valorie apachelogger: I love Austria! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-1413552300:49
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shadeslayeryofel: i have everything worked out except for the description :P08:17
shadeslayersymbols are here http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yy1VWeee and http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=NzvNgxV208:17
yofelfun, kdelibs building for 9h now, 72%08:44
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HorusHorrendusapachelogger: amarok (newest git) has problems building under current 11.1009:26
HorusHorrendusI think it could have to do with libgcrypt.so moving to /lib from /usr/lib09:26
HorusHorrenduscmake seems to find libgcrypt correctly but the -lgcrypt doesn't find it09:26
Quintasanyofel: Do we have kdelibs-mobile?09:36
yofelnot that I know of09:37
* yofel tries to get ccache and icecc working again in pbuilder09:37
yofelit's like the initial run of dpkg-buildpackage sets it's own PATH09:37
yofelonce you drop to shell they work fine09:37
apacheloggeryofel: it might just b executed from the wrong envrionment10:03
yofelcould be, what irritates me is that an A99env hook prints PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:/usr/lib/icecc/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin10:04
yofelwhile cmake sees PATH: /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games10:04
yofelwhich doesn't even have the pbuilder base path10:05
apacheloggerreport a bug10:06
apacheloggerhold on10:06
apacheloggeryofel: how do you export the path?10:06
apacheloggeror where10:06
apacheloggeror when10:06
apacheloggeractually all of them :P10:06
yofelI export it in pbuilderrc10:07
yofeljust reading pbuilder scripts10:08
apacheloggergrep them for PATH ^^10:08
yofelgood idea10:08
yofelonly gives pbuilder-checkparams:    export PATH="/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH" :/10:08
yofelwhich obviously works 10:09
* yofel adds some debugging output10:14
yofelI think it fails in the way pbuilder calls the build:10:27
yofelecho "cd tmp/buildd/*/ && dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc  -j6 -rfakeroot" | chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build//4560 env LOGNAME=pbuilder su -p pbuilder10:27
yofelor not o.O10:32
yofelhelps to search the debian BTS - debian bug 60668710:41
ubottuDebian bug 606687 in pbuilder "ccache support fails in the face of su PATH mangling" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/60668710:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: yofel need descriptions for libkateineterfaces4 and libktexteditorcodesnippetscore0.10:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: public libs, need to split out of kate10:58
yofellike I know what those do11:01
shadeslayeri have no idea myself11:03
apacheloggerso read?11:05
yofelwant me to put patched pbuilder and icecc into ninjas? This is pretty much unfunctional otherwise11:08
apacheloggersure whatever why not11:09
shadeslayerThe Kate application interfaces provide a better integration into the app like tool views. 11:12
shadeslayerThis library contains the code used by kate plugins that provide a better  integration into the app like tool views11:13
HorusHorrendusapachelogger: did you see my libgcrypt problem?11:14
yofelshadeslayer: sounds like it does something, so good ^^11:15
shadeslayerlibktexteditorcodesnippetscore0 is actually under kate/plugins11:17
shadeslayershould i move it to kate-plugins?11:18
yofelwhat do you mean? /usr/lib/libktexteditor_codesnippets_core.so.011:18
apacheloggerHorusHorrendus: rm -rf build 11:19
shadeslayerwell yes, but in the source tarball its kate-4.6.90/kate/plugins/snippets_tng/lib/11:19
HorusHorrendusapachelogger: trust me ... I tried that11:21
HorusHorrendusand many other things11:21
HorusHorrenduschecked if libgcrypt is installed11:21
HorusHorrenduswe also checked out a new FindLibgrcrpyt.cmake11:21
yofelshadeslayer: then ask them why the hell they install that in /usr/lib11:21
shadeslayeryeah, emailing the author11:22
apacheloggerHorusHorrendus: report a bug I guess11:23
HorusHorrendusfor libgcrypt?11:23
