08:04] <wabznasm> lonix: pretty much the stage I got to. I did think unity was attractive, but too cumbersome for mwe
[08:04] <phaidros> wait, you said 11.10 .. they'll ditch gnome classic ?
[08:05] <rooted-insideme> ok I have two nics in my router, eth0 is internet and eth1 I want to run a dhcp server, how do I configure eth1 to load up and be a dhcp server?
[08:05] <lonix> i thouth they where gonna remove ubuntu ubuntu classic then
[08:05] <Tommy_nmw> how to mark city on maps.ubuntu.com ?
[08:05] <markskil1eck> If they remove classic, I will burn them to the ground.
[08:05] <lonix> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/ubuntu-1110-will-not-ship-with-classic.html
[08:06] <TrevInc> lonix: I quit ubuntu forever. Thank you
[08:07] <lonix> Fallback will be unity 2d
[08:07] <tester>  Hi there any one got coffee and ready for this one.
[08:08] <ejo> whatever... I'm happy with ubuntu but switched to xmonad for my window manager
[08:08] <lasertroid> T
[08:08] <lasertroid> Hi
[08:09] <phaidros> rooted-insideme: look for /etc/network/interfaces and configure your eth1, then configure in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd or alike your dhcp3 server to listen on that interface, you can probably check /etc/default/dhcp* for standard settings before
[08:09] <lonix> witch is still to "baby" for my taste i want a more direct control, rather than the point and click, fullscreen thing
[08:09] <rooted-insideme> phaidros: thanks bro
[08:09] <tester> I am devopling a os and it is in gnome 2 and kde plasma with a bunch of programs and when I make a iso of the the os It goes to defult kde
[08:10] <tester> when I try to use remastersys to back up the whole system it says that I need to clean to
[08:10] <e-DIO-t> yo!
[08:11] <tester> but the option for friends it works but reverts back to kde dfult
[08:11] <tester> I have tried to move the .gnome file and .kde file but I think I may have screwed up
[08:12] <tester> I moved it to /usr/share/applications/ but still nothing
[08:13] <tester> all of the programs are under lost and found after I make the iso ????
[08:13] <TrevInc> Where would be the proper forum for letting Canonical know how much I hate Unity?
[08:14] <tester> TREllis, Kubuntu lubutnu
[08:14] <rooted-insideme> phaidros: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643105/ that should work right?
[08:14] <rooted-insideme> for the interfaces file
[08:14] <tester> jk
[08:14] <tester> so are there devs here right now or not
[08:14] <TrevInc> Never mind.
[08:14] <TrevInc> I'd just like to take this opportunity in a public Ubuntu forum to say I'm switching back to Debian. Also, Unity sucks and I hate it, and I'm not alone in that. Thank you, have a good night.
[08:14] <phaidros> rooted-insideme: looks ok
[08:14] <FloodBot1> TrevInc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <th0r> TrevInc: bye
[08:15] <tester> ohh and I am using ubuntu 10.10 with a beefed up kernel
[08:15] <tester> 2.6.38-8-generic
[08:15] <rooted-insideme> hhmm the dhclient.conf file looks a little confusing :/
[08:16] <maoanz> Ubuntu laptop can still start even with few battery left. it causes the loss of data with laptop is in sleeping mode. does anyone have a solution for that ?
[08:17] <maoanz> Windows can avoid resume when not enough battery left.
[08:17] <jenny83> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu. Is there anything like photoshop?
[08:17] <maoanz> Gimp
[08:17] <wabznasm> jenny83: gimp
[08:17] <tester> maoanz, if you lost daya look at scaple
[08:17] <lonix> jenny83: gimp
[08:18] <maoanz> what is scaple ?
[08:18] <jenny83> how do I install it?
[08:18] <tester> a data recovery program
[08:18] <lonix> jenny83: sudo apt-get install gimp
[08:18] <tester> mao  data recovery program
[08:18] <tester> maoanz,   data recovery program *
[08:18] <lonix> bye all doeing dist upgrade from 8.04 to 11.04
[08:19] <jenny83> thanks
[08:19] <tester> jenny83, look at script fu also for other tools in gimp
[08:19] <kapcom01> hello, is there a general problem with 11.04 and screencasting?
[08:19] <jenny83> ok
[08:20] <shyam> is there a task manager in ubuntu like in windows?
[08:20] <shyam> thanks
[08:20] <maoanz> not only problem of loss of data. when laptop is in sleep, it has many windows opened. I need to keep these windows.
[08:20] <th0r> shyam: top
[08:20] <th0r> shyam: or ps
[08:20] <kapcom01> shyam, yes there is. system monitor
[08:20] <maoanz> I wonder if it's possible to do like in Windows, to avoid resume when not enough battery.
[08:20] <rooted-insideme> phaidros: looks like dhcp server isnt' installed
[08:20] <rooted-insideme> just dhcp-client
[08:21] <phaidros> rooted-insideme: so, install it? try "aptitude search dhcp | grep server" choose one and install it
[08:21] <shyam> is it how we can regain control of system when it hangs..using the system monitor?
[08:22] <rooted-insideme> yeah i am
[08:22] <tester> shyam, ctrl+alt+f2 then sign in then enter password then so a sudo /ect/init.d/gdm restart
[08:23] <namelixiu> 官网下载的liveusb-creater,解压后 没有./configure文件，有Makefile文件。
[08:23] <namelixiu> ＃make 通过，最后一句：“removing 'liveusb-creator-3.11.1' (and everything under it)
[08:23] <namelixiu> ”
[08:23] <namelixiu> ＃make install，显示“make: *** 没有规则可以创建目标“install”。 停止。”
[08:23] <kapcom01> shyam, if everything hangs including system monitor then I usually press CTRL+ALT+F1 which takes me to a shell terminal and there I can type "sudo service gdm restart" to restart the whole desktop
[08:23] <FloodBot1> namelixiu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:23] <bridean> I can't get the java plugin to work with firefox
[08:23] <tester> shyam, also do a top when you are in the cli to see what is making it hang
[08:23] <namelixiu> ＃make 通过，最后一句：“removing 'liveusb-creator-3.11.1' (and everything under it)
[08:23] <namelixiu> ”
[08:23] <namelixiu> ＃make install，显示“make: *** 没有规则可以创建目标“install”。 停止。”
[08:23] <tester> shyam, also do a "top" when you are in the cli to see what is making it hang *
[08:24] <nightrid3r> !cn | namelixiu
[08:25] <tester> My operating system being tested in vbox http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoS3BRavl8
[08:25] <sandstorm> checoimg: I just started using it but I already googled the errors, no solutions.
[08:26] <tester> it is slow because it is 3.9 gigs out of the box
[08:26] <bazhang> tester, how does your own OS relate to ubuntu support
[08:26] <rooted-insideme> YAY adding eth1 to the interfaces broke now there's no internet on the box
[08:26] <tester> bazhang, it is Ubuntu at the core
[08:27] <tester> And alwas will be
[08:27] <bazhang> tester, its a derivative, not Ubuntu
[08:27] <tester> Yes sir
[08:27] <tester> Is there something wrong with that ?
[08:27] <bazhang> tester, its offtopic here. try sharing with #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:28] <tester> bazhang, what is off topic I am asking about remastersys but I will ask there too
[08:29] <bazhang> tester, creating your own personal OS is fine, buts its not supported here, so offtopic
[08:30] <bazhang> tester, remastersys from where
[08:30] <tester> bazhang, what if some one wants to back up there system ???
[08:30] <Polysics> hello
[08:30] <tester> bazhang, look up
[08:30] <Polysics> newbie question
[08:30] <Polysics> is there a way to "bookmark" SSH connections on the command line?
[08:30] <bazhang> !info remastersys | tester
[08:31] <ikonia> tester: building a derivative and backing up a machine are two totally seperate tasks
[08:31] <Polysics> so i do not have to type the whole user@address thing?
[08:31] <Trasp> whatever I do, the more problems I run into
[08:31] <Polysics> i know, i am lazy :-D
[08:31] <tester>  I am devopling a os and it is in gnome 2 and kde plasma with a bunch of programs and when I make a iso of the the os It goes to defult kde  when I try to use remastersys to back up the whole system it says that I need to clean  I have tried to move the .gnome file and .kde file but I think I may have screwed up I moved it to /usr/share/applications/ but still nothing
 all of the programs are under lost and found after I make the iso ????  ohh and I am using ubuntu 10.10 with a beefed up kernel
 2.6.38-8-generic
[08:32] <tester> sorry that was ment for bazhang
[08:32] <zykotick9> Polysics, you could create a script, or use "history | grep ssh" to see previous connections you've used.
[08:32] <th0r> Polysics: you can write a simple script that contains the command line. Put it in /usr/local/bin and make sure you change it to be executable
[08:32] <bazhang> tester, then contact the remastersys people
[08:32] <zykotick9> th0r, ~/bin would be better
[08:32] <Polysics> yeah, a bash script looks the easiest
[08:32] <Polysics> thanks
[08:32] <sandstorm> hello I've installed ubuntu with wubi and after booting into ubuntu I am getting errors such as: "Bad LUN (0:1) Bad Target Number (1:0)" etc. and it is whining about radeon graphics card. what might be the problem? google and such returns no results. Thanks.
[08:32] <tester> bazhang, It is because I am a White hat >?
[08:33] <ikonia> tester: no, stop now, this is your final warning
[08:33] <Trasp> I'm starting an application through ~/fluxbox/startup (xterm -e /home/trasp/dir/application -foo -bar) but it complain over that it can't find the OpenCL-librarys and I can't figure out why... The program runs just fine if i start it manually
[08:33] <th0r> zykotick9: yes, but that won't be in the path I think
[08:33] <bazhang> tester, pardon?
[08:33] <zykotick9> th0r, actually it is
[08:33] <ikonia> tester: this topic is not for #ubuntu, do you fully understand
[08:33] <tester> Yes I understand
[08:33] <Marg2010> exit
[08:33] <ikonia> tester: ok, then please stop discussing it
[08:34] <th0r> zykotick9: ah....ubuntu I guess. running debian so my world is a bit different <smile>
[08:34] <bridean> Where can I ask about firefox?
[08:35] <tester> ikonia, but I was honest I could have said How to back up my sys with out talking about any thing else that is all I have to say GREAT SUPPORT
[08:35] <Trasp> zykotick9, You've been helpful earlier, no ideas on this one?
[08:35] <ikonia> tester: no you couldn't it still wouldn't have been supported
[08:35] <bazhang> bridean, how did you install the plugin, from where, and which one
[08:35] <explosion123> Does anyone of you know why my monitor is 1360x768, but when i set the resolution to that, the screen is too wide?
[08:35] <zykotick9> th0r, actually, same on Debian
[08:36] <zykotick9> Trasp, sorry no.
[08:36] <MACscr> ok, so i have a particular app on my ubuntu system running as user foo, but my regular user is bar that i create all my files with, etc. I have a folder that i add new files to all the time on the fly and i need to make sure user foo has access to them. I am assuming i need to do something with chown/chmod. But not 100% sure and even more, not sure how to do it and make sure i dont have to manually do anything to the files every time i 
[08:36] <th0r> zykotick9: darn if it isn't! learn something new every day <smile>
[08:36] <Trasp> ;/
[08:37] <explosion123> Does anyone of you know why my monitor is 1360x768, but when i set the resolution to that, the screen is too wide?
[08:38] <bridean> bazhang, I tried creating a symbolic link to the latest jrd
[08:38] <bridean> jre
[08:38] <bazhang> bridean, did you install the plugin after enabling the partner repo? the sun-java6-  one?
[08:39] <bazhang> bridean, thats not the one you want then
[08:39] <bazhang> !partner | bridean
[08:39] <bazhang> !java | bridean
[08:39] <bridean> bazhang, I think so
[08:39] <Polysics> who defines THEMSELVES as "white hat" or "black hat" or "whatever hat"?
[08:39] <Polysics> well, aside from red hat .-d
[08:39] <bazhang> Polysics, offtopic here
[08:40] <bazhang> Polysics, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:40] <explosion123> I'm grey hat :P
[08:40] <Polysics> bazhang, it just was a rethorical question, it's like calling yourself "a very nice person" yourself. anyway, ok :-D
[08:41] <Trasp> Do you guys know any other way to autostart a program when starting X (fluxbox) except from the ~/fluxbox/startup-file?
[08:41] <Polysics> what would be a very-lightweight DE that is still sort of familiar to a windows user? i want to recover an old laptop for my wife
[08:41] <xastey> i'm having an odd problem.. when I open up the term and try to ls it just locks up
[08:42] <xastey> seems to happen every so often
[08:42] <explosion123> Polysics: Puppy?
[08:42] <bazhang> Polysics, no idea , as thats totally opinion, but lightweight is lubuntu-desktop (lxde and openbox)
[08:42] <th0r> Trasp: used to be able to do it in ~/.profile or ~/.login
[08:42] <explosion123> Puppy Linux i think
[08:42] <xastey> wonder if my hd is going to sleep or something
[08:42] <Polysics> puppy is a whole distro
[08:42] <bazhang> explosion123, this is ubuntu please recommend ubuntu solutions
[08:42] <Trasp> th0r, thanks, i'll put it to google :)
[08:43] <explosion123> Sorry
[08:43] <Polysics> the machine is a P4 with 512Mb of RAM, i think some flavor of Ubuntu should run
[08:43] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Polysics
[08:43] <Polysics> cool, i didn't know it existed! looks like a perfect fit, thanks
[08:43] <koichirose> Hello. I edited /etc/environment to put in some environment variables. Now I can't login to ubuntu anymore. I write my password at login, the screen goes fuzzy for a moment then I'm back at the login screen. What can I do?
[08:44] <pepi_> hi i need help how to install 2 packages (private if possible) thank you!
[08:44] <bazhang> pepi_, ask here
[08:45] <th0r> koichirose: you will probably need to try to reset /etc/environment. Just so you know...those new definitions should probably have gone into .bashrc
[08:46] <koichirose> th0r, -_- why does it say not recommended here, then? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Session-wide%20environment%20variables
[08:46] <koichirose> th0r, and below it says 'should be placed into /etc/environment'
[08:47] <pepi_> i need to install java
[08:47] <bazhang> pepi_, the browser plugins?
[08:47] <pepi_> i downloaded it with firefox in the default download directory
[08:47] <th0r> koichirose: right...for a system change that would be the proper place to put it I guess
[08:47] <bazhang> pepi_, that is not the way to install things in Ubuntu
[08:47] <pepi_> it is called jre-6u26-linux-i586-rpm.bin
[08:47] <pepi_> okay, so i delete that?
[08:48] <bazhang> pepi_, yes
[08:48] <pepi_> okay
[08:48] <koichirose> th0r, anyway I'm stuck now. Can't even get into recovery console
[08:48] <pepi_> well, i have another file there too, it's called opera_11.50.1074_i386.deb
[08:48] <bazhang> pepi_, install from the synaptic package manager
[08:48] <pepi_> i need to install opera (the web browser)
[08:48] <zolgar> IS there a way to get DVD's to play on Ubuntu 11.04? I keep getting an error about how a decryption library is not installed.
[08:49] <pepi_> what i do in the synaptic?
[08:49] <bazhang> zolgar, libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org
[08:49] <th0r> koichirose: you can boot up a livecd...mount the hard drive to a mount point from the livecd, then edit the file from there
[08:50] <pepi_> bazhang ?
[08:50] <bazhang> pepi_, you want the java plugin for opera? or is this a separate issue
[08:50] <koichirose> I hoped I could get into the terminal directly.. downloading ubuntu now.
[08:51] <th0r> zolgar: you probably need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[08:51] <pepi_> i need to install 2 things: opera and java
[08:51] <zolgar> Would DL'ing Ubuntu Restricted Extras from the software center help?
[08:52] <bazhang> pepi_, just checking on opera, the java is in the partner repo
[08:53] <bazhang> !partner | pepi_
[08:53] <pepi_> i write that in terminal?
[08:53] <bazhang> zolgar, not that I'm aware. you need the libdvdcss2 for that from medibuntu.org
[08:54] <zolgar> bazhang: okay
[08:54] <bazhang> pepi_, or go into synaptic package manager and enable the partner repo
[08:54] <zolgar> bazhang: okay i got it as a tar.gz file. do i extract it then run something?
[08:54] <bazhang> pepi_, once you have reloaded the packages list, then search for java
[08:55] <bazhang> zolgar, its a .deb from medibuntu.org
[08:55] <pepi_> from where i enable it
[08:55] <gaurav_natty> my mircophone is not working i think in alsamixer some setting r distrubed
[08:55] <bazhang> pepi_, do you have synaptic package manager open in front of you?
[08:55] <pepi_> yes
[08:55] <zolgar> bazhang: my bad dl'd the source XD
[08:56] <th0r> zolgar: there should be an ubuntu page about adding medibuntu to synaptic
[08:56] <sandstorm> hello I've installed ubuntu with wubi and after booting into ubuntu I am getting errors such as: "Bad LUN (0:1) Bad Target Number (1:0)" etc. and it is whining about radeon graphics card. what might be the problem? google and such returns no results. Thanks.
[08:56] <zolgar> bazhang: would a restart be in order?
[08:56] <jnsl_> how can i update to the latest version of tar?
[08:56] <bazhang> pepi_, see the tabs?
[08:56] <bazhang> pepi_, the tab that says 'other software'?
[08:57] <pepi_> jeh
[08:57] <zolgar> bazhang: guess not. its working :D thanks tons
[08:57] <bazhang> th0r, he can just dl the deb, no need for the repo
[08:57] <bazhang> pepi_, so click the tab other software, put a check on the canonical partners
[08:58] <pepi_> alright
[08:58] <gaurav_natty> my mirocphone is not woking
[08:58] <bazhang> gaurav_natty, adjust in alsamixer then
[08:58] <pepi_> there is several javas, which one im supposed to instal?
[08:58] <bazhang> pepi_, close that window, then hit reload
[08:58] <pepi_> install*
[08:59] <bazhang> pepi_, did you update the sources yet? ie reload?
[08:59] <pepi_> yes
[08:59] <bazhang> pepi_, so search for the sun-java packages
[09:00] <hacking_u> is here anyone who  installed gnome 3 on natty?
[09:00] <pepi_> which i install?
[09:00] <Rouse> natty ?
[09:00] <hacking_u> i have a problem with ibus ime
[09:00] <Rouse> wats that
[09:00] <bazhang> hacking_u, probably, but its not supported, and breaks things so offtopic
[09:00] <bazhang> !gnome3 | hacking_u
[09:00] <hacking_u> okay, i got it
[09:01] <jnsl_> how can i get the latest tar version ? tar --version, gives me 1.22, if i do apt-get install tar, it says tar is latest version but on the tar homepage i read that tar exist in version 1.26
[09:01] <bazhang> !java | pepi_ please read
[09:01] <bazhang> jnsl_, why would you possibly need the latest tar
[09:02] <VictorCL2> is there anything similar to notepad++ but for ubuntu?
[09:02] <pepi_> okay got it
[09:02] <pepi_> how about the opera?
[09:02] <jnsl_> i have a module on my server that generates a tar file, but i can't read the file afterwards, says "it dosen't look like a tar file", so i wanted to try and update my version of tar on the server
[09:02] <wabznasm> VictorCL2: geany, gedit, notepad++ under wine
[09:02] <wabznasm> VictorCL2: kate
[09:03] <VictorCL2> yes .. gedit dosnt have syntax highlight
[09:04] <wabznasm> VictorCL2: addons can be obtained, but the usual opinion on the net is thatnothing is quite the same as N++
[09:04] <dc5ala> jnsl_, the problem is probably somewhere else but not in your tar version, probably corrupt file?
[09:04] <bazhang> pepi_, you got the .deb from opera homepage, right? just double click it to install
[09:04] <VictorCL2> yes I know .. they are like cheap copies :/
[09:04] <wabznasm> VictorCL2: add the usual standards of emacs, vim and gvim
[09:05] <wabznasm> VictorCL2: which is why I suggested N+ under wine. Apparently very stable
[09:05] <VictorCL2> yes .. but why do I have to emulate a windows program on linux ... I want to get confortable using linux softare
[09:05] <jnsl_> dc5ala maybe, but there are not much bug info on this, so i figured it might be something with my enviorment
[09:05] <VictorCL2> but I cant even find a decent color picker
[09:06] <new2net> yo... my clock froze, what time is it?
[09:06] <new2net> oh wait nm... can just type in "date"
[09:06] <Charybdis> 0406 am CDT
[09:07] <dc5ala> jnsl_, what does "file" say about your tar? maybe it's compressed?
[09:07] <jnsl_> it says data
[09:07] <th0r> VictorCL2: have youlooked at nedit?
[09:08] <hacking_u> humm... onerick will use gnome3 shell?
[09:08] <bazhang> hacking_u, yes. support and discussion in #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <Tricks> Alright guys
[09:09] <bazhang> hacking_u, its oneiric by the way
[09:09] <jnsl_> error i get : This does not look like a tar archive
[09:09] <jnsl_> tar: Skipping to next header
[09:09] <jnsl_> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[09:09] <hacking_u> bazhang, thx!
[09:09] <dc5ala> jnsl_, that does not look good then, it should say tar archive or identify compression algo
[09:10] <jnsl_> what would you suggest i do dc5ala? :)
[09:10] <hacking_u> bazhang, i didn't know about #ubuntu+1 channel, thx very much
[09:10] <bazhang> jnsl_, why exactly do you need the latest tar?
[09:11] <aaaaaaaaaaa> fuck
[09:11] <aaaaaaaaaaa> FUCK
[09:11] <dc5ala> jnsl_, don't know details how you creating that tar file
[09:11] <jpds> aaaaaaaaaaa: Hi.
[09:13] <Tricks> I have recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 but have been having some teething issues; firstly, the computer crashes randomly. The monitor output is completely white. Secondly, I can't use dual monitors anymore. Both monitors show the standard desk top but I can't drag windows from left to right
[09:13] <Tricks> anybody been having similar issues?
[09:14] <Tricks> my card is: GeForce 7100 GS which worked fine with Ubuntu 10
[09:14] <Incarus6> Tricks, does that issue occur only in Unity?
[09:14] <Tricks> nope both in classic and unity
[09:14] <deem> Tricks: did you checked if your card is using 2 xserver and not twinview?
[09:15] <Tricks> deem, hmm
[09:16] <Tricks> deem, this is the strange part, I've used the nVidia gui to set the monitors but when I look in Xorg I can see twin view in the file
[09:16] <Tricks> deem, shall I post the config file?
[09:16] <Tricks> deem, I don't like playing with it cos I don't want to break anything :P
[09:19] <deem> Tricks: afaik unity isn't using the xorg anymore
[09:19] <dddbmt> Hey guys. I have a folder containing the svn checkout of a project. Then I have made a link to that folder from /var/www. But I get 403 Forbidden when trying to access through webbrowser.
[09:19] <dddbmt> Where to start debug.
[09:19] <FloodBot1> dddbmt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:20] <e_t_> dddbmt: does the www-data user have read access to that directory?
[09:20] <Tricks> deem, ok so is there somewhere else I should be making the changes?
[09:21] <dddbmt> e_t_ - a "ls -l" says that it's the same user that own both /var/www and my svn folder.
[09:21] <e_t_> dddbmt: are you using Apache?
[09:22] <dddbmt> e_t_ - yes, sorry.
[09:22] <buggyer> hi guys, need help adding smb users via ldap. smbldap-populate spits out: failed to modify entry: modifications require authentication at /usr/sbin/smbldap-populate line 491, <GEN1> line 242. and smbldap-useradd tells me: Error: modifications require authentication at /usr/share/perl5/smbldap_tools.pm line 1187, <DATA> line 466.
[09:22] <jungleBust3r> Tricks, you could try creating a 10 gb partion by moving your current one with gparted (gui) installing ubuntu again and playing with that version. Not the most elegant way, yet...
[09:22] <tsimpson> dddbmt: have a look in /var/log/apache2/error.log
[09:23] <dddbmt> tsimpson: Symbolic link not allowed or link target not accessible:
[09:23] <dddbmt> ... so it's my permissions for my SVN folder that's wrong?
[09:23] <Incarus6> Tricks, are you sure you saved the nvidia-settings configuration file properly?
[09:24] <tsimpson> dddbmt: I think you probably need to add "FollowSymLinks" to the Options line for /var/www in your sites config
[09:24] <qwebirc26270> Can someone help me? -- I have Ubuntu 11.04 running on a HP Pavilion DM4 and I can't seem to get my wifi and my track pad to work or work correctly
[09:25] <dddbmt> tsimpson, http://pastebin.com/6JU8Ehdh - doesn't that look ok?
[09:26] <Incarus6> qwebirc26270, can you paste "rfkill list all"?
[09:26] <e_t_> dddbmt: instead of using a symlink, you could make an alias within the Apache config.
[09:26] <dddbmt> e_t_, okay - should I just google "Apache alias" ?
[09:26] <tsimpson> dddbmt: yeah, that looks ok. try running "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload" and see if it works
[09:27] <dddbmt> tsimpson, just restarted seconds ago.
[09:27] <dddbmt> e_t_, mod_alias ?
[09:28] <tsimpson> I'm pretty sure mod_alias is loaded by default
[09:28] <fosbin> 1
[09:28] <namelixiu> dff
[09:30] <JdGordon> I installed lxde and xorg on a base server install and lxde seems to only have one huge font... what package do i need to install to get the usual avilable fonts?
[09:30] <e_t_> dddbmt: tsimpson is probably right about mod_alias. See if this will work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643131/
[09:32] <rooted-insideme> ok im trying to get eth1 up and working and dhcp running on eth1 but I cannot get it to work
[09:32] <rooted-insideme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/643133/ is what my /etc/network/interfaces looks like
[09:33] <rooted-insideme> and I setup the dhcp-server conf to listen on eth1
[09:33] <rooted-insideme> any ideas
[09:34] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: don't assign a gateway to eth1. It will screw up your routing big time to have more than one default gateway.
[09:36] <babu__> can i able to send mess to ip address connected with my system
[09:37] <e_t_> messes should be cleaned, not shared.
[09:37] <dli> rooted-insideme, interfaces shows static IP, what's your dhcpd.conf?
[09:39] <babu__> how to find the version of jdk i'm using
[09:39] <rooted-insideme> dli: one sec
[09:40] <xubuntu-noob> Hi @ all
[09:40] <dli> babu__, java -version ?
[09:40] <a__> isconnect
[09:40] <tomek_> hi, what is good gui tool for samba configuring?
[09:40] <babu__> can i able to send mess to ip address connected with my system
[09:40] <xubuntu-noob> I have a small problem : the mounted devices in /media don't show up on my Desktop !
[09:40] <arfbtwn> tomek_: GADMIN is pretty good. Though your text editor is the best tbh
[09:40] <xubuntu-noob> It's in xubuntu but I guess it's similar ?
[09:41] <babu__> i installed jdk 1.6...how do i install/upgrade to java 7
[09:41] <dli> xubuntu-noob, do them show up in thunar?
[09:41] <xubuntu-noob> nope
[09:41] <dli> xubuntu-noob, how do you mount them in /media
[09:42] <xubuntu-noob> with fstab, like : //myserver'IP/myshare /media/myshare cifs username=uname,password=passwd 0 0
[09:42] <rooted-insideme> dli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643142/ is the dhcp server config
[09:43] <xubuntu-noob> It didnt work on startup though, I don't know why. So I unmounted and re-mounted with "sudo mount -t cifs etc" and nothing shows neither
[09:43] <lonix> that went well
[09:43] <rooted-insideme> dli: according everything I have read, im suppost to have a /etc/dhcp3 folder and I don't
[09:44] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: Are you using 11.04?
[09:44] <Tricks> Incarus6,  sorry about the delay mate. how do you mean nvidia-settings configuration file saved properly?
[09:44] <rooted-insideme> debian 6
[09:44] <shamila> i'm using huawei e220 usb modem to connect the internet how can i set up it for my ubuntu version 10.04
[09:44] <rooted-insideme> but it's the same configuration as ubuntu
[09:45] <Mark_Sketching> Hi! I'm looking for a way to bind a key stroke to <button 3>. Is there a file I can edit to set that up?
[09:45] <babu__> i want to send mess to my friends system connected to my pc over lan..
[09:45] <babu__> how to do it
[09:45] <Incarus6> Tricks, the nvidia-settings gui needs sudo rights to save the configuration under /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Don't just click on "Apply", click on "Save to X Configuration file"
[09:45] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: At least for ubuntu, the default DHCP server changed to isc-dhcp-server. The conf for that is /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf.
[09:46] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: mines in /etc/default
[09:46] <shamila> any one please help me
[09:46] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: That's not the main configuration file. Look in /etc for dhcp anything.
[09:46] <babu__> i want to send mess to my friends system connected to my pc over lan..
[09:46] <babu__> how to do it
[09:47] <rooted-insideme> aahh there it is
[09:47] <shamila> i'm using huawei e220 usb modem to connect the internet how can i set up it for my ubuntu version 10.04
[09:47] <rooted-insideme> dhcpd.conf  in /etc/dhcp
[09:48] <e_t_> babu__: there are several programs that would allow you to do that.
[09:48] <shamila> fuck you all does any one help me
[09:48] <shamila> i'm using huawei e220 usb modem to connect the internet how can i set up it for my ubuntu version 10.04
[09:48] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: I found the conf file just have to set it up
[09:49] <babu__> i want  by terminal...??my friend don't like empathy n all
[09:50] <Incarus6> !language | shamila
[09:50] <e_t_> !info talk | babu__
[09:52] <neostest> testestestestseteste
[09:53] <neostest> anybody here ?.
[09:53] <Incarus6> neostest, yes
[09:53] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643138/ that's what my /etc/network/interface looks like and now both eth0 and eth1 start up on boot and eth0 has internet
[09:53] <arfbtwn> shamila: it's an old page but might get you started http://tinyurl.com/38knuel
[09:53] <babu__> please tell the usage of talk command
[09:53] <Tricks> Incarus6,  when I try to open the fui using the command line "sudo nvidia-settings" I get probably 20 errors before it opens. Is this normal?
[09:53] <rooted-insideme> so is that ok that I have it like that or did I do it wrong?
[09:54] <Incarus6> Tricks, try gksu and ignore the errors
[09:54] <ppp> Hey, what are openssl-devel and libssl-devel please ? Do i have to take one or the other one for ubuntu ?
[09:54] <babu__> it's always saying "error on read from talk domain"
[09:54] <babu__> please tell the usage of talk command
[09:54] <babu__> it's always saying "error on read from talk domain"
[09:54] <XxKOLOHExX> Incarus6 It didn't work :(
[09:54] <ppp> Hey, what are openssl-devel and libssl-devel please ? Do i have to take one or the other one for ubuntu ? ty
[09:55] <Incarus6> XxKOLOHExX, can you paste the output of "uname -a"?
[09:55] <babu__> please tell the usage of talk command
[09:55] <babu__> it's always saying "error on read from talk domain"
[09:55] <XxKOLOHExX> Linux jacob-HP-Pavilion-dm4-Notebook-PC 2.6.38-10-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 15:07:17 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:55] <arfbtwn> ppp: dev packages shouldn't be needed for running, just compiling against
[09:56] <dury> hi there channel :)
[09:56] <wh1zz0> hi guys ...
[09:56] <ppp> Well theres a software i'm trying to install but it says error messages, and the solution suggested is to get openssl-devel  or libssl-devel but idk what they are
[09:56] <berkes> suddenly my banshee (11.04/unity) starts up and garbles the screen. As if the entire application (including its chrome) is a transparent layer whith no re-rendering. Any idea what that bug is called?
[09:56] <Incarus6> XxKOLOHExX, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773918 looks related
[09:56] <e_t_> babu__: both you and your friend should type "mesg y" to accept talk messages.
[09:57] <arfbtwn> ppp: Is the software from the repos or are you compiling it yourself?
[09:57] <Tricks> Incarus6, nah still not working no dual screens :(
[09:57] <ppp> not compiling no, and what is the repos ? :p (new with ubuntu here)
[09:57] <XxKOLOHExX> Incarus6 Thanks will take a look
[09:57] <arfbtwn> ppp: ubuntu software centre
[09:57] <ppp> It's something from teh internet
[09:57] <ppp> ah i see
[09:57] <Incarus6> Tricks, have you rebooted since saving the file?
[09:57] <ppp> nope, i entered some commands myself, suggested to install it
[09:58] <dury> is it possible to download firefox 5.01 for 10.04
[09:58] <io> ppp: '$ sudo apt-get install libssl-dev' in a !Terminal
[09:58] <tsimpson> ppp: libssl-dev is the one in ubuntu
[09:58] <ppp> then i have to do the command "make" and it doesn't work, and suggested actions is to get openssl or libssl (devel), idk how it works
[09:58] <babu__> give sample of talk command
[09:58] <arfbtwn> ppp: I would check the ubuntu software centre first before you try compiling (make does that)
[09:58] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: If you're running a DHCP server on eth1, you don't want to assign its address by DHCP.
[09:58] <Tricks> Incarus6, well I was saving the file manually originally anyway. When it wouldn't save the config  I just copied it and replaced via the command line
[09:58] <Tricks> Incarus6, but I'll try now brb
[09:59] <ppp> mmh i don't think it would be in the center
[09:59] <ppp> can't find the real name
[09:59] <ppp> nvm
[09:59] <arfbtwn> babu__: the man page sometimes gives an example. man talk will explain all
[09:59] <e_t_> babu__: try "man talk".
[09:59] <Benkinooby> !off-topic
[10:01] <dury> does it affect to ubuntu 10.04 if I install firefox 5.01
[10:02] <wh1zz0> eit
[10:02] <wh1zz0> exit
[10:03] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: oh ok
[10:03] <rooted-insideme> so I need to set it static?
[10:04] <dury> rooted-insideme: you mean your ip connection
[10:04] <venol> Ehem
[10:04] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: eth1 should be static, but you should only need address and netmask lines. Definitely don't set a gateway on eth1.
[10:04] <rooted-insideme> e_t_: ok
[10:05] <rooted-insideme> so just add in the address and netmask
[10:05] <e_t_> Yes.
[10:05] <rooted-insideme> YAY for flood
[10:07] <dipiwee> morining
[10:07] <dipiwee> im looking for the nick of a mod on the forums
[10:07] <dipiwee> or if a forum mod is in here now
[10:07] <rooted-insideme> stupid bot
[10:07] <jrib> dipiwee: #ubuntuforums
[10:07] <dipiwee> jrib: thanks
[10:08] <dury> does it affect to ubuntu 10.04 if I install firefox 5.01
[10:08] <rooted-insideme> wow@floodbot2
[10:08] <Diverdude> hello, i have a very large tif file (~65 MB). I am unsure how many channels the file contains, if it has r,g and b or just a single channel. How can i check that?
[10:10] <arfbtwn> Diverdude: file <filename> sometimes gives info, otherwise. Maybe check it in GIMP.
[10:10] <LjL> e_t_: you were banned by mistake, sorry
[10:11] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude If you have imagemagick installed, you can use the identify command.
[10:11] <e_t_> Thank you, LjL
[10:11] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: Or use GIMP as arfbtwn suggests.
[10:11] <Schalken> rsyslogd has been using 192% of my cpu (quad core machine) for the past 27 hours. Does anyone have any ideas how to figure out what is going on?
[10:11] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, aha, identify shows this: fish 15 - bac + DMSO 1_ch00.tif TIFF 8192x8192 8192x8192+0+0 8-bit PseudoClass 256c 64.01MiB 0.000u 0:00.010
[10:11] <rooted-insideme> wb e_t_
[10:12] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, does that say anything about what channels are in the file?
[10:13] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: ....
[10:13] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, ?
[10:13] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: Is it a greyscale image?
[10:13] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, thats what i am trying to figure out
[10:13] <venol> Diverdude: Maybe you can double click the file
[10:13] <venol> helo, I'm use mailgraph to monitoring mail server,  If I send an email it gets counted as sent. It also gets counted as Received". Is this normal?