apacheloggerwhatever linker you are using11:24
HorusHorrendusgold I think ...11:24
apacheloggerbug 66243312:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 662433 in kcm-touchpad (Ubuntu) "Add "disable while typing" option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66243312:32
apacheloggerdidnt we like have that feature?12:32
apacheloggery u loose my features12:33
apacheloggeryofel: y u no blog?12:33
yofelI'll spend most of today studying after wasting time on pbuilder, I'll think about it12:35
apacheloggeryofel: ok, then I'll do it :P12:42
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dpmhey apachelogger, there are quite a lot of kde templates in the imports queue, and I'm wondering what to do with them. You said upstream had changed quite a lot of things wrt the l10n packages. Could you give me an overview of some of the changes so I know how I should approve or move around the templates in LP?13:49
debfxshadeslayer: what's the ETA for the kate package?14:11
shadeslayerdebfx: i've asked upstream if libktexteditorcodesnippetscore0 is indeed a public lib and whether or not to ship it in its own package14:11
shadeslayerbecause libktexteditorcodesnippetscore0 is actually a part of kate plugins14:12
shadeslayerapart from that i have everything ready ( well except for a description for libktexteditorcodesnippetscore0 )14:14
debfxshadeslayer: maybe an external plugin also uses that library14:16
debfxif not we could just remove the header files from kate-dev and move the lib to kate-plugins14:17
shadeslayerdebfx: i leave it to your discretion, if you want, i have everything ready to go14:17
debfxshadeslayer: ok, I'll do that. could you push your changes?14:25
shadeslayerdebfx: sure, the only thing left is a description, lemme finish that up and then i'll push it :)14:26
shadeslayerdebfx: i have a question about shlibs14:27
debfxshadeslayer: don't worry about libktexteditorcodesnippetscore0, I'll move it to kate-plugins for now14:27
apacheloggerdpm: if only I knew14:38
apacheloggerdpm: kdebase is now kde-baseapps, kdebase-runtime is now kde-runtime, kdebase-workspace is now kde-workspace14:39
apacheloggertemplates that formerly all came out of the kdegraphics source are now distributed across multiple source packages, though the template name should likely ahve changed the same14:39
apacheloggerthose include libksane, libkexiv2, libkdcraw, libkipi, ksaneplugin, kolourpaint, ksnapshot, gwenview, kruler, kcolorchoose, kgamma, kamera and okular14:40
apacheloggerkate ealier was part of the kdesdk source, is now an independent source14:40
apacheloggerkonsole ealier was part of the kdebase source, is now an independent source too14:41
apacheloggerkdeedu, like degraphics was split into multiple sources14:41
apacheloggerblinken, cantor, kalgebra, kalzium, kanagram, kbruch, kgeography, khangman, kig, kiten, klettres, kmplot, kstars, ktouch, kturtle kwordquiz, libkdeedu, marble, parley, rocs and step14:41
apacheloggerdpm: any new templates that are not covered by those changes need specific investigation I suppose14:42
dpmapachelogger, ok, that's really helpful already, so I've got something to start with. Thanks! :)14:43
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Rohan Garg * 20 * debian/ (6 files) * Move arch indep files from kate to kate-data14:48
shadeslayerdebfx: ^^14:49
shadeslayerplease review and kick me for my mistakes :)14:49
apacheloggerwho is in 4.7?14:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: you mean the packaged 4.7?14:56
shadeslayeror does Neon count? :P14:56
apacheloggeranything that looks like 4.714:56
apacheloggerI need a snazzy screenshot14:56
shadeslayeranything in particular?14:57
apacheloggersomething snazzy14:59
shadeslayersheytan is probably your guy in that case15:00
shadeslayeri have a very boring desktop http://i.imgur.com/zO5Tc.jpg15:00
apacheloggerhe is not running 4.715:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: iirc he has neon as well15:00
apacheloggeroh good lord15:00
* apachelogger reports a bug15:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: plz fix15:06
apacheloggerthat is no fun business at all15:09
karmoHi, do somebody know when the Kate will be updated to 3.7 RC1? At the moment it just crashes if I try to run it because KDE is 4.7 RC1 and Kate is still old version.15:16
apacheloggerkarmo: give shadeslayer a beating15:17
apacheloggerhe is holding it back15:17
shadeslayerhey i pushed it to bzr, debfx is (hopefully) reviewing it15:18
* yofel needs a break15:18
karmook:) i really miss my favorite editor15:22
shadeslayeruse emacs :P15:23
yofelnah, vim in yakuake15:24
yofelsooo... when are we wrapping up rc1? gwenview is stuck, I'm not sure how to split mobipocket, neither is it important, and smoke still has no sane copyright upstream15:25
yofelupload kate and kstars and move to rc2?15:26
shadeslayerthats left too iirc15:26
karmowhat about networkmanager-kde? it doesn't work for wireless networks and i'm using gnome applet to connect wifi :)15:26
yofelshadeslayer: I can do perl in rc2 too...15:26
shadeslayerkarmo: broken due to new networkmanager backend iirc15:26
yofelif we postpone this any longer we might as well skip rc2 and wait for final to come out15:26
yofelkarmo: the plasma widget? works fine for me in oneiric15:27
yofel(it's from the nm-0.9 branch)15:27
shadeslayeri'm a bit busy for the next couple of days15:28
shadeslayerwon't be able to help until next week15:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: can you bring your N900 to DS?15:28
shadeslayeri want to test a PIM sync over a local network15:29
yofelhm, if mobipocket is too generic, how about okular-plugin-mobipocket and strigi-plugin-mobipocket then?15:33
apacheloggershadeslayer: any other phones I should bring?15:36
apacheloggeryofel: kdegraphics-plugin-mobipocket15:37
yofelhm, if that's enought for scott then perfect15:38
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/control rename into kdegraphics-mobipocket and run wrap-and-sort15:47
yofelI made it enhance okular too15:47
yofelapachelogger: can you look at it later? (but today if possible)15:49
yofeland someone please look at kstars15:49
shadeslayeri'll look at kstars15:56
yofelI fixed some things, so should be ready for upload (except for indi being too old)15:57
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: bug 81052915:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 810529 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[regression] Kubuntu contributors using broken editors" [High,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81052915:59
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: I think those random bug triagers get all smartass on me15:59
yofelstop mis-using launchpad for personal differences :P16:00
shadeslayerRiddell: you have libindi 0.7.2 in your PPA16:00
shadeslayeryofel: tell that to apachelogger16:00
tsimpsonQML session starting in #ubuntu-classroom now (btw)16:00
shadeslayer^^ i need that16:00
* shadeslayer joins16:00
yofelshadeslayer: we need indi 0.8.016:01
shadeslayeryofel: yeah, packaging that16:01
Riddellindi is a mess to package16:01
Riddellbe careful with the plugins, they don't all have source or get released16:02
shadeslayeri just need the lib itself i think16:04
shadeslayerweird how debian does not have the package16:05
Riddellwell you might just need the lib to compile against, but the lib won't do anything unless it has working plugins16:09
apacheloggerNEEDS UPLOAD16:10
apacheloggeryofel: didnt I upload akonadi?16:10
apachelogger!info akonadi oneiric16:10
ubottuPackage akonadi does not exist in oneiric16:10
apacheloggerfun :D16:10
apachelogger!info akonadi-server oneiric16:10
ubottuakonadi-server (source: akonadi): Akonadi PIM storage service. In component main, is extra. Version 1.5.80-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 524 kB, installed size 1996 kB16:10
yofelyou uploaded 1.5.80, ppa has 1.6.016:10
apacheloggerbzr had .8016:10
* apachelogger does not release from ppa16:11
shadeslayerRiddell: ah, are the plugins from your ppa any good?16:11
yofelapachelogger: refresh bzr?16:11
apacheloggerdont have time16:11
* apachelogger is writing blog post16:11
yofelwell, not that important either16:11
yofelwrite the post16:11
karmoyofel: where did you get working networkmanager for kde in oneiric?16:12