[10:14] <Kaoloi> I'm dual booting windows vista and ubuntu 11.04. But now, i want to make the change. How to install ubuntu 11.04 and format the rest of the hard disk? (I installed it with wubi)
[10:14] <Diverdude> venol, double click is no good
[10:14] <Diverdude> venol, it may very well use some colormap
[10:14] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: I think it might be - it's saying 8-bit image and 256 colours, which implies greyscale. Indexed colour is unlikely in a TIFF, but I could be wrong. I think you'll just have to open it and find out.
[10:14] <arfbtwn> Diverdude: from the identify, looks like it's 256 colours == 8 bit
[10:14] <Kaoloi> i'm currently burning a CD with ubuntu, hoping that there will be an option when i launch it to format everything else
[10:15] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, well, grayscale image can also be 8-bit image just with a single channel instead og 3
[10:15] <squaregoldfish> diverdude: Exactly. With the info we have from identify, I can't tell.
[10:16] <Kaoloi> I'm dual booting windows vista and ubuntu 11.04. But now, i want to make the change. How to install ubuntu 11.04 and format the rest of the hard disk? (I installed it with wubi)
[10:16] <Kaoloi> anyone please?
[10:16] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, opening the image also wont tell since the viewer may just apply some colormap...making it impossible to see
[10:16] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: Try identify -verbose
[10:16] <Tricks> Incarus6, nah same as before mate
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  i suggest backing up your impornatnat data. and doing a reinstall.
[10:17] <venol> helo, I'm use mailgraph to monitoring mail server,  If I send an email it gets counted as sent. It also gets counted as Received". Is this normal?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  and deleteing windows during the install
[10:17] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: Should be a Colorspace entry.
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  there are wubi-to-hard drive tools.. but ive never used them. so they may not work very well
[10:17] <Kaoloi> ive backed up all my important data Dr_Willis
[10:17] <Diverdude> Diverdude, yeah in the tif file right?
[10:17] <Kaoloi> Dr_Willis,  will they be an option when i install ubuntu where i can 'reinstall' or 'format and install'?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  You cold try a wubi-2-hd tool/script i guess.. if you wqant to try to save some time
[10:18] <Tricks> Incarus6, surely it shouldn't be this hard to enable an extended desktop
[10:18] <Kaoloi> will it delete my vista and ubuntu partition?
[10:18] <Kaoloi> i dont mind losing my data on ubuntu
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  the insatller can 'use the whole hard drive' ane erase all..
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  if you sued wubi - you dont have a ubuntu partition...
[10:18] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: identify -verbose <file>.tiff
[10:19] <Kaoloi> ahh.. but it gave me a little 13gb partition for ubuntu and the rest for vista
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> bbl work timw for me
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> Kaoloi,  you sure you dident MAKE a wubi 'file' not a partition?
[10:19] <Dr_Willis> \bye all..
[10:20] <Kaoloi> i'm sorry i'm very new to this. i just launched the installer and followed the instructions
[10:20] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: so as Dr_Willis said, you don't have a full ubuntu partition
[10:20] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, aha that gave a lot of info, look: http://pastebin.com/SBiqJbSQ
[10:21] <Kaoloi> arfbtwn,  ok, so now if I want to use ubuntu only. I insert my install CD and restart my laptop. follow the instructions and look for an option where i have 'install ubuntu and format the entire drive'?
[10:21] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: bingo ;)
[10:22] <Kaoloi> arfbtwn, and this will erase my current data on ubuntu right?
[10:22] <Kaoloi> like my email settings and stuff
[10:23] <hacking_u> Kaoloi, have you backed up your data you need?
[10:23] <squaregoldfish> Diverdude: So it looks like you've got a greyscale image, but it's encoded as RGB with the image data in the Blue channel. Weird.
[10:23] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: The option actually says erase entire disk, so, yes. Do you want to backup your home dir first?
[10:23] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, i think its grayscale
[10:23] <Diverdude> yes
[10:23] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, that was my thought also
[10:23] <Kaoloi> maybe i should do that haha..
[10:23] <Diverdude> since it has
[10:23] <Diverdude> Channel depth:
[10:23] <Diverdude>     red: 1-bit
[10:23] <Diverdude>     green: 1-bit
[10:23] <Diverdude>     blue: 16-bit
[10:23] <FloodBot1> Diverdude: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <XxKOLOHExX> @Tricks Incarus6 will be back later
[10:23] <squaregoldfish> diverdude: Exactly.
[10:23] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: tar -jcvf homebackup.tar.bz2 $HOME from ubuntu should do it
[10:24] <Kaoloi> where will it back up?
[10:24] <caddoo> probably a retarded question. But i'm using the latest ubuntu, and i find the font / font rendering very odd
[10:24] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, ohh well, i will treat it as a colorimage then :) perfect. thx
[10:24] <caddoo> and hard to work with
[10:24] <Diverdude> ehmm grayscale i mean
[10:24] <caddoo> did anyone else find this
[10:24] <Diverdude> hehehe
[10:24] <squaregoldfish> diverdude: Hehe. No problem. Might be worth you converting it to proper greyscale to avoid future confusion...
[10:24] <Kaoloi> arfbtwn, when i reinstall ubuntu i'll be able to use that back up? I just need the settings and app i've downloaded...
[10:25] <Kaoloi> not much data
[10:25] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, im gonna import in my python script, so ill just deal with it in there
[10:25] <squaregoldfish> diverdude: Fair enough. Enjoy :)
[10:25] <hacking_u> Kaoloi, what is dist you use
[10:25] <Kaoloi> dist?
[10:25] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: where ever you say homebackup.tar.bz2 will be. Then you can put that anywhere
[10:26] <caddoo> also is it normal to have like 10 updates a day?
[10:26] <hacking_u> Kaoloi, ummm, natty or ...
[10:26] <TL1> very much :-)
[10:26] <TL1> ilts linux
[10:26] <Kaoloi> i'm sorry im a total new, i'm not sure what im using... anyway to check?
[10:26] <caddoo> TL1, directed at me?
[10:26] <Diverdude> squaregoldfish, thx :)
[10:27] <TL1> yes caddoo its linux world
[10:27] <TL1> caddoo: life never stops
[10:27] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: don't worry, it's probably natty but that doesn't really matter too much
[10:27] <hacking_u> Kaoloi, what is your version of ubuntu(or other dist?)
[10:27] <Kaoloi> 11.04
[10:27] <TL1> caddoo: do you have a slow connection ?
[10:27] <hacking_u> and you're trying to reinstall 11.04
[10:27] <hacking_u> right?
[10:27] <caddoo> no TL1 it just seems like its an error haha
[10:27] <Kaoloi> yes
[10:28] <Kaoloi> i dont want to use vista anymore basically..
[10:28] <Kaoloi> just ubuntu
[10:28] <Kaoloi> but i used wubi to try out
[10:28] <_Fly> ns identify ilovemay
[10:28] <hacking_u> i think you don't have to reinstall it.
[10:28] <Incarus6> Tricks, still here?
[10:28] <TL1> caddoo: lol it's normal
[10:29] <Kaoloi> but i realized that the disk space left for ubuntu is too small. and i looked online on resizing partition and omg thats too hard..
[10:29] <TL1> for example i keep struggle with grub2
[10:29] <hacking_u> but if you want to, follow arfbtwn 's
[10:29] <TL1> each time i have to power down my virtual machine it keeps corruptin
[10:31] <Kaoloi> hacking_u, just a little question, if I reinstall it and only use ubuntu. can i confirm with you guys that i can still install windows 7 later? (in a tiny partition maybe?)
[10:31] <caddoo> any IDE recommendations for PHP? Using NB 7.0 at the moment its functional but it just doesn't fit in nicely with the OS and is a bit sluggish sometimes
[10:32] <hacking_u> Kaoloi, yes, u can but if install windows with ubuntu after setting up ubuntu, it can be harder then setting up ubuntu with pre installed windows
[10:33] <KolakCC> Pretty sure you can't talk about IDEs anywhere..
[10:33] <Kaoloi> i think i'll follow arfbtwn, do a reinstall (a good clean to my laptop). and hopefully i can use that backup file he made me do somehow! so that I dont have to enter my email settings, apps downloaded, etc.
[10:33] <Kaoloi> ok ill use ubuntu as my base OS
[10:33] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: That command will only backup your settings
[10:33] <Kaoloi> thats fine then!
[10:33] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: you'll still need to re-install the programs fresh
[10:33] <Kaoloi> its alright :)
[10:33] <Kaoloi> thanks!
[10:34] <Kaoloi> but how to use that backup file?
[10:34] <arfbtwn> netime
[10:35] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: Once you've reinstalled, you unzip with tar -jxvf homebackup.tar.bz2 but execute from /home
[10:36] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: If anything goes wrong, keep a hold of that file ;)
[10:36] <hacking_u> Kaoloi, u said ur a begginer linuxer, so i propose u to use gui backup tool
[10:37] <Kaoloi> ok thank you so much arfbtwn & hacking_u, ill try to do it. if im lost ill come and see you again!
[10:37] <arfbtwn> Kaoloi: hacking_u talks sense!
[10:37] <dddbmt_> e_t_, I've tried http://paste.ubuntu.com/643131/, but I still get a 403 from Apache. Note that I still have my link to SVN folder in my /var/www.
[10:37] <dddbmt_> And sorry my response time!
[10:38] <e_t_> try removing the symlink.
[10:38] <dddbmt_> still nothing
[10:39] <Kaoloi> wish me good luck guys !! bye!
[10:39] <Kaoloi> lol
[10:40] <hacking_u> arfbtwn, humm, i'm not good at english, so i can't understand that you said (Kaoloi:talks sense!)
[10:41] <hacking_u> arfbtwn, i mean i could not understand the meanning of that sentence;
[10:41] <dattebayo> how can i change my Splash Screen image?
[10:41] <arfbtwn> hacking_u: Just that your suggestion was better than mine for newbies
[10:42] <Name141> how do you manually search files over the network? smb://addresshere/whateverfolder ?
[10:42] <Name141> or should I say manually connect
[10:43] <starZ> hi all - gwibber is not working since few updates.. did you experience that on natty?
[10:43] <arfbtwn> dattebayo: The boot spash? Haven't done it myself, googline for plymouth will help
[10:43] <arfbtwn> Name141: If it's a samba/windows share, yes. Browsing can be done from network in the places menu
[10:43] <dattebayo> i google it and they says /usr/share/pixmaps/splash but i dont have this folder
[10:44] <starZ> hi all - gwibber is not working since few updates.. did you experience that on natty?
[10:45] <Incarus6> !splash | dattebayo
[10:46] <e_t_> dddbmt: Did you restart apache to load the new configuration?
[10:46] <starZ> anyone knows why gwibber gui is not showing on natty?
[10:46] <Name141> aflynn: it's not correctly picking up the IP# of the "MSHome's"
[10:46] <Name141> aflynn: in according to the machines names
[10:46] <syslq> apachectl restart
[10:47] <syslq> or even reload
[10:47] <arfbtwn> Name141: Right, so want to check connectivity. the smb://* format will work to go there directly
[10:48] <starZ> anyone knows gwibber?
[10:48] <starZ> :(
[10:48] <arfbtwn> starZ: Yeah, but I'm on lucid
[10:48] <arfbtwn> starZ:  have you tried running it from a terminal and seeing what output you get?
[10:49] <pravinkenator> Hello, I'm having some problem with cuda in ubuntu server
[10:50] <starZ> arfbtwn: yes, there is a time out after loading I don't know what py file..
[10:50] <cojack> hello, where is java-plugin package?
[10:50] <cojack> I can not run java applets on site
[10:50] <starZ> arfbtwn: and after I get updates but no gui
[10:50] <szal> !java | cojack
[10:51] <arfbtwn> starZ: can you pastebin the output to look at?
[10:51] <dattebayo> ubottu, there is no /apps/gnome.....
[10:51] <starZ> arftwn: yeah..
[10:52] <Incarus6> dattebayo, it is just a bot, don't think he is intelligent ;)
[10:52] <starZ> /usr/share/themes/MurrinaCandido/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:84: Murrine configuration option "gradients" is no longer supported and will be ignored.
[10:52] <starZ> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.Gwibber.Service:/com/gwibber/Service: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[10:52] <starZ> Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:52] <starZ>   File "/usr/bin/gwibber", line 87, in <module>
[10:52] <starZ>     client.Client()
[10:52] <arfbtwn> starZ: Not here, somewhere on the web
[10:52] <FloodBot1> starZ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <starZ>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/gwibber/client.py", line 623, in __init__
[10:53] <dattebayo> Incarus6, really? i thought he is human
[10:54] <Incarus6> !ubottu > dattebayo
[10:57] <starZ> arftwn: sorry, here is a txt files http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16296326/share/gwibber_err.txt
[10:58] <Guest61361> Hello, i have a doubt, are the processors intel i3 xxxM for laptops compatible with ubuntu?
[10:58] <Incarus6> !paste | starZ
[10:58] <CalimeroTeknik> !pkgfile glib.h
[10:59] <CalimeroTeknik> !help
[10:59] <nightrid3r> Guest61361 yes they are
[10:59] <CalimeroTeknik> !give CalimeroTeknik package containing glib.h
[10:59]  * RenaKunisaki gives CalimeroTeknik a chemistry exam
[10:59]  * thenub3141 gives CalimeroTeknik a tuna. Still in the can! *BONK* That will leave a mark
[11:00] <Andy_master> HI guys I am getting error " error : no such partition. grub rescue >
[11:00] <Andy_master> help me !!
[11:02] <Andy_master> anyone
[11:02] <Incarus6> CalimeroTeknik, try "apt-file search glib.h" in terminal
[11:02] <rooted-insideme> Andy_master:grub is trying to boot a bootless partition that has no boot image
[11:03] <rooted-insideme> that's my guess
[11:03] <rooted-insideme> or the partition that's saved in grub doesn't exist
[11:03] <Guest61361> Is possible to dissable a Nvidia graphics and use de GPU of the I3 processor to save battery?
[11:03] <arfbtwn> starZ: looks like it's unable to connect to the gwibber service
[11:03] <Andy_master> rooted-insideme:  yes that true. I had deleted the partition from windows and after restart it showing me this error. what should i do
[11:05] <twister004> hi guys... how can I anually enter my wireless interface settings in ubuntu 8:04?.... I know I have to modify the /etc/network/interfaces file.. but not sure what entries should be there
[11:05] <starZ> arfbtwn=
[11:05] <twister004> manually*
[11:05] <basso> auch, compiz crashed
[11:05] <starZ> arfbtwn: yeah, but why? how can I know? http://paste.ubuntu.com/643167/
[11:06] <Andy_master> !!
[11:07] <pepote> hola
[11:07] <huda_asda> hey   ineed help to install vlc in bactrack
[11:07] <huda_asda> i'm newbie
[11:07] <e_t_> twister004: If I remember correctly, you'll only be able to do it in interfaces if you're using WEP (non)security.
[11:08] <twister004> e_t_, I'm using WPA2 personal security.... also, why isn't network manager taking care of the config?
[11:08] <introuble>  in a folder containing many files. is there a way to change a certain word of every file name (if it contains it) and every code in the file name (if its a .php file for e.g) and replace it with another auto matically?
[11:09] <huda_asda> hey   ineed help to install vlc in bactrack
[11:09] <huda_asda> hey   ineed help to install vlc in bactrack
[11:09] <jrib> introuble: sure, you can use rename if you know about regular expressions
[11:09] <jrib> !backtrack | huda_asda
[11:09] <e_t_> twister004: Did you select NM to automatically start the connection?
[11:09] <huda_asda> ok sorry
[11:09] <introuble> jrib i need to change every code in the files tooo. if any. for e.g .php or .txt
[11:09] <rooted-insideme> Andy_master: do you have a bootable linux partition installed on the hard drive?
[11:10] <cojack> btw icedtea-plugin was enaugh
[11:10] <twister004> e_t_... how do i do that... also, please note that my wired interface is static... not dynamic
[11:10] <cojack> for runing java aplets
[11:10] <cojack> using openjdk
[11:11] <dury> hi all :)
[11:12] <Andy_master> rooted-insideme:  I had, but I deleted the parition using windows 7
[11:14] <rooted-insideme> Andy_master: ok
[11:14] <rooted-insideme> so now you have no linux partition
[11:14] <rooted-insideme> and grub was your bootloader
[11:14] <rooted-insideme> hehe bad idea
[11:14] <twister004> e_t_... since my wired interface is static, Network Manager is not running... am I correct?
[11:15] <Andy_master> rooted-insideme:  so what should i do now ?
[11:16] <rooted-insideme> google on how to re-install windows bootloader without reinstalling
[11:16] <Rouse> now am installing ubuntu in my new raw hard disk... i want  to make three partitions..so wat to do
[11:17] <Rouse> this is a new system
[11:17] <Rouse> i chosen manually partition  option in ubuntu 10.04 setup
[11:18] <com64> rouse, there should be a way to manually set up partitions with the installer...
[11:18] <rooted-insideme> wb e_t_
[11:18] <e_t_> rooted-insideme: sorry, I had to restart.
[11:18] <rooted-insideme> no worries bud
[11:18] <Rouse> com64, yeah
[11:18] <Rouse> its ter
[11:18] <twister004> e_t_... since my wired interface is static, Network Manager is not running... am I correct?
[11:18] <com64> rouse, how about using a partition editor run from a usb drive or cd?
[11:18] <com64> i can't remember what it's called, but I did tat once.
[11:18] <Rouse> usb drive
[11:18] <e_t_> twister004: not necessarily.
[11:19] <com64> let me look it up for you...
[11:19] <Rouse> whats tht ext4 file
[11:19] <Rouse> system
[11:19] <twister004> e_t_... the security mmode is WPA2-personal.. how can I configure my interface... also, wpa_cli is not able to connect to wpa_suppliant
[11:19] <com64> Rouse, use a GParted livecd
[11:19] <com64> or liveusb
[11:19] <com64> to partition your drive.
[11:19] <introuble> jrib if in a folder that has subfolders and files. abc232.jpg  00sabc_3.txt and 11.php that contains code that contains *abc*  .   i want to replace all abc with xyz.
[11:20] <com64> rouse, it should be included in unetbootin.
[11:20] <Rouse> can gparted be along with ubuntu files in usb
[11:20] <Rouse> ?
[11:20] <e_t_> twister004: So you have a static IP wired interface AND a wireless interface?
[11:20] <jrib>  /what
[11:20] <twister004> e_t_.. yes
[11:20] <com64> rouse, no I think you need a separate usb drive
[11:20] <jrib> introuble: do you know about regular expressions?
[11:20] <Rouse> ok let me do it
[11:21] <e_t_> twister004: You really only need one.
[11:21] <introuble> jrib everything
[11:21] <introuble> jrib what do you mean by reg expres?
[11:21] <twister004> e_t_.. yes.. i know... but since wireless doesn't work, I had to use wired.. but I want wireless to work
[11:21] <arfbtwn> jrib: What about regular expressions?
[11:21] <com64> rouse, so what I'd do is partition the hard drive the way you want it, then install Ubuntu (with the automatic partition setup or whatever) onto the partition you want it on...
[11:21] <jrib> introuble: read « man rename » and http://www.regular-expressions.info/
[11:22] <introuble> will that change file names and file contents too?
[11:22] <Somelauw> Hi, for some reason java starts up when my system starts up and I want to prevent it. Any suggestions how to block this misfeature?
[11:22] <jrib> introuble: for the recursive aspect of your question, use find.   For file contents, use sed.
[11:22] <introuble> jrib sure ?
[11:23] <llutz> introuble: like:   find path/ -type f |xargs rename -n 's/abc/xyz/'
[11:23] <e_t_> twister004: Do you see a network icon in the upper-right region of the screen, somewhere near the clock?
[11:23] <introuble> jrib can krename do it all ?
[11:23] <jrib> introuble: no, rename only renames filenames.
[11:24] <introuble> jrib krename can only rename file names?
[11:24] <twister004> e_t_.. no, but I see the bluetooth icon
[11:24] <jrib> introuble: I don't know why you keep saying "krename"
[11:24] <llutz> !nfo krename
[11:25] <introuble> llutz find path/ -type f |xargs rename -n 's/abc/xyz/'         this will rename every file in the path and its subfolders that contains *abc* like aasdfabc or 8796abc  ?
[11:25] <introuble> !info krename
[11:25] <llutz> introuble: it will
[11:25] <llutz> introuble: NOT krename
[11:25]  * s7r whoami
[11:26] <llutz> introuble: those are different tools (krename is a GUI-tool)
[11:27] <introuble> llee and how to rename contents and codes in files ?
[11:27] <introuble> llutz ^
[11:28] <llutz> introuble: read "man sed"
[11:28] <llutz> introuble: to give you some ideas on sed: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
[11:28] <Skills_> wnt 2 ask quest on hackng ne bdy 2 help
[11:28] <Skills_> ?
[11:29] <jrib> introuble: the basic syntax you want is « sed -i 's/REGULAR EXPRESSION TO REPLACE/WHAT TO REPLACE IT WITH/g' FILE »
[11:29] <s000501> Trying to force an integrity scan of a LVM local volume, but running fsck only gives on line: /dev/mapper/...: clean ... files ... blocks (diagnostic message); any help would be appreciated!
[11:29] <jrib> Skills_: what question...?
[11:29] <Skills_> tut on shellcoding
[11:29] <Skills_> where to find
[11:29] <jrib> Skills_: that's not really on-topic here
[11:29] <Skills_> ok
[11:29] <xubuntu-noob> Skills_,  there is a good one on IBM, by Ian Shields
[11:30] <xubuntu-noob> search for those terms
[11:30] <Skills_> k dude thanks
[11:30] <llutz> Skills_: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[11:30] <jrib> Skills_: do you mean writing bash scripts?
[11:31] <xubuntu-noob> Hi @ all. my Desktop doesnt show mounted devs on /media anymore. Any hint ??
[11:31] <xubuntu-noob> (im on xfce but I guess its similar ?)
[11:32] <geirha> llutz: That's not a good guide for beginners, the wooledge guide is better.
[11:32] <llutz> geirha: this? http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[11:32] <geirha> llutz: Yes.
[11:36] <rooted-insideme> anyone here good with iptables and forwarding internet from eth0 to eth1
[11:36] <rooted-insideme> that can help e_t_ and I out
[11:38] <Rouse> com64,  whats the ext4 ext2
[11:38] <Rouse> ?
[11:38] <Rouse> wat all these
[11:38] <com64> oh
[11:38] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: Is a bridge not what you want?
[11:38] <com64> those are the tyes of partitions
[11:38] <com64> types*
[11:38] <SwedeMike> Rouse: they're different filesystems.
[11:38] <com64> you'll want to choose ext4.
[11:38] <com64> filesystems, I mean.
[11:39] <denebola> Is there a log somewhere that ubuntu writes to when it crashes/freezes
[11:39] <Rouse> hmm..fine mine is 320 gb hard disk
[11:39] <Rouse> so how to partition it
[11:39] <harubirukill> hei
[11:39] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: Ahh, internet sharing? See this: http://tinyurl.com/jslgy
[11:39] <Rouse> which will be useful in future
[11:39] <twister004> hi guys... my wpa_supplicant.conf file is missing on my machine
[11:39] <twister004> any idea how this is possible?
[11:39] <com64> Rouse, you using gparted?
[11:40] <arfbtwn> twister004: it's not missing, you can copy a sample from the doc directory
[11:40] <Rouse> you tell..i think its better to choose manual parttion in ubuntu
[11:40] <Rouse> still i dint start com64
[11:40] <com64> okay.
[11:41] <introuble> jrib can you tell the exact command for sed to change contents with wildcards *abc*    to be changed by xyz ?
[11:41] <com64> anyway, I have to go to bed, so I can't really help anymore...
[11:41] <com64> night...
[11:41] <Rouse> hey tel
[11:41] <Rouse> me and go man
[11:41] <Rouse> please
[11:41] <com64> what do you want to know specifically?
[11:41] <twister004> aftbtwn: it's not there under doc either..
[11:41] <com64> I'm going to pass out any moment here.
[11:41] <twister004> arfbtwn*.. sorry about that
[11:42] <Rouse> 320 gb harddisk ...to be partitioned to ext4 ? or wat type filesystem
[11:42] <arfbtwn> introuble: he told you before cat filename | sed -i 's/abc/xyz/g'
[11:42] <Rouse> what mount point i must give ?
[11:42] <com64> rouse, I'd choose ext4.
[11:42] <arfbtwn> introuble: actually, I think -i can take a filename instead of the cat...
[11:42] <com64> root
[11:42] <com64> rouse, root mount point i think.
[11:42] <Rouse> for example will create 4 partitions each of 80gb
[11:42] <com64> yeah
[11:43] <Rouse> all the four will be ext4
[11:43] <Rouse> ?
[11:43] <com64> so what do you want on each partition?
[11:43] <arfbtwn> twister004: it should be here -> /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples
[11:43] <com64> all can be ext4 if you want
[11:43] <Rouse> in one partition i may install windows
[11:43] <Pici> introuble, arfbtwn: sed -i 's/abc/xyz/g' filename      Using -i and piping in text won't work properly.
[11:43] <arfbtwn> Pici: yeah, I spotted my error... whoops.
[11:43] <Rouse> in other another OS
[11:43] <com64> rouse, when you install windows, the installer can format it, so don't worry.
[11:44] <Rouse> oh ok\
[11:44] <com64> but it's better I think to install Windows first.
[11:44] <Rouse> nope i ll do it later only
[11:44] <twister004> arfdtwn: wpa_supplicant.conf is not there... but 'wpa-psk-tkip.conf' and 'wpa2-eap-ccmp.conf' are there... should I move these and rename accordingly/.?
[11:44] <introuble> arag0rn can you be more specific please. the path etc. and i need *abc*
[11:44] <com64> Okay, your choice.
[11:44] <pravinkenator> Hello I need a small clarification regarding running a script at boot time
[11:45] <Rouse> okay shall i give all the four ext4
[11:45] <Rouse> ?
[11:45] <sandstorm|away> is ubuntu using unity or gnome 3 shell as default?
[11:45] <arfbtwn> twister004: yes, those are example files. you'll need to run wpa_passphrase to fill in the psk field
[11:45] <Pici> introuble: sed -i 's/oldtext/newtext/g' /path/to/filename
[11:45] <Rouse> com64,  dont sleep man
[11:45] <Rouse> two more mis pls
[11:45] <Rouse> *mins
[11:45] <rooted-insideme> arfbtwn: yeah that link didn't work
[11:45] <com64> yes, go ahead and set all four to ext4, but format the one that's going to be windows to ntfs if you want. anyway, make sure one partition is set to root mount point (that's the one you will install ubuntu on.)
[11:46] <rooted-insideme> well I did that and still no internet sharing
[11:46] <com64> one of the ext4 partitions must have root mounpoint, I mean
[11:46] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: that's the iptables bit, you'll also need to setup dhcp on the sharing port. using e.g. dnsmasq
[11:46] <Rouse> sdf
[11:47] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: I believe that network manager can also do it
[11:47] <Rouse> this is the root point right / ?
[11:47] <com64> yes
[11:47] <Rouse> for other three partitions whats the root ?
[11:47] <Rouse> must give
[11:47] <com64> for the other partitions, you dont need a mount point
[11:47] <com64> however
[11:48] <Rouse> hmm okay :)
[11:48] <com64> it may be a good idea to have a swap partition
[11:48] <com64> so maybe make another partition
[11:48] <rooted-insideme> arfbtwn: so I have to have dnsmasq installed?
[11:48] <Rouse> totally 5
[11:48] <Rouse> ?
[11:48] <Rouse> but ly 4 primary is allowed
[11:48] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: you can also do it through network manager from the ipv4 tab when you edit the connection
[11:48] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: and you won't need dnsmasq
[11:49] <com64> make the size at least as much as your RAM, and format to swapfs... then the mount point for it would be linux-swap
[11:49] <rooted-insideme> arfbtwn: it's a remote box
[11:49] <com64> rouse, can you make a logical partition instead?
[11:49] <com64> instead of primary?
[11:49] <introuble> Pici you mean  /path/to/filename means path to folder containing files and subfolders?
[11:49] <Rouse> yep
[11:49] <arfbtwn> rooted-insideme: then dnsmasq is probably the way to
[11:49] <rooted-insideme> ok
[11:49] <com64> rouse, so do that I guess...
[11:49] <introuble> Pici iam new to linux
[11:49] <Pici> introuble: I missed the first question. Can you re-explain what you are trying to do, and I'll provide a command to do what you need to?
[11:50] <Rouse> ok
[11:50] <Rouse> thanks
[11:50] <Rouse> dude
[11:50] <com64> yes?
[11:50] <Rouse> have a nice sleep
[11:50] <com64> okay I will ;)
[11:51] <introuble> Pici in a folder containing many files. is there a way to change a certain word of every file name (if it contains it) and every code in the file name (if its a .php file for e.g) and replace it with another auto matically?
[11:51] <introuble> if in a folder that has subfolders and files. abc232.jpg  00sabc_3.txt and 11.php that contains code that contains *abc*  .   i want to replace all abc with xyz.
[11:53] <Pici> introuble: find /path/to/files/ -type f -iname "*.php" -exec sed -i 's/abc/xyz/g' {} \;
[11:53] <introuble> Pici no the files may or may not be .php  . they can be any . js .jpg
[11:53] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to add a short cut key to run a python program which i use frequently. how to do it?
[11:54] <introuble> Pici so type f -iname "*.php"  should be type f -iname "*.*"
[11:54] <introuble> ?
[11:55] <Pici> introuble: So it sounds like you want two things to happen.  1) Rename all files and switch abc to xyz and 2) change all code within php files so that abc is now xyz ?
[11:55] <dury> Great for Linux <3 :)
[11:56] <introuble> Pici yes. but i say agian the files may be .php or any other.other
[11:56] <Pici> introuble: Theres no telling what might be in binary files, you could end up corrupting a jpg if you told it to arbitrarily replace text within it.
[11:57] <melvincv> Hi, now I found my bearings :)
[11:59] <introuble> ok.. Pici
[12:00] <Pici> introuble: Anyway, the syntax for renaming recursively would be something like: find /path/ -type f -exec rename 's/abc/xyz/' {} \;
 introuble: Anyway, the syntax for renaming recursively would be something like: find /path/ -type f -exec rename 's/abc/xyz/' {} \;
[12:01] <Pici> bazhang: did I forget something?
[12:01] <Benkinooby> has anyone here a working youtube-plugin for totme?
[12:01] <Benkinooby> totem?
[12:01] <Pici> bazhang: oh, nvm.
[12:01] <bazhang> Pici, he quit just before
[12:02] <bazhang> Benkinooby, for totem? never used it, what about mplayer
[12:02] <dspstv> hi all, if i want to load 2 keyboard maps, i do: setxkbmap ch,es and it works perfectly
[12:02] <dspstv> how can i have that happening always at boot time?
[12:02] <Benkinooby> bazhang, mplayer an play youtube videos?
[12:02] <bazhang> Benkinooby, the downloaded flv? yes
[12:03] <dspstv> i see no .xinitrc, im using gnomne classic under 11.04
[12:03] <melvincv> Hi. I still was not able to get smplayer to work :(  I tried using xv and x11, but to no avail. I have an old Intel 845GL video card. Any ideas?
[12:03] <Pici> Benkinooby: minitube is pretty much a front-end for youtube on the desktop.
[12:03] <bazhang> mplayer will play pretty much everything these days Benkinooby
[12:04] <com64> Pici, I thought that minitube was rendered incompatible due to youtube updating their system?
[12:04] <melvincv> But SMplayer inbuilt in Ubuntu 11.04 does not seem to play any mp4 videos...
[12:05] <bazhang> melvincv, with ubuntu-restricted-extras installed? sure it does
[12:05] <melvincv> When I went to their site, they have support only till 10.04
[12:05] <Pici> com64: I haven't used it in a few months, but it worked fine the last time I tried it.
[12:05] <com64> Pici, strange, it wasn't working for me...
[12:05] <dspstv> before, one defined keyboard layout on xorg.conf.. but now i dont need that file
[12:05] <Benkinooby> bazhang, i want to play the youtube videos directly. totem can browes the video and play thme... but now it cant... i read something about the change of youtube APIs but not sure if this is still up to date
[12:06] <dspstv> where can i add my prefered keyboard map?
[12:06] <dspstv> thats is not just one map but 2
[12:06] <dspstv> setxkbmap ch,es
[12:06] <bazhang> Benkinooby, no idea, sorry, I use the firefox addon download helper to get them and then play via mplayer
[12:07] <dspstv> bazhang: use vlc
[12:07] <bazhang> dspstv, no need
[12:07] <Roey> hi]
[12:07] <com64> Okay, minitube works, nevermind
[12:07] <com64> Just tested it
[12:07] <melvincv> wow, ubuntu-restricted-extras is large. Any smaller packages that allow me to play mp4?
[12:07] <tarzeau> dspstv: swiss german and spanish?
[12:07] <dspstv> tewecske: yes
[12:08] <dspstv> both
[12:08] <com64> Benkinooby, use minitube, it works...
[12:08] <T-cELL32> hey
[12:08] <Benkinooby> com64, just downlaoding it :P
[12:08] <Benkinooby> Pici, thx for the hint
[12:08] <com64> :)
[12:08] <Pici> Benkinooby: np
[12:08] <dspstv> it works perfectly when i run: setxkbmap ch,es
[12:08] <Roey> can anyone help me with this USB earphones problem?  I have this Plantronics USB headphone set that although recognized by the Linux kernel (I can see that through dmesg), and the volume buttons work (they call up this on-screen volume control display), I can't hear anything from them.  Pulseaudio... is that the issue here?
[12:08] <dspstv> but i have to do that manually after every new boot
[12:09] <bazhang> Roey, check alsamixer yet?
[12:09] <dspstv> tarzeau: any idea? i have looked via the forums but only old time solutions
[12:09] <Roey> bazhang:  no go
[12:09] <Roey> bazhang:  all the volumes there are set to 100%.
[12:09] <Roey> bazhang:  I try pavucontrol and get 'connection refused'.
[12:10] <tarzeau> dspstv: i don't know how to use multiple ones. i just use one, that is configured in xorg.conf
[12:10] <dspstv> i might have to create an xorg.conf
[12:10] <dspstv> thx
[12:10] <melvincv> Any smaller packages that allow me to play mp4?
[12:11] <introuble> bazhang thanks
[12:11] <bazhang> melvincv, what about trying to open it, and see if the system prompts to search for codecs
[12:12] <com64> melvincv, try vlc?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:12] <Roey> hey again BluesKaj
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hi Roey
[12:13] <Benkinooby> Pici, with minitube the "play" button is grayed out :(
[12:13] <melvincv> Ok, it opened in movie player and the system prompted for 2 gstreamer packages... I'll try vlc next, thanks.
[12:14] <Benkinooby> Pinch,
[12:15] <metabill> I'm trying to use IPv6 in lucid. Can anyone point me to a sane way to use more than one IPv6 address per interface?
[12:15] <Benkinooby> com64, my play button in minitube is grayed out...
[12:15] <com64> search for a video?
[12:16] <com64> lmao workign for me
[12:16] <Belserusk> Of all Ubuntu versions to date; which has been your favorite? Mine would be 10.04
[12:16] <Benkinooby> metabill, i think it is i "pi -6 addr add XXXX dev ethX"
[12:17] <Benkinooby> metabill, there is nothing special youhave to think about when giving your interface an ipv6 address
[12:17] <Benkinooby> afaig
[12:17] <Benkinooby> afaik
[12:17] <introuble> Pici its not changing
[12:17] <introuble> i have typed /path/to/files/ -type f -iname "*.php" -exec sed -i 's/abc/xyz/g' {} \;
[12:17] <xgt001> hi there .... i have broadcom wireless ... its not working even after installing proprietary drivers in 10.04... modprobe wl gives "FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter"
[12:18] <Pici> introuble: you put 'find' in front of that?
[12:18] <com64> Belserusk, I prefer 11.04 :D
[12:18] <Belserusk> com64, with Unity?