Riddellshadeslayer: hard to tell, I'll forward you the discussion I had with upstream last I looked16:13
yofel!info plasma-widget-networkmanagement | karmo16:13
ubottukarmo: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (source: plasma-widget-networkmanagement): Network Management widget for KDE4 Plasma. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9~svngit20110408-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 62 kB, installed size 296 kB16:13
yofel!info plasma-widget-networkmanagement oneiric | karmo16:14
ubottukarmo: plasma-widget-networkmanagement (source: networkmanagement): Network Management widget for KDE Plasma workspaces. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9~svngit.nm09.20110610.0c83d8-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 839 kB, installed size 3588 kB16:14
yofelas you see from the version, that's for nm0916:14
shadeslayerRiddell: http://sourceforge.net/projects/indi/files/indilib/0.8/ just has the lib16:20
Riddellshadeslayer: right, upstream isn't very good at releasing plugins16:20
CIA-52[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 364 * debian/ (6 files) * New upstream release candidate16:20
shadeslayerso we just use the older ones you packaged?16:21
yofelthen you'll have to patch the cmake check, which I doubt is the right thing16:22
shadeslayerdoes sound nasty16:29
shadeslayerbut i managed to build libindi 16:29
* yofel trys to get perlqt done16:34
* debfx wonders if we should put katepart into an own package since it was part of kdelibs5-plugins16:35
shadeslayerwasn't katepart in its own package?16:40
shadeslayeriirc it was in libkatepartinterfaces416:40
yofelnope, it's in kate16:41
debfxshadeslayer: that's just the library katepart uses16:42
shadeslayeroh derp16:43
apacheloggerI need saxy screenshot of the 4.7 or I will start waving my fist again!17:02
apacheloggeralso I need someone to read blog post17:02
apacheloggerNightrose: honey :) :) :)17:02
apacheloggerI know17:03
apacheloggerthe lazy ol' yofel :P17:03
apacheloggeryofel: you haz mail17:04
* apachelogger leaves to play some golf17:04
shadeslayeryofel: http://i.imgur.com/qp6kz.png << \o/18:02
shadeslayeri can finally haz memo sync 18:02
Quintasanshadeslayer: Can you take a look at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235020 ?18:03
ubottuKDE bug 235020 in kdeui "crash while using character selector widget" [Crash,New]18:03
* apachelogger beats shadeslayer to make a proper screenshot18:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: whats a proper screenshot? 18:04
* Quintasan can't reproduce that while user in #ubuntu-pl gets this very often18:04
apacheloggerone that does not contain unintersting plunder and uses a proper wallpaper18:04
apacheloggerQuintasan: why dont you investigate?18:06
shadeslayer^^ yes18:06
Quintasanapachelogger: Since I don't get a shit what's going on in those backtraces nor I have coding skillz?18:06
shadeslayerdebug info is pretty good18:06
apacheloggerQuintasan: but wouldnt it be because of that a perfect learning opportunity?18:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: no it is not18:07
Quintasanapachelogger: Learning what?18:07
apacheloggerwhoever wrote kcharselect did not know about the use of asserts clearly18:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: whut18:07
apacheloggerQuintasan: codingz, debugginz, shitz18:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: the debug info is crapz or the bug would be fixed already18:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: how is that? you can clearly see where its crashing, you get the line number and everything18:08
apacheloggerthat does not make it good debug info as you dunno why shit goes wrong there18:09
* Quintasan has no idea how to read that magic and even less ideas how to fix that18:09
apacheloggerFWIW I cannot reproduce it either18:11
QuintasanNor can I18:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: lol @ comment 1018:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: the model index is out of range which is why it crashes?18:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: does that knowledge help?18:15