[12:19] <xgt001> Belserusk: 10.04... a lot stable and really fast
[12:19] <usr13> xgt001: Sounds like maybe wrong firmware
[12:19] <Belserusk> xgt001, agreed ^_^
[12:19] <metabill> Benkinooby: not with one IP address, but multiple ones seem to be different
[12:20] <dorigentoo> hi
[12:20] <dorigentoo>  when I try "iconv -f us-ascii -t utf-8  myfile" (I verified that my file was encoded in us-ascii before), I end up with an empty file, and file --mime-encoding myfile return encoding binary. Do you know what's wrong with my command ?
[12:20] <Benkinooby> metabill, did you try my command?
[12:20] <usr13> xgt001:  What model is it?  (As reported by lspci )
[12:20] <metabill> Benkinooby: not yet, but thanks for mentioning it. :)
[12:21] <rooted-insideme> do people still use the name Neo
[12:21]  * rooted-insideme lulz
[12:21] <xgt001> usr13: i actually installed linux-backport-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.36
[12:21] <xgt001> to get my bluetooth working
[12:21] <xgt001> but after installing it
[12:21] <Pici> rooted-insideme: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? If not, feel free to chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:22] <usr13> xgt001: So linux-backport-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.36 is for your bluetooth device?
[12:22] <xgt001> usr13: 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4727
[12:22] <usr13> xgt001: Not sure that is it.
[12:22] <usr13> xgt001: Can you pastebin it?
[12:22] <usr13> xgt001: lspci |grep pastebinit
[12:22] <xgt001> usr13: i had trouble with bluetooth in plain install so installed the backport
[12:22] <usr13> xgt001: lspci | pastebinit
[12:22] <usr13> sorry
[12:23] <Benkinooby> com64, when you tested minitube, did you have to download the videos first?
[12:23] <usr13> xgt001: lspci |grep pastebinit was a typo
[12:24] <com64> Benkinooby, no.
[12:24] <iszak> Anyone recommend a utility I can install on a USB drive that will /securely/ erase hard drives via a bootable UI?
[12:24] <com64> Benkinooby, They just play.
[12:24] <xgt001> usr13: is "pastebinit' an arguement?
[12:25] <usr13> xgt001: pastebilnit is an application that will automatically paste files or output.
[12:25] <Airsnort> ciao
[12:25] <Airsnort> so che e un discorso di merda, ma mia figlia sta navigando in camera sua ed e chiusa a chiave e possibile vedere le pagine cha sfoglia?
[12:25] <Pici> !it | Airsnort
[12:26] <usr13> xgt001: lspci | pastebinit  #And send resulting URL.
[12:26] <impiza> hi
[12:26] <xgt001> xgt001: installing pastebin
[12:27] <usr13> okeydokey
[12:27] <com64> howdy
[12:27] <xgt001> sorry usr13: installing pastebin
[12:29] <Benkinooby> com64, argh, why it won#t work for me :(
[12:30] <com64> benkinooby, wait what version of ubuntu you using?
[12:30] <usr13> xgt001: It's pastebinit  not pastebin
[12:30] <Benkinooby> com64, 10.04
[12:31] <com64> benkinooby, what I did is use the search, then double-click a video in the list to the left.
[12:31] <com64> and it works.
[12:31] <com64> I'm using 11.04.
[12:31] <xgt001> usr13: ya got it but i am on a slow gprs :(
[12:32] <usr13> gprs?
[12:32] <impiza> me too use gprs
[12:32] <impiza> lol
[12:32] <impiza> it sucks lol
[12:32] <Benkinooby> com64, what version of minitube do you use... go on help->about
[12:32] <usr13> impiza: What is gprs ?
[12:32] <shingen> my headless server died... removed hdd, trying to boot in vbox but I get nothing.  where can I start with troubleshooting boot issues?
[12:32] <xgt001> usr13: i mean mobile internet which is way too slow
[12:32] <usr13> O
[12:33] <impiza> general pocket radio service
[12:33] <usr13> impiza: Thanks info
[12:33] <com64> Benkinooby, I'm using version 1.3
[12:33] <impiza> it is use in mobile phone to access internet
[12:33] <xgt001> usr13: http://pastebin.com/fq2Fb4DL
[12:34] <Benkinooby> com64, me too
[12:34] <impiza> xgt001 what is this pastebin
[12:34] <Benkinooby> com64, but starting it from command line, it gives me a lopt of output
[12:34] <impiza> image uploader website
[12:34] <com64> me too.
[12:34] <impiza> ?
[12:35] <impiza> i am using imgur.com
[12:35] <usr13> xgt001: iwconfig | pastebinit   #And send resulting URL
[12:35] <Pici> !pastebin | impiza
[12:36] <introuble> Pici disconnect
[12:36] <janbanan> can anyone help me find my pgp KeyId?
[12:36] <introuble> i have typed find /path/to/files/ -type f -iname "*.php" -exec sed -i 's/abc/xyz/g' {} \;
[12:36] <shingen> my headless server died... removed hdd, trying to boot in vbox but I get nothing.  where can I start with troubleshooting boot issues?
[12:36] <quup> I have some weird issue with a remote ubuntu computer, I can access it fine over ssh and I see X is using up 99% CPU, even right after reboot
[12:36] <quup> how can I find out wtf is going on?
[12:36] <introuble> Pici it changed filenames when i just typed     find /path/ -type f -exec rename 's/abc/xyz/' {} \;
[12:37] <impiza> k thanks for info @ ubottu
[12:37] <janbanan> can anyone help me wit hPGP?
[12:37] <introuble> Pici looks fine. let me run on server
[12:37] <janbanan> PGP
[12:37] <Jewfro-Macabbi> janbanan, ask your question
[12:38] <introuble> Pici why do we use public_html    . if i put my files outside may be at \folder  . what difference will it make. (i want to make files secure)
[12:38] <janbanan> Jewfro-Macabbi:  I made my certificate but I cant find they KeyId to insert into Evolution
[12:38] <introuble> Pici why do we use public_html    . if i put my files outside may be at \folder  . what difference will it make. (i want to make files secure) but open for browsing. i have .php web
[12:38] <Jewfro-Macabbi> from the command line: pgp --list-keys
[12:38] <Jewfro-Macabbi> janbanan, above
[12:39] <Jewfro-Macabbi> janbanan, sorry , gpg --list-keys
[12:39] <xgt001> usr13: it gives me "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[12:39] <mamo> hi , apt wants to remove two packages, how can I tell it not to?
[12:39] <mamo> i need them since its grub
[12:39] <impiza> any one know how to install ubuntu to a pc using lan as first boot device ?
[12:39] <janbanan> Jewfro-Macabbi:  Thanks!!!  just add a 0x to them?
[12:39] <mamo> impiza: you can netboot your pc but it requires another machine on the network serving those features
[12:39] <usr13> xgt001: Must have been a typo.  Try again.  iwconfig | pastebinit
[12:40] <Jewfro-Macabbi> janbanan, ignore the 0x - your key id are the numbers after
[12:40] <mamo> i think you need tftp and some stuff. Cant give you more info then this but google will
[12:40] <janbanan> Jewfro-Macabbi:  ok, so I add one of them into the Evolution mail client?
[12:40] <xgt001> usr13: nope not a typo it shows, lo, eth0,pan0 and pp0 all as "no wireless extensions"
[12:41] <rooted-insideme> anyone know in vmware how do you get the system to reboot off the cd/.iso file so you can reinstall without deleting the vmware host and readdingit
[12:41] <Jewfro-Macabbi> janbanan, not familiar with evolution specificall, but this may help: http://scarah-rosenschvitz.blogspot.com/2009/05/encrypt-and-sign-your-emails.html
[12:41] <impiza> mamo i have did this in windows but i dont know how to do it in linux thats why ask this
[12:41] <usr13> xgt001: ipconfig | pastebinit  #And send URL
[12:41] <Benkinooby> com64, would you be so kind and paste the output of the command line when starting minitube from it? this is mine http://pastebin.com/32serC3Z
[12:41] <janbanan> Jewfro-Macabbi:  do I use the 8 digits after the slash or do I need the 1024/ too?
[12:42] <com64> Okay.
[12:42] <usr13> xgt001: Sorry that was a typo on my part.
[12:42] <szal> usr13: ipconfig?
[12:42] <mamo> impiza: is it because you want to install over network? or just boot over network
[12:42] <Jewfro-Macabbi> janbanan, you don't need the 1024/
[12:42] <xgt001> usr13: command not found
[12:42] <usr13> xgt001: ifconfig | pastebinit
[12:42] <impiza> install through network
[12:42] <mamo> impiza: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[12:43] <impiza> ipconfig its use in windows
[12:43] <usr13> Someone please bring me a cup of coffee.  My address is ....
[12:43] <mamo> you dont seem to have a specific problem. So just start following theese insctrutions
[12:43] <impiza> mamo thanks buddy
[12:43] <mamo> np
[12:43] <mamo> anyone know how to tell aptitude NOT to remove a package marked for removal?
[12:44] <jrib> mamo: install it?
[12:44] <rcconf> how can I change this http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu to another server close to me
[12:44] <mamo> jrib: its already installed
[12:44] <jrib> mamo: and what happens when you tell aptitude to install it?
[12:45] <rcconf> canonical servers are too slow
[12:45] <impiza> wow pastebin its great
[12:45] <mamo> jrib: already newest version is what I get
[12:45] <mamo> since its already installed
[12:45] <rcconf> overloaded
[12:45] <jrib> mamo: is it still marked for removal?
[12:45] <mamo> jrib: yup
[12:45] <usr13> xgt001: ifconfig -a  | pastebinit
[12:45] <monk> anyone getting this message? "The Composite extension is not available"
[12:45] <jrib> mamo: k, see « man aptitude » markauto and unmarkauto commands, possibly?
[12:45] <mamo> jrib:  thnx Ill have a look
[12:46] <com64> Benkinooby, this time arround, I didn't get as much text... maybe it's because it's not the first time starting it... http://pastebin.com/i9cK7HuX
[12:46] <usr13> xgt001: send URL
[12:46] <xgt001> http://pastebin.com/Da42cmJU
[12:46] <rcconf> how can i change partnet repositories
[12:47] <rcconf> r
[12:47] <xangua> rcconf: change what¿
[12:47] <dell> Hi, I have a problem can you help
[12:48] <rcconf> xangua: read above
[12:48] <Benkinooby> com64, thx... hm, don't know why my minitube is fu**d up... it seems like repeatedly doing the same thing and downloading some stuff
[12:48] <com64> Benkinooby, you try restarting it?
[12:49] <dell> releases.ubuntu.com is not working. I started to download using jdownload which creates 2 chunks. Now I can't continue with wget.
[12:49] <Benkinooby> com64, yes
[12:49] <dell> jdownloader
[12:49] <bobbyd> quup: I use htop and turn on tree view to inspect remote machines
[12:49] <rcconf> why im downloading sun-java from a slow repository
[12:49] <xangua> dell: you can try a torrent
[12:50] <usr13> xgt001: You said that the wifi device worked before you installed linux-backport-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.36 for bluetooth?  Am I understanding properly?
[12:50] <dell> My download is almost complete 97 %. Internet here is slow
[12:50] <xgt001> usr13: yes ,
[12:50] <xgt001> usr13: i cant remove that because i am mostly online from bluetooth
[12:50] <dell> http://releases.ubuntu.com//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso does not work
[12:51] <usr13> xgt001: pastebilnit is an application that will automatically paste files or output.  See man pastebinit
[12:52] <usr13> xgt001: Sorry, I sent that last one my mistake.
[12:52] <venol> helo, I'm use mailgraph to monitoring mail server,  If I send an email it gets counted as sent. It also gets counted as Received". Is this normal?
[12:53] <rcconf> dell: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso works for me
[12:53] <mamo> jrib: hmm that doesent seem to be it. This seems to be a bug of some kind.
[12:53] <xgt001> xgt001: is there a way i can install the backport without disturbing the wifi module
[12:53] <jrib> mamo: can you pastebin what you see in your terminal?
[12:53] <dell> really. May be it is us.releases.ubuntu or something like that. I want without any prefix
[12:53] <mamo> this is a fresh install. So the installer installed the grub efi package for me. Now that i reboot into the real os it wants to remove grub efi and install grub-pc
[12:53] <mamo> jrib: will do
[12:54] <xgt001> sorry usr13: is there a way i can install the backport without disturbing the wifi module	
[12:54] <usr13> xgt001: Well, I don't know for sure what to do in your situation.  I will tell you this though.  The only time I really trashed a Ubuntu systems was with backports.  I have no idea why a bluetooth driver (from backports) would cause your wifi device to quit working, but apparently it does.  I don't know of any way to fix it.  Sorry.
[12:55] <xgt001> usr13: it was a wireless backport to be precise
[12:55] <usr13> xgt001: Maybe someone else on here can give you some advise.
[12:55] <usr13> xgt001: You enabled backports on the package manager to get it.  Right?
[12:55] <mamo> jrib: http://pastebin.com/4fX5Dtdu
[12:56] <xgt001> usr13: yes
[12:57] <usr13> xgt001: I can only guess... But it is possible that if you uninstall linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.36 your wifi device may work again.  Only a guess, but you could try and see.
[12:58] <dell> releases.ubuntu.com Unable to load the webpage because the server sent no data
[12:58] <xgt001> usr13: yes it will work but tat will put me in a fix where i have to choose either bluetooth or wifi
[12:58] <jrib> mamo: I somehow thought you were using aptitude :P
[12:58] <mamo> jrib: i was using apt at first
[12:59] <mamo> aptitude gave more interaction
[12:59] <janbanan> Can  I please try to mail someone with PGP encryption? I need to see if my system works
[12:59] <mamo> jrib: they both want to remove the package though
[12:59] <shingen> janbanan: create yourself a yahoo or google account to test with
[12:59] <jrib> mamo: you're on an intel mac?
[12:59] <janbanan> shingen, ok. I get a error in Ecolution, can you try to help me?
[12:59] <mamo> yup
[13:00] <shingen> my headless server died... removed hdd, trying to boot in vbox but I get nothing.  where can I start with troubleshooting boot issues?
[13:00] <jrib> mamo: and using grub only (no rEFIt or bootcamp)?
[13:00] <mamo> jrib : getting it to tripple boot all my os:es has not been an easy ride :)
[13:00] <shingen> janbanan: sorry, I don't use evolution
[13:00] <mamo> i use bootcamp for windows
[13:00] <mamo> jrib: and refit as well to get all my oses in a nice menu
[13:00] <jrib> mamo: I don't think you need grub-efi, let me check my macbook
[13:01] <janbanan> shingen, maybe you understand the errors? Can I message you with the errors?
[13:01] <xgt001> usr13: when i try modprobe wl it shows "FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)"
[13:01] <shingen> janbanan: sorry,  I have my own issues which nobody has responded too
[13:01] <mamo> jrib: thnx.  I actually removed it last time around. It wouldnt boot anymore. not in efi mode at least. I kind of want to boot my mac in efi mode
[13:01] <jrib> mamo: though if you tell apt-get to not install recommends you can probably dist-upgrade fine
[13:02] <ptl1977> does anyone know of a good deduplication method or program?
[13:02] <soumya> hiiiiiii
[13:03] <jrib> mamo: yeah I just have grub-pc on my macbook (probably because of the same annoyance you're currently facing :P)
[13:03] <mamo> jrib: i have a 15" with efi i can pick wich gfx card I want. thats why i need it.
[13:03] <dell> site seems to be working but the download won't start. I need more 19MB
[13:03] <mamo> jrib: thanks alot for your support so far!
[13:03] <usr13> xgt001: You said when you "try modporbe wl it shows fatal Error"   What was that all about?
[13:04] <xgt001> usr13: i mean when i did "modprobe wl" it gave me ..." "FATAL: Error inserting wl (/lib/modules/2.6.32-28-generic/updates/dkms/wl.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)""
[13:05] <mamo> xgt001: what does uname tell you?
[13:05] <mamo> xgt001: type uname -a
[13:05] <jrib> mamo: I think your two options are to either run dist-upgrade without recommends or to upgrade the kernel first and explicitly request grub-efi: apt-get install linux-imageWHATEVER grub-efi
[13:06] <xgt001> mamo: Linux ganesh-laptop 2.6.32-28-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 10 21:21:01 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:06] <janbanan> Can someone please try to send me a pgp encrypted message?
[13:06] <jrib> mamo: here is a friend for you: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/800910
[13:06] <johnm> xgt001: I don't have the dkms bin or man page to hand, but try "dkms build wl" and try again
[13:07] <usr13> xgt001: Is this a laptop or a desktop?
[13:07] <johnm> xgt001: actually I think you need to isntall the build afterwards, so "dkms install wl" after that, and then try again ;)
[13:08] <xgt001> usr13: laptop johnm: thx wil try now
[13:08] <ichbinder> hello. Is there a history of Ubuntu's Update Manager? Since I used the update manager yesterday, some of my projects using opencv are making trouble... so I wanted to check if it has been updated.
[13:08] <mamo> jrib: you are like a god! , did some googling before coming in here. Thanx!
[13:09] <Pici> ichbinder: /var/log/dpkg.log includes all packages installed/updated
[13:09] <ichbinder> Pici: ah, thanks!
[13:09] <jrib> mamo: "apt-get ubuntu grub-efi recommends grub-pc" was the magic incantation
[13:10] <mamo> ravidar: it seems its been fixed not sure if that means the package is official. Ill just wait with dist-upgrading for a couple of days to see if i get it
[13:10] <xgt001> johnm: it shows error in number of parameters
[13:10] <usr13> xgt001: http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[13:11] <usr13> xgt001: Is the instructions you used $^^^^^
[13:11] <johnm> xgt001: man dkms, I don't have it to hand, dkms build -m wl? does it need a version? :)
[13:11] <johnm> usr13: it's a dkms orientated module, so almost certainly not:)
[13:11] <mamo> jrib: or ill just remove recomends temporarily. Anyway thnx again
[13:12] <jrib> mamo: no problem
[13:12] <usr13> xgt001: I saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1761812  which lead me to http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[13:12] <ichbinder> so weird: I had a script that was running a binary for a number of possible argument combinations. The code was using opencv's SVD. During the update, which didn't update opencv itself, the script suddenly gave me a segfault and does so since then... :(
[13:12] <ichbinder> and it happens when calling cv::SVD()... maybe something for #opencv
[13:13] <edbian> ichbinder: Is the script seg faulting or the binary?
[13:13] <ichbinder> edbian: the binary
[13:13] <edbian> ichbinder: stl ?
[13:13] <ichbinder> edbian: somewhere in cv::SVD
[13:13] <xgt001> johnm: i did dkms build -m wl it shows invalid module
[13:14] <edbian> ichbinder: mmm, IDK :)
[13:14] <johnm> xgt001: specify a version? check the man page :)
[13:14] <johnm> "man dkms"
[13:14] <ichbinder> edbian: yeah... pretty stupid. :(
[13:14] <johnm> http://linux.dell.com/dkms/manpage.html - looks like you do indeed need a version
[13:15] <johnm> check out /var/dkms/wl/* for a list of versions
[13:15] <usr13> xgt001: Is this a 64bit or 32bit system?
[13:15] <niravana> I used alternate install CD, how do I remove graphical login just like ubuntu-server edition has console login?
[13:15] <xgt001> by the way i installed only compat-wireless backport, should i install the remaining wireless backports also? is it the reason?
[13:16] <onca> what is the toolbar called? I have an issue where the font is too dark and I can't seem to change it.
[13:16] <niravana> i removed ubuntu-desktop, xorg, gdm, but still no luck getting console login
[13:16] <Layke> Whats a browser I can use from SSH?
[13:16] <onca> so, when an application is maximized the file menus end up there but they're grey as is the toolbar.
[13:16] <shingen> blargh, my grub got hosed... wtf
[13:16] <usr13> Layke: lynx
[13:16] <niravana> Layke: links, lynx
[13:16] <jink> Layke: lynx / w3m / elinks / whatever
[13:17] <Layke> Cheers. w3m was the one thats already on the system. I couldn't remember it.
[13:17] <Layke> Lynx was missing when I tried.
[13:17] <jink> What did I win? :)
[13:17] <xgt001> usr13: 32 bit
[13:22] <benedict__> hi, can some1 with ubuntu 10.04 install minitube and tell me if it works?
[13:22] <benedict__> minitube is in the repos
[13:22] <xangua> benedict__: add minitube PPA
[13:22] <xangua> https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/minitube
[13:22] <benedict__> xangua, are you using the ppa?
[13:23] <dyd> how can i list the folders that a certain server shares in lan?
[13:23] <xangua> benedict__: i do not use minitube
[13:23] <rooted-insideme> does this look correct for port forwarding with iptables http://paste.ubuntu.com/643240/
[13:23] <onca> anyone familiar with gnome's panel at the top of the screen, it's fonts are too dark and I can't read them
[13:23] <rooted-insideme> I do have ipt=/sbin/iptables inside the scrpt at the top
[13:23] <dyd> ok done
[13:25] <usr13> dyd: What was your solution?
[13:26] <dyd> usr13: places -> network :)
[13:26] <dyd> usr13: btw is there a way to see shares by command line?
[13:26] <usr13> dyd: Ok good.  I was thinking if it were nfs you'd find them in /etc/exports
[13:27] <melvincv> Hi all, I need a good download manager for Natty.
[13:27] <usr13> dyd: cat /etc/exports  ?
[13:27] <benedict__> Pici, what ubuntu do you use? and do you use the minitube ppa?
[13:27] <xgt001> melvincv: try commandline wget
[13:27] <dyd> usr13: the shares are from another server
[13:28] <melvincv> wget supports multiple connections?
[13:28] <xgt001> melvincv: yes
[13:28] <usr13> dyd: less /etc/fstab
[13:28] <usr13> dyd: Just guessing.  Don't know how you have them mounted.
[13:29] <usr13> dyd: mount
[13:29] <melvincv> Good. Some links copied from the browser end with random characters. The browser resolves and gets the correct link. How may I do this when I use wget?
[13:29] <rumba> Lemme guess... build-essential is a meta-package that only installs other packages. Right?
[13:30] <usr13> dyd: Do you see them in the output of mount ?
[13:31] <tzhuang> hello. can anyone tell me how i can remove the transparent panel in middle right side of this screen?
[13:31] <tzhuang> for ibus input
[13:31] <tzhuang> http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5233/screenshotiwi.png
[13:34] <usr13> rumba: Ubuntu does not come with the tools required to compile from source and build packages from "tarballs".  Installing build-essential solves that for you.
[13:34] <melvincv> .
[13:35] <rumba> But what happens if I install that package? Will the packages from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/build-essential be installed?
[13:36] <brainwave92> rumba,  if you install that package, you can build all programs when you have the source package
[13:36] <melvincv> For example, how do I download this link with wget? It's an mp3. http://link1.songs.pk/song1.php?songid=8520
[13:36] <rumba> melvincv: wget http://link1.songs.pk/song1.php?songid=8520
[13:36] <Pici> rumba: yes, but replace dapper with a release that is actually supported.
[13:37] <rumba> Pici: Ok, thanks
[13:37] <iceroot> melvincv: wget "url" instead of wget url.  "" is trying to resolf the link
[13:37] <melvincv> Great! Thanks! I'll try that out.
[13:38] <coolwind> heool
[13:38] <coolwind> hello
[13:38] <Parameter> hello
[13:39] <usr13> rumba: apt-cache showpkg build-essential
[13:39] <melvincv> It works! But how many connections is wget making by default?
[13:39] <brainwave92> coolwind, you'll be in trouble with more hellos!
[13:40] <edGe06> hey guys, got a question about mail. I installed mailutils and i can get mail (from cron) but I was wondering.. how do i delete these messages? thanks
[13:41] <llutz> edGe06: press "d"
[13:42] <edGe06> llutz yeah i tried that.. i pressed d until it said "No applicable messages".. so i did exit, then when i go back into mail, theyre still there :/
[13:45] <Cube``> guys, why do i get this: The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[13:45] <benedict__> anyone with ubuntu 10.04 know software that plays videos from youtube? minitube and totem could but i think the youtube api is changed so i would have to go for PPAs (don'T want, once killed my system) and vlc could too if i used a PPA. so is there software that does what i want out of the box?
[13:46] <Cube``> i cant get to install them, not even using the gui package manager
[13:47] <xangua> benedict__: already updated minitube with the ppa¿
[13:47] <melvincv> Hi, how do I change the no. of connections to the download server in wget? This is essential in a download accelerator, right?
[13:48] <usr13> benedict__: So wht goal is to play youtube videos in some other way rather than via a browser?
[13:49] <benedict__> xangua, no, as i said before, i once messed with PPAs and ended up with a messy system. i'd rather look for alternatives before playing with ppas
[13:49] <benedict__> usr13, yes
[13:49] <sipior> melvincv: wget is not a download accelerator.
[13:49] <rumba> usr13: thanks
[13:50] <KNUBBIG> is it possible to run emerald with unity?
[13:50] <benedict__> usr13, earlier i did it with vlc, but in ubuntu 10.04 it's not at the version vlc needs to play youtube (further on, if you make a youtube playlist in vlc the playlist will be modified by vlc)
[13:50] <melvincv> Oh, I see. I need a download accelerator then.
[13:50] <usr13> benedict__: Well, if you just download the flash video files, you can view them how ever you want.  Right?  Or do you still want to view them in a streaming fashion?
[13:50] <xangua> KNUBBIG: i believe no
[13:50] <benedict__> usr13, then i tried totem but never got anywhere and today i was told about minitube, which  seems to work flawlessly in ubuntu 11
[13:51] <blinkyb> hi. I can't see the Sound control on the taskbar! i can't adjust sound :/
[13:51] <KNUBBIG> xangua: ok that matches my experience, thanks :D
[13:51] <benedict__> usr13, i want to stream them. the perfect thign would be: open the programm, enter what i search for, see the suggestions of youtube, choose on and play it
[13:52] <systemd0wn> benedict__: Lol. Like in firefox?
[13:52] <benedict__> systemd0wn, yes. and it works, at least in minitube and totem
[13:53] <benedict__> systemd0wn, but it seems that things work better in ubuntu 11 than in 10.04
[13:55] <benedict__> systemd0wn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abLOxZPIPcI from 1:50 on
[13:55] <benedict__> to see a showcase
[13:55] <eraggo> it's weird that my small aiptek drawing board works in fedora just right but in ubuntu it works weirdly :(
[13:56] <wamicho> my mysql server brings this error whenever i try to log in ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)  what is this
[13:56] <mgolisch> wamicho: its not running?
[13:57] <wamicho> mgolisch  it is running
[13:57] <mgolisch> wamicho: you sure?
[13:57] <mgolisch> wamicho: where does it give that error? and how do you connect?
[13:58] <systemd0wn> benedict__: Interesting. I'll have to check that out when i'm at my personal computer. Now why cant you use that if its what's you want?
[13:58] <hoshi411> when I open up nautilus there is a "Network" in the left hand "Places" column
[13:58] <wamicho> mgolisch : its service status is  mysql start/running
[13:58] <mikemol> How do I enable TCP transport for X11? I'm trying to track down an issue with wireshark, and X-over-SSH is in the way.
[13:59] <hoshi411> when I click on that I can see my computer name and "windows netowrk"
[13:59] <hoshi411> but when I click on my computer there are no files inside?
[13:59] <wamicho> when i try to log in from terminal it  brings that error
[13:59] <blinkyb> hi. I can't see the Sound control on the taskbar! i can't adjust sound :/
[13:59] <usr13> benedict__: You might try dragonplayer
[13:59] <sipior> mikemol: you logged into the remote host using the -X switch to ssh?
[13:59] <hoshi411> How do I put my computer's files inside there?
[13:59] <mikemol> I tried modifying /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas to set DisallowTCP to false, but that didn't work.
[13:59] <hoshi411> i tried copy paste but it gave me an error
[14:00] <mikemol> sipior: ssh -X hostname appname works fine, but I need to see the X11 traffic in wireshark to debug a protocol issue.
[14:00] <hoshi411> "operation not supported by backend"
[14:00] <sipior> mikemol: ah, i see what you mean.
[14:00] <mgolisch> wamicho: check your config then whetver the socket it tries to connect to is valid
[14:00] <mgolisch> wamicho: id still think mysql is not running or not running anymore
[14:01] <mgolisch> wamicho: like does ps aux|grep mysqld return anything?
[14:02] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: are you using xampp?
[14:02] <mgolisch> does your server listen on unix sockets at all?
[14:03] <mgolisch> if not try to sepcify the hosts ip
[14:03] <benedict__> systemd0wn, i think youtube changed it's API and this is why minitube or totem can not correctly access the videos
[14:03] <wamicho> mgolisch :  it returns this anold     1826  0.0  0.0   3320   800 pts/0    S+   17:03   0:00 grep --color=auto mysqld
[14:03] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: stock mysql or xampp?
[14:03] <benedict__> systemd0wn, seems like in ubuntu 11 the adapted to that change, and in ubuntu 10.04 they did not
[14:03] <sipior> mikemol: does your current gdm process have the "-nolisten tcp" switch on?
[14:04] <systemd0wn> Ah. And its not maintained i take it
[14:04] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: if stock /etc/init.d/mysqld start (I think)
[14:04] <benedict__> usr13, i can not see any hints that dragonplayer plays videos from the youtube web site
[14:04] <mgolisch> wamicho: nothing else? this means there is no mysqld running
[14:04] <Pici> benedict__: You might be able to find a PPA for minitube for Lucid.
[14:04] <brainwave92> what do i do if my screen freezes sometimse? only my mouse moves, no click no other response? i usually switch to a virtual terminal, and restart X but that kills my apps. Any solution?
[14:04] <systemd0wn> Oh. Well update the package. If you have 10.04 it shoulnt be hard.
[14:05] <sipior> mikemol: also, is port 6000 open on the target machine?
[14:05] <hoshi411> anyone know how to get a LAN network going with Nautilus?
[14:05] <hoshi411> both my computers are able to see the network but I don't know how to share folders/files
[14:05] <wamicho> mgolisch :  but i did   sudo apt-get install mysql-server so what is the problem here
[14:07] <wamicho> mgolisch : yeah   no  mysqld ....
[14:07] <wamicho> mgolisch :  it's just mysql
[14:07] <mikemol> sipior: re port 6000...lsof|grep LISTEN does not indicate any process is listening on that port.
[14:07] <rkhshm> is there a utility that can show current processor /memory usage?
[14:07] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: top
[14:08] <rkhshm> KNUBBIG: top i know.
[14:08] <Thrawn> sudo chown -R root:root eclipse
[14:08] <rkhshm> but something that can be pinned to the homescreen
[14:08] <sipior> mikemol: okay, can you confirm that "-nolisten tcp" appears in the argument list for the gdm process?
[14:08] <Thrawn> what does that do?
[14:08] <AlexDevilLX> can i make evolution woek like daemon?
[14:08] <mikemol> sipior: sipior Huh. Yeah, the current gdm instance has -nolisten tcp. Not sure why.
[14:08] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: conky and a nice layout
[14:08] <Thrawn> what does that do? (apart from the sudo) sudo chown -R root:root eclipse
[14:08] <mikemol> sipior: give me about 30-40s while I restart gdm.
[14:09] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: try /etc/init.d/mysql start and watch for error messages
[14:09] <bean> rkhshm: top ?
[14:09] <bean> rkhshm: htop?
[14:09] <benedict__> Pici, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=minitube this is what i found ... how do i know if the first one https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/minitube is for ubuntu 10.04?
[14:09] <KNUBBIG> for pinning to homescreen? I'd prefer conky
[14:09] <cybervolfe> hey can anyone suggest new technical topics presentation
[14:10] <Pici> benedict__: click on it and see if lucid is in the release drop down
[14:10] <venol> helo, I'm use mailgraph to monitoring mail server,  If I send an email it gets counted as sent. It also gets counted as Received". Is this normal?
[14:10] <wamicho> mgolisch :   /etc/init.d/mysqld: command not found
[14:10] <cybervolfe> i have to do a seminar on new technology
[14:10] <sipior> mikemol: is this 11.04, by any chance?
[14:10] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: /etc/init.d/mysql
[14:10] <benedict__> Pici, ah ok, it has thx
[14:10] <mikemol> sipior: Restarted gdm, X and gdm sessions both still have -nolisten tcp. And, yes, this is 11.04
[14:10] <qin> Thrawn: changing ownership of "eclipse" to root user and root group, recrusivly.
[14:10] <wamicho> KNUBBIG: that works
[14:10] <Thrawn> oh, thanks
[14:10] <sipior> mikemol: does the nolisten switch appear in /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas?
[14:10] <cybervolfe> any latest freaking topics?
[14:11] <qin> Thrawn: man chown
[14:11] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: then try logging into mysql again
[14:11] <sipior> mikemol: (this is apparently a change from earlier versions, where it appears in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc)
[14:11] <wamicho> so what  is the right script  mysql or mysqld
[14:11] <Pici> cybervolfe: Try #ubuntu-offtopic  - #ubuntu is for Ubuntu Support only.
[14:11] <skarufue> cybervolfe: write about unity and how DEs evolve in general
[14:11] <hoshi411> this looks promising https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[14:12] <mikemol> sipior: the .schemas file looks XML-ish, and nothing with a dash appears. There is a DisallowTCP, but I set that to false.
[14:12] <sipior> mikemol: does the nolisten string appear?
[14:12] <KNUBBIG> wamicho: you might as well use (I think it's recommended) sudo service mysql start     (or restart)
[14:12] <nomade> prova
[14:12] <nomade> exit
[14:12] <Thrawn> i got that GNU nano editor inside the terminal now; how do i "save and exit" ?
[14:13] <mikemol> sipior: No
[14:13] <Pici> Thrawn: ctrl-o then  ctrl-x
[14:13] <skarufue> Thrawn: or F2
[14:13] <wamicho> KNUBBIG: tried all that
[14:14] <Thrawn> pici: after i ctrl+o / F2 i get "file name to write: ..." and some options
[14:14] <sipior> mikemol: do you have gdm.schemas in both /usr/share/gdm and /etc/gdm?
[14:14] <Thrawn> DOS format , mac format , append , ...
[14:14] <sipior> mikemol: and are they the same?
[14:14] <benedict__> Pici, installed the ppa... music works, but no vid... but i am on youtube for the music so i maybe look at tit later... thx. sorry for making such a fuzz... once i installed a ppa work one singe thing, but the ppa seemed to update half of my system to unsupported version ...
[14:14] <mikemol> sipior: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc looks like it has -nolisten tcp hardcoded, but I can't verify whether or not that's being run atm.
[14:14] <rkhshm> and how do i initiate conky
[14:15]  * mikemol checks on /usr/share/gdm
[14:15] <rkhshm> from termial i ran conky and it didnt throw up a GUI.
[14:15] <rkhshm> nor can i find it from the app search
[14:15] <qin> rkhshm: Alt-F2 conky (with eventual options, man conky)
[14:15] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: I only used it with a preconfigured layout ... it has no GUI :)
[14:15] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: you might search www.webupd8.org for conky .. there are some nice layouts
[14:16] <qin> rkhshm: What gui, conky gui?
[14:16] <rkhshm> qin: yes
[14:16] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: It has no GUI
[14:16] <mikemol> sipior: Yes, I have /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas. The only difference between that and /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas appears to be the change I made to DisallowTCP in the /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas file.
[14:16] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: only a display when a layout is given :)
[14:16] <rkhshm> KNUBBIG: ah.. ok
[14:16] <sipior> mikemol: and if you make that change in the first file, and restart gdm?
[14:16] <mikemol> sipior: sec while I try it.
[14:16] <rkhshm> but alt+f2 conky does not show anything up either
[14:17] <Zzarkc-20> What's the syntax for outputting the output from a command line into a text file?
[14:17] <qin> rkhshm: Not sure there is such think, conky have is configuration file and templates to display stuff you want, edit those, in gedit i.e.
[14:17] <cdavis> Anyone else getting this from bitlbee's repo? Failed to fetch http://code.bitlbee.org/debian/devel/natty/amd64/./bitlbee_3.0.3+devel+801-1_amd64.deb  Size mismatch
[14:17] <KNUBBIG> rkhshm: it won't show anything until you give it a .conkyrc (I think that's right) in your homefolder defining its layout
[14:17] <rkhshm> hmm..
[14:17] <rkhshm> ok
[14:18] <mikemol> sipior: X server is now correctly listening on TCP. One more thing to try (resetting the /etc version)
[14:18] <mikemol> (Just to verify that whatever's in /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas is overriding the /etc version)
[14:18] <sipior> mikemol: looks like a bug in gdm, reading the wrong config file.
[14:19] <cifaru> hi
[14:19] <benedict__> !ppa
[14:19] <benedict__> !ppa-purge
[14:20] <m4xx> is there any easy to globally associate .rdp files with tsclient. like can i make a .rdp file a pseudo mime type or something?
[14:20] <blinkyb> hi. I can't see the Sound control on the taskbar! i can't adjust sound :/
[14:20] <mikemol> sipior: Yup. Regardless of the content of /etc/gdm/gdm.schemas, the DisallowTCP setting in /usr/share/gdm/gdm.schemas is what's relevant.
[14:20] <mikemol> Guess I'll file a launchpad bug.
[14:21] <cifaru> where  can find a skipe messanger working un xubuntu-netbook?
[14:21] <sipior> mikemol: might already be up, but doesn't hurt to check
[14:22] <m4xx> i know i can right - go into properties and change the opens with. but that's only per user.
[14:22] <roasted> Question - if I'm running DHCP Server on Ubuntu and I have 2 NICs, will both NICs (with static IP, dns, gateway, subnet, etc) BOTH hand out IP addresses? Or would the DHCP Server service be assigned to one in specific?
[14:22] <gp5st> i would like to set up a mail client that will only send mail to my local machine (it's a dev box).  What would be the best way to do that?
[14:23] <buggyer> hi, trying to setup ldap replication with snycrepl, but i get only ldap_sasl_bind_s failed (49)
[14:23] <buggyer>  in syslog
[14:23] <benedict__> !ppa-purge
[14:23] <sipior> roasted: the dhcp server can be assigned to listen to a single interface, if desired.
[14:24] <dli> gp5st, I remember mailx is easy to set up, you mean local delivery (localhost), or over LAN?
[14:24] <roasted> sipior, by default does it fire out addresses from all NICs?
[14:24] <Cube``> guys, why do i get this: The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[14:24] <Cube``> i cant get to install them, not even using the gui package manager
[14:24] <sipior> roasted: i imagine it would, yes.
[14:24] <dli> Cube``, what happens, if you do: sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[14:25] <gp5st> dli: localhost
[14:25] <gp5st> i'll look into mailx
[14:25] <dli> gp5st, when you install, debconf should ask you about the question: local delivery only or internet site
[14:26] <gp5st> dli: thanks:)
[14:28] <tzhuang> hellow
[14:32] <gp5st> dli: that worked perfectly!!!
[14:33] <DANYAL> hello
[14:33] <DANYAL> any one there for help i got error in glibc
[14:34] <Pici> DANYAL: Provide some details, and maybe someone can help.
[14:35] <DANYAL> ok
[14:35] <DANYAL> Eggdrop v1.6.19 (C) 1997 Robey Pointer (C) 2008 Eggheads
[14:35] <DANYAL> *** glibc detected *** ./eggdrop: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x09c534c8 ***
[14:35] <DANYAL> b7f06000-b7f0a000 rw-p 00101000 fd:01 44695561                       Aborted (core dumped)
[14:35] <dyd> what's the best linux release to set up a web server?
[14:35] <ppp> vista
[14:35] <Abhijit> dyd, ##linux.
[14:36] <Abhijit> withought dot
[14:36] <jpds> dyd: Do you maybe mean Ubuntu release?
[14:36] <dyd> jpds: no i was thinking about a general one, not in particular ubuntu
[14:37] <jpds> dyd: Well, Linux is just a kernel, so ...
[14:37] <Abhijit> dyd, look on distrowatch.org
[14:37] <dyd> thanks
[14:39] <Monotoko> hi guys...how can I find the details on why an update is required after an update...will I be affected badly if I do it later rather than right now?
[14:40] <Pici> DANYAL: 1) If you're not already, use the release of eggdrop that is in the repositories 2) Try asking in #eggdrop
[14:40] <mikemol> sipior: Wasn't there yet. So filed it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/809918
[14:40] <psyk0> #backtrack-fr
[14:41] <munzx> hi! can any one help me with this ; i am new to linux and  i am trying to open (arabic letters) files with text editor but i just get unreadable charecters , this just happned today before that i had no problem with it!!
[14:41] <sipior> mikemol: thanks for doing that.
[14:41] <venol> helo, I'm use mailgraph to monitoring mail server,  If I send an email it gets counted as sent. It also gets counted as Received". Is this normal?
[14:42] <BitWraith> I contacted you guys last night about Wubi not being able to download the ISO image. I waited untill morning for the ISO to finish downloading, and put it in the same directory as Wubi. wubi still tells me it can't download the image. :-/
[14:42] <sipior> mikemol: i'm quite curious to see how they respond :-)
[14:44] <juanchi> hi, im getting into opensource software programminmg with C... Do you people know any good tutorials of autotools, writing makefiles etc? Thanks in advance
[14:44] <Pici> juanchi: ##C would be a better place to ask for those resources.
[14:44] <Abhijit> juanchi, you may also like to attend these https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek
[14:45] <munzx> Bitratith : i am new to linux but i had similiar prob ; wubi dont recognize iso if it was not "sutiable" for your machine ; i have 64 bit processor and i was trying to load 32 bit iso! ... so finally i installed it using stick memory! with 32 bit and it just worked fine!
[14:47] <cuyos> Hi, I'm having big problems with ubuntu server 11.04, ajax calls are incredible slow in local host, we think it might be either the network card (broadcomm netxtreme gigabit 5716) or some missconfiguration of the lamp server, do you knwo where can we get help??
[14:51] <karthick87> Any one here running apt-cacher-ng ? How to import CD cache ?
[14:52] <MrRagga> mysql> CREATE VIEW package_names.v AS SELECT distinct(pkg_name) FROM packages where pkg_dist like '%unitix-60%';
[14:52] <MrRagga> ERROR 1 (HY000): Can't create/write to file './package_names/v.frm~' (Errcode: 2)
[14:53] <MrRagga> what can be the reason for it? i already checked the database folder which is writeable for the mysql process.
[14:53] <Monotoko> hi guys...is there any way to make the "Update Manager" flag up which updates are going to cause me to have to reboot?
[14:54] <popey> Monotoko: a common question, no, in short
[14:54] <ppp> seems like my new netbook has actually two graphic cards, does that make sense ? seems to have an Intel GMA 3150, aswell as a Ion Next Gen
[14:54] <Monotoko> popey, damn...if a reboot is required...can it wait a few days...or does it need doing now?
[14:54] <popey> Monotoko: depends what is updated
[14:54] <popey> Monotoko: generally you can leave it
[14:55] <popey> Monotoko: I have had systems wait weeks before being rebooted
[14:55] <Monotoko> popey, I think it was a kernel update
[14:56] <ppp> It seems like my new netbook has actually two graphic cards, does that make sense ? it seems to have an Intel GMA 3150, aswell as a Ion Next Gen, but why would it have 2 graphic cards ?
[14:56] <ppp> (i read it on internet, didnt check myself)
[14:57] <skarufue> ppp: one for oomph the other one to save power. it switsches between the two
[14:57] <ppp> oic
[14:57] <ppp> ty
[14:57] <BitWraith> Windows does. I think Xorg has to be restarted to swith under Linux.
[14:57] <skarufue> BitWraith: sadly yes
[14:58] <BitWraith> It's too bad X11 doesn't have a way to separate programs from one server and connect them to another ala screen... it wouldn't be such a big deal to restart
[14:58] <Zzarkc-20> I just recently got some sound distortion. How would I restart my sound?
[14:58] <skarufue> BitWraith: its even worse in some makes/models bove cards run all the time if no control software is present
[14:58] <asdjaputra> Monotoko, if you think the kernel update isn't important (you don't need newer drivers), then its ok to leave it
[14:59] <v0lksman> anyone know where to get the xul-ext-indicator addon for Thunderbird 5?
[15:00] <BitWraith> skarufue, only one of the cards is actually connected to the VGA port, right? Doesn't high power mode still use the little integrated GPU as a framebuffer? ... or do you end up with two graphics card talking to one monitor? :-S
[15:02] <skarufue> BitWraith: No its more like the powerfull one just sits around reciving no input so is not sending any output either. but eats power. while the weak one does all the work. (can be cahnged in bios luckily). i am not shure about he precise implementation though.
[15:03] <BitWraith> wierd
[15:04] <Zzarkc-20> Anyone know how to restart the audio without restarting the computer? I'm seeing things like alsa-util reload, but that's not under my init.d/
[15:05] <ariefbayu> guys, I've question regarding synaptic (the touchpad). I've hp pavilion g4 and it has a button to disabled touchpad. On windows, after installing synaptic driver, if I double tap it, touchpad disable. However, this doesn't work on ubuntu (11.04). I want to know if there are work around this?
[15:06] <odium> I have alsa-restore in init.d
[15:06] <odium> I would try alsa-restore restart
[15:07] <cojack> guys
[15:07] <Zzarkc-20> odium, I tried that. Doesn't work. I finally found someone who commented a correction to use /sbin/alsa reload.
[15:07] <odium> so many people join/part this channel.
[15:07] <odium> it's terrible
[15:07] <cojack> any tutorial how to mount through ssh which pem some data?
[15:09] <cojack> ?
[15:11] <kkb110> how can I monitor a file that is being written by another application in realtime?
[15:12] <llutz> kkb110: tailf "file"
 Hi, I'm having big problems with ubuntu server 11.04, ajax calls are incredible slow in local host, we think it might be either the network card (broadcomm netxtreme gigabit 5716) or some missconfiguration of the lamp server, do you knwo where can we get help??
[15:12] <MichaelDoe> Hello guys. Just having some serious trouble with my Ubuntu 11.04. Just updated my kernel - and now the new Kernel'd Linux won't start. When trying to start, it switches between a totally black (off) screen and a command prompt screen (just an underscore). Before that problem, Linux froze and showed a messy picture when starting blender in windowed mode. The current possibility for me is that I use under GRUB Earlier Versions or 
[15:12] <llutz> kkb110: if "application" just appends lines
[15:13] <MichaelDoe> Looks like the kernel update + blender messed it up - but i dont know why.
[15:13] <whowantstolivefo> i cannot view my 60 ip cameras in ubunti with firefox, it asks me rtsp password and username if i click to display any camera, it works in IE but not in firefox, help please
[15:13] <MichaelDoe> ...and neither how to restore it.
[15:14] <Milossh> whowantstolivefo, do you use any app for that?
[15:14] <kkb110> llutz: thanks it works well
[15:14] <BluesKaj> trying setup pw-less ssh login , but when I do : ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub remote-host , I get this /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found.. I assume ssh-copy-id looks ~/.ssh  which has the dsa and rsa keys . Editing ssh-copy-id is beyond my knowledge , so what can i do to configure this ? Been searching on the forums but not much there.
[15:15] <tomodachi> BluesKaj: use the command ssh-keygen
[15:15] <tomodachi> to generate theese identities
[15:15] <tomodachi> it will prompt you for a password for the key
[15:15] <tomodachi> jsut press enter to have a passwordless key
[15:15] <tjiggi_fo> MichaelDoe, you can use Startup-Manager (from Synaptic if not yet installed) to change the boot order of your kernels. You can use Synaptic to remove the faulty kernel
[15:16] <llutz> BluesKaj: ls -l ~/.ssh/id_rsa*             does the keypair exist?
[15:16] <dyd> i have installed wubi, and when i turn on computer it shows "Windows..." and below "Ubuntu", but windows is by default: how can i set ubuntu default?
[15:16] <roasted> I remember hearing that QT and GTK would be utilized together in Ubuntu into the future. Has that happened already with 11.04?
[15:17] <whowantstolivefo> Milossh: no, i only enter 192.168.2.200:81 this address to toolbar, and go administrator page of camera, after i use camera network admin password, and there is cameras list, and when i click to any camera for display, it says ` Password Requested for RTSP Server ` and it shows my username in box, after this wants password, even if i enter my root password or admin password of camera, it doesnt show anything and i cant see cameras,
[15:17] <BluesKaj> tomodachi, llutz yes the keys are generated ...Iwas using a pw , but I thought I'd try the pw-less , since this is strictly on the lan
[15:18] <elfelvin> dyd: do you know what boot manager you are using?
[15:18] <elfelvin> or boot loader even
[15:19] <MichaelDoe> Using GRUB2
[15:19] <Milossh> whowantstolivefo, I assume it needs Active-x, did you check if it works in Firefox on Windows?
[15:19] <Milossh> if that's the case, use wine+ie on ubuntu
[15:19] <dyd> elfelvin: nope
[15:19] <whowantstolivefo> Milossh:  i read firefox doesnt support Activex for some reason :(
[15:20] <Milossh> security, for one
[15:20] <elfelvin> dyd: funny story ... i googled and this is what i got https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_make_Ubuntu_the_default_boot_option.3F
[15:20] <whowantstolivefo> Milossh:  is there no similar add on activex in firefox ?
[15:20] <Milossh> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/ActiveX
[15:20] <llutz> BluesKaj: thats odd. use the old fashioned way: "scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@host:~/pubkey " then ssh into remote host, and "cat ~/pubkey >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && rm ~/pubkey"
[15:20] <Dulak> activeX was a horrible thing, be glad it is dying with IE
[15:20] <Milossh> whowantstolivefo, no
[15:21] <dyd> elfelvin: lol, thank you
[15:21] <elfelvin> np
[15:21] <whowantstolivefo> Milossh: so i cant display my cameras ? any other browser in ubuntu also ?
[15:22] <dyd> how can i set graphical settings to the fastest ones?
[15:22] <Milossh> whowantstolivefo, I don't think so, no
[15:22] <Milossh> but first check if it requires activex
[15:22] <Milossh> go to windows box, run ie, disable activex, restart it, and try to view your cams
[15:22] <Milossh> if it's not working, that's it
[15:23] <whowantstolivefo> Milossh: okay i will try i go other room, thanks.
[15:23] <MichaelDoe> Thank you everyone, but I cant seem to be able to change really much with that synaptic thingy
[15:24] <MichaelDoe> How to remove the kernel with it?
[15:25] <ceed^> Removing the kernel may cause some slight problems :)
[15:25] <b0n1> hey, is there an easy way to unzip all files of a zipfile not caring about subdirectorys in the zip file
[15:26] <kantxx> how do i enable psuedo-teletype terminals?
[15:28] <b0n1> maybe i have to rephrase the question: how can i unzip all non directory files in a zip file
[15:29] <mikemol> b0n1: Possibly using something like this: http://freshmeat.net/projects/fuse-zip
[15:30] <mikemol> kantxx: They should be enabled by default. They're called 'pty's, and are necessary for things like 'screen' 'xterm' 'konsole' and 'gnome-terminal' to work.
[15:30] <pteague_work> hmm... any ideas as to why the cron.daily for logrotate would complain about the postrotate script for '/var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log' ?
[15:30] <mikemol> kantxx: The only way I know of for them to not be enabled is if your kernel doesn't have support compiled-in.
[15:31] <faz_> lame question time but here goes: what are some things i can do to make my ubuntu11 desktop look kewl as hell :)
[15:31] <mikemol> (Which I've never seen, really)
[15:31] <fishscene> faz_: for starters, get a background that you love.
[15:31] <mikemol> pteague_work: On my debian system, logrotate complains if I don't clear out the old rotated logs; I get emailed snippets of the log files it's deleting. Perhaps you need to do some cleanup?
[15:31] <asdjaputra> !ot | faz_
[15:32] <dyd> how can i set graphical settings to the fastest ones?
[15:33] <pteague_work> mikemol, well, /var/log/mysql.{err,log,log.1} all have a size of 0 & there's no .gz files... /var/log/mysql/error.log is 31525... & i'm not seeing a mysql-slow.log ... hmm... maybe that's the issue?
[15:35] <mikemol> pteague_work: Maybe. Also check permissions for logrotate, for the files it's supposed to be moving around, how many archived copies it's configured to allow, whether or not it's able to control mysqld (if it needs to), and whether or not the disk is getting full-ish.
[15:35] <mikemol> More or less random ideas. :)
[15:35] <pteague_work> mikemol, thanks for the ideas :)
[15:36] <ichag> h
[15:36] <BluesKaj> llutz, do you mean "cat ~/.ssh/pubkey >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && rm ~/.ssh/pubkey"  ?
[15:37] <wh1zz0> Hi guys.. Please I'm trying to set up my Lan to distribute internet via my wireless ad-hoc which I set up but I still cannot get it to work. I share my lan connection, I turn on my WiFi but the other computers only see the networ but cannot access the internet. Please help. I'm doing this without a router, I use ubuntu 11.04. Please help
[15:37] <dholbach> UDW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek) day 3 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:38] <ubun> Some one left a Server out by the dumpster. I picked it up. can i do anything usefull with it? like install ubuntu in it? it looks like it was used for security cameras...
[15:38] <BluesKaj> llutz, nm , fooling with thepubkeys mau cause some grief , maybe ill just use the pw to stay safe :)
[15:39] <llutz> BluesKaj: nope, read my line again :)
[15:40] <mikemol> wh1zz0: I'd venture a guess that you need to set up a DHCP server on your 'ad-hoc' network. Otherwise, the other wireless clients won't know which IP their gateway is on. AFAIK, there's no simple, graphical way to do this; you'll likely need to learn how to use a DHCP server like ISC's or dnsmasq.
[15:40] <llutz> BluesKaj: you can scp that file wherever you want, just use the same path/filename in both commands
[15:41] <mikemol> llutz: Note that using scp, you may overwrite any existing entries in authorized_keys
[15:41] <llutz> BluesKaj: ~/pubkey is just a temporary file in this case
[15:41] <llutz> mikemol:i know, you also should read what i wrote above. ;)
[15:41] <mikemol> Having difficulty finding it. Too much join/part spam in here. :)
[15:42] <galamar> Hello, is there anyway I can mount an linux iso on my ubuntu desktop and use the mount iso to install linux on a slave hdd?
[15:42] <wh1zz0> Whew
[15:42] <llutz> mikemol:  "scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@host:~/pubkey " then ssh into remote host, and "cat ~/pubkey >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && rm ~/pubkey"   wont overwrite anything important
[15:42] <ikonia> galamar: the only method is bootstrapping but that's not something I'd suggest
[15:42] <mikemol> Ah, yeah. That's the reasonable way to do it.
[15:42] <ikonia> galamar: just boot from the CD and install to the slave hard disk
[15:42] <llutz> mikemol: whyever preferrable ssh-copy-id fails with BluesKaj
[15:42] <BluesKaj> there's no pubkey file in ~/.ssh there are 2annd pub keyfiles , rsa and dsa
[15:43] <BluesKaj> oops ignore annd
[15:43] <galamar> ikonia, its to big for a cd and I don't have/my computer won't burn dvds.
[15:43] <mikemol> BluesKaj: Have you run ssh-keygen on the machine you want to connect from?
[15:43] <xxghostxx> within .screenrc i put screen -t windowname 2 cd /home/folder/folder/.  when i execute screen it opens up all my other screen windows, but for the one with cd it says cannot exec cd: no such file or directory
[15:44] <wh1zz0> I saw a tutorial here... http://bigbrovar.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/how-to-share-your-internet-connection-on-ubuntu/ But this one talks about a scenario where the serving computer is connected via wireless
[15:44] <ikonia> galamar: download the CD
[15:44] <ikonia> galamar: instead of the DVD
[15:44] <mikemol> xxghostxx: I'd venture a guess that 'cd' is a shell command, and you're not running a shell.
[15:44] <Danny__> anyone know why upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 would lock up around 44% left to install on a Dell netbook? google isn't forthcoming.
[15:44] <xxghostxx> mikemol: doesn't screen execute linux commands upon connect if you've configured them in .screenrc?
[15:45] <Eitan> hey guys, anybody ever installed citrix xenapp in ubuntu 64bit os?
[15:45] <xxghostxx> because i have screen -t top 0 top and when screen starts it starts top in that window
[15:45] <roasted> Is there no way to sync a playlist to clementine right now?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> mikemol, yes ..justrying to setup pw-less login , that's all ..ssh works fine otherwise
[15:45] <mikemol> xxghostxx: Sure, but if 'cd' isn't an actual binary, it needs to be captured by the shell. What you're used to in terms of 'linux commands' is probably a shell command.
[15:45]  * mikemol goes back to work
[15:45] <galamar> ikonia, ok but I was trying to avoid that since I have slow internet.
[15:45] <ikonia> galamar: it will be easier than bootstrapping, I assure you
[15:46] <cl0udy> I can only see 8 of 24 cpu cores in ubuntu 10.04.2, what can be the problem? :(
[15:46] <sanzo> Danny, Does the checksum check on the installation on the upgrade?
[15:47] <xxghostxx> okay, can someone pick up where mikemol left off?  so there is no way to have screen execute a cd command?
[15:47] <galamar> ikonia, can I use any kinda VM to install to a real hdd instead of a filesystem image thing?
[15:47] <Danny__> sanzo: I should check that out, probably. I'm going through Update Managed, so I never expected it to be an issue. (Although, this has happened more than once at the same spot, so I'm tempted to rule out file copy error.)
[15:47] <llutz> BluesKaj: as user use these commands to copy your keyfile, just change "usr@host" to your setup:  "scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@host:~/pubkey " then ssh into remote host, and "cat ~/pubkey >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && rm ~/pubkey"
[15:48] <Danny__> Update Manager*
[15:48] <llutz> BluesKaj: or read this to get ssh-copy-id working, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2008/11/3-steps-to-perform-ssh-login-without-password-using-ssh-keygen-ssh-copy-id/
[15:48] <ron34563654> hi, what is the command that can allows t know the pci wireless card model?
[15:48] <llutz> BluesKaj: important part is the "Using ssh-copy-id along with the ssh-add/ssh-agent" in that article
[15:48] <BluesKaj> llutz, yes user@host is an example , I'm aware :)
[15:49] <Dulak> galamar: there is a small net install iso that you can download to get the install started but it will download packages so the install might take longer because of your internet.
[15:49] <llutz> BluesKaj: fine, 1st step taken :)
[15:49] <cl0udy> I can only see 8 of 24 cpu cores in ubuntu 10.04.2, what can be the problem? :(
[15:50] <roasted> Is there no way to sync a playlist to clementine right now?
[15:50] <ron34563654> hi, what is the command that can allows t know the pci wireless card model?
[15:51] <galamar> ikonia, nevermind I have the same iso on my uncles laptop which can burn dvd and I have a dvd-rw that I'll scrub. thanks for the help though.
[15:52] <fishscene> ron34563654: "lspci"?
[15:52] <wabznasm> ron34563654: lspci -v will get you all peripherals
[15:52] <sipior> cl0udy: what's the output of the following: grep CONFIG_NR_CPUS /boot/config-`uname -r`
[15:52] <BluesKaj> llutz, permission denied cat ~/pubkey >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys && rm ~/pubkey , on remote host ..sudo didn't do it either
[15:53] <ron34563654> wabznasm, fishscene  let me try
[15:54] <llutz> BluesKaj: don't use sudo, issue all commands as "user". check permissions of ~/.ssh/* on remote host
[15:54] <ph3arret> hey all I have a toshiba laptop with realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller and when I updated to natty, noy I am told it is disabled, and ideas?
[15:54] <abrown_> Update 11.04 this morning -- now won't boot??
[15:54] <ron34563654> listen
[15:55] <ron34563654> when i startup ubuntu the login sound often repets itself. what can i do?
[15:55] <Tigerboy> just went into the compiz editor (CCSM) and tried to get the spinning block effect with four sides of the cube and it didn't work no matter what I did. Now I only have one desktop and when I rebooted this morning up came Unity even though I had classic selected. I had to go back with classic--no effects then uncheck most things in CCSM in order to get back to gnome(classic) with effects.  Is compiz borked in 11.04?
[15:55] <abrown_> Updated 11.04 this morning -- now won't boot -- any ideas??
[15:55] <wabznasm> ron34563654: disable login sound? Sorry - no idea on that one
[15:55] <llutz> BluesKaj:  ~/.ssh should be "700 (drwx------) you you", ~/.ssh/authorized_keys "600 (-rw-------) you you"
[15:55] <cl0udy> sipior: oh :) it says 8 :)
[15:56] <BluesKaj> llutz, authorized_keys ownership is root should i chage it to myusername
[15:56] <llutz> BluesKaj: HOW did you create your keyfiles? with sudo? don't do that
[15:56] <abrown_> Updated 11.04 this morning -- now won't boot -- any ideas??
[15:56] <llutz> BluesKaj: best to create a new key as user
[15:56] <cl0udy> sipior: is'nt 64 default?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> llutz, really , no sudo for secure login , starnge
[15:57] <BluesKaj> strange
[15:58] <abrown_> Updated 11.04 this morning -- now won't boot -- any ideas??
[15:58] <sipior> cl0udy: do you have the server kernel installed?
[15:58] <llutz> BluesKaj: ssh user@host, then use "sudo or su". you don't want ssh-login as root
[15:59] <sipior> cl0udy: or just roll your own kernel.
[15:59] <llutz> BluesKaj: so delete the "root keys", create new ones as user, copy them using "ssh-copy-id"
[15:59] <cl0udy> sipior: yepp, will do that. Thanks alot
[15:59] <sipior> cl0udy: have fun
[15:59] <BluesKaj> llutz, no I meant when ssh setup was run
[15:59] <abrown_> Updated 11.04 this morning -- now won't boot -- any ideas??
[16:00] <onca> ok, I'm gnu to this, how do I get rc.local to execute at boot?
[16:00] <onca> I can't find the inittab file
[16:00] <llutz> !runlevel | onca
[16:00] <ron34563654> can anyone tell me if my wireless card supported on linux? http://paste.ubuntu.com/643348/
[16:00] <onca> llutz, at boot
[16:00] <onca> it's not getting run
[16:00] <llutz> onca: it should be run by default
[16:00] <Dulak> abrown_: where does it error?  what is the error, did you try an older kernel at the grub boot prompt?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> llutz, no i don't login ssh as root
[16:01] <nomadd> I want to reinstall my OS, but I don't have a wired connection available and I need to have internet. How do I get my wifi drivers w/o using Jockey? Can I get them so I can install them manually once I reinstall my OS?
[16:01] <FLeiXiuS> Where does Ubuntu save the current interface information regarding which MAC is registered to which internal eth device.  Im looking for the conf file, not ifconfig.
[16:01] <abrown_> dulak:  Boot gets to red-dots and hangs.   No disk activity!
[16:01] <din> i am looking for an apache-2.2.19 .deb to install on lucid. anyone have a clue where to find one?
[16:01] <Dulak> abrown_: did you try an older kernel from the list?
[16:01] <abrown_> dulak: No grub boot prompt!
[16:01] <faz_> i'm having a problem in ubuntu11 where, when i select a new theme with system->prefs->appearances, the theme affects the 'appearance preferences' window that pops up but no other windows on my desktop. the theme also affects the title bar of everything but nothign else.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> llutz, delete the root keys on both machines ?
[16:01] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:02] <abrown_> Dulak:   No grub prompt - is there a keycode to interrupt boot?
[16:02] <llutz> BluesKaj: yes
[16:02] <BluesKaj> llutz, ok
[16:02] <Dulak> FLeiXiuS: If you mean where would you set a new mac address for a nic, in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:02] <Tigerboy> Should I just go to Ubuntu 10.10 for a functioning compiz?
[16:02] <Dulak> abrown_: hold down left shift I think, right as it's booting
[16:02] <FLeiXiuS> Dulak, I mean where is the conf file that specifies what my interfaces are labeled as
[16:03] <ron34563654> can anyone tell me if my wireless card supported on linux? http://paste.ubuntu.com/643348/
[16:03] <Dulak> FLeiXiuS: /etc/network/interfaces is the config file for all settings that aren't handled by network manager
[16:03] <aristidesfl> I've got a .sh at startup which executes: screen -dmS SessionName etc. But when I try to reattach screen says there are no available sessions. Ideas?
[16:03] <ron34563654> how can i set my mic to sounds stronger? it's barely heard
[16:04] <FLeiXiuS> Dulak, I understand the use of /etc/network/interfaces...however thats not even what I'm referrencing.
[16:04] <FLeiXiuS> Some where in either udev/hotplug its registering my devices as eth0 eth1 etc...etc..
[16:04] <abrown_> Dulak:  Well, that's good to know.   Booting recovery kernel, I get to "Recovery menu" and can get to root prompt.
[16:04] <onca> how do I figure out /dev/sda3's uuid?
[16:04] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:04] <llutz> sudo blkid onca
[16:04] <onca> thanks
[16:04] <Dulak> abrown_: try an older non-recovery choice
[16:05] <galamar> what is the best way to backup all of my installed packages, or would that be pointless since im changing from i686 to 86_64?
[16:05] <Dulak> galamar: pointless, every package is a different binary and has to be replaced
[16:05] <galamar> Dulak, I would still like to make a list though for easy reference anyway to do that?
[16:06] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: I have found very few problems with wireless adapters in Linux... even in the worst case you can use wrappers to make use of the Windows driver.  for the past several years they all tend to work out of box.
[16:06] <aristidesfl> I've got a .sh at startup which executes: screen -dmS SessionName etc. But when I try to reattach screen says there are no available sessions. Ideas?
[16:06] <llutz> !clone | galamar see this, helps to install all the stuff you had before. backup /etc/ and /home
[16:06] <rumpe1> galamar, well ... packages with "*all.deb" could work on 64 i guess
[16:07] <truflip> anyone out there?
[16:07] <aristidesfl> no
[16:07] <Dulak> galamar: dpkg -l | awk '{print $2}' > installed_packages.txt
[16:07] <BluesKaj> llutz, ok do you mean all keys, authorized, rsa,dsa etc ?
[16:07] <Tigerboy> can someone come to my house and carefully reinstall Ubuntu 10.10-- porting over everything from the 11.04 install.
[16:08] <ron34563654> Tigerboy, but i can't connect to the internet. why?
[16:08] <llutz> BluesKaj: all keys NOT belonging to you "user"
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Tigerboy, good luck with that
[16:08] <pmackinney> I'm looking for a way to force users to reset their passwords. This is a 10-seat Ubuntu workstation environment, authentication via NIS/YP. Any tips welcome.
[16:08] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: can you tell me a little more-- what distro etc
[16:09] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:09] <Tigerboy> Blueskaj: I thought it was a great idea... don't ruin it.
[16:09] <ron34563654> Tigerboy, ubuntu. the latest
[16:11] <ron34563654> computers are so complicated
[16:11] <BluesKaj> BBL ...need to take a break
[16:11] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:12] <galamar> Dulak, okay thanks now when I reinstall can I just "apt install 'paste text file' "
[16:12] <duvel> Hi. I have an XBOX 360 and PC hooked up into an HDMI switch so that I can use both pc and xbox on 1 monitor. For some really, really weird reason, whenever I switch to the xbox for more than 30 seconds, and back to the PC, UBUNTU locks up completely. I cant move my mouse, can't type, cant do anything besides press the button on my case to restart the computer. Any idea why this is happening? Thank you so much in advance.
[16:12] <Dulak> galamar: 'apt-get install < installed_packages.txt' works iirc
[16:12] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: click the network icon on the task bar and select one of the ones available... make sure it is set up as auto... sometimes I have found that typing in a fixed IP which must be available on your subnet... the gateway(the same ip used to get your router settings page up) and even typing in the DNS ( you can use googles public dns) can help because sometimes the router's DHCP is not so great. With wireless the problem ca
[16:12] <dell> http://releases.ubuntu.com//natty/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso not working. I tried all day
[16:13] <abrown_> Dulak:  Kernel was 2.6.38-10.  Booting 2.6.38-8 via "previous versions" -- same hang result.  I looked at /var/log/dmesg during recovery single-user boot and saw what looked like a video firmware problem.   Failsafe graphic mode also fails.
[16:13] <nomadd> I want to reinstall my OS, but I don't have a wired connection available and I need to have internet. How do I get my wifi drivers w/o using Jockey? Can I get them so I can install them manually once I reinstall my OS?
[16:13] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: but best to try to make it work with auto settings
[16:13] <galamar> Dulak, okay sweet thank you.
[16:14] <abrown_> Dulak:  This laptop (Dell D820) needed an Nvidia driver -- that's a likely culprit.
[16:14] <Dulak> abrown_: mmm, that sounds like hardware, though you updated today, when was the last reboot before that?
[16:14] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: for security on your router always use wpa2(personal) with AES encryption---
[16:14] <truflip> anyone know how i can install bcm4315 the right way? cuz i've been following instructions and leading me to dead ends. its unsupported btw, so i think i have to use ndiswrapper
[16:14] <abrown_> Dulak:  reboot was fine until the update.
[16:14] <Dulak> abrown_: the older kernel should have worked if that was the case, it would be using the old working driver
[16:15] <abrown_> Dulak:  How far has it gotten in loading kernel at the red-dot stage?
[16:15] <ron34563654> Tigerboy, i don't understand you well enoght. i don't know how to make the internet work. i just want to visit some sites ;)
[16:15] <Dulak> abrown_: the driver for nvidia gets compiled against the current kernel headers, look at what versions of linux-image and linux-headers you have installed
[16:16] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: also if it is your notebook make sure you have the wireless turned on(usually a switch on the very front)
[16:16] <duvel> Hi. I have an XBOX 360 and PC hooked up into an HDMI switch so that I can use both pc and xbox on 1 monitor. For some really, really weird reason, whenever I switch to the xbox for more than 30 seconds, and back to the PC, UBUNTU locks up completely. I cant move my mouse, can't type, cant do anything besides press the button on my case to restart the computer. Any idea why this is happening? Thank you so much in advance.
[16:16] <Dulak> abrown_: the red dots are the splash, which should be right after the cpu and basic bus have been detected, but I'm not 100% on that
[16:16] <enav> some one here know a web site to show your webcam video
[16:18] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:18] <abrown_> Dulak:   A lot of headers in /usr/include/linux were updated this morning.   The dots arent showing any action, so it's probably early in the hw detection -- the Nvidia detection must be bad.
[16:18] <szal> abrown_: kernel 2.6.38-10 is from natty-proposed, and unless they also have precompiled nVidia driver binaries for it, you need to install the nVidia driver for that kernel 'the hard way', if I'm not mistaken
[16:19] <Dulak> abrown_: at the grub menu you can hit the 'e' key to edit the boot line, delete 'quiet' and 'splash' from the line then hit ctrl-x to boot it without the splash
[16:19] <Dulak> abrown_: you'll see exactly where in the sequence it is hanging
[16:19] <ron34563654> Tigerboy, it isn't. it's a desktop pc
[16:20] <Bitbytex> hay guys, any one know if ubuntu will run fully on macbook pro 8,3
[16:20] <truflip> firmware-b43-installer HELP!!
[16:20] <ron34563654> hell, why my internet never worked?
[16:20] <szal> Dulak: I wouldn't be too sure about that..  for some reason I wasn't able to figure out yet, on my 2 Natty installs the blue background from the Grub will only give way to the terminal messages a second or two before X starts
[16:21] <Dulak> szal: yet another reason 10.04 is my last ubuntu.... good to know
[16:21] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: Ok well make sure it is close enough to the router too.  I would go into the network icon and check what is going on with the settings.
[16:21] <szal> !help | truflip
[16:21] <aristidesfl> How can I create a startup script that is ran by a user instead of root?
[16:22] <onca> rc.local is certainly not started at boot
[16:22] <rumpe1> aristidesfl, sudo -u username script
[16:22] <onca> what runlevel is it supposed to?
[16:22] <tomodachi> aristidesfl: well you could always su to that user to run it?
[16:22] <Dulak> aristidesfl: securely doing that is a real bitch.  You can do a quick hack by setting the script suid (chmod u+s filename) and it will run as root but it opens a big fat hole where the user(s) can do things as root if they try hard enough.
[16:23] <truflip> error: firmware-b43-installer
[16:23] <onca> how do I add scripts to runlevels without inittab?