shadeslayeri'm just speculating18:16
apacheloggerwell, usually it is that kind of thing with models18:17
apacheloggerwhich is why one should be using plenty of asserts18:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: I find the code there a bit weird18:21
shadeslayeri haven't read the code, thats all i could infer from the backtrace18:21
apacheloggerwhat type is htat anyway18:22
* apachelogger hates reading code in a webz browsa18:22
shadeslayerit crashes at a ...brace ? 0.o18:23
apacheloggersilly shadeslayer18:24
apachelogger    QChar c = m_chars[pos];18:24
apacheloggerat least the most recent bracktrace18:24
shadeslayeri was looking at the original report18:24
shadeslayerah yes, 18:25
apacheloggerchances are they are different issues18:25
apacheloggerin my experience any bug that was thought to be fixed once but was reopened is representing at least 2 different issues18:25
apacheloggermore likely >218:25
apacheloggerphonon xine is a good example for that :P18:26
apacheloggerthen again it is shitty code and crashes all the time and everywhere, even without solar flares18:26
apacheloggernow what is interesting about that most recent crash in kcharselect is that m_chars is a qlist18:27
apacheloggernow as usual accessing a qlist with the [] operator is a bit of a dangerous thing because the index *must* be valid18:27
apacheloggerto help comes line 68018:28
apachelogger    if (pos >= m_chars.size() || index.row() < 0 || index.column() < 0) {18:28
apacheloggerinside only returns can happen18:28
apacheloggernow the constraint for a valid index is 0 <= i < size IIRC18:28
apacheloggeranyhow, that pos >= m_chars.size() should ensure valid index18:30
apacheloggerwhich leaves 2 options18:30
apacheloggera) pos exceeds int range and goes int -int which would of course then result in pos < size BUT pos < 0, which doesnt meet the requirement for valid index18:31
apacheloggerlooking at the calcuation for pos18:31
apachelogger    int pos = m_columns * (index.row()) + index.column();18:31
apacheloggerI'd say that is a possibility as result from brekage elsewhere18:32
QuintasanElsewhere being?18:32
apacheloggerb) the qchar at m_chars[pos] is kaput, but since it is not a list of qchar* I find it unlikely18:32
apachelogger    QChar c = m_chars[pos];18:33
apacheloggerthat would at least result in a call to the assignment operator18:33
apacheloggerand there it would crash18:33
apacheloggerso, putting the evidance together....18:33
apacheloggerwe have an if that checks half the valid index constraint18:33
apacheloggerwe have an index operator access on qlist18:34
apacheloggerand we have a crash in ::data() even though the offending line should result in a deeper stack in terms of QChar copy/assignment18:34
apacheloggerbut oh, we are not there yet it seems18:35
apacheloggerinline T &QList<T>::operator[](int i)18:36
apachelogger{ Q_ASSERT_X(i >= 0 && i < p.size(), "QList<T>::operator[]", "index out of range");18:36
apachelogger  detach(); return reinterpret_cast<Node *>(p.at(i))->t(); 18:36
apacheloggerthat is the [] operator of qlist18:37
apacheloggerand looking at it I wonder18:37
apacheloggerif it were scenario a) as presented earlier18:37
apacheloggerwhy does the stack not contain the assert call?18:37
apacheloggerusually if you assert in a kapp the stack from assert position to what happens as part of an assert (qwarning and whatnot) should appear in the stack trace18:38
apacheloggerbut it is not in this case18:38
apacheloggerhowever, perhaps their distros are built without debug in Qt18:38
apacheloggerin which case the assert would not be fatal18:38
apacheloggerand here comes Quintasan in18:39
apacheloggerQuintasan: you said ubuntu users have seen that crash?18:39
apacheloggerdid they show you a backtrace? did they report a bug?18:39
Quintasanapachelogger: Indeed18:39
QuintasanComment 4418:39
ubottuKDE bug 235020 in kdeui "crash while using character selector widget" [Crash,New]18:39
apacheloggerI see18:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: what do we conclude?18:40
shadeslayerusers suck18:40
apacheloggerQuintasan: is that guy online by any chance?18:41