[16:23] <dyd> how can i search for "ServerAdmin" string in all files? grep ServerAdmin what?
[16:23] <abrown_> Dulak:  hal-disable-polling aborted on a wlan0 power management operation!?  After that, ALSA midi emulation ... ?!  Sounds like bad trouble in the kernel.
[16:23] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:23] <Dulak> aristidesfl: umm I think I misunderstood the problem, ignore what I said
[16:23] <tomodachi> dyd: grep ServerAdmin *
[16:23] <tomodachi> would search all files for that expression
[16:23] <szal> truflip: full sentences please
[16:23] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: with that wireless you may want to make sure you have wpa_supplicant installed... use package manager to search
[16:24] <Dulak> abrown_: see if it's the same on the older version I guess, but really both kernels doing the same thing will point to hardware usually
[16:24] <ron34563654> Tigerboy, do you have other clues for what might make the internet not to work?
[16:24] <aristidesfl> Dulak: so what rumpe1 suggested is not unsafe?
[16:24] <dyd> tomodachi: doesn't work, but grep ServerAdmin -r / seems to work!
[16:24] <tomodachi> -r is recurisive
[16:24] <tomodachi>  / declares that you should start from the root
[16:24] <blinkyb> hi. I can't see the Sound control on the taskbar! i can't adjust sound :/
[16:25] <Dulak> aristidesfl: it's safe for an admin user, but if you want say a script that runs as root everytime someone logs in, you gotta go the insecure suid way.
[16:25] <aristidesfl> d
[16:25] <truflip> when i try to use 'sudo apt-get install ndisgtk' it gives me an error saying "Errors were encountered while processing: firmware-b43-installer" E: Sub-pprocess/usr/bin/dpkg returned an error
[16:25] <truflip> how do you do that **NAME**: thing?
[16:26] <dyd> tomodachi: why i see a long list of files with "No such file or directory" ?
[16:26] <szal> !tab | truflip
[16:26] <truflip> szal, hi
[16:27] <Tigerboy> ron34563654:  you need to get the router set up properly ... then use wpasupplicant and wireless tools to get the wireless working--- ALTERNATIVELY-- go out and get a new WIFI usb that you can plug in at Staples-- ask to make sure it supports linux but 99 percent will of the new ones. Your wireless is old.
[16:27] <truflip> sz__, hi
[16:27] <truflip> does it work?
[16:27] <truflip> szal, hi
[16:27] <szal> truflip: either there is more in the error message, or that's an example of a not exactly helpful one
[16:27] <Spudnut> Just wondering what do i do if when updating packages using synaptic it comes back saying it cant update due to badsig 16126D3A3E5C1192?
[16:28] <Tigerboy> ron34563654:  if you get a new wireless you can also check into combo packs with a wirelessusb included with a new router... make sure it supports "N"
[16:28] <truflip> szal, no its all the error. just those 2.
[16:28] <Tigerboy> ron34563654:  by going the route of getting a new wireless you should be plug and play.
[16:28] <wabznasm> awesome wm debian menu
[16:29] <wabznasm> bum
[16:29] <Pici> wabznasm: Are you asking a question?
[16:32] <mikemol> sipior: Activity on that bug. Marked 'invalid', though I'm disputing that. Not certain if/how to elevate an issue like that. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/809918?comments=all
[16:33] <blinkyb> hi. I can't see the Sound control on the taskbar! i can't adjust sound :/
[16:33] <Plugh> How can I save my session so it appears they way I set it up on the next boot? gnome-session-save didn't work. I have to start a terminal session, add tabs and change its size, run "pulseaudio-D", then start two other programs on every boot since moving to 11.04 from 9.10.
[16:35] <Spudnut> What do you do if synaptic cannot update due to a "badsig" from ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[16:36] <ron34563654> how can i make my wireless card work? it doesn't shows the list of wifi nets
[16:36] <sipior> mikemol: well, that's fair. they may feel that using the file in /etc may encourage folks to modify it directly, rather than through gconf-editor. still having the file in two places is daft. perhaps an issue of backward compatibility? (also, the gnome tendency away from simply-editable config files is regrettable, but that's a digression for another channel...)
[16:38] <phax> Can the latest version of gcc and its source be installed by adding another package source, I am using 10.0.4 distro
[16:38] <ppp> what is exactly the chipset and wifi card ? it's not explained very well.. :/
[16:38] <Tigerboy> ron34563654:  if you got to staples get Netgear N300 gigabit router-- or cisco but don't bother with Belkin(junk) the N300 (model WNR3500L) is actually a mini- Linux box-- you can even add your own firmware.. Or even better is the buffalo routers which are available on the internet.
[16:38] <Spudnut> What do you do if synaptic cannot update due to a "badsig" from ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[16:38] <tafkaz> hi all. i have an odd problem with my hauppauge tv remote, since i updated to ubuntu 11.04. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/783107?comments=all is pretty much the problem
[16:39] <ppp> what is exactly the chipset and wifi card ? it's not explained very well.. :/
[16:39] <blinkyb> hi. I can't see the Sound control on the taskbar! i can't adjust sound :/
[16:40] <ppp> what is exactly the chipset and wifi card (in brief) ? it's not explained very well.. :/
[16:40] <tafkaz> after todays kernel updates i see, that the remote will show action on the cli when lircd is NOT running
[16:40] <abrown_> Dulak:  WLAN switch was off, but no change.  Oldest kernel is 2.6.31-14, same hang; booting with no "quiet splash" boots to blank screen, no dmesg.  Ubu 11 install disk, Knoppix 6.2 disk, boots, runs the video OK (so far as I can tell).  Not a hardware problem, but a driver/kernel problem.   I'm going to back up /home and reinstall, I think.
[16:40] <tafkaz> as soon as i start lircd the input wont show anything while i press on the remotes buttons
[16:40] <tafkaz> this is strange
[16:41] <tafkaz> can you help maybe?
[16:41] <onetwothreefour> hi .. i have setup a vpn connection and for testing purpose the same connection on a VM wiendows 7.its openvpn and the network on the VM works as desired.i get connected receive ip and all other like gateway aso.the connection establishes and works fine..when i do the same on my linux system (where the vm is running) it connects gets relevant ip gateway aso informations but no connection in general is possible..i have teste
[16:41] <onetwothreefour> d to disable firewall still no success..i have compare the routing tables between both machines and its the same..what could cause this behaviour?could it be related to MTU settings?what either could i check?any tips and help is greatly welcome
[16:41] <abrown_> Dulak:  Thanks for your time and help!   Do you also play exhibition chess for fun?
[16:41] <louislang> Is there anyway to turn on autologin for an account over ssh? I need to use vnc to access the desktop, but can't get tightvnc/x11vnc/vncserver to work as the user isn't logged in.
[16:42] <truflip> i'm trying to install aircrack-ng but i'm getting frimware-b43-installer error
[16:42] <dyd> sorry i can't understand: i want to install mono to make asp pages work on ubuntu, what does this page mean? http://mono-project.com/DistroPackages/Ubuntu
[16:43] <onetwothreefour> an addition: the vm is set to bridged network settings
[16:43] <Spudnut> What do you do if synaptic cannot update due to a "badsig" from ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[16:44] <tafkaz> if the remote works without lircd (which sounds really spooky to me) then where do i have to map the keys
[16:45] <tafkaz> hm...seems the remote is just being handled as a keyboard
[16:46] <tafkaz> so maybe lircd cant take over the remote, because something allready uses it?
[16:46] <tafkaz> x perhaps?
[16:46] <onetwothreefour> someone with vpn experience?
[16:47] <blinkyb> I need help here, the volume control disappeared from the taskbar! I still can play music but can't adjust the volume.
[16:47] <Spudnut> What do you do if synaptic cannot update due to a "badsig" from ftpmaster@ubuntu.com
[16:48] <onetwothreefour> @blinkyb is the notification area still there ?
[16:48] <blinkyb> onetwothreefour, no.
[16:49] <onetwothreefour> do a right click on the bar choose add to bar search notification and add
[16:49] <onetwothreefour> @blinkyb
[16:50] <blinkyb> onetwothreefour, when I right-click, there is only "Add to Panel", which Volume is not listed in the given options.
[16:50] <amitprakash> Hi.. can someone tell me how I can install bugzilla on my ubuntu server and allow it to run on port 800
[16:50] <amitprakash> 8000*
[16:50] <onetwothreefour> blinky its called notification i think
[16:51] <Tigerboy> ron34563654: check the window I opened with you for links you can go to.
[16:51] <onetwothreefour> @blinky i have non english ui do i cannot tell you directly
[16:51] <qin> !tab | onetwothreefour
[16:51] <lsv> blinkyb: the volume is part of the "Indicator Applet"
[16:52] <onetwothreefour> yes qin i know sry
[16:52] <Bauer> How do I apply on the fly memory modification to a VM running Debian, like these distributions here? http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1012764
[16:52] <Bauer> I have a debian machine to which I modified the amount of RAM, but the guest (debian) doesnt see the changes yet
[16:52] <blinkyb> lsv: I added that, the volume is still not there
[16:52] <Bauer> or Ubuntu, in this case.. same question really
[16:52] <Pici> Bauer: Try #debian , not #ubuntu
[16:53] <lsv> hmmm....
[16:53] <Bauer> Pici same question for Ubuntu :) I want to get one distro I know to work with vmware hot-swap memory, cpu functionality
[16:53] <lsv> blinkyb:  and you have sound?
[16:53] <Bauer> besides the fact ubuntu is largely debian based
[16:53] <onetwothreefour> blinkyb, is the little monitor and message icon visible?
[16:53] <Pici> Bauer: ah, okay.  (I can't help you with that though)
[16:54] <IdleOne> Spudnut: look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1425221.html
[16:54] <blinkyb> lsv, yes. I removed Pulseaudio app and since that removed it disappeared!
[16:54] <blinkyb> onetwothreefour, no. that's what am trying to bring back!
[16:55] <unown_the_second> hello, how can I turn initrd.cpio.gz into initrd.gz
[16:55] <onetwothreefour> blinky check one of these should be the right one..indicator applet or notificaten are.so the other icons should appear at least
[16:55] <unown_the_second> ?
[16:55] <lsv> blinkyb: why did you removed the pulseaudio thing?
[16:56] <blinkyb> lsv, browsing on my pc has became extremely slow, once i listed 'top
[16:56] <blinkyb> lsv, browsing on my pc has became extremely slow, once i listed 'top' apps in terminal, pulseaudio was taking lots of %
[16:57] <tafkaz> noone here can help with this odd hauppauge remote problem?
[16:57] <nerdshell> how to boot into terminal ?
[16:57] <IdleOne> !nox
[16:57] <apodo> alguien habla español?
[16:57] <lsv> blinkyb: ok.  still looking..
[16:57] <Pici> !es | apodo
[16:57] <IdleOne> !es | apodo
[16:58] <lamnk> anyone know a good irssi theme ?
[16:58] <zulu34sx> Ich brauche Hilfe bei einem kubuntu 11.04-Soundproblem... Habe Rückkoppelungen, höre mich selbst.
[16:58] <zulu34sx> Kann mir bittebitte jemand helfen?
[16:59] <tafkaz> lircd(devinput) ready, using /var/run/lirc/lircd
[16:59] <Pici> !de | zulu34sx
[16:59] <IdleOne> lamnk: irssi.org
[16:59] <tafkaz>  accepted new client on /var/run/lirc/lircd
[16:59] <tafkaz> initializing '/dev/input/irremote'
[16:59] <lsv> blinkyb: according to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1754285 you need the package indicator-sound
[16:59] <tafkaz> but nothing in irw
[16:59] <lamnk> IdleOne: it looks like a matrix to me
[16:59] <lamnk> IdleOne: tried some themes
[17:00] <amjad> i would like to install yahoo messenger in ubuntu
[17:00] <lamnk> IdleOne: all low quality
[17:00] <IdleOne> lamnk: perhaps #irssi can point you to something. irssi themes are not on topic for Ubuntu support.
[17:00] <lamnk> IdleOne: ok i'll switch, thanks
[17:00] <blinkyb> lsv, lemme try installing that
[17:01] <GregAce> hi
[17:02] <lsv> hi GregAce
[17:02] <phiberoptik> french salon ?
[17:03] <IdleOne> !fr
[17:03] <phiberoptik> ok, thank you
[17:03] <IdleOne> de rien phiberoptik
[17:04] <GregAce> bonjour
[17:04] <skilz> how can I tell if someones portscanning me or trying to hack me?
[17:04] <nerdshell> phiberoptik: send me a message, I speak french
[17:04] <skilz> is there some console program I can run that warns me when im scanned ect
[17:04] <BluesKaj> ok llutz ..pw-less ssh is working , thanks for the help :)
[17:05] <IdleOne> nerdshell: better to join #ubuntu-fr and try to help them in the channel there
[17:07] <dipiwee> hello, no one is replying in #ubuntuforums after about 3 hours.. so i'd be better off asking it here
[17:07] <dipiwee> im looking for the name of a mod on the forums
[17:07] <dipiwee> s/name/nick
[17:07] <skegeek> Can anyone provide the basic 'key points' generally needed for system/server management? I mean such as the best set of (newbie friendly/basic) tools for a secure and efficient system, and the best practice for maintaining some sort of journal for activity/changes made.
[17:08] <dipiwee> or the nick of a mod present in the room maybe
[17:09] <blinkyb> lsv, problem solved.
[17:10] <blinkyb> lsv, thanks.. what about browsing? i disabled accelerated flash display, still browsing it extremely slow.
[17:10] <BluesKaj> skegeek, for ubuntu-server ?
[17:10] <lsv> blinkyb: :D how did you solve the problem?
[17:10] <blinkyb> lsv, i installed pulseaudio and indicator-sound, magic happened.
[17:11] <Trond--> Is there a Latex program for Ubuntu that doesn't take hundreds of MBs?
[17:11] <lolmatic> yes
[17:11] <lolmatic> notepad.exe
[17:11] <Calinou> lolmatic: +10000
[17:11] <Calinou> lol
[17:12] <Trond--> lolmatic, I need it so I can copy the latex to mathbin.net
[17:12] <lolmatic> cat latexfile | pastebinit
[17:12] <lolmatic> :)
[17:12] <lsv> blinkyb: oh ok.  I'm kind of new, so I don't really know a lot.
[17:13] <dipiwee> really? anyone?
[17:13] <lsv> dipiwee: have you tried /help
[17:15] <dipiwee> lsv: nothing to do with my q' :p
[17:15] <uuser123> if i want to remove all network related setting and cleanup all footprint and want to start fresh network setting  what i should do
[17:15] <lsv> dipiwee: oh sorry.
[17:18] <ppp> How do i determine my wifi card chipset ? I found some stuff on google but i just don't get it.
[17:18] <ppp> ty
[17:19] <roasted> Does anyone know if Listen supports ipods?
[17:19] <Python> ppp: lspci -nn
[17:19] <visor2580> Hi all! Is this a russian channel?
[17:19] <Python> !rs | visor2580
[17:19] <delx> Hello
[17:19] <Pici> !ru | visor2580
[17:20] <Python> sorry
[17:20] <kkulhavy> Hi all! Is this a thai channel?
[17:20] <Python> Hi delx
[17:21] <Python> kkulhavy: no
[17:21] <delx> I have a symlink to my current software version "update-1.0". Now the symlinkchanges to "update-1.1". What happens with the http processes that were currently reading the old "update-1.0" ?
[17:21] <Python> !th kkulhavy
[17:21] <Python> !th | kkulhavy
[17:21] <selvakumaran>  Hey All., i wish to add a change in UI of Update mgr., can i code for that..?
[17:22] <kkulhavy> Python, nice! There is support for so many languages!
[17:23] <ppp> Python, which one gives details on my wifi card ? there is Network Controller, Ethernet Controller, Ethernet Adaptater, and the whole rest of list, and i don't have any idea which I need :p
[17:23] <selvakumaran> kkulhavy: posted for5 me huh.?
[17:23]  * dipiwee seeks the name of a mod of the ubuntu forum
[17:23] <ikonia> dipiwee: check #ubuntuforums
[17:23] <dipiwee> ikonia: i did.. i got no reply after asking 3 times in 4 hours :p
[17:24] <ikonia> dipiwee: someone responsed 6 minutes after you last asked
[17:24] <ikonia> dipiwee: we don't look after the forums, so if you don't get a response in #ubuntuforums, it's best emailing the forum moderators
[17:25] <dipiwee> ikonia: http://pastie.org/2208260
[17:26] <dipiwee> ikonia: it's exactly what im looking for.. the nick or email of a forum moderator..
[17:26] <ikonia> dipiwee: I don't need to see a post - I've told you the best place to ask
[17:26] <Escherial> hello :) is there any way to stop eclipse from displaying its tooltips in the "dead" section below my monitor?
[17:27] <BluesKaj> ppp, look for wireless mobile adapter or something similar
[17:27] <Python> Escherial: try #eclipse
[17:27] <Escherial> (i'm using a dual monitor setup where my primary's height is smaller than my secondary, thus there's this rectangular "dead area" underneath my primary)
[17:27] <ppp> mmh i'm browsing some stuff on google atm
[17:27] <roasted> Does anyone know if Listen supports the ability to sync playlists?
[17:27] <Python> ppp: pastebin the output please
[17:27] <Escherial> it happens most noticeably in eclipse, but i figured it was a window manager issue
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: could try in Ubuntu classic to test
[17:28] <ppp> Python hold on, in 5 minutes, i'll see what i can do now
[17:28] <ppp> ty
[17:28] <yuler> Metacity is more responsive than Compiz on my system (10.10 + updates, Nvidia 6200.  If I ditch Compiz for Metacity, I have to figure out why window overlays in Firefox are not drawing completely.  Any ideas?
[17:28] <Escherial> ActionParsnip: that's not a bad idea :)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Yuler: if you reduce compiz plugins it will be more responsive
[17:32] <dominick> !hi
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> How is metacity pronounced? Is it me-tasity, meta-city, meat-a-city?
[17:33] <Escherial> i would imagine meta-city
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Meter-city
[17:34] <yuler> Switching to Compiz sometimes fails to load window decorations, so I switch to Metacity with the "Compiz Fusion Icon"
[17:34] <Escherial> this is unrelated to anything, but hibernate doesn't seem to do anything on my machine :\
[17:35] <Escherial> i'd like to hibernate ubuntu so that i can switch to windows without losing all the stuff i have open
[17:35] <ppp2> http://pastebin.com/yXRNqDVt
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: thats what I thought, just checking though, I'm English and Americans have different enunciation ;-)
[17:36] <Escherial> ppp2: i don't believe so; that looks like a wired ethernet adapter
[17:36] <Escherial> unless there's some wireless gigabit standard of which i'm unaware @_@
[17:36] <Python> ppp2: no it's the ethernet card
[17:36] <ppp> Ag, ethernet = wired
[17:36] <ppp> ah$
[17:36] <Sozana> hi
[17:36] <ppp> hi
[17:36] <ppp> Soo, what kind of stuff do i need to look at for the wifi card ?
[17:37] <Python> ppp: paste the lspci -nn output please
[17:37] <Sozana> h r u?
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: there's a command to make the session be saved then log you out but it escapes me
[17:37] <ppp> ok
[17:37] <Python> ppp: pastebin*
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, Escherial , some would say metacity , accent on the met , others , accent on the a like metAcity , IMO , but I'm a Canajun so I have to be flexible :)
[17:38] <Sozana> ok
[17:38] <Escherial> testing hibernate, one moment
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Ppp: if you reboot and run:   dmesg | less    you will see the OS setting up including the wireless device. It may give clues
[17:39] <Python> !ot | BluesKaj, ActionParsnip, Escherial
[17:39] <Escherial> well, hibernate seems to just lock the screen @_@ not sure why that happens...er, and is discussing hibernate off topic?
[17:40] <skegeek> Any recommendable free ebooks for system/server/web administration?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> Python, bah , you an ot cop or something ?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: my pronunciation question is offtopic ;)
[17:41] <truflip> hello
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Hi truflip
[17:42] <A-C1> hello,all text disappeared in firefox and many other programs,when I open firefox I can't  see any text just pictures
[17:42] <Escherial> as for my monitor issue, i've resigned myself to putting a dozen extra newlines at the bottom of problematic files for now, which i have to remove once i've read the blessed tooltip
[17:42] <Sozana> hello
[17:43] <fishscene> o/
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> A-c1: does it happen as all users?
[17:44] <A-C1> I just use one user ActionParsnip
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> A-c1: make another to test
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> A-c1: i don't type that fast. I prer
[17:44] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, should I setup my other machine with dns masq or is regular net/iface static setting and resolv.conf  ok ? I'm a bit confused on that issue
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Pre-emptively typed it
[17:45] <A-C1> ActionParsnip what do you think the problem is?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: i put dnsmasq on all systems personally
[17:45] <Sozana> i need a room's name to get in please ?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> A-c1: if its the same then its application based, if its ok then its your settings
[17:46] <Sozana> huhu
[17:47] <Sozana> i need a room's name to get in please mr?‏
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Sozana: can you expand the question please
[17:47] <qin> !ot | Sozana
[17:48] <Sozana> sexy room gentel?
[17:48] <BluesKaj> ok ActionParsnip , what about nameserver in resolv.conf, is the normal IP ok like 192.168.x.x ?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: if you use dnsmasq the first will be 127.0.0.1 then whatever you desire. You will need to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf to tell the service to listen to localhost
[17:54] <wsandin> is there something i can do with dpkg to reset to the 'minimal' package database? my system and package database is completely bloated
[17:54] <ikonia> wsandin: just remove what you don't want
[17:57] <jere> test
[17:58] <Escherial> so, this adequately describes the problem i'm facing: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24412/
[17:58] <Escherial> none of you happen to know of a more recent solution, do you?
[17:58] <AlexDevilLX> что еще
[18:01] <th0r> !ru
[18:02] <dli> Escherial, true, when I disable one monitor, windows on it stay in dead zone :(
[18:03] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:04] <Escherial> i'll survive ;_;
[18:04] <Escherial> anyhow, logout/login time
[18:07] <LinSteveH> I have an HP dv6-2155dx laptop, with numeric keypad.  When I tried 11.4 in memory, the pad worked as expected, but I don't know how to configure it to work, now that I have installed in on the hard drive.  Any troubleshooting thoughts?
[18:08] <ChrisRJersey> usb mouse
[18:08] <ChrisRJersey> sorry pad
[18:08] <ChrisRJersey> usb pad
[18:08] <cipherboy_loc> @LinSteveH: have you checked for available drivers?
[18:09] <Phr3d13> trying to get a vt6410 pci ide card working on ubuntu 11.04
[18:09] <LinSteveH> @cipherboy_loc: Drivers?  I thought that it was a config thing.  Not sure about any KB drivers.
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: still no luck huh
[18:10] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, nope :-( upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 didn't do it
[18:10] <cipherboy_loc> Oh, sorry.
[18:10] <cipherboy_loc> Misread your message.
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: let me see what i can find
[18:11] <cipherboy_loc> How are you trying to configure it? VIA a xorg.conf, or via the gnome control center?
[18:11] <SolitonWave> I'm trying to figure how to use Pitivi
[18:12] <SolitonWave> I want to delete some frames at the beginning and at the end of a video clip
[18:12] <SolitonWave> help?
[18:12] <LinSteveH> @cipherbor_loc: via the keyboard preferences tool.  Is this wrong?
[18:12] <dli> SolitonWave, I think mencoder (from mplayer) can do it, but you may have to read the doc, or try a GUI for it
[18:13] <Phr3d13> SolitonWave, http://www.pitivi.org/manual/
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: seems to use the via92cxx driver
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-April/007257.html
[18:14] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, the module loaded currently for it is pata_via
[18:14]  * SolitonWave reads the manual
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: unload the module and load the one I mentioned. It may need compilation
[18:15] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, how would i do that?
[18:16] <LinSteveH> SolitonWave: I've used avidemux and kino to edit movies.
[18:16] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, modprobe via92cxx ?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: find the sourcecode. I'll keep searching. You would have been better finding one that works out of the box
[18:17] <disinpho> Hey, I installed ubuntu 11.04 alongside windows 7 and it worked great, but after a windows 7 reinstall the grub menu is gone and i cant seem to figure out how to get it back (the ubuntu and swap partitions are still there)
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: sure. It'll need sudo. Users cannot manipulate modules
[18:18] <Phr3d13> FATAL: Module via92cxx not found.
[18:18] <brainwave92> disinpho:tried grub update?
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> disinpho: boot to live cd and reinstate grub2
[18:19] <LinSteveH> disinpho: M$ is like that ... they take over the boot sector.  If you have a linux cdrom, you can grab it back.
[18:19] <brainwave92> LinSteveH, yes! i totally forgot...i had the same issue
[18:19] <TL1> i did that a couple of minutes
[18:19] <brainwave92> correct, reinstalling grub2 should help.
[18:19] <TL1> me too brainwave92
[18:20] <Lomex> my windows keeps crashing
[18:20] <brainwave92> LinSteveH, correction...we can 'grub it back'
[18:20] <disinpho> LinSteveH: i still have the ubuntu installer cd
[18:20] <Phr3d13> disinpho, http://ubuntunow.wordpress.com/2008/07/13/howto-reconfigure-broken-grub/
[18:20] <h00k> !windows | Lomex
[18:20] <LinSteveH> Lomex: Is this a linux/ubuntu kinda crash?
[18:20] <TL1> hey whom is trying to reinstall grub2
[18:21] <Lomex> just joking sorry
[18:21] <disinpho> Phr3d13: i dont know how to reach the terminal from the live cd tho, is there a trick ive missed?
[18:21] <TL1> follow the chroot
[18:21] <TL1> way
[18:21] <TL1> it is the best
[18:21] <TL1> my favorite
[18:21] <FloodBot1> TL1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <Phr3d13> disinpho, boot the live cd, select the try option, accessories, terminal
[18:22] <disinpho> Phr3d13: ah, thanks
[18:22] <Phr3d13> disinpho, lemme know if it works :-)
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/75935
[18:23] <LinSteveH> So, no joy on troubleshooting getting my keyboard numpad working?
[18:24] <disinpho> Phr3d13: will do, trying it now
[18:25] <abstrakt> does rsync work over ssh or am I still required to have an rsync daemon running on the remote machine that I connect to through an ssh tunnel? (or is there something else...)
[18:26] <A_C1> ActionParsnip,thank you for your help I solved the problem ,it was fonts problem
[18:26] <Pici> abstrakt: rsync works over ssh just fine.
[18:26] <ella> lisbeth86
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> abstrakt: yes. You can even install an ssh server on Windows to use it
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> A_c1: cool, a test user is always useful :-)
[18:27] <LinSteveH>  /quit
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: was it pricey?
[18:28] <A_C1> ActionParsnip,it was because I installed some new fonts ,I deleted them and it works now
[18:28] <Phr3d13> ActionParsnip, nope, but i don't have the cash to waste to buy a new one especially when there is nothing physically wrong with it
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Phr3d13: i cannot find a success story with it. You may be out of luck. I'd try fi
[18:30] <mainrain> i'm trying to use pulseaudio to play my audio over the network on my media center.  When i try and watch youtube videos they play fine with audio set to localhost, but once i switch pulseaudio to use the remote audio the videos pause/stutter alot, are there buffers i can adjust or something to make this work better?  machines are connected over gigabit lan
[18:30] <mainrain> half the time the audio plays and the video just sits on a single frame
[18:31] <dli> mainrain, is network busy? or cpu load high
[18:31] <xxghostxx> I have Ubuntu LTS server edition.  It is on a VPS that I rent from a hosting solutions company.  Am I able to install a GUI on it and access that server graphically using Remote Desktop?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Find source for the driver or you may need an option on the driver which is already loaded. You may also find clues in your bootup dmesg output
[18:31] <mainrain> dli: network not busy(pulseaudio and youtube are only things running)  cpu is at like 5% usage on both machines
[18:32] <disinpho> Phr3d13: sudo: grub: command not found
[18:32] <dli> mainrain, by direct LAN connection?
[18:32] <mainrain> dli: yup, through a gigabit switch
[18:33] <mainrain> dli: i can do 40MB/s or so transfering raw files between these machines
[18:33] <dli> mainrain, I can get reasonable speed over a 54Mbps wifi LAN
[18:33] <mainrain> dli: and i mean megabytes, not megabits
[18:33] <narcislinux> how can switch to other linux that's inatall on my pc from commandLine  when i'm in ubuntu ?
[18:33] <dli> mainrain, I know, I mean I get pulse working over a much slower network
[18:34] <LmtdAt> I just "sudo apt-get install eclipse" and I think I got the wrong version or something.   I wound up with 3.5.2 but I would rather Eclipse IDE for Java Developers.  What should I do?  Is there some way to patch it up?  How do I uninstall it if that's the right way?
[18:34] <mainrain> dli: it works for plain audio, like mp3's or sounds from my IM client.  The audio from the youtube videos also plays well, but the video itself stops updating and only the audio is playing
[18:35] <mainrain> dli: as soon as a swithc pulseaudio back to playing on localhost, the video part starts updating again
[18:35] <dli> mainrain, so, it's a player issue, I remember flash plugin had trouble with pulse
[18:35] <mainrain> its like the youtube player cant figure out the sync or something
[18:36] <dli> mainrain, for youtube, maybe, you can try another player, like lightspark or gnash, if any of them work, you know it's the plugin
[18:36] <mainrain> hmm, ok i'll try those, thanks
[18:36] <psyk0> lmtdat: What is your real prob ?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> !grub | disinpho
[18:37] <LmtdAt> psyk0, I want to Write Lilypond scores using Ubuntu.  I chose Eclipse as the IDE, and it has a plugin: Elysium which I wanted to install.  I don't know how to get Elysium installed into Eclipse using 3.5.x, so I would like to get 3.6.
[18:38] <tich> hey, i was here a while ago and someone suggested a gnome-panel app to put the computer into presentation mode (stops screensaver) --does anyone know the name of it?
[18:38] <Jordan_U> disinpho: The link Phr3d13 gave you is out of date, it gives instructions for grub legacy.
[18:39] <zimm3r> I am running Ubuntu 64 bit 11.04 in a vm with 1.5 gb ram and I don't have the unity interface (and I don't want it) is that what I will get if I install it as an os even though it will then have 3gb ram?
[18:39] <psyk0> LmtdAD: so, i think you just want eclipse (IDE) but 3.6 version ? If iy's Yes, i will study that now :)
[18:39] <LmtdAt> psyk0, What's an iy?
[18:40] <DexterF> hi
[18:40] <zimm3r> hi
[18:40] <LmtdAt> hi
[18:40] <bogdaniel> hello everyone
[18:40] <Jordan_U> tich: There is the classic inhibit applet for gnome-panel and there is kaffine for Unity.
[18:41] <DexterF> trying to install 10.10 on an amd athlon64 3000 system. dvd won't start, cd won't start. cd comes till ISOLINUX, then nothing, DVD crahes to busybox with "cant find a live fs"
[18:41] <Jordan_U> !classic | zimm3r
[18:41] <DexterF> the hell?
[18:41] <psyk0> LmtAD: sorry it's just a mistake, ("if IT's yes ...)
[18:41] <LmtdAt> psyk0, YES!  But I may have found a solution, so don't sweat.
[18:41] <tich> Jordan_U: ah, it was probably the inhibit applet... thanks
[18:41] <fud> hi
[18:41] <zimm3r> Jordan_U: ok thanks :-)
[18:41] <fud> there's a really ugly thing with latest ubuntu
[18:41] <fud> I followed the exact procedures to create a usb stick
[18:42] <fud> with windows
[18:42] <fud> reboot
[18:42] <fud> and I get
[18:42] <fud> could not find kernel image gfxboot
[18:42] <Jordan_U> zimm3r: The reason you aren't getting unity now is that unity requires 3D accelleration (unless you use unity2D).
[18:42] <zimm3r> Jordan_U: ah that is probably it
[18:43] <Jordan_U> fud: What procedures did you follow? What version of Ubuntu?
[18:43] <fud> go to ubuntu page
[18:43] <fud> latest ubuntu
[18:43] <fud> using windows xp
[18:43] <fud> ubuntu download page
[18:44] <odinsbane> Is anybody here using 10.04 with gnome 3?
[18:44] <fud> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:44] <fud> using typical windows xp
[18:44] <Pici> !enter | fud
[18:44] <fud> :D}
[18:44] <sudokill> odinsbane, why?
[18:45] <DexterF> xubuntu 10.04 boots alright, so the drive is ok
[18:45] <citizenD3SK> hello
[18:45] <psyk0> LmtdAT: You want an IDE, but IDE java EE or another ?
[18:45] <odinsbane> sudokill: because I don't think it was possible before, but I found a repo for it.
[18:45] <sudokill> odinsbane, afaik there is a repo, but i hear people have probs with it
[18:45] <Lmat> psyk0, Um, I want a Lilypond IDE   (Elysium seems good).
[18:46] <Oer> !gnome3
[18:46] <Lmat> http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/elysium
[18:46] <sudokill> ubuntu gnome 2 unity gnome 3 and gnome shell sounds like a mess to me
[18:46] <Lmat> psyk0, I tried that link (^) and tried dragging it to my Eclipse installation, but it didn't work.
[18:46] <citizenD3SK>  i got a problem i have U11.04 and dual monitor with nvidia 9800gtx and my second monitor can flip to go like a 8x11 page but i try to config but i am unable how i may do this ??
[18:46] <psyk0> Do you think that, eclipse classic 3.7 can be good for you ?
[18:46] <Lmat> psyk0, I think it's because my eclipse installation (3.5.x) doesn't have marketplace (only available after 3.6)
[18:46] <Lmat> psyk0, yes.
[18:46] <Jordan_U> fud: So you used Ubuntu 11.04 with universal USB installer 1.8.5.7 ?
[18:47] <Lmat> psyk0, Why, when I typed "sudo apt-get install eclipse" would it give me an old version?
[18:47] <odinsbane> citizenD3SK: the monitor configure tool in gnome doesn't give you the right options or it doesn't work?
[18:47] <zkriesse> Question: How can i find the process ID of a particular user on my machine?
[18:47] <citizenD3SK> it show me a HUGE single screen
[18:47] <fud> Download the Universal USB Installer Click 'Run' when prompted
[18:47] <ortsvorsteher> zkriesse, try ps -fe username
[18:47] <Shaeykh> I copied some directories into /etc and /opt. How do I update the system so as to reflect these changes?
[18:47] <sudokill> zkriesse, top?
[18:48] <ortsvorsteher> zkriesse, try ps -fu username, sorry ...
[18:48] <zkriesse> nope
[18:48] <zkriesse> ortsvorsteher: didn't work :(
[18:48] <zkriesse> oh lol one sec then :)
[18:48] <ortsvorsteher> :D
[18:48] <zkriesse> oh boy
[18:48] <fud> this is pretty basic guys, I'm surprised this fails
[18:49] <zkriesse> many lines reported back
[18:49] <odinsbane> citizenD3SK: So are the options you want in the gnome monitors configure tool?
[18:49] <citizenD3SK> no
[18:49] <ortsvorsteher> so you have all pid's from the user you want zkriesse
[18:49] <Jordan_U> fud: And you were using Ubuntu 11.04? The error you are seeing is normally due to a version mismatch so this information is important.
[18:49] <zkriesse> One in particular is gnome-session --session=classic-
[18:49] <citizenD3SK> and not in the nvdia xserv
[18:49] <zkriesse> Well I just want to be able to completely kill that user effectively logging them off
[18:50] <zimm3r> What is the theme on ubuntu 10.10 because even with ubuntu classic on 11.04 the panels are different
[18:50] <citizenD3SK> odinsbane:  it do have it the option to rotate but the gnome monitor pref is showing only one unknow monitor
[18:50] <fud> pretty simple. I am using ubuntu 8.10 and windows in the same machine. want to install latest ubuntu. go to ubuntu page, follow instructions, get the error
[18:50] <psyk0> LmtdAD: No, but if it's an old version, don't worry, you just have to "apt-get -u upgrade"
[18:50] <odinsbane> citizenD3SK: does the gnome configure tool work for you?  I know you can set the rotation of a monitor with xrandr, and I think that you can do that the gnome tool.