Quintasanapachelogger: Yes18:41
shadeslayerasserts rule ? :P18:41
apacheloggerQuintasan: ok, ask him to start kcharselect form a terminal and try to trigger the crash18:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: and?18:41
shadeslayerdunno what else18:42
apachelogger...and the code is crap and we dunno what the cause is because apachelogger eliminated a) and b) :P18:42
apacheloggerhere is the thing18:42
apacheloggeriff I do not remember correctly and asserts do not show up as part of the stack trace in drkonqi, then it could still be a)18:43
Quintasanapachelogger: 18:43
apacheloggerwhat we can say almost definitely is that it is not case b) 18:43
Quintasannothing interesting here18:43
apacheloggerit would be crashing elsewhere if it were in the assignment18:43
apacheloggerQuintasan: indeed18:44
apacheloggerQuintasan: gdb kcharselect18:44
apachelogger...trigger crash...18:44
apacheloggerthread apply all bt18:44
Quintasanthread apply all bt <-- is that gdb command?18:45
apacheloggerapplies the bt (backtrace) command to all threads ^^18:46
Quintasanapachelogger: http://wklej.to/hNrnH18:49
Quintasanapachelogger: Is that something more interesting?18:52
apacheloggerp pos18:53
* apachelogger wonders if that works when the segfault already appeared ^^18:54
Quintasanapachelogger: Fanfares18:55
Quintasan$1 = -46976197618:55
apacheloggerI win18:55
apacheloggera) right there18:55
apacheloggerQuintasan: is he knowlegable enough to write a comment on the bug?18:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^ I get 50 bucks from you18:56
Quintasanapachelogger: Not at all, just your typical user18:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: sure, 50 INR18:56
apacheloggerQuintasan: ok, I'll write the findings down, tell him the thanks for helping18:56
shadeslayerthats like 1 USD18:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: more like 0.1 USD18:56
apacheloggerand you call that moniez!!!!18:56
shadeslayeryour math skillz are screwed up18:57
apacheloggerI no18:57
apacheloggerI am software engineer18:57
shadeslayergoogle says its 1 USD :P18:57
shadeslayer1.1 rather18:57
Quintasanapachelogger: btw. do they sell Dr. Pepper somewhere near your dwelling?18:58
bambeesweet baby jesus18:59
bambee[40146.009081] Out of memory: Kill process 28238 (knotify4) score 889 or sacrifice child18:59
bambeeswap: 700MB19:00
shadeslayerlol .. i'm using QMap::count incorrectly it seems19:00
bambeekernel oops inside "oom" killer itself... well... I will reboot with the 2.6.38 :D19:01
Quintasanbambee: Magic19:01
QuintasanOut Of Magic19:02
apacheloggerQuintasan: ohoh19:02
bambeea good point for linux 3.0-rc7 => nouveau19:02
bambeeit's very fast !19:02
apacheloggerQuintasan: if at all possible it would be cool to get the output of19:02
shadeslayerQuintasan: LOL19:02
apacheloggerp m_columns19:02
apacheloggerp index.row()19:02
apacheloggerand p index.column()19:02
apacheloggersupposedly they are optimized out though at that point in the code19:02
Quintasanp m_columns - $2 = 1819:03
Quintasanp index.row() - Cannot evaluate function -- may be inlined19:04
Quintasanp index.column() - See above19:04
Quintasanapachelogger: ^19:04
apacheloggerah yeah, thx19:04
Quintasanapachelogger: I told him not to kill it yet19:05
apacheloggerQuintasan: yeah, I have everything worth having :)19:05
* Quintasan goes packing stuff for tomorrow's raid on the capital of Poland19:05
apacheloggerQuintasan: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235020#c4619:12
ubottuKDE bug 235020 in kdeui "crash while using character selector widget" [Crash,New]19:12
apacheloggernow you can learnz something19:12
apacheloggerQuintasan: oh you are going on a raid?19:12
apacheloggerhow jolly fun19:12
yofelapachelogger: lovin' the post19:15
yofelnow it would be good for me to write up a post for kubuntu.org...19:16
apacheloggermust be rubbish then ^^19:16
apacheloggeryofel: yeah, do that, so I have something to link to :*19:16
apacheloggershadeslayer: y u no send me screenshotz?19:16
yofelright, that's what I was implying :/19:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: i did19:17
shadeslayeryou filed a bug :P19:17