[18:50] <citizenD3SK> with a 2720x1024 res
[18:50] <saliak> Hi.  I'm trying to get a daemon i wrote to run at boot time.  I've edited /etc/init.d/skeleton to change some bits that seemed relevant to my program.  the test would be to run the script with the "start" argument to see if it actually starts the process, right?
[18:51] <fud> *from windows of course, I got another error from ubuntu :)
[18:51] <zkriesse> saliak: yes
[18:51] <odinsbane> citizenD3SK: do you have mirror display selected?
[18:51] <Jordan_U> fud: Please answer my question directly. The exact version of Ubuntu you are using is important as the error you are seeing is generally cause by a version mismatch.
[18:51] <sudokill> fud are you doing wubi install or osmething?
[18:51] <disinpho> Ive tried to follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows on how to recover grub2 after a windows 7 reinstall but now when i boot i just get a grub> prompt
[18:51] <citizenD3SK> no i have twinscreen enabled in nvdia xseerv confi tool
[18:51] <fud> I am doing exactly what says here
[18:52] <fud> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:52] <galamar> Hello again, does it make sense to assume that a 64bit processor will run a 64bit OS better than it would run an i686 OS?
[18:52] <Lmat> psyk0, I did upgrade, but it says "0 upgraded, 0 ... and 0 not upgraded."
[18:52] <fud> Jordan_U: you want to know which version I currently have installed in my pc? 8.10
[18:52] <sudokill> fud, a usb one?
[18:52] <fud> yep, usb stick
[18:52] <sudokill> galamar, yes
[18:52] <psyk0> teste just apt-get install eclipse (that will be good for me)
[18:52] <fud> Jordan_U: however I made the usb with windows
[18:52] <galamar> ok thought so.
[18:52] <sudokill> galamar, no sorry i read wrong, 64 bit can be faster though
[18:53] <Jordan_U> fud: If you refuse to answer simple questions directly, "Are you trying to put Ubuntu 11.04 on the USB, yes or no?" then we cannot help you.
[18:53] <fud> if I was refusing to answer questions I would be gone by now
[18:53] <Lmat> psyk0, huh?  I apt-get install eclipse, but it gave me an old version.
[18:53] <sudokill> fud, can you not just put it on a cd or dvd
[18:53] <fud> if you answer questions right you get right answer
[18:53] <saliak> zkriesse : so that works.  what about getting it to run on startup?  i tried rcconf but it still doesn't start when i boot up
[18:53] <psyk0> LmtdAD: ok so apt-get -u upgrade
[18:53] <fud> I don't have
[18:54] <Bio-Nic> actually, I have to reboot this whole box real quickl.
[18:54] <sudokill> k
[18:54] <Bio-Nic> brb
[18:54] <zkriesse> saliak: You're talking a BASH file then
[18:54] <krishna_> fud, by using what software did u put that in usb
[18:54] <fud> krishna_: the one that says in http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:54] <fud> it's called universal usb installer I think
[18:54] <Phr3d13> trying to get a vt6410 pci ide card working on ubuntu 11.04
[18:54] <galamar> sudokill, thats where my issue is. It just seems like my current install is slower than installs ran in the past. All i can think of is 64-vs-i686 problems.
[18:54] <sudokill> fud, no idea why it wont work, does it put it on the usb srick but ownt boot?
[18:54] <krishna_> try using unetbootin
[18:55] <psyk0> (LmtdAT: I move but i'll come back after, so If apt-get -u upgrade don't help you i will speak with you about this after, sorry but i have to go.
[18:55] <zkriesse> saliak: You'd need a BASH script and toss it in the boot file that way it'll run at bootup
[18:55] <Lmat> psyk0, I did that, and it didn't update anything.  (it would be helpful if you would type 'lmat' before sending me a message).
[18:55] <sudokill> galamar, for general use you wont notice a difference really
[18:55] <zkriesse> saliak: couple minutes and I'll help ya with that one
[18:55] <Lmat> psyk0, See you later!
[18:55] <sudokill> galamar, it probably was somehting else
[18:55] <fud> sudokill: it says could not find kernel image gfxboot
[18:55] <sudokill> galamar, but if you have 4gb or more ram then use 64 bit
[18:55] <krishna_> fud: try using unetbootin
[18:55] <sudokill> or use 64 bit anyway
[18:55] <psyk0> lmat: see you later :)
[18:55] <fud> are you guys officialy related to ubuntu?
[18:55] <sudokill> fud, i was gona say try unetbootin but they do the same thing and both should work fine
[18:55] <Lmat> fud, Obviously.
[18:56] <fud> this is something very simple
[18:56] <sudokill> why cant you do it then?
[18:56] <sudokill> :p
[18:56] <fud> it's not like I'm trying a 20 year old sound card or anything
[18:56] <saliak> zkriesse: i'm not really sure, honestly.  the program is a compiled executable.  i modified skeleton to make my init.d script.  (it starts with !/bin/sh, is that bash?  or just sh?)  thanks for the help
[18:56] <sudokill> fud, try it again with unetbootin see if it works
[18:56] <sudokill> fud, it really should be as easy as putting the iso on and booting
[18:56] <fud> what's that?
[18:56] <fud> sudokill: yes I know
[18:57] <sudokill> fud, google unetbootin its pretty much the same as the program you're currently using
[18:57] <fud> sudokill: that's why I am calling your attention
[18:57] <Phr3d13> trying to get a vt6410 pci ide card working on ubuntu 11.04
[18:57] <glebihan> Lmat, the version of Eclipse in the Ubuntu repos is not the latest, if you want the latest, you'll have to download and install it manually
[18:57] <Lmat> glebihan, Thanks.
[18:57] <sudokill> fud, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ download that and try it
[18:58] <Lmat> glebihan, I'm working on it now, but that seems slow.  How do I uninstall the old one?
[18:58] <fud> I'm gonna do that
[18:58] <Jordan_U> fud: Are you trying to put Ubuntu 11.04 on the USB? Please answer with one of "Yes", "No", or "I don't know, how do I find out?".
[18:58] <fud> Jordan_U: yes
[18:58] <fud> this Jordan_U guy is so funny
[19:00] <glebihan> Lmat, just run "sudo apt-get remove eclipse"
[19:00] <Lmat> glebihan, Thank yous.
[19:00] <Lmat> glebihan, That didn't work.
[19:00] <fud> do you guys have experience with sabayon linux?
[19:00] <Lmat> I ran it and it did a lot, but I can still execute eclipse.
[19:00] <Phr3d13> trying to get a vt6410 pci ide card working on ubuntu 11.04
[19:00] <fud> since I'm gonna install once more I was thinking about trying a different distro
[19:00] <Jordan_U> fud: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[19:01] <glebihan> Lmat, do you get any error message when running "sudo apt-get remove eclipse" ?
[19:01] <Lmat> glebihan, Hard to say...brb
[19:01] <fud> Jordan_U: yes, ubuntu 11.04 in a personal computer
[19:02] <sudokill> fud, just stick with ubuntu if you're new you'll only confuse yourself with the different package managers etc
[19:02] <Lmat> glebihan, I don't think so.  But it says, "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:" and lists a sleu of packages.
[19:02] <Lmat> glebihan, Oh, it suggests apt-get autoremove
[19:02] <Lmat> glebihan, Should I do that?
[19:02] <glebihan> Lmat, you can run "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[19:02] <glebihan> Lmat, ^^
[19:02] <Lmat> :)
[19:03] <zimm3r> Is Ubuntu Classic the fall back GNOME interface in 11.04?
[19:03] <Lmat> glebihan, How does it know what needs to be removed and what doesn't?  Is there reference counting with the packages that are installed?
[19:03] <Lmat> eek, it's removing linux-headers-2.6.38-8!
[19:03] <sudokill> zimm3r, yes
[19:03] <glebihan> Lmat, it removes packages for which there are no dependencies anymore
[19:03] <fud> sudokill: not new, used ubuntu, debian, centos, red hat, slackware, etc
[19:04] <sudokill> fud, ok. not found one you like then?
[19:04] <fud> sudokill: been using ubuntu since 5.04
[19:04] <dli> Lmat, you may try deborphan as well, in addition to 'apt-get autoremove'
[19:04] <Lmat> oh, goodie "eclipse: command not found"
[19:04] <Jordan_U> fud: Please file a bug report against Ubuntu and Universal USB installer about this error.
[19:04] <fud> that's why I was so surprised with something so basic as creating a usb not working
[19:04] <Lmat> dli, It says deborphan isn't installed.  What does it do?
[19:04] <sudokill> fud, it might be a bad download image sounes maybe like it is
[19:05] <Jordan_U> fud: For most users it does work, what is the md5sum of the iso you downloaded?
[19:05] <dli> Lmat, sudo apt-get install deborphan
[19:05] <Lmat> dli, Sure, but why would I do that?
[19:05] <fud> then it must be my problem
[19:06] <dli> Lmat, deborphan can find orphaned packages leftover by 'autoremove'
[19:06] <sudokill> fud, check the md5 yes
[19:06] <glebihan> !deborphan > Lmat
[19:06] <sudokill> to rule that out
[19:06] <DexterF> can I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 instead of 11.04?
[19:06] <sudokill> DexterF, i dont think so actually
[19:06] <Lmat> gotcha.  Thanks, glebihan, dli .
[19:07] <Jordan_U> DexterF: 11.04 is not an LTS so you would have to upgrade to 10.10 before upgrading to 11.04. Why don't you want 11.04?
[19:07] <ortsvorsteher> zkriesse, did you solve your problem to kill the user session?
[19:07] <sudokill> 11.04 is bad
[19:07] <DexterF> Jordan_U: base for trinity. not ready for 11.04 yet.
[19:08] <fud> with unetbin
[19:08] <Jordan_U> DexterF: Note that 10.04 will be supported much longer than 10.10 will be.
[19:08] <fud> do I choose live or netinstall
[19:08] <Jordan_U> fud: Live.
[19:08] <sudokill> fud, choose the iso
[19:08] <DexterF> Jordan_U: i know
[19:09] <Jordan_U> fud: Before you continue please tell us the md5sum of the iso you downloaded.
[19:09] <fud> ah ok the iso
[19:09] <fud> I think it's gonna be the same
[19:09] <sudokill> fud, if you dont know how, go into terminal and do md5sum ubuntu file
[19:09] <sudokill> it probably is the same
[19:10] <sudokill> quite unlikely to be bad
[19:10] <sudokill> but still ahppens
[19:10] <fud> I downloaded in ubuntu
[19:10] <fud> now I'm in windows
[19:10] <fud> could it be the transference between ext3 and ntfs
[19:10] <fud> ?
[19:10] <sudokill> ok just try unetbootin
[19:10] <sudokill> no
[19:10] <Jordan_U> fud: Do you know how to get the md5sum of a file?
[19:10] <sudokill> in windows youd have to download some md5 tool
[19:10] <fud> yeah but I am not in the mood
[19:11] <sudokill> just try it with unetbootin if it fails then check the md5
[19:11] <fud> I'll try this and then maybe md5
[19:11] <ortsvorsteher> !md5sum | fud
[19:11] <kubanc> can i synchronize ubuntu one at a specific moment, when i would like too?
[19:11] <fud> downloading took like 8 hours, don't wanna download again
[19:11] <sudokill> damn
[19:11] <sudokill> dialup?
[19:11] <Jordan_U> fud: You don't need to download again to check the md5sum.
[19:11] <fud> no
[19:12] <Jordan_U> fud: And if it's bad, it's going to be bad even if you don't check it. Wouldn't you rather know?
[19:12] <fud> Jordan_U: in case it fails :-D
[19:12] <Jordan_U> fud: It will also save our (volunteer) time.
[19:12] <ortsvorsteher> !msg ubottu !cookies
[19:13] <martiniano> Hello! How can a i get a list of the last updates done by the update manager?
[19:13] <usr13> ortsvorsteher: try /msg
[19:13] <sudokill> fud, damn just try unetbootin if it fails check the md5 if its bad then you'll have to redownload it. cant think of anything else it could be except a bad usb drive (unlikely again)
[19:13] <ortsvorsteher> thank you usr13
[19:13] <ortsvorsteher> !coffee
[19:14] <Jordan_U> martiniano: /var/log/dpkg.log
[19:14] <zr> !bacon
[19:14] <sudokill> bacon?
[19:14] <zr> Bacon.
[19:14] <sudokill> random
[19:14] <fud> sudokill: I have this avira antivirus
[19:15] <sudokill> cool
[19:15] <fud> it says "blocked access to e:\autorun.inf"
[19:15] <fud> all the time
[19:15] <zimm3r> When I log on to ubuntu with the Ubuntu interface I get the fall back GNOME gui but when I select Ubuntu Classic I get a different GUI
[19:15] <martiniano> thanks, something broke on the last update because now I get this annoying flicker of my screen every 6 or 7 seconds
[19:15] <sudokill> ok
[19:15] <sudokill> disable it while you use the usb stiuff then
[19:16] <sudokill> fud^
[19:16] <usr13> martiniano: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/  #Shows newest at bottom of list.
[19:16] <fud> let's see
[19:16] <fud> if it fails now I'll probably move to slackware
[19:16] <fud> :-D
[19:16] <sudokill> fud, if you disable avira, it cant block anything
[19:16] <sudokill> slackware? from ubuntu?
[19:16] <fud> usb created
[19:16] <sudokill> ok
[19:16] <fud> gonna try
[19:16] <sudokill> try it
[19:16] <Lmat> I remember someone yesterday saying that I shouldn't create a password for root.
[19:17]  * Kreative` is away: Away
[19:17] <sudokill> i remember talking about that
[19:17] <sudokill> Lmat,
[19:17] <Jordan_U> Lmat: That's correct.
[19:17] <Lmat> I'm trying to enter a subdirectory but it says "permission denied.
[19:17] <fud> or maybe go back to old and trustable debian
[19:17] <glebihan> Lmat, use sudo
[19:17] <Lmat> "  How do I get around that?
[19:17] <sudokill> Lmat, do sudo cd
[19:17] <rich__> can you boot from a lv using grub or lilo?
[19:17] <zkriesse> ortsvorsteher: nope
[19:17] <sudokill> or sudo -i
[19:17] <Lmat> "sudo cd" "sudo: cd: command not found"
[19:17] <sudokill> and cd
[19:17] <sudokill> or gksu nautilus
[19:18] <Jordan_U> Lmat: What is your end goal? (sudo cd will not work as cd is a builtin command).
[19:18] <rich__> i used to be able to do that with lilo no problem, but after upgrade to 10.04 it seems to be more difficult.
[19:18] <ortsvorsteher> zkriesse, why , if i can ask you, you want to kill all sessions from the user? does he make a big load?
[19:18] <Lmat> Jordan_U, Right, why do these guys suggest it then?
[19:18] <martiniano> any idea of what could be causing this flickering? I'm not  able to capture it on video
[19:18] <Lmat> Jordan_U, I hope to enter the directory and compile a Cpp program there.
[19:18] <Jordan_U> Lmat: Because they don't know better.
[19:18] <glebihan> Lmat, use "sudo -s" or "sudo -i" and then type your command
[19:18] <Lmat> Jordan_U, I also would like to know what to do in general when I have this problem.
[19:18] <zkriesse> ortsvorsteher: Well actually it's not for me personally lol, it's for a question on the ubuntu stack exchange
[19:19] <Lmat> glebihan, I did, and it says "No such file or directory"
[19:19] <sudokill> Lmat, use sudo -i
[19:19] <zkriesse> I wanted to test my "Answer" before I posted it to the guy/gal
[19:19] <Lmat> sudokill, yup, tried that.
[19:19] <sudokill> Lmat, what directory is it?
[19:19] <sudokill> standad one?
[19:19] <Lmat> sudokill, /media/sf_thetemp/
[19:19] <glebihan> Lmat, either you mistyped or the directory doesn't exist
[19:19] <Lmat> sudokill, nope.
[19:19] <Jordan_U> Lmat: It's generally not recommended to compile things as root. I would personally chown the directory or cp the contents somwhere you can access them as a normal user.
[19:19] <Lmat> glebihan, I tab-completed!
[19:19] <Lmat> Jordan_U, um...Well, that sounds like a great idea.
[19:19] <ortsvorsteher> zkriesse, i would try to figure out which session is a gnome or a desktop session and kill it. have fun with ubuntu stack exchange. ;)
[19:20] <sudokill> Lmat, do ls /media see if its actually there?
[19:20] <Snarsh> the new ubuntu kernel screwed up my nvidia drivers, startx wouldn't work because it said there was a mismatch between the kernel nvidia drivers and the actual nvidia drivers i had installed, i uninstalled nvidia and installed nvidia-current but now it says it doesn't recognize nvidia as a module (which is defined in my xorg.conf file)
[19:20] <Lmat> Jordan_U, I suppose that will do.  How do I chown something?
[19:20] <zkriesse> ortsvorsteher: Oh I do :) over 30 questions i've answered :D
[19:20] <Lmat> sudokill, yup.
[19:20] <Jordan_U> !permissions | Lmat
[19:20] <sudokill> try tabbing instead of typing the dir it wont typo that way
[19:20] <ortsvorsteher> not bad :)
[19:20] <rhin0> anyone aware of network problems with 11.04 I'm getting ssh no route to host and nfs drops out -- never had this before -- no idea
[19:20] <Lmat> sudokill, I did.
[19:21] <Phsy> Hello everyone
[19:21] <Jordan_U> Lmat: In this case you probably want to use "sudo chown -R username:username /path/to/directory/" But be carefull as that will change the owner of all of the subdirectories as well.
[19:22] <rhin0> don't udnerstand it network seems to fail then its back up
[19:22] <Lmat> Jordan_U, excellent.
[19:22] <StephenS> Which bit ot istall? 32 bit or 64 bit linux ubuntu 11?
[19:22] <sudokill> Lmat, what are you trying to do again?
[19:22] <Snarsh> has anyone had similar problems updating to the new kernel release and knows a solution to get their nvidia drivers and x11 working again?
[19:22] <sudokill> StephenS, 64 bit
[19:22] <StephenS> why?
[19:22] <sudokill> for 64 bit cpu
[19:22] <StephenS> faster
[19:22] <StephenS> cpu?
[19:23] <sudokill> how much ram?
[19:23] <Lmat> sudokill, Enter a directory and compile a program there.
[19:23] <zykotick9> StephenS, do you have more then 4GB RAM?
[19:23] <Phsy> LulzSec?
[19:23] <StephenS> no
[19:23] <StephenS> I have
[19:23] <bl4ckcomb`> StephenS, 64bit is recommended for server systems. 32bit will have a little more support (which can be needed for desktop systems)
[19:23] <sudokill> Lmat, but you cant enter the dir you said?
[19:23] <StephenS> 800mb of ram
[19:23] <Lmat> sudokill, yes.
[19:23] <sudokill> ok 32 bit then
[19:23] <sudokill> StephenS, use 32 bit for low ram 64 bit programs take up more ram
[19:23] <bl4ckcomb`> StephenS, but still, the 64bit support is *much* better than in windows
[19:23] <Lmat> Jordan_U's suggestion worked like butter.
[19:23] <Lmat> sudokill, I now own the directory and can enter it.
[19:24] <sudokill> Lmat, ok, root should have been able to though with sudo -i
[19:24] <StephenS> ok
[19:24] <Lmat> sudokill, I'll let you know next time ;)
[19:24] <martiniano> can someone help me tackle my flickering screen problem?
[19:25] <sudokill> StephenS, if i was you id go for xubuntu with 800mb ram
[19:25] <StephenS> I have lower ram and I will use 64 bit
[19:25] <StephenS> cpu is also poor
[19:25] <sudokill> StephenS, why use 64 bit>
[19:25] <sudokill> low ram and bad cpu
[19:25] <StephenS> they told me to use it
[19:25] <sudokill> 64 bit is the norm now
[19:25] <StephenS> normal?
[19:26] <antivirtel> hello! I have wrong date in my proftpd.log, so the fail2ban can't ban out the failed tries. The date is written in my locale(Hu), so Júl instead of Jul - how can I change the locale for logging date?
[19:26] <sudokill> but with old systems you have to make the most of the low ram
[19:26] <sudokill> e..g use 32 bit and use something like xuubntu
[19:26] <StephenS> Linux Ubuntu 11 64 bit I have now
[19:26] <StephenS> ;d
[19:26] <sudokill> ok
[19:26] <sudokill> why ask in the first place then
[19:26] <StephenS> u told me to install 64 bit
[19:26] <sudokill> good luck with the speed...
[19:26] <sudokill> StephenS, no i said 32 bit
[19:26] <sudokill> for 800mb ram
[19:26] <zykotick9> sudokill, xubuntu is only slightly lighter then ubuntu - lubuntu is the "light" distro
[19:26] <sudokill> because 64 bit apps use more ram...
[19:27] <sudokill> zykotick9, afaik xfce uses less ram than lxde
 StephenS, 64 bit
[19:27] <StephenS> [09:22:53]:     <StephenS> why?
[19:27] <StephenS> [09:22:54]:     <sudokill> for 64 bit cpu
[19:27] <zykotick9> sudokill, no way!
[19:28] <sudokill> zykotick9, ok well theres hardly any difference in it either way
[19:28] <sudokill> prob 10-20mb
[19:29] <zykotick9> sudokill, see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=2
[19:29] <Snarsh> has anyone updated their kernel to the new release in the last day or two and had problems with their nvidia drivers?
[19:29] <sudokill> zykotick9, ive seen all sorts of random benchmarsk showing different results
[19:30] <sudokill> both are fine for 800mb ram
[19:30] <Kaoloi> hi all
[19:30] <Lmat> Kaoloi, hi
[19:31] <martiniano> Snarsh: what kind of problems?
[19:31] <Kaoloi> Lmat, hello :) ive just installed ubuntu (im totally new) do you know how to install adobe flash player ?
[19:31] <sudokill> i think its in sofware centre
[19:32] <Lmat> Kaoloi, nope.  I wouldn't recommend it.  But I just started using ubuntu.
[19:32] <Kaoloi> i'd like to view videos on youtube at least!
[19:32] <Kaoloi> so i need some sort of flash
[19:32] <Kaoloi> what to do?
[19:32] <zykotick9> !flash | Kaoloi
[19:32] <sudokill> either install it or use minitube if its just for youutube
[19:32] <SolitonWave> :(
[19:32] <Kaoloi> thanks!
[19:33] <Kaoloi> !flash
[19:33] <Kaoloi> what o.o
[19:33] <Jordan_U> Kaoloi: http://youtube.com/html5 is another option (though flash is not difficult to install).
[19:33] <BluesKaj> Kaoloi, your best bet is install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:33] <sudokill> htlm5 works for not much in youtube
[19:33] <SolitonWave> I can't install programs until I fix apt-get or something
[19:33] <Kaoloi> omg thanks so much guys
[19:33] <ortsvorsteher> Kaoloi, you know how to open a terminal? or software center in ubuntu?
[19:33] <zykotick9> Kaoloi, BluesKaj suggestion is probably the best
[19:33] <Kaoloi> yes ortsvorsteher
[19:34] <Gio1523> ciao ragazzi
[19:34] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | Kaolo
[19:34] <saruji> hi guys, quick question, i just downloaded conky, it was a tar.bz2 extention, i've extrated it, but now how do i install it?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Kaoloi: That "!flash" was a command to our faithfull channel bot ubottu to give you a pre-written message about flash.
[19:34] <SolitonWave> Opening a terminal in Ubuntu is easy
[19:34] <Kaoloi> ok then i'll follow BluesKaj
[19:34] <Zdisiu55> you a Kaoloi message about flash
[19:34] <ortsvorsteher> Kaoloi, in terminal you can try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[19:34] <martiniano> !flash
[19:34] <sudokill> saruji, can yuou not sudo apt get install conky
[19:34] <Zdisiu55> flash
[19:34] <zykotick9> saruji, rather then installing from source "sudo apt-get install conky"
[19:34] <Snarsh> martiniano: directly after the kernel update and restart, startx told me there was a mismatch between the kernel version and the drivers version, i uninstalled nvidia and then installed nvidia-current to ttry to correct for the problem, i restarted, nvidia-xconfig, startx fails with the xorg.conf because it says the nvidia module in the file doesn't exist
[19:34] <Zdisiu55> http : //youtube
[19:34] <saruji> sudokill, zykotick9 i just want to know how to compile
[19:35] <sudokill> why
[19:35] <Kaoloi> ok i'll give a try
[19:35] <sudokill> whats the point
[19:35] <zykotick9> saruji, not the best idea, but knock-yourself-out.
[19:35] <zykotick9> !checkinstall | saruji
[19:35] <sudokill> saruji, normally its ./configure, make, sudo make install
[19:35] <Lmat> How do I delete a directory, all his subdirectories and all their contents?
[19:35] <Zdisiu55> http : //youtube
[19:35] <Zdisiu55> sudokill install conky
[19:35] <sudokill> Zdisiu55, ?
[19:35] <martiniano> Snarsh: sorry, no idea what's wrong, I have another problem and thought maybe you had the same
[19:36] <llutz> Lmat: rm -r /path/to/dir/           if you are really sure, no way to get it back
[19:36] <ortsvorsteher> Lmat, just do that if you are really sure that all of its contents you don't need anymore.
[19:36] <Zdisiu55> llutz : right, that's the best answer
[19:36] <Snarsh> martiniano: what's your problem exactly?
[19:36] <saruji> sudokill, so first run ./configure then do make and then sudo make install?
[19:36] <sudokill> yes
[19:36] <zykotick9> saruji, if you use checkinstall you can clean up the potential mess afterwards, if you don't removing can be very difficult.
[19:36] <Zdisiu55> rather then installing from source sudo saruji install conky
[19:36] <Lmat> thanks, llutz ortsvorsteher
[19:36] <BluesKaj> Kaoloi,  open a package manager and look for ubuntu-restricted-extras, or open a terminal and do, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:36] <sudokill> or like someone said use checkinstall to be able to uninstall it easy
[19:36] <SolitonWave> rm -r ./directory
[19:36] <Zdisiu55> i want, and netbeans has the other half
[19:37] <saruji> Zdisiu55, lol alright
[19:37] <saruji> zykotick9, thank you
[19:37] <Zdisiu55> follow Lmat, Lmat i just downloaded conky, it was a command to our faithfull channel bot
[19:37] <Kaoloi> ok BluesKaj! doing it right now :) ubuntu is wonderful
[19:37] <trism> Snarsh: you could try to reinstall the linux-headers package, which will trigger rebuilding nvidia-current and see if it fails: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-$(uname -r); and if it doesn't: sudo modprobe nvidia-current; then try startx again
[19:37] <Lmat> Zdisiu55, huh?  Why are you following me?  what does conky have to do with me?
[19:37] <Zdisiu55> recommend it is my fault for being spoiled rotten by visual studio
[19:37] <SolitonWave> Oh, llutz answered  lmat's question
[19:37] <sudokill> Zdisiu55, what are you talking about?
[19:37] <Lmat> Zdisiu55, I like being spoiled rotten :)
[19:37] <martiniano> Snarsh: have a nasty case of flickering screen. It seems to happen every 6 seconds or so. Also, when I lower the brightness of the screen to the minimum, it gets worse.
[19:38] <Zdisiu55> won't ? or software center in ubuntu is easy
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !apt | Kaoloi
[19:38] <Snarsh> trism: do i type that command exactly as it shows? with $(uname -r) or are they less than greater than signs?
[19:38] <trism> Snarsh: yes, the $(uname -r) will be expanded to the version of your current kernel
[19:38] <sudokill> Snarsh, that does your current kernel
[19:38] <saruji> where does conky install to by default?
[19:38] <sudokill> so it dont get it wrong
[19:38] <Zdisiu55> builds of trism for sid at http : //paste
[19:38] <Zdisiu55> sudokill, so first run
[19:39] <sudokill> Zdisiu55, i have no idea what you're talking about, lol
[19:39] <zykotick9> saruji, will depend you your are using Ubuntu's DEB or the .tar.gz
[19:39] <Snarsh> martiniano: have you tried connecting to a different monitor? that almost sounds like it could be a problem with the hardware, did you change any software recently?
[19:39] <zykotick9> s/you/if/
[19:39] <saruji> zykotick9, DEB
[19:39] <zykotick9> saruji, double click on the DEB in nautilus and I think it will show you
[19:40] <zykotick9> saruji, why do you need to know where it installs to?
[19:40] <zykotick9> saruji, "which conky" will show the path if it's installed
[19:40] <saruji> zykotick9, i used sudo apt-get install conky but i cannot find how to execute it
[19:40] <sudokill> saruji type conky
[19:40] <martiniano> Snarsh: actually, I have a second monitor connected and it doesn't flicker... the thing is that I booted windows and it doesn't happen. I think it is related to some updates I did but really don't know.
[19:40] <zykotick9> saruji, alt+f2 conky
[19:40] <sudokill> and it will start with some ugly default
[19:40] <Zdisiu55> what does conky install to by default ?
[19:41] <Zdisiu55> related to some updates i did but really don't exist
[19:41] <saruji> sudokill zykotick9 sweet, now how do i get it to auto start?
[19:41] <JWFoxJr> I was wondering if there is a way the updates are installed on ubuntu server - I want to change it to automatically install security updates.
[19:41] <Diverdude> Hello, I have a .pem file which i got fro amazon cloud services. This is a private key which I would like to use for ssh connection. I am not to sure how to use this file. Any hints?
[19:41] <sudokill> saruji, add conky to autostrt apps
[19:41] <sudokill> i think you need sleep
[19:41] <Zdisiu55> Diverdude, which together with dpkg forms the basic ubuntu package management toolkit
[19:41] <sudokill> for it to work properly
[19:41] <sudokill> like 2 or 3 seconds
[19:41] <zykotick9> saruji, "Startup Applications" should be in your preference menu
[19:42] <saruji> sudokill, zykotick9 thank you
[19:42] <Diverdude> Zdisiu55, ?
[19:42] <Zdisiu55> what do you want ?
[19:42] <Diverdude> Zdisiu55, i want to use it to log in over ssh
[19:42] <sudokill> Zdisiu55, you're not making any sense at all
[19:43] <tertl3> how do install a .deb?
[19:43] <sudokill> double click it
[19:43] <Zdisiu55> like it could be a consequence, not
[19:43] <sudokill> it should open in software cente  i think
[19:43] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I'm getting the error 'mount.nfs: access denied by server' when trying to mount a nfs folder on my NAS when inside a virtualbox vm, from a normal os, it works. Any help?
[19:43] <zykotick9> tertl3, from cli "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[19:43] <KNUBBIG> tertl3: sudo dpkg -i debname.deb
[19:43] <Diverdude> any1?
[19:44] <Snarsh> martiniano: possibly the screen has the incorrect frequency setting in the xorg.conf file? i haven't had that problem before, just throwing it out there. someone else might know better (i can't even google right now, running in terminal)
[19:44] <rich__> tertl3 dkpg -i packagename.deb
[19:44] <Zdisiu55> sweet, now how do install a
[19:44] <Zdisiu55> the deb in nautilus and i think it is related to some updates
[19:44] <kjdkdkkk> hi i want to password protect an html doc webpage i saved to desktop on gnome any ideas on a simple way of doing this or at least hiding or even encrypting it thanks
[19:45] <kjdkdkkk> there arent any options in properties tab
[19:45] <KNUBBIG> I'm getting the error 'mount.nfs: access denied by server' when trying to mount a nfs folder on my NAS when inside a virtualbox vm, from a normal os, it works. Any help?
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> +
[19:45] <sudokill> kjdkdkkk, you could use truecrypt with a container
[19:45] <zykotick9> kjdkdkkk, to hide it, just put a period as the first character - so .foo.html will be a hidden file
[19:45] <sudokill> idk about other encyption things
[19:45] <Zdisiu55> it or use minsudokillbe if its just for youutube
[19:46] <sudokill> Zdisiu55, are you drunk ?
[19:46] <kjdkdkkk> ok thanks
[19:46] <martiniano> Snarsh: yeah, it's really strange. It's a laptop screen by the way. I can't think of anything, and don't want to reinstall ubuntu.. hope to find some help
[19:46] <sudokill> lol
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> KNUBBIG, nsf server may be set to only allow access from a  the same network range as its on.  Vbox  can set up its own private network. check the ip#'s
[19:47] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis: uh well okay, thanks. I will have to look if I have any options to configure on my NAS
[19:47] <zykotick9> KNUBBIG, is VBox using NAT?  do you have a 10.x.x.x address?
[19:47] <KNUBBIG> zykotick9: yes
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> KNUBBIG,  you can set vbox to  appear on the local lan as if it was a real physical machine.
[19:47] <Zdisiu55> local is not executed at all
[19:47] <AlexDevilLX> Whats better for ubuntu Intel Core i5 or Intel Cor i7
[19:48] <zykotick9> KNUBBIG, then NFS probably would need to be configured to allow that address range.  Or use VBox's setting as Dr_Willis suggested.
[19:48] <Zdisiu55> vbox's really strange
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> AlexDevilLX,  depends on your needs and budget.
[19:48] <DeRoSvOs> Hey gang.  Let's say I'm SSHing in to a server and when I hit pipe, it prints a *, forward slash prints a dash -... not sure how to fix that.
[19:48] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis: zykotick9: you, I'll look into it :)
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> AlexDevilLX,  some i5's are a better value then an i7 at some price ranges.
[19:48] <DeRoSvOs> qwerty is ok, but the alt characters are messed up.
[19:48] <AlexDevilLX> except ubuntu will also program in visual studio
[19:48] <KNUBBIG> thank you*
[19:48] <saliak> I have a script i created in init.d, let's call it foo.  when i run /etc/init.d/foo start, the daemon starts and runs.  I ran update-rc.d foo defaults and it looked likeit worked.  however, when i boot up the machine, the daemon doesn't start.  any ideas?
[19:48] <Rebas> Hey guys, i downloaded flash, and it gave me a .so file, where do i put that to get flash in opera?
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> Rebas,  use the package manager tools to install flash properly.
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[19:49] <Zdisiu55> page at least !
[19:49] <usr13> Rebas: In Opera's plugins directory I suppose.
[19:49] <zykotick9> saliak, FYI using rc.local is probably a lot easier then what you are trying.  Best of luck.
[19:50] <Rebas> DR_Willis, i used the software center, and it installed, but after a restart, it still says i need fleash, so i downloaded it manually from adobe
[19:50] <Rebas> hence the .so file
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> saliak,  you may want to use a Upstart type script,     in /etc/init/  and not use the sysv method.
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> Rebas,  does flash work in other browsers?
[19:51] <KNUBBIG> Mh the allowed IP Addresses on my NFS-Server are * that's interesting
[19:51] <usr13> Rebas: cp libflashplayer.so  /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[19:51] <usr13> Rebas: sudo cp libflashplayer.so  /usr/lib/opera/plugins/
[19:51] <zykotick9> KNUBBIG, check your /etc/exports file
[19:51] <Snarsh> what is the key command to kill the X11 server currently running?
[19:51] <Rebas> thanks usr13, ill try that
[19:51] <Dr_Willis> Snarsh,  one way ' sudo service gdm stop'
[19:51] <zykotick9> Snarsh, alt+printscreen+k
[19:52] <KNUBBIG> zykotick9: "/share/MD0_DATA/fabian" *(ro,async,no_root_squash)
[19:52] <KNUBBIG> "/share/NFS/fabian" *(ro,nohide,async,no_root_squash)
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> its alt-sysreq-k  here. :) but thats the same as the printscreen key on most keyboards.
[19:52] <zykotick9> KNUBBIG, don't know then
[19:52] <usr13> Dr_Willis: We're about to find out.... ;)
[19:52] <KNUBBIG> zykotick9: will try giving my vm an actual IP, brb
[19:53] <DeRoSvOs> Anyone have any idea for me?  When I try and print a pipe charachter ||||, in a shell, it prints asterix ****, instead.
[19:54] <usr13> DeRoSvOs: What happens when you hit uppercase 8 ?
[19:54] <DeRoSvOs> usr13: Right.  You mean shift-8?
[19:54] <usr13> DeRoSvOs: yea
[19:55] <luw> hi is anyone here familar with zfs?
[19:55] <KNUBBIG> zykotick9: don't know why but with an IP from the LAN it works, so ty a lot
[19:55] <DeRoSvOs> usr13: I get open parathesis (((
[19:55] <Diverdude> arg i accidently entered vi, how do i get out again?
[19:55] <p1l0t> In the GUI (11.04 desktop) if you click on a tab on the menu at the bottom of the screen and the window is up, but behind something else... it minimizes the first time you press it, the second time it opens up to the front...
[19:55] <zykotick9> KNUBBIG, glad you figured it out :)
[19:55] <DeRoSvOs> Diverdude: ESC
[19:55] <usr13> DeRoSvOs: Well, getting closer...
[19:55] <KNUBBIG> now I only need to get eclipse from the debian-ppa to work :@
[19:55] <DeRoSvOs> Diverdude: Then q!
[19:55] <luw> im trying to replace a drive on my 10.04 server
[19:55] <DeRoSvOs> Diverdude: I mean, then   :q!
[19:56] <Diverdude> ahh
[19:56] <Diverdude> thx
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> KNUBBIG,  i would guess.. nfs security settings. :)
[19:56] <zykotick9> luw, ZFS only has userland support in gnu/linux - so it's far from ideal
[19:57] <saliak> zykotick9 : easier is good.  hrm.  so i searched for rc.local and found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto, the problem is that it runs the script at shutdown too (and launches my program then, but still doesn't seem to run it at boot.
[19:57] <zykotick9> luw, Debian GNU/kFreeBSD support it
[19:57] <luw> zykotick9, i'm using the kernel module form along with SPL
[19:57] <Rebas> I still cant get flash to install.
[19:57] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis: might be but as the options I can change on the NAS are somewhat limited, I dunno :)
[19:57] <luw> it is running as a module on ubuntu
[19:57] <luw> can you help me with this problem?
[19:58] <luw> its a zfs problem i believe
[19:58] <zykotick9> saliak, sorry, i certainly am not as knowledgeable as that article.
[19:58] <zykotick9> luw, what is SPL?
[19:58] <ChogyDan> saliak: what is the script?
[19:58] <luw> i think it means "solaris porting layer"
[19:59] <luw> zfsonlinux.org is what im using
[19:59] <K350> what flag/option to use with top to check CPU usage only?
[19:59] <zykotick9> luw, http://zfsonlinux.org/ i found it.  Good luck.
[19:59] <luw> but it is a zfs problem
[19:59] <Newbie87> Sorry, quick question...any possible "omg my computer is dead" if I pkill SSWAP?
[19:59] <Newbie87> or is it safe?
[19:59] <saliak> ChogyDan : i've got an embedded system (well, a headless system with an LCD interface) that i want to have act like an appliance.  the script launches my daemon that makes it do it's thing (control buttons, write stuff to LCD, etc.)
[19:59] <zykotick9> Newbie87, "swapoff /device" is probably better
[19:59] <ChogyDan> K350: shift o maybe
[19:59] <Newbie87> My swap is already off, in order to run sswap
[20:00] <Newbie87> zykotick9, @
[20:00] <usr13> Newbie87: Not the recommended thing to do, but no, it wont kill your system.
[20:00] <lucas49> how i install pyqt4 for python 3?
[20:00] <Derpadong> Gr to ubuntu switching to unity lol
[20:00] <zykotick9> Newbie87, sorry i though SSWAP was a typo - i have no idea what sswap is.  Best of luck.
[20:00] <K350> ChogyDan: Ah..I mean in %
[20:01] <ChogyDan> saliak: have you tried using upstart?
[20:01] <Rebas> got flash installed, i just typoed, thanks usr13
[20:01] <saliak> nope, lemme google for that
[20:01] <saliak> chogydan: nope, lemme google for that
[20:01] <ChogyDan> !upstart | saliak
[20:02] <Newbie87> Alright, thanks usr13
[20:02] <Newbie87> seems to have worked :)
[20:02] <Newbie87> 2 points for you
[20:02] <DeRoSvOs> I don't even know where to start with this problem.  LOL!  Man.
[20:02] <usr13> Newbie87: I think you must have been asking about  swapon & swapoff  Right?
[20:02] <Snarsh> zykotick9: were you intentionally trying to get me to kill ALL processes on ubuntu when you told me to do that?
[20:03] <saliak> chogydan - looks pretty promising.  will try it
[20:03] <ChogyDan> saliak: there is an example somewhere that I used, something like: start on started tty1 \n exec "your script"
[20:04] <zykotick9> Snarsh, i don't see where i messaged you?  so what?
[20:04] <Snarsh> alt + printscreen + k
[20:04] <zykotick9> Snarsh, that restarts Xorg
[20:05] <Pici> zykotick9: if you're in X at the time.
[20:05] <zykotick9> Pici, what does it do from a VT?
[20:06] <Pici> zykotick9: Likely, it will attempt to kill that vtty.
[20:06]  * zykotick9 goes to test
[20:06] <Pici> zykotick9: Or the login shell running.  I've never tested it myself.
[20:07] <zykotick9> Pici, just brought me back to another login, so yes i guess it does "kill" it.
[20:07] <Pici> zykotick9: Its one of the magic sysreq commands, it just happens to work for restartin xorg.
[20:09] <Snarsh> yeah i forgot which sysreq command did what, froze my comp when i used it. it might be N that kills all processes though
[20:10] <Pici> Snarsh: I thought that was 'I'
[20:10] <Snarsh> probably, can't remember them, why i hate using them at all heh
[20:12] <Dr_Willis> 'magic sysreq key is magic' :)
[20:13] <DeRoSvOs> Is it a "keymap" issue when pressing down the PIPE | key retuns an asterisk *?
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> DeRoSvOs,  i would think so.
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> DeRoSvOs,  does it do it in the console also?
[20:13] <jrib> DeRoSvOs: that would be my first guess as well...
[20:13] <Snarsh> i ended up being able to repair the problem with nvidia drivers and the new kernel, i just deleted xorg.conf and used startx and made a new one from there
[20:14] <DeRoSvOs> Dr_Willis: This is exactly where it's doing it.  So I tried issuing a:  loadkeys la-latin1.map
[20:14] <zykotick9> DeRoSvOs, Shift+\
[20:14] <DeRoSvOs> zykotick9: I know how to print a pipe.
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> Snarsh,  weird. My xorg.conf for my nvidia system just disables the nvidia splash screen. :)
[20:14] <DeRoSvOs> Dr_Willis: Do you know how to check the current keymap?
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> DeRoSvOs,  nope. perhaps the loadkeys cmd has an option
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> Ive rarely had to mess with keymaps..
[20:15] <zykotick9> DeRoSvOs, sorry i didn't put together that that was the regular key for pipe - sorry.
[20:15] <DeRoSvOs> zykotick9: All good. :)
[20:16] <zykotick9> DeRoSvOs, http://www.genmaint.com/how-to-make-a-pipe-in-putty-ssh.html i looked at it too fast, no answer on that page BTW
[20:16] <Pici> Keymaps shouldn't matter if you're in puTTY
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> putty has its own keymap/encoding options i thought..
[20:16] <Pici> DeRoSvOs: Is this in putty? or have we gotten confused?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> or is encoding (utf-8) and stuff totally differnt? :) ive rarely had to mess with it.
[20:17] <Pici> Dr_Willis: It has some limited keymap stuff, but yes, encoding is different.
[20:17] <BigDaddyDuergar> Why doesn't ubuntu dvd burner software recognize when I put in a DVD-R?
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> I do recall screen in putty. e Being quirky for me in the past.
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> BigDaddyDuergar,  ive noticed in a few cases ive had to insert the disk.. then start the burning app.
[20:18] <DeRoSvOs> Pici:  It's actually in a vSphere (VMware) console on an Ubuntu VM.  I just fixed it now, by doing:  loadkeys us.map
[20:18] <BigDaddyDuergar> Dr_Willis: Ive tried it with the media in, media out.. nothing
[20:18] <DeRoSvOs> Dr_Willis: And now, pipe works.  Woo!
[20:20] <tahir> how do i change the default ubuntu view i dont like the new desktop layout
[20:21] <qin> !classis | tahir
[20:21] <qin> !classic | tahir
[20:21] <tahir> thanks
[20:21] <DeRoSvOs> You guys have any tips on using Ubuntu when apt is not installed?  I'm in CLI and I do apt-<tab> and there's nothing.
[20:22] <DeRoSvOs> Like, to get packages installed.
[20:22] <qin> DeRoSvOs: which apt-get
[20:22] <ChogyDan> DeRoSvOs: wget then dpkg -i   ?
[20:23] <qin> ChogyDan: Or just fix autocomplete
[20:23] <ChogyDan> DeRoSvOs: or maybe the tab complete stuff isn't installed
[20:23] <DeRoSvOs> qin: no apt-get in (...)
[20:23] <DeRoSvOs> ChogyDan: Nah, seems to work with other cmds.
[20:24] <qin> DeRoSvOs: Is it web hosting?
[20:24] <Wanderer> I have a system that is currently on jaunty,  need to upgrade it to Lucid.  do-release-upgrade is telling /w3
[20:24] <DeRoSvOs> qin:  It's supposed to be firewall only.  So very minimal.
[20:24] <DaSinge> Hello all!
[20:24] <buztay> trying to download a webpage w/ embedded diagram graphics. copy then paste into open off, but diagrams are blank. help?
[20:24] <zykotick9> !eol | Wanderer
[20:24] <Inkura> Anyone knows how to bridge from a ppp0 interface to eth0? Explained in this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1803602
[20:25] <BigDaddyDuergar> Anyone know if I need to install something specific in order to write dvd-r? my drive supports it, I'm looking at it right now.
[20:25] <Wanderer> Taht's what I needed Zyk: thanks
[20:25] <psyk0> Lmat: Have you eclipse 3.6 now ?
[20:25] <tehnef> BigDaddyDuergar: should just work. have you inserted a blank media?
[20:26] <BigDaddyDuergar> tehnef: Yes, i have the media in from a brand new spindle, i've tried like 15-20 different disks from it, it keeps telling me to insert blank media
[20:27] <tehnef> BigDaddyDuergar: what does "wodim -checkdrive" respond with?
[20:27] <llutz> Inkura: take this as an example, just change the ifaces to your situation http://jeffond756.xanga.com/746997382/internet-connection-sharing-in-ubuntu-natty-1104/
[20:28] <BigDaddyDuergar> http://pastebin.com/Hd7UnCNN
[20:28] <Inkura> llutz, eth0 as ppp0 and wlan0 as eth0?
[20:28] <BigDaddyDuergar> it's a BDD/DVD+-RW/CD-RW
[20:29] <tehnef> BigDaddyDuergar: do you have an ISO file to test with?
[20:29] <llutz> Inkura: yes
[20:29] <Diverdude> is it possible to instruct .htaccess file to use system users instead of .htpasswd?
[20:29] <Inkura> Alright, thanks.
[20:29] <BigDaddyDuergar> tehnef: yeah, several I have to burn. lol. each iso comes up with the same problem. That command is telling me it's a CD-RW not BD/DVDRW/CDRW
[20:30] <glebihan> Diverdude, I don't think so, but you should probably ask on #apache
[20:31] <tehnef> BigDaddyDuergar: you probably need a specific driver for BR, but it looks like it will burn cd-rs and dvd-rs with no problem
[20:31] <tehnef> BigDaddyDuergar: you can try burning an ISO from the command line "wodim filename.iso"
[20:32] <BigDaddyDuergar> tehnef: Says it can't load the meda
[20:34] <russoisraeli> hello guys... I am having a problem attaching my bluetooth keyboard.... i am using the bluetooth applet, and it says that the keyboard paired successfully, but it never works.... I found this in the log
[20:34] <russoisraeli> "error updating services: Software caused connection abort (103)"
[20:35] <russoisraeli> using the hidd tool, hidd --connect, or hidd --search gives a similar error
[20:35] <russoisraeli> hello guys... I am having a problem attaching my bluetooth keyboard.... i am using the bluetooth applet, and it says that the keyboard paired successfully, but it never works.... I found this in the log
[20:35] <russoisraeli> "error updating services: Software caused connection abort (103)"
[20:35] <russoisraeli> using the hidd tool, hidd --connect, or hidd --search gives a similar error
[20:36] <russoisraeli> it's a Microsoft keyboard elite for bluetooth 1002.... mouse/keyboard with a bluetooth dongle
[20:41] <d3m0nk> hi
[20:41] <d3m0nk> i did a chmod 777 on root
[20:41] <d3m0nk> i mean chmod 777 /
[20:41] <d3m0nk> by mistake
[20:41] <d3m0nk> :(
[20:41] <jrib> d3m0nk: what exactly did you execute?
[20:41] <d3m0nk> how to fix it
[20:41] <FloodBot1> d3m0nk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <d3m0nk> :(
[20:42] <d3m0nk> chmod 777 /
[20:42] <usr13> d3m0nk: You can fix it.
[20:42] <jrib> d3m0nk: then run chmod 755 /
[20:42] <d3m0nk> thank god
[20:42] <d3m0nk> that was a live webserver you guys saved
[20:43] <d3m0nk> i owe you guys my life
[20:43] <usr13> thank jrib
[20:43] <d3m0nk> :)
[20:43] <d3m0nk> thanks jrib :) words aren't enough
[20:43] <jrib> d3m0nk: no problem
[20:43] <d3m0nk> ive been working on this for last 2weeks and i lost my head :)
[20:44] <russoisraeli> can anyone help me with my bluetooth keyboard?
[20:44] <adrian15> d3m0nk: So it was not a recursive chmod ? What problem did you have when it was 777? System warnings maybe ?
[20:45] <d3m0nk> no not a recursive one
[20:45] <d3m0nk> if it was recursive i would have commited suicide :)
[20:46] <usr13> Yea, that would have been tough to recover from.
[20:46] <d3m0nk> adrian15,  are there risks associated with  a 777 on root?
[20:46] <rooted-insideme> howh do I remove rpcbind?
[20:46] <d3m0nk> not a recursive one?
[20:47] <usr13> rooted-insideme: You want to un-install rpcbind?
[20:47] <usr13> rooted-insideme: sudo apt-get remove rpcbind
[20:48] <Phr3d13> still trying to get support for a vt6410 pci raid/ide card
[20:48] <adrian15> d3m0nk: I suppose that yes, that there are. Anyone that has an account in the system could create new directories at /.
[20:49] <rooted-insideme> usr13: yeah already tried that
[20:49] <usr13> rooted-insideme: Dodm
[20:49] <usr13> rooted-insideme: Didn't work?
[20:50] <kazagistar> I just upgraded to natty, but I am having trouble using the "classic" gnome. How do I bring up the gconf-editor to change my settings manually?
[20:50] <cypha> how do I get vim to start following .vimrc
[20:50] <cypha> ?
[20:51] <quentusrex_> Is there a specific channel for ubuntu alsa support?
[20:51] <usr13> cypha: What?
[20:51] <cypha> usr13, nm, it's already working
[20:51] <kazagistar> Gnome classic works just fine, but I want to replace the toolbar with avant-window-navigator
[20:51] <quentusrex_> I just ran the alsa info script and found that: Driver version:     1.0.23 Library version:    1.0.24.1 Utilities version:  1.0.24.2
[20:52] <d3m0nk> usr13, jrib  thanks again! gotta run now
[20:52] <vooze> kazagistar: if you like docks etc. etc. like me consider switching from gnome
[20:52] <vooze> kazagistar: maybe try Xubuntu? I personally like it really much
[20:53] <litropy> I'm getting NISSERVER: not found when setting up nis. a recent google search tells me this is likely because ... somehow, a bit alarmingly, my computer has been set to check a server for my password file, or something along those lines. 1) how do I fix it; 2) What's the likelihood I've been hacked?
[20:53] <kazagistar> vooze: I like Awn specifically, but I have had no trouble with using gnome as my toolkit in the past
[20:54] <Phr3d13> still trying to get support for a vt6410 pci raid/ide card
[20:54] <MACscr> so somehow when adding my ubuntu user to another group and then removing that group, i no longer have access to do anything with sudo. Keeps saying my password is wrong. Any ideas? I only belong to the same group name as my username right now. Should i belong to something else as well?
[20:54] <vooze> kazagistar: yeah i know.. but with ubuntu going gnome3 / unity, it becomes "harder"
[20:55] <doritos> hey
[20:55] <Phr3d13> MACscr, do you have caps lock or num lock on?
[20:55] <glebihan> MACscr, your user should be in the "sudo" group
[20:56] <Jordan_U> glebihan: It's the "admin", not "sudo", group.
[20:57] <zykotick9> glebihan, using my crystal ball - i bet you use Debian ;)
[20:58] <glebihan> zykotick9, nope, using Ubuntu
[20:58] <tkeith> How do I know if this Kernel vulnerability affects me? I've never heard of DCCP. "Dan Rosenberg discovered that the DCCP stack did not correctly handle certain packet structures. A remote attacker could exploit this to crash the system, leading to a denial of service. (CVE-2011-1770)"
[20:58] <glebihan> Jordan_U, my user is actually part of both "admin" and "sudo" groups
[20:58] <e_t_> Both admin and sudo groups have sudo access.
[20:59] <guntbert> MACscr: your user should be in admin, adm, and several others as well
[20:59] <Phr3d13> still trying to get support for a vt6410 pci raid/ide card
[20:59] <guntbert> MACscr: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo for restoring your access
[21:00] <doritos> Does anyone have any experience whipping up terminfo files?
[21:00] <disinpho> anyone know where i can get json-rpc? the svn is down
[21:01] <iceroot> disinpho: the repo?
[21:01] <iceroot> disinpho: apt-cache search searchstring   then use apt-get install packagename
[21:02] <disinpho> iceroot: it doesnt appar amont the results as far as i can tell
[21:02] <disinpho> appear
[21:03] <disinpho> its python-jsonrpc im looking for
[21:04] <glebihan> disinpho, maybe http://pypi.python.org/pypi/z3c.jsonrpc#downloads
[21:04] <adrian15> glebihan: What does it say:  id youruser   ?
[21:04] <Phr3d13> disinpho, looks like they were looking for maintainers, maybe it took too long http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cIL_KLTYj-0J:json-rpc.org/+json-rpc&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com
[21:05] <xleelz> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 2 and tried to install gnome-shell so I could use the gnome 3 interface but it says that there are unmet dependencies and broken packages... what should I do?
[21:05] <jrib> !oneric | xleelz
[21:05] <glebihan> adrian15, why do you ask ?
[21:05] <disinpho> Phr3d13: hm, not good - i cant find any mirrors
[21:06] <iceroot> disinpho: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/python-simplejson  i know this is using rpc
[21:06] <adrian15> glebihan: That command says in which groups is the user.
[21:06] <iceroot> disinpho: does debian have the package you are looking for or why do you know the name of the source-package?
[21:06] <glebihan> adrian15, yes I know
[21:07] <adrian15> glebihan: Can you confirm that admin and sudo groups are in its output ?
[21:07] <disinpho> iceroot: theres a package called python-transmissionrpc but i dont know if its the same
[21:07] <godofmischief> Ive created a gparted live boot cd.  Booted to the CD (actually usb stick) .  Trying to resize the local win7 partition on the host drive.  When i boot to gparted its got the little caution triangle near the device name and won't let me resize it.  Can anyone tell me why this is?
[21:07] <glebihan> adrian15, yep
[21:07] <adrian15> glebihan: Can you pastebin /etc/sudoers content ?
[21:08] <glebihan> disinpho, no python-transmissionrpc is related to transmission (torrent application)
[21:08] <glebihan> adrian15, why ? I don't have any issues
[21:09] <doritos> does anyone know of a way to get my serial terminal to go bigger than 80x24?
[21:09] <Zdisiu55> or are they less than greater
[21:09] <adrian15> glebihan: Didn't you say that you wasn't able to use any of the sudo capabilities?
[21:09] <Zdisiu55> or use minadrian15be if its just for youutube
[21:10] <glebihan> adrian15, no I was trying to help MACscr, who had issues
[21:10] <adrian15> glebihan: Ok, sorry! :). The questions were for MACscr then.
[21:10] <glebihan> adrian15, no problem
[21:10] <Paddy_NI> Is there any way to manually remove entries from the messaging menu?
[21:11] <Jordan_U> godofmischief: This channel doesn't suppor the GParted LiveCD. Can you try an Ubuntu LiveCD? (Ubuntu liveCDs come with GParted).
[21:11] <jgordon_> ssh problem: can connect fine on command line, but not via same user's cron. getting error: "Host key verification failed." any idea what i can try?
[21:11] <Zdisiu55> a command to our faithfull channel bot jgordon_
[21:11] <iceroot> jgordon_: is cron using the same user as your try from the cli?
[21:11] <jnsl_> whats the commandline to start compiz manager ? :-)
[21:12] <glebihan> jnsl_, ccsm
[21:12] <jnsl_> ahh thats why couldent find it :-P
[21:12] <jnsl_> thanks
[21:12] <jgordon_> iceroot: yes, i believe so. am running, as the same user, crontab -e
[21:12] <glebihan> jnsl_, you're welcome
[21:13] <iceroot> jgordon_: and you have copied your public-key to the remote-host?
[21:13] <Gnitset> hi, i have a lvm on a mdraid and /var is a lv in that. when i boot i have to choose to manyaly mount it and run vgchange -ay before i can mount /var. how can i do this automaticaly "the ubuntu way"?
[21:13] <jgordon_> iceroot: yes. can ssh and rsync from the command line via passwordless login no problem.
[21:14] <iceroot> jgordon_: what does /var/log/auth on the remote-system say about your cron-logins?
[21:14] <iceroot> jgordon_: also you can use ssh -vvv user@host  to have a better debuging
[21:15] <jgordon_> iceroot: have bumped up -vvv and it still just indicates key failure
[21:15] <jnsl_> is it possible that all programs opened from the terminal start a new session? or is it easier to just make an alias for the ones i use the most with setsid?
[21:16] <Zdisiu55> try it will start with some ugly default
[21:16] <jnsl_> Ohh i see :-P
[21:17] <iceroot> jgordon_: the remote-host is saying that?
[21:18] <jgordon_> iceroot: accessing...
[21:18] <obert> installing ubuntu 6..
[21:18] <Zdisiu55> ubuntu
[21:20] <Jordan_U> obert: Ubuntu 6.06 and 6.10 have both been EOL for a long time. Why are you trying to install an obsolete version of Ubuntu?
[21:20] <jgordon_> iceroot: here's what the remote host is logging: http://pastebin.com/F5K3FHtQ
[21:20] <Zdisiu55> : http
[21:20] <askhader> Oh lol, I'm still in this channel
[21:20] <obert> Jordan_U: cause it is the only one cd i got
[21:20] <Zdisiu55> from one corner to another, uh huh
[21:21] <adrian15> jgordon_: Why don't you run: id > /tmp/test.txt   instead ? So that you check what user is running the command.
[21:21] <Jordan_U> obert: Then I suggest you get another CD somehow. Or install via USB or other methods.
[21:21] <iceroot> jgordon_: and you are using the same command on cli as in cron?
[21:21] <Zdisiu55> /home and other such assignments
[21:21] <obert> Jordan_U: i'll see what i'll get now
[21:21] <obert> would be interesting at least
[21:22] <Jordan_U> obert: OK, but don't expect support for it here and know that among other things it's very insecure as it hasn't had security updates in ages.
[21:23] <Escherial> so indeed, the multimonitor bug where dead space appears under your shorter window is documented: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20334
[21:23] <obert> Jordan_U: old pc old hd no data
[21:23] <Escherial> it's apparently an issue with x that has been fixed as of late...? i'm not sure how to interpret the second to last comment on that page
[21:23] <Zdisiu55> editor and an ide
[21:23] <jnsl_> im trying out xubuntu, how would i eg. launch gedit without using the default alias
[21:23] <jnsl_> yes i have installed gedit :)
[21:23] <Escherial> i'm using ubuntu 11.04; i'm not sure how to obtain the newest version of xserver (or even if it's available)
[21:24] <Jordan_U> obert: Don't let it send out spam when it gets compromised.
[21:24] <obert> Jordan_U: also i think i get only a 256MB pen usb drive,so in any cases i couldnt do anything more good tonight
[21:24] <obert> Jordan_U: updates shouldnt works at all?
[21:24] <Escherial> if anyone's feeling generous enough to interpret that second to last comment for me, i'd be very grateful :)
[21:24] <obert> shouldnt fix something,at least
[21:25] <Zdisiu55> minEscherialbe if its just for youutube
[21:25] <Jordan_U> obert: You can easily fit the Ubuntu netinstaller in 256 MiB.
[21:25] <obert> Jordan_U: dont remember,i'll check something
[21:25] <obert> Jordan_U: but as a try,i didnt see all those security issues
[21:25] <obert> Jordan_U: better crossing fingers :P
[21:25] <Escherial> Zdisiu55: :)?
[21:26] <Zdisiu55> message about flash | obert : how ?
[21:26] <obert> Zdisiu55: ?
[21:26] <jgordon_> iceroot: running the command from a script. just added the id command you suggested to the script. same output whether it's run from cli or via cron
[21:26] <Jordan_U> Escherial: Why do you want the newest version of Xorg?
[21:26] <Zdisiu55> why there isn't you say that
[21:26] <adrian15> obert: I have tried this same afternoon to update an ubuntu 606 and even after apt-get update packages got 404. So better not use u606.
[21:27] <obert> adrian15: bah :P
[21:27] <iceroot> jgordon_: and without id? a normal ssh connection is working?
[21:28] <jgordon_> iceroot: sorry, i don't understand the question? ssh/rsync work from command line, not from cron.
[21:28] <adrian15> jgordon_: What have you got inside /tmp/test.txt file ?
[21:28] <Escherial> Jordan_U: because the current one has a bug where there's a "dead zone" under my primary monitor due to the fact that my secondary monitor is higher
[21:28] <Escherial> er, longer?
[21:28] <iceroot> jgordon_: i thought you are running something like * * * * * user ssh user@host;id
[21:28] <jgordon_> adrian15: uid=503(maa) gid=503(maa) groups=503(maa)
[21:29] <Escherial> the height is greater, in any case. X creates a bounding box to represent the displayable area, leading to the aforementioned dead zone into which your mouse and tooltips will spill
[21:29] <cli04> hi, hot to replace \ to empty on sed command please?
[21:29] <cli04> how*
[21:29] <jgordon_> iceroot: that fails as well
[21:29] <mi6ail1234> Greetings...I want to ask you how can i update my Java version?
[21:29] <adrian15> jgordon_: Is that user that has to connect to the other machine ?
[21:29] <saruji> i told shotwell phot manager to "always perform this action" when i plugged in my camera and now it does it nonstop, anyways to shut this off?
[21:29] <Escherial> suppoesdly it's fixed in the newest version of X (at least according to that thread about the bug)
[21:29] <iceroot> jgordon_: can you post exactly what commands you are using?
[21:29] <obert> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD  32Bit Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" Minimal CD
[21:29] <jgordon_> adrian15: yes.
[21:29] <obert> for instance?
[21:29] <Escherial> Jordan_U: enough information? :)
[21:30] <jnsl_> sudo apt-get install gedit, where is the executable saved ?
[21:30] <jgordon_> iceroot: apparently it works if -o "StrictHostKeyChecking=no" as an ssh option
[21:30] <cli04> hi guys, how to replace \ to empty on sed command please?
[21:30] <glebihan> jnsl_, /usr/bin/gedit
[21:30] <jgordon_> iceroot: i'm working with someone else and he just said he discovered that
[21:30] <jgordon_> iceroot: trying now...
[21:30] <jnsl_> thanks glebihan :9
[21:30] <jnsl_> :)
[21:30] <doritos> I'm running a vt220 emulator on an amiga connected to my PC's serial port. It works fine except it only uses 80x24 when the screen is much bigger. I've decompiled the vt220 terminfo file and edited it, but I can't get tic to compile it again. Someone please stop me from going bald?
[21:30] <glebihan> jnsl_, you're welcome
[21:31] <adrian15> jgordon_: Can I take a look at the pastebin of the crontab? That's very strange that it does work in cli and not in crontab.
[21:31] <MACscr> adrian15 and guntbert: so what is the list of groups my user should be part of?
[21:31] <mi6ail1234> Anyone?
[21:32] <adrian15> MACscr: Usually for sudo capabilites you need the admin group.
[21:32] <Gnitset> cli04: sed -e  's_\\__'
[21:32] <obert> anyway it was good times when ubuntu 6, i received it via mail
[21:32] <MACscr> adrian15: but someone mentioned gdm as well. So i figured there might be a few
[21:33] <mi6ail1234> How can i update my Java version?
[21:34] <adrian15> MACscr: I don't have an ubuntu system at hand to give you the default groups. Anyways...
[21:34] <iceroot> mi6ail1234: update with security-updates or a major-update?
[21:34] <jgordon_> adrian15: iceroot: okay, so turning StrictHostKeyChecking off seems to have worked
[21:34] <adrian15> MACscr: Unless you have opened as root the user utility you won't be able to recover admin group and thus do anything like root... till you boot from a live cd, chroot as a root, and add your user to the usual groups.
[21:35] <jgordon_> iceroot: adrian15: by why?
[21:35] <MACscr> adrian15: right, but i cant add myself to those groups until i know what they are =P
[21:36] <adrian15> jgordon_: If you had already accepted the destination as a trusted one the cron should not complain. I do not understand it either.
[21:36] <glebihan> MACscr, could you pastebin your /etc/sudoers file ?
[21:36] <adrian15> MACscr: Sorry I don't have an Ubuntu system at hand.
[21:36] <MACscr> glebihan: nope, i dont have access to it yet
[21:37] <mi6ail1234> iceroot, There is no security updates right now...but in official Java website it has a new version
[21:37] <iceroot> mi6ail1234: you will never get a newer version withing a ubuntu-release, just security-updates
[21:37] <iceroot> mi6ail1234: why do you need a newer version?
[21:37] <Monotoko> is there anything wrong with booting into an old kernel...security wise? My wifi seems to randomly drop on the newest version
[21:38] <cli04> Gnitset: i dont undestand this
[21:38] <glebihan> MACscr, ok... by checking mine, I would say that either the "sudo" or the "admin" group should be enough
[21:38] <cli04> Gnitset: the syntax not is sed s/old/new/g old.txt < new.txt
[21:38] <MACscr> glebihan: or? do you have both?
[21:39] <mi6ail1234> because it makes sometimes problems...with internet java applications....and they say that is safer and recommend to update
[21:39] <iceroot> !backports | mi6ail1234
[21:39] <iceroot> mi6ail1234: that is imo the best way to get newer versions
[21:39] <glebihan> MACscr, I do have both, the difference being that the "sudo" group allows to execute commands as root, whereas the "admin" group allows to gain root privileges
[21:40] <antlong> hello, how do you sort ls like this: 1, 2,3,100,200, 210,300 (instead of 1, 100, 2, 200, 210, 3, 300)
[21:40] <mi6ail1234> Is there some way to update via "apt-get" command?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> antlong: What is your end goal?
[21:40] <antlong> 1,2,3,100...
[21:40] <glebihan> mi6ail1234, what do you want to update ?
[21:41] <mi6ail1234> glebihan, Java
[21:41] <Monotoko> mi6ail1234, put the ubuntu backports sources into /etc/apt/sources.lst and then you can
[21:42] <Monotoko> mi6ail1234, is there any particular reason you want to update...like an application going wrong?
[21:42] <mi6ail1234> Thank you...i will do
[21:42] <mi6ail1234> yes that's the reason
[21:42] <mi6ail1234> but not always happen
[21:43] <Jordan_U> antlong: "1,2,3,100" is not an end goal. I assume you are actually trying to accomplish something useful. What is it?
[21:43] <mi6ail1234> and from "Oracle" says that in newer version is fixed some serious bugs
[21:43] <antlong> Jordan_U i want to ssh to a remote box
[21:44] <Jordan_U> antlong: What does that have to do with ls or sorting numbers?
[21:44] <antlong> obviously i want to sort a folders contents by numerical order when i ls
[21:44] <glebihan> antlong, "ls -v" should do the trick
[21:45] <antlong> glebihan ty :)
[21:45] <Jordan_U> antlong: Is this part of a script or do you really just want to view the output?
[21:45] <glebihan> antlong, you're welcome
[21:45] <jgordon_> iceroot: adrian15: so the server i'm ssh'ing is listening on port 222
[21:45] <rcmaehl> Hey in sound properties what is a 2.1 sound system listed as?
[21:45] <iceroot> jgordon_: ssh -p 222 user@host
[21:46] <jgordon_> iceroot: adrian15: btw, am i properly messaging both of you? this is a new irc client for me.
[21:46] <Gh0Sty11k> how can i install google chrome on ubuntu?
[21:46] <jgordon_> iceroot: right, that's what i've been doing
[21:46] <maco> antlong: ls | sort -g
[21:46] <adrian15> jgordon_: Well, yes, a public messaging. We are both hightlighted I suppose.
[21:46] <antlong> ls -v works
[21:46] <antlong> ty though maco
[21:47] <jgordon_> adrian15: iceroot: but when i turned off stricthostkeychecking, i noticed that it seems i have two entries in known_hosts. one with the port, one without. i believe the one without the port was created via cron once i turned off stricthostkeychecking.
[21:47] <rcmaehl> Hey in sound properties, hardware tab, under settings for the selected device, what is a 2.1 sound system listed as?
[21:47] <mikubuntu> going crazy with this printer (hp deskjet f4480) ... can't get it to PRINT!!! heres the error log on PASTEBIN :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/643548/ could anyone help me decipher please!
[21:48] <adrian15> jgordon_: If you want to avoid the strict hosting switch you might try to run it as a root and then use su - c to try to do the same thing. But I do not know if it is worth.
[21:48] <alex_____> Gh0Sty11k: just go to www.google.com/chrome
[21:48] <Gh0Sty11k> i downloaded it but it does not do anything when i run the package#
[21:48] <adrian15> jgordon_: Ah, yes,.. Once the strickhostkeychecking is removed the exception persists at the known_host file.
[21:49] <glebihan> Gh0Sty11k, what do you mean by "run the package" ?
[21:49] <jnsl_> can i somehow add a terminal to startup programs :D
[21:49] <antlong> mikubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=9ff724ce3f346b8604bf2a39cfa385ff&p=4860984&postcount=2
[21:49] <Gh0Sty11k> the file google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb downloads to my download directory but will not run when i double click to install it
[21:49] <glebihan> Gh0Sty11k, you should install the version from the repositories, the package name is "chromium-browser"
[21:50] <adrian15> jgordon_: I suppose that you will get the same effect if you connected to the ip directly to it. Maybe your CLI tests were not geared towards 222 port ?
[21:50] <Gh0Sty11k> i noticed it wasnt quite the same so wanted google chrome
[21:50] <jgordon_> adrian15: cli tests definitely had -p 222
[21:50] <Gh0Sty11k> why wont it install?
[21:50] <jgordon_> adrian15: won't work on port 22
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Gh0Sty11k: What does happen when you double click the file?
[21:50] <Gh0Sty11k> a little spinner thing appears and goes off
[21:51] <Gh0Sty11k> then nothing happens
[21:51] <alex_____> what is the difference between google chrome and the chromium browser?
[21:51] <glebihan> Gh0Sty11k, ok then run "sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb" from the folder where the file is located
[21:51] <mikubuntu> antlong, thx ... checking it out
[21:51] <adrian15> jgordon_: And when you were in the CLI did you say that you accepted the exception when it prompted to you or did you always answered no ?
[21:53] <mikubuntu> antlong, do you have to log in to view ubuntuforums pages now?? won't let me view that pagelink ...
[21:55] <glebihan> alex_____, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[21:55] <jgordon_> adrian15: when i ran from command line, i had no problems
[21:55] <adrian15> jgordon_: The first time it should have asked if you trusted in destination!
[21:55] <Gh0Sty11k> says errors were encountered during processing
[21:55] <rcmaehl> -_- no one here has a 2.1 or better sound system. wow
[21:56] <jgordon_> adrian15: sorry, yes. it asks and i confirm. i see "exception" and i think error
[21:56] <glebihan> Gh0Sty2k, could you pastebin the error message ?