yofelhm, what to do re kdepim? kopy to experimental?19:17
apacheloggercoz the shot is crap19:17
apachelogger<apachelogger> one that does not contain unintersting plunder and uses a proper wallpaper19:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^19:17
shadeslayerno time for that, have to figure out QMap shitz19:17
* apachelogger beats shadeslayer with a long pornon stick19:18
apacheloggerwhat is wrong with you people :@19:18
* shadeslayer gets a syncevo stick and battles it out19:18
apacheloggeranyone knows why the big 11.04 banner on kubuntu.org links to download?19:18
apacheloggerthat seems rather odd19:18
apacheloggerno one goes somewhere and simply buys stuff without first knowing what they are getting19:19
bjsnider_is anyone here using kde4/i386?19:21
yofel... because he's writing a flash installer and wants to test whether the installer works right for kde4/i38619:22
yofelapachelogger_: and where else should a banner with 'download now' on it is supposed to link to?19:23
yofelthough it's far too huge IMO19:23
kubotuyofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"19:24
Quintasanapachelogger_: lol @ comment #47 "D19:25
shadeslayeryofel: flash installer? 0.o19:26
yofelshadeslayer: ask him19:26
Quintasanbjsnider_: Does a VirtualBox machine count?19:27
apachelogger_yofel: my point being that it should not be download now19:27
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shadeslayeri'm off to bed, cya tomorrow19:27
apacheloggerQuintasan: do I haz to do everything19:27
Quintasanapachelogger: Erm, I'm not following on that one19:28
apacheloggerit is magic19:28
bjsnider_Quintasan, absolutely19:29
* yofel thinks of http://emilsedgh.info/blog/index.php?/archives/13-The-sad-state-of-our-websites..html when looking at our webpage19:29
bjsnider_Quintasan, it has web access?19:30
yofelapachelogger: give me a minute to create a new user, changing this into something snapshottable would take hours :P19:30
Quintasanbjsnider_: Sorry, it's amd64 apparently19:30
Quintasanstupid VirtualBox19:31
QuintasanI can do a quick install now19:31
bjsnider_don't any linux users use i386 anymore? does everybody have over 4gb of ram now?19:31
Quintasan_bjsnider_: installing i386 on VM19:33
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yofelapachelogger: what do you want screenshots of?19:35
yofelwow, haven't seen the default session in a while ^^19:36
Quintasanbjsnider_: Should be ready soon19:38
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apacheloggeryofel: anything that looks good19:49
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apacheloggerand use the stripes wallpaper if it isnt default anyway19:49
apacheloggerdolphin or something19:49
yofelapachelogger: here's some of the default http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/screens/19:49
yofelah no, it wasn't19:49
yofelgive me a minute19:49
apacheloggerQuintasan: you are on 64bit? the other dude is on 32bit?19:49
apacheloggerQuintasan: that would explain why we cannot reproduce the issue, though our int should also be 32bit, unless ubuntu gcc is all sorts of fancy19:50
apacheloggeryofel: lol, they still did not fix the date thing?19:50
apacheloggersomeone deserves a whipping I guess :P19:51
yofeloh, didn't even notice that ^^19:52
yofelodd, after logging in again the date is gone o.O19:53
yofelapachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/screens/snapshot6.png19:55
yofelstripes looks somewhat plain...19:56
yofelapachelogger: snap 7 and 8 with dolphin19:58
yofelsomething else?19:59
* yofel switches sessions again20:00
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apacheloggerand now for some http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH2-TGUlwu420:13
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bambeedoes knotify4 contain a swap bomb? (Memory: 91%)20:39
yofelI would call that a pretty nice memleak :P20:40
bambeeI used it during a week... no problem... and this evening my system is just unusable20:41
Quintasanapachelogger: ping20:59
Quintasanapachelogger: nvm, this will have to wait until tomorrow21:08
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