[21:56] <adrian15> jgordon_: But, well, if it was not going to work, just adding the nostrictcecking option when running from cron was the way to go
[21:56] <adrian15> jgordon_: And just after that removing it
[21:57] <adrian15> jgordon_: Maybe the problem was that you reinstalled os on destination ?
[21:58] <jgordon_> adrian15: i suppose so. i guess i'm confused why running from cron doesn't include the port information in the known_hosts entry but running from cli does. that seems to be the crux of the problem.
[21:59] <adrian15> jgordon_: But now... it does work... isn't it ?
[21:59] <ralnaemi> Can I set up a RAID using mdadm after an installation?
[21:59] <adrian15> jgordon_: I mean you the known_hosts is updated it should work from cron without the nostricthostchecking option.
[21:59] <ralnaemi> installation = installation of the OS
[22:00] <antlong> mikubuntu probably
[22:00] <jgordon_> adrian15: yes, i agree. it would be nice to not have to worry about this port issue in the future with different cron setups.
[22:00] <Jambesboo> hello, I am fairly new to Ubuntu, althought I have had no probelm installing int recently on my laptop....and I have been running it for the past few days
[22:01] <Jambesboo> but I cannot figure out hwo to get utorrent installed and ownload my torrents
[22:01] <adrian15> jgordon_: You can buy a certificate for your destination server :)
[22:01] <jgordon_> adrian15: b/c if known_hosts gets blown away or horked in the future, i'm screwed again. unless i always have it ignore strict
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Jambesboo: Ubuntu comes with a torrent client by default called "Transmision".
[22:02] <Jambesboo> oh nice
[22:02] <Jambesboo> so i can just download torrents from kickasstorrents?
[22:02] <antlong> Jambesboo are you chris hansen
[22:02] <`blackmk4> how would i bridge four network ports onto another oirt
[22:02] <F3RR1S> anyone know of an application to convert videos for android phone?
[22:03] <`blackmk4> port*
[22:03] <Jordan_U> Jambesboo: I know nothing about that particular site, but you should be able to just double click .torrent files (or use magnet links) with no problem.
[22:03] <psyk0> Jambesboo, yes you can, but take deluge is better (apt-ge install deluge)
[22:03] <Jambesboo> yes, nice, wow, i didnt know
[22:03] <Jambesboo> haha
[22:03] <Jambesboo> yes, i finally stopped using windoze
[22:03] <Jambesboo> and now im on ubuntu
[22:03] <Jambesboo> thanks
[22:03] <Jordan_U> !ot | antlong
[22:03] <Jordan_U> Jambesboo: You're welcome :)
[22:03] <glebihan> F3RR1S, ffmpeg should work but I don't know which format is required for Android
[22:04] <F3RR1S> thanks glebihan ... I can play most formats... avi works well
[22:05] <superjoe> so has the ubuntu team decided to go back to gnome yet?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> superjoe: they never left gnome...
[22:05] <superjoe> ubuntu-desktop depends on unity.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> !ot | superjoe
[22:06] <tertl3> unity needs a better menu
[22:06] <F3RR1S> yeah... but i just removed the desktop and installed gnome
[22:06] <F3RR1S> works well
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> superjoe: yes, unity is a SHELL. It runs in the Gnome desktop and uses Compiz as the default window manager
[22:06] <superjoe> Jordan_U, where is the appropriate place to discuss the direction Ubuntu is headed?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> superjoe: if you think unity is a DE you are wrong
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> superjoe: you can run unity in LXDE if you want and use openbox as the window manager
[22:07] <Jordan_U> superjoe: #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:07] <superjoe> reeeeeally?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> superjoe: yes
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> superjoe: don't worry, its a common misconception
[22:08] <alex_____> what's the most secure browser on linux?
[22:08] <rcmaehl> w3m
[22:08] <antlong> alex_____ lynx
[22:08] <burner> lol
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> alex_____: browsers are as secure as you make them
[22:08] <glebihan> antlong, was going to say that too :)
[22:08] <antlong> heh
[22:08] <alex_____> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[22:10] <Phr3d13> how do i get my default ubuntu logon window back? without it i can't select gnome classic
[22:10] <ozstriker> #ubuntu.it
[22:10] <alex_____> antlong: I mean one that has a GUI
[22:10] <ozzloy> how do i check what depends on an automatically installed package?
[22:11] <wabznasm> Phr3d13: turn off auto-login (login without password) ?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> ozzloy: apt-cache rdepends package
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> alex_____: you can run any browser badly and with poor settings and it will be unsecure
[22:11] <Phr3d13> before i upgraded i had installed xubuntu/xfce, but since i rebooted after an upgrade the ubuntu gdm login screen appears to be from xfce
[22:12] <antlong> alex_____ this is what you need, http://d.pr/GH8d
[22:12] <ozzloy> Jordan_U, that gives too many things, and some aren't even installed
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> alex_____: like running firefox with everything allowed as root with no prompts for anything is massively foolhardy. This has no bearing on the quality of the browser
[22:12] <ozzloy> Jordan_U, is there a way to get the actual package i installed at some point that had some other package as a dependency?
[22:13] <Jordan_U> ozzloy: "aptitude why packagename" might be what you want.
[22:13] <alex_____> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[22:14] <aj00200> I'm having problems with NTSC video. When I run my cameras output through a Dazzle USB converter to my laptop (Ubuntu 11.04) using NTSC video, it is black and white with a green bar at the bottom. When I use PAL, it works fine. NTSC is color in windows. Anyone know how to fix this?
[22:15] <ozzloy> Jordan_U, hmm... a smaller list, and all things that are actually installed, but some automatically.  i guess this is good enough for now
[22:17] <FriGiN> Jordan_U: whats goin on buddy boy.
[22:18] <ozzloy> Jordan_U, thanks!
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> breath: running an irc client as root isn't very wise
[22:21] <Jordan_U> ozzloy: You're welcome.
[22:21] <billy2007> how do i remove an os from om virtual box
[22:21] <Jordan_U> FriGiN: ?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: delete the virtualbox in the virtualbox app. If you don't need the drive image you can use the drive amanger and delete it from there
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: this will destroy the data so be very sure this is what you want
[22:22] <billy2007> will it delete them if i remove the whole program
[22:22] <FriGiN> Jordan_U: the stuff we did the other night ended up being able to see the grub, however there was nothing on the drive like i thought. os i killed the drive and all of that and im back to 100% windows, if you are still game i'll bring laptop in here and we can step/step it to see if we can get ubu workin.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: no, the settings folder is in your home folder and will stay. You can delete ~/Virtualbox VMs and ~/.Virtualbox   and it will remove ALL the virtualboxes and ALL the settings
[22:23] <breath> fff
[22:23] <obert> mmm how to format a hd? :P
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> obert: use gparted
[22:24] <billy2007> ActionParsnip, could you help me do that is there a terminal command i could use
[22:24] <lorina-> hi
[22:24] <usr13> obert: Depends on what filesystem you want to use.
[22:24] <obert> ActionParsnip: seems i cannot since i'm runnin ubuntu 6
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: do you want to remove virtualbox and all virtualboxes in entirety?
[22:24] <obert> i would to clean up this installation and redo it from mini.iso
[22:24] <usr13> obert: You have to pick a filesystem type first.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> obert: ubuntu 6.xx is no longer supported
[22:24] <Jordan_U> FriGiN: I'm only intermittently avaiable right now. In about 4 hours would be better.
[22:25] <FriGiN> Jordan_U: absolutely cool
[22:25] <lorina-> hi
[22:25] <mikubuntu> heeeellllp. i can't get to this page suggested on ubuntuforums http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=9ff724ce3f346b8604bf2a39cfa385ff&p=4860984&postcount=2  ... launchpad won't let me see the page without loggin in, and it won't let me log in.  asked what color was an orange, i said orange, and launchpad says thats an incorrect answer
[22:25] <glebihan> obert, you'll be able to format during installation (using gparted)
[22:25] <obert> usr13: pick in which terms?
[22:25] <antlong> billy2007 how did you install it?
[22:25] <Jordan_U> obert: The minimal installer will allow you to format the drive as part of the install process.
[22:25] <usr13> obert: You have to fromat a partition with a particular filesystem type.
[22:26] <mikubuntu> going crazy with this printer (hp deskjet f4480) ... can't get it to PRINT!!! heres the error log on PASTEBIN :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/643548/ could anyone help me decipher please!
[22:26] <obert> glebihan: it looks like that when i launch the machine, press f8 to choice to start from usb pen drive instead hd, and then dont expect to see ubuntu 6 launchin itself, it wont to go to usb pen drive
[22:26] <billy2007> ActionParsnip, yes
[22:26] <obert> people: no idea :P
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: open your home folder and you will see the virtualbox vms folder
[22:27] <obert> i should had remember that mini.iso is what i needed
[22:27] <billy2007> ActionParsnip, right ive deleted that
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: delete that then press CTRL+H and delete the virtualbox folder you now see. You can then use software centre to uninstall the application
[22:31] <billy2007> thanks for that is there a linux virtual machine i can install .img files on
[22:31] <roasted> Is it possible to sync playlists in Exaile? I can't seem to figure it out.
[22:33] <jcowan> I am running karmic on a CoLinux kernel, and I'd like to dist-upgrade to Lucid.  Is it safe to do so?  The kernel is held back during normal upgrade, but I don't know if dist-upgrade respects that.
[22:33] <glebihan> mikubuntu, I copied the page you wanted to see : http://paste.ubuntu.com/643576/
[22:34] <usr13> obert: It is also important to note that you don't format a hard drive, you format a partition.  See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/643578/
[22:35] <obert> bit confused now
[22:36] <mikubuntu> glebihan: thx... what a strange thing with this webchat.freenode also. i have to switch from this channel to another and back again if i lose my cursor,  strange behavior.
[22:38] <lorina-> hi, i need some help with ubuntu one which shows a window with this error message: http://goo.gl/NuJyu could someone help me?
[22:39] <saruji> hello, how can i automount an NTFS partition on startup?
[22:40] <usr13> obert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[22:40] <saruji> !autostart
[22:40] <rewt> saruji, add it to /etc/fstab
[22:40] <glebihan> saruji, you'll have to add it to fstab
[22:40] <saruji> rewt, glebihan is there an easier way?
[22:40] <saruji> rewt, glebihan maybe using a gui?
[22:40] <usr13> saruji: Create a mount point and put an entry in /etc/fstab for it
[22:40] <rewt> what's uneasy about that?
[22:41] <saruji> usr13, i'm not sure how to create a mount point, how does linux mount partitions?... in a folder?
[22:41] <saruji> confused
[22:41] <Jordan_U> !fstab | saruji
[22:41] <lorina-> could someone help me with http://goo.gl/NuJyu ?
[22:41] <saruji> !partition
[22:41] <saruji> !partitions
[22:41] <usr13> saruji: Yea, just create a directory   wich will be your mount point.  Pick a name and place that will make since for it's content.
[22:42] <rewt> you create a mount point by creating a directory for it, then mount the partition as that dir
[22:42] <Tyler1234> Hey does anyone know how to make a ssh login server, pretty much I need a server that is connected to the internet and has ports forwarded. Once you login to that server you can acces other SSH servers on the network? Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:42] <glebihan> saruji, I don't think there's a gui for that, but editing the fstab is file is not complicated
[22:42] <glebihan> saruji : follow the informations in the above links
[22:42] <saruji> glebihan, ok, just would feel safer if i was to use a gui
[22:42] <saruji> glebihan, ok
[22:42] <saruji> glebihan, ok thanks
[22:42] <glebihan> saruji, you're welcome
[22:43] <areels> i need help for a weird thing
[22:43] <glebihan> !ot | lorina-
[22:43] <areels> the help i need is figuring out what i have to search
[22:43] <lorina-> okay
[22:43] <usr13> saruji: You can use gksudo gedit to edit /etc/fstab (if you want GUI).
[22:43] <glebihan> usr13, ...
[22:44] <Tyler1234> Would my question be considered off topic?
[22:44] <Tyler1234> Hey does anyone know how to make a ssh login server, pretty much I need a server that is connected to the internet and has ports forwarded. Once you login to that server you can acces other SSH servers on the network? Does anyone have any ideas?
[22:44] <jcowan> Or mine?
[22:44] <usr13> saruji: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab    #When you are ready to create the fstab entry.
[22:45] <usr13> glebihan: Yes?
[22:45] <glebihan> usr13, nothing, just didn't think gedit was the kind of gui he was looking for ;)
[22:46] <usr13> glebihan: If you have a better suggestion, chime in.
[22:46] <glebihan> usr13, I don't, as I told him
[22:46] <WalrusEgg> test
[22:46] <usr13> glebihan: Ok, thanks  tho
[22:47] <WalrusEgg> The disk utility is showing that I have 4932 bad sectors, is that too many? should I be worrying?
[22:47] <usr13> WalrusEgg: YOu whould worry
[22:47] <Hilikus> hey guys
[22:47] <usr13> WalrusEgg: How big is the drive?  (How many sectors all together.
[22:48] <usr13> Hilikus: hey
[22:48] <WalrusEgg> is a 500gb one, how do i know how many sectors?
[22:48] <usr13> Hilikus: ... what about the gals?
[22:48] <Hilikus> when i put my netbook on hibernation and restart it the video is all screwed up, there are rows of pixels on the top that start to slowly fill the screen, and on the right side i can see a piece of the real image but flickering
[22:48] <harald_> hello. My passport hdd are rebooting every ten sec, I wan't to copy all my picture and music to another one. eny one know how to write something in the terminal? so i don't have to sit here and hit retry every time the hdd reboots?
[22:49] <Hilikus> user13, guys is the common plural for both genders
[22:49] <usr13> WalrusEgg: sudo fdisk -l
[22:49] <anthony_> What does a solid state drive say about the dead sectors that reside among the extra portion it keeps for wear leveling?
[22:49] <usr13> Hilikus: o
[22:50] <chelz> harald_:   for i in {1..50}; do rsync -aPHAXS /media/passporthdd/ /where/you/want/contents/to/go; done
[22:51] <chelz> harald_: it will run that command 50 times
[22:51] <WalrusEgg> usr13: assuming i divide the total bytes by the sector size, i have 976,773,168 sectors
[22:51] <Apocryphic> Anyone installed 11.04 on a PowerEdge 1855?  Having strange drive issues with the PERC4/IM.
[22:51] <xubuntero> come si usa il monitor rete in xubuntu????
[22:52] <rww> !it | xubuntero
[22:52] <xubuntero> eh ragazzi
[22:52] <w30> Hilikus, I read a discussion on that the other day and the conclusion was the Irish slang "em" for non-gender
[22:53] <harald_> chelz it's 76000 files. can i write like 1000 times?
[22:53] <chelz> harald_: it'll only do what's changed. so if it's done, it'll just check like 40 times
[22:53] <jose> hola
[22:53] <chelz> jose: beinvenidos
[22:53] <GridCube> !es | jose
[22:54] <usr13> WalrusEgg: never trust a computer
[22:54] <jose> ok grax
[22:54] <jose> solo probaba un programa que instale
[22:54] <usr13> WalrusEgg: Backup often
[22:54] <harald_> chelz ok thank you!
[22:54] <RedNifre> hi!
[22:54] <RedNifre> Is it possible to set the audio output to mono instead of stereo?
[22:54] <RedNifre> (just temporarily)
[22:55] <RedNifre> Or is there a video player that can play the audio of a video file in mono?
[22:55] <usr13> RedNifre: Usually, that's done by the media player.  Or it's done at recrod time.
[22:56] <RedNifre> Which media player can do this?
[22:56] <WalrusEgg> usr13: does this mean that i have about 2.5MB of bad sectors?
[22:57] <usr13> RedNifre: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/MPlayer.html#advaudio-channels-mono
[22:57] <Snarsh> can't vlc do the same?
[22:57] <RedNifre> I can't find the setting in VLC :/
[22:57] <billy2007> RedNifre, i beleive mplayer can do that
[22:58] <Hilikus> when i put my netbook on hibernation and restart it the video is all screwed up, there are rows of pixels on the top that start to slowly fill the screen, and on the right side i can see a piece of the real image but flickering
[22:58] <usr13> Snarsh: Yes.  --mono forces VLC to treat the stream in mono audio.
[22:59] <saliak> I wrote an init.d script that runs when invoked manually (suggesting permissions are set correctly, and the daemon i wrote works, but doesn't run at boot time.  any suggestions of what could be going on or how to debug?
[22:59] <RedNifre> Okay, guess I'll try starting vlc from the command line then...
[22:59] <usr13> RedNifre: http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Play_HowTo/Advanced_Use_of_VLC
[23:00] <RedNifre> Thank you very much, I'll try that.
[23:01] <usr13> WalrusEgg: All Hard Drives have bad sectors, but if that nuber increses continually, you can be sure the drive is starting to fail.
[23:02] <billy2007> i was downloading a torrent through vuze i accidentally closed it now it wont open any ideas
[23:02] <glisstech> I have a question - I am a bit of an Ubuntu noob
[23:02] <chelz> glisstech: go ahead and ask :)
[23:02] <glisstech> so I let update manager install updates last night and rebooted
[23:02] <chelz> billy2007: vuze won't open or the torrent won't open?
[23:02] <glisstech> and now the gui interactions on my natty install are all weird
[23:02] <billy2007> chelz, vuze
[23:03] <chelz> billy2007: try opening up a terminal and running vuze from there to see if you get any helpful error messages
[23:03] <glisstech> how can I find the list of updates, or even just uninstall the entire latest round of updates?
[23:03] <billy2007> chelz,  what command would i use
[23:03] <chelz> billy2007: (without the quote) either "azureus" or "vuze"
[23:03] <iceroot> glisstech: you cant uninstall the latest updates (only when removing the whole package)
[23:04] <odinsbane> glisstech: did you check to see if all the updates were successfully installed?
[23:04] <iceroot> glisstech: there should be /var/log/dpkg.log  which will show you the last updates which where installed
[23:04] <billy2007> it says its already running is there a way to close it from terminal
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> glisstech: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[23:04] <glisstech> thx iceroot
[23:04] <usr13> glisstech: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/  #Newest will be listed last.  Notice the dates.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> billy2007: kill the service in terminal then
[23:05] <chelz> billy2007: pkill azureus
[23:05] <odinsbane> billy2007: yes, you can kill processes from the terminal
[23:05] <chelz> billy2007: also     pkill -9 azureus
[23:05] <usr13> glisstech: As ActionParsnip points out  sudo apt-get -f install  may solve this problem for you.
[23:06] <zykotick9> billy2007, start without using the -9, only use that if regular kill doesn't work.
[23:06] <chelz> billy2007: sounds like azureus crashed but kept running. in the future you can kill from the terminal, or log out and log back in, or reboot
[23:06] <chelz> billy2007: seconding what zykotick9 said
[23:06] <billy2007> i think thats my best option thanks
[23:07] <billy2007> whats the command to restart shell
[23:07] <usr13> billy2007: You mean to restart the Xserver?
[23:08] <chelz> billy2007: well you could restart x/gnome but killing from the terminal should work
[23:08] <mikubuntu> glebihan, thanks, but what you posted is only rendering as html code, can't really make any sense out of it
[23:08] <usr13> Ctrl-Alt-F6 and then  sudo service gdm restart
[23:09] <odinsbane> billy2007: did you get it to work?  You shouldn't need to log out of x to kill a process.
[23:09] <mikubuntu> is there by any chance a linux printing channel that anyone knows of?
[23:09] <mikubuntu> going crazy with this printer (hp deskjet f4480) ... can't get it to PRINT!!! heres the error log on PASTEBIN :: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/643548/ could anyone help me decipher please!
[23:10] <odinsbane> I'm not sitting at a gnome box, but I think you can see all of your processes with the system monitor and kill processes from there too.
[23:10] <jose> #ubuntu-es
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: do you have the latest HPLIP from the HPLIP site?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: also, what is the output of:  lsb_release -d
[23:11] <usr13> mikubuntu: lpq | pastebinit
[23:11] <billy_> its going to take me ages to connect to the seeds again
[23:11] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: yes i have updated to the latest from hplip
[23:11] <odinsbane> mikubuntu: how is the printer setup, is it on a network, or is it directly plugged into your computer?
[23:12] <mikubuntu> odinsbane, direct
[23:12] <mikubuntu> usr13, ok gimme minute
[23:12] <kashyapGada> how to connect to a another windows pc on my wireless network???
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: run the command in terminal, what is output?
[23:12] <chelz> mikubuntu: you went to http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install_wizard/index.html ?
[23:12] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: gimme minute
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: can you expand on "connect"
[23:12] <usr13> mikubuntu: ... and send resulting URL
[23:13] <usr13> kashyapGada: Connect to it how?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: you can ping the windows pc, ping uses tcp so is a connection
[23:13] <kashyapGada> how?
[23:13] <odinsbane> mikubuntu: do you even need cups in that instance?  I thought cups is for sharing a printer over a network?
[23:14] <usr13> kashyapGada: Does the windows pc have a service running that you are interested in accessing?
[23:14] <kashyapGada> actually i want to transfer all data to my new laptop
[23:14] <kashyapGada> no i dun have any idea
[23:14] <usr13> kashyapGada: And the new laptop is running what OS?
[23:14] <kashyapGada> windows
[23:14] <kashyapGada> 7
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: so you want to access the file share on a windows pc?
[23:15] <kashyapGada> ya
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: thats a bit more detail than "connect" isn't it
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: that's why we asked. "connect" means nearly nothing#
[23:15] <kashyapGada> i want to access my ubuntu from windows 7
[23:15] <kashyapGada> to take all the data
[23:16] <billy_> will vuze automaticcally reconnect a download this is taking ages to find a seed
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: share the folder then you will be able to access the share using nautilus
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> billy_: shoudl do
[23:16] <usr13> kashyapGada: You want to transfer date from your Ubuntu to your Win7 PC.  Right?
[23:16] <billy_> its working now :)
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: make sure your firewall (if any) is configured to allow the traffic
[23:16] <usr13> *data not date
[23:17] <Apocryphic> Hmm, 10.04 works great, but 11.04 shits itself.
[23:17] <glisstech> okay - so sudo apt-get -f install did not fix the issue
[23:17] <odinsbane> glisstech: did it find an issue?
[23:17] <mikubuntu> accessing this channel thru webchat.freenode.net keep losing the cursor, then i can't click back into the text line unless i leave the channel and come back again.  what a pain.
[23:18] <Serolos> hi
[23:18] <glisstech> here was the output --- 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[23:18] <Serolos> I am here to ask for help...
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Apocryphic: both desktops are EOL at the same time, please watch the language too
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Serolos: ask away
[23:18] <usr13> glisstech: Looks like it didn't do much.
[23:18] <Serolos> This command works fine:      find ./ -exec TheCommand {} \;
[23:18] <Serolos> this command does not work at all:     find ./ -type d -exec TheCommand {} \;
[23:19] <Serolos> (I try to apply a command only on directories)
[23:19] <Serolos> is it apply on or apply at?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Serolos: I'd ask in #bash too, may help
[23:19] <afeijo> hi folks
[23:19] <afeijo> I screw things up here :p
[23:19] <mikubuntu> usr13 http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/643595/
[23:20] <Serolos> ActionParsnip, okay, thx
[23:20] <odinsbane> mikubuntu: use one of the irc clients that came with ubuntu.
[23:20] <afeijo> I needed to change my partitions, I copy my var partition to be /var folder, removed the partition, now when I reboot I have a few errors and no unity! I run unity thru the terminal now :p
[23:20] <glisstech> so....is there any easy way to undo the changes made my the updates?
[23:20] <afeijo> it say no access to some files, but the /var folder has root:root owner
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> mikubuntu: what is the output of: lsb_release -d
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> !away > xindzz`off
[23:21] <Serolos> Thank you all, bye!
[23:22] <odinsbane> glisstech: synaptic seems to have that option under history.
[23:22] <mikubuntu> 1004.2 LTS ActionParsnip
[23:22] <Apocryphic> ActionParsnip: That's not what the release cycle page says.
[23:23] <odinsbane> glisstech: http://hartmansblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-to-undo-and-update-in-ubuntu-lucid.html
[23:23] <Apocryphic> ActionParsnip: I'm concerned because 11.04 fails with spurious drive errors and I've yet to get an install working.
[23:23] <Reg_> I'm trying to install Natty on my new thinkpad l420 and hte install seems to go fine untill I finaly restart and I get a screen full of vertical stripes and nothing else. Can anyone help?
[23:24] <Apocryphic> Whereas 10.04 and CentOS both work fine and smart testing shows no errors.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Apocryphic: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[23:24] <odinsbane> reg_ can you get to a tty, via ctrl-alt f1 ?
[23:24] <psyk0> Hi! How to install plug-in in eclipse ?
[23:24] <Amaeth> HI, i need some help with the kernel remote-control driver that replace the lirc one, can some one helpme?
[23:24] <glisstech> odinsbane: That was the first thing I tried, unfortunately, it didn't have any history of updated packages, only non ubuntu stuff like xbmc, google chrome
[23:24] <Apocryphic> Yes, the mini images were fine.
[23:25] <Reg_> odinsbane_  I tried that and the screen just goes blank. (Until I press ctrl-alt-f7 and I go back to stripe world)
[23:25] <Apocryphic> I'm not actually booting from them directly, pulled out the kernel and initrd for network boot and am installing from a mirror.
[23:26] <itaylor57> theres your sign
[23:27] <odinsbane> Reg_: what about f2 or f3 ?
[23:28] <Reg_> odinsbane_: same thing
[23:28] <odinsbane> Reg_: it sounds like a graphics card driver problem, but if you cannot get to a tty then it might not have installed correctly.
[23:28] <odinsbane> Reg_: how long do you want after you press ctrl+alt+f2?
[23:29] <Reg_> odinsbane_: about 5 seconds (not long)
[23:29] <kashyapGada> bbbbhow to set up user name and passward for sharing in ubuntu
[23:29] <kashyapGada> how to set up user name and passward for sharing in ubuntu
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> !samba | kashyapGada
[23:30] <kashyapGada> too muchh of headache is this
[23:32] <filo1234> Reg_: you can try a little test
[23:32] <DexterF> how do I restart X from a remote ssh session?
[23:32] <DexterF> gdm has autologin
[23:32] <Reg_> more info: I'm trying to install onto the harddrive that I had used in my last laptop. It is bigger than what came with the thinkpad
[23:32] <mikubuntu_> usr13, ActionParsnip, odinsbane on chatzilla now
[23:33] <Reg_> filo1234: what test?
[23:33] <th0r> DexterF: sudo service gdm restart?
[23:33] <DexterF> th0r: leaves me with a tty
[23:33] <filo1234> Reg_: reboot in recovery mode and choose root, when you logged in type X -configure && cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try reboot in this way
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> DexterF: kill the x server process should do it
[23:33] <DexterF> th0r: oh wow, you were right
[23:33] <th0r> DexterF: sometimes <smile>
[23:34] <DexterF> th0r: I actually did it the old fashioned way via /etc... seems there is a difference after all
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     you can then set the password for systems to access the Ubuntu shares with
[23:34] <maryanne> ijb
[23:34] <DexterF> still the display stays at 60hz no matter what I try to force
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: also http://thelinuxexperiment.com/linux/accessing-windows-7-shares-from-ubuntu-is-a-pain/
[23:35] <filo1234> Reg_: if issue persist, reboot again in recovery mode...and type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf search for #Option vesa, uncommented it and put "True" after vesa like this Option Vesa "True"  save the file and reboot again
[23:35] <filo1234> look what happens
[23:37] <kashyapGada> username?
[23:37] <kashyapGada> '
[23:37] <tyler_d> just got a new travelmate, has an nvidia, so I ran nvidia-xconfig and upon restart it froze the machine... I have removed the xorg.conf completely, could someone help please.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: if you run it as I gave it, it will use your username
[23:39] <filo1234> Reg_: maybe after you can install graphics driver, maybe by Driver HArdware...but remember to delete or to rename xorg.conf
[23:39] <Reg_> I'll give it a try
[23:39] <kashyapGada> username of linux or windows
[23:39] <filo1234> Reg_: good luck
[23:39] <filo1234> :p
[23:39] <kashyapGada> gotit
[23:39] <kashyapGada> THANK YOU
[23:40] <kashyapGada> thank you aaction
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: it will be the one you use in Linux. If you are being challenged for credentials when you access the windows system then it is obviously your windows account as you are authenticating on a windows PC
[23:41] <notsureaboutthis> hi, i was reading about installing software, and heard that i should be cautious about installing .debs. How can i tell if a .deb is safe or not?
[23:41] <kashyapGada> its working
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: still too much of a headache, took you less than 5 mins...
[23:42] <notsureaboutthis> in particular, i want to install this game engine, it has a .deb, but it's not available in my package manager: http://www.panda3d.org/
[23:42] <kashyapGada> intelligent ppl like u make it work
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> notsureaboutthis: you can install deb files by double clicking them
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: its common sense when you look at it
[23:43] <notsureaboutthis> thanks, though i want to know if it's safe or not?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: thanks for the compliment too :)
[23:43] <tyler_d> could someone please tell me why my laptop(travelmate) won't boot after doing an nvidia-reconfig http://paste.ubuntu.com/643609/
[23:43] <kashyapGada> are u a developer?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> notsureaboutthis: its an unofficial deb so safe is anyones guess
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> kashyapGada: no, only a regular and ubuntu member
[23:44] <kashyapGada> tooo  good
[23:45] <notsureaboutthis> ActionParsnip: so there's no way to confirm if it's safe or not? it looks legitimate, maybe i'm just being paranoid?
[23:45]  * Benkinooby sees ActionParsnip a lot here... reading ActionParsnip writes often as some kind of learning effect
[23:45] <Benkinooby> reading what Act...
[23:45] <kashyapGada> IM getting very less speed
[23:46] <kashyapGada> any other way to get hi speed transfer using ethernet
[23:46] <andrewS> is there a way to install ubuntu on top of an exiting screwed up ubuntu without booting to an ISO? i upgraded 11.04 and it broke almost everything. can't revert. no cd/dvd drive. hpmini (originally installed thru usb)
[23:46] <kashyapGada> between two pc
[23:46] <kashyapGada> one ubuntu n linux
[23:46] <kashyapGada> n windows
[23:46] <Reg_> filo1234: I began an attempt to reinstall before I came on, and now the install has froze. This has happened at least twice before. Is there options I should be selecting for my install?
[23:46] <Benkinooby> kashyapGada, netcat but that is commandline magic ;) what do you want to do?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> notsureaboutthis: it's 3rd party so not really. 99% of the time stuff is fine. I'd go for it personally. Its your call though
[23:47] <kashyapGada> i want to transfer lot of data frp, ubuntu to my my new windows pc
[23:47] <Benkinooby> Reg_, i once encountered freezes during my installs... checking the BIOS for your hard drive settings is a good guess and won'T ahrm anything
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Benkinooby: its learning for me too. I have few issues so I kinda learn the OS by helping others :)
[23:48] <Reg_> Benkinooby: what should I be looking for?
[23:49] <notsureaboutthis> ActionParsnip: okay, i guess i'll take my chances haha. would there be any symptoms or something i would notice after installation if it's not safe? thanks
[23:49] <Benkinooby> Reg_, hm, that depends from BIOS to BIOS but in general, hard disks run in different modes, like DMA mode or PIO mode. so see if you can set modes for your hard disk
[23:49] <Benkinooby> Reg_, in case to does not help just set it mack again
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> notsureaboutthis: not sure, slowness I guess and weird behavious. You know how your system feels, it will feel different
[23:50] <Benkinooby> Reg_, you know how to enter the BIOS?
[23:50] <Reg_> yep
[23:51] <Apocryphic> Alright, I'm guessing it was a bad mirror.
[23:51] <Benkinooby> notsureaboutthis, i usually see if the deb offers the sources and then if some eople wrote about that deb,... like test reviews or so
[23:51] <D-coy> ping m4v
[23:52] <`blackmk4> is there a decent general networking chan on freenode
[23:52] <manoel> olá!
[23:52] <Benkinooby> Reg_, in case the install is still troubleing you, just try a debian install and see if it works better... jsut to see if it something with ubunut or your hard disk
[23:53] <djbpython> hey all, i was having sound issues on 10.04 so i reinstalled alsa, but now it wont boot into ubuntu
[23:53] <manoel> Something about Linux?
[23:53] <djbpython> I can boot into xp (I somehow have it dual booted)
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> `blackmk4: ##networking
[23:53] <Reg_> I'll give debian a shot
[23:53] <hdevalence> j #eigen
[23:53] <djbpython> any way to recover from that?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[23:54] <manoel> I have no sound in Xubuntu. Who can help me?
[23:54] <notsureaboutthis> Benkinooby: well i googled a bit, found a thread on ubuntuforums with a few people talking about it, and another thread on its forum, talking about installing it on ubuntu, but nothing real specific. it says it's open source, but i'm not sure what you mean by the deb offering the sources?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: run: sudo apt-get install os-prober; sudo os-prober; sudo update-grub
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> manoel: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[23:55] <djbpython> ActionParsnip: I can't boot into ubuntu, so i cant run those commands
[23:55] <Eitan> so this is an interesting issue that i have... my company just had me set up a few comps for customer service reps.... they wanted to save money on the licences. so i said lets use ubuntu... everything works great except..... 1 website... this 1 website only works on IE.. even on a windows machine
[23:55] <Eitan> only works on I.E
[23:55] <manoel> The output is a simple headphone.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: then you will need to boot to liveCD and reinstate grub2
[23:55] <Eitan> what in the world can i do to get this to work
[23:56] <djbpython> ActionParsnip: i dont believe its a grub issue, i can get passed grub
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> manoel: if you run the command, upload to the server it will make a red URL. What is it
[23:56] <Benkinooby> notsureaboutthis, if you write a program, you write source code, shortened as source. this code is easy to read and others can see, if the code is well writen and does not have any backdoors or other evil stuff. later you compile the source code, to run it on your computer.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: does the system boot to a black screen?
[23:56] <Jordan_U> Eitan: WHat website? Have you tried changing the user agent string? How exactly does it fail?
[23:56] <Benkinooby> open source = source code available
[23:56] <djbpython> ActionParsnip: after i make my grub selection it is black, but the back light is on
[23:56] <Eitan> jordan: does not fail... its a https... secure site for one of our partners... fraims are messed up - doesnt look right
[23:57] <djbpython> Starting up ...
[23:57] <Eitan> fucntions properly, but you miss most of the text in the drop down boxes and such
[23:57] <Eitan> same thing happens in alllll other browsers on a widnows machine... so by no mean is it ubuntuy
[23:57] <Eitan> just need to find a solution for ubuntu -
[23:57] <Eitan> i tried Wine and Ie, but that is a messy messy thing
[23:57] <manoel> Thanks for the help. I will see.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | djbpython
[23:57] <djbpython> whoa! it just booted
[23:57] <djbpython> after like 15 tries
[23:58] <djbpython> Credit goes to ActionParsnip
[23:58] <w30> Eitan, there is a wine install with IE6 in it floating aroundm on the net somewhere for downloading on Ubuntu but I can't tell you where. Google for it.
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> djbpython: freaky
[23:58] <Eitan> ie4linux with wine... yeah
[23:58] <w30> Eitan, you get wine and IE6 in one fell swoop.
[23:58] <Eitan> is that the best way u think?
[23:58] <djbpython> ok, so my sound setup is still broken
[23:58] <Eitan> yeah i already did that
[23:58] <Eitan> lol
[23:59] <djbpython> Your audio capture settings are invalid
[23:59] <notsureaboutthis> Benkinooby: it also lets me download the source code instead of a .deb, would doing that be any better? sorry, i'm not quite sure what you're getting at
[23:59] <qazplm> hi
[23:59] <Eitan> i stopped persuing it, wondering if there wasnt another solution... if that is the only solution then that is what i shall use
[23:59] <djbpython> then it points me to System->Preferences->"Sound Preferences"
[23:59] <qazplm> If I want to encrypt my hard drive with truecrypt and dual boot, should I install ububtu then encrypt, or vice versa?