[01:07] <philipballew> has anyone else noticed their battery life got longer? apt-get updated and now my bettery is lasting an extra hour
[01:09] <Error404NotFound> how would an update save power...
[01:10] <Unit193> Kernel update might
[01:11] <Error404NotFound> by an hour?
[01:11] <Error404NotFound> is there a power save setting in ubuntu?
[01:11] <Error404NotFound> possibly dimmed his display
[01:12] <philipballew> Error404NotFound, yeah, it went from 3.5 to 5 hours. it might be a kernal update. seemes weird if my battery all the sudden started pumping more power out
[01:13] <Error404NotFound> thats one serious kernal update if thats what it is
[01:14] <Error404NotFound> i never use my laptop so i wouldnt know about battery life
[01:14] <Unit193> This talks about the issue (not fix) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTM3NQ
[01:18] <Error404NotFound> ima have to update my laptop now..
[01:29] <philipballew> Unit193, this seemes like its crazy. interesting bug
[02:28] <LincMii> Can I install software off a website using Ubuntu Natty Server Edition?
[02:29] <LincMii> Is anyone in here?
[02:31] <Elise001> Hi. I am not familiar with it.
[02:33] <LincMii> Is anyone familiar with hosting an Ubuntu LAMP server on VirtualBox?
[02:33] <Elise001> Sorry.
[02:34] <Elise001> I am still learning myself. Perhaps Seidos knows of this.
[02:34] <pleia2> LincMii: not really sure what you mean "install software off a website"
[02:35] <pleia2> and I've run LAMP in lots of virtualized environments, do you have specific questions about it?
[02:37] <LincMii> pleia2: I'm trying to experiement and learn about hosting a web environment from home through VirtualBox and Ubuntu 11.04 server edition
[02:37] <pleia2> cool
[02:37] <pleia2> what's your host operating system?
[02:38] <LincMii> Windows 7 Prof
[02:38] <LincMii> 64-bit
[02:39] <pleia2> ah
[02:39] <pleia2> do you want this ubuntu server to be accessible to the internet?
[02:39] <LincMii> Yes
[02:40] <pleia2> you might need some special configuration in Windows (not sure how that works, I don't use Windows) but otherwise it should work fine :)
[02:41] <LincMii> Thanks :) I think my biggest problem right now is adjusting to the CLI of ubuntu's server edition
[02:41]  * pleia2 nods
[02:42] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/index.html is helpful
[02:43] <LincMii> Thank you :)
[02:44] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/web-servers.html in particular
[02:44] <LincMii> If I wanted to install a file from a website however, such as the ubuntu.iso ... Can I do that through the cli?
[02:45] <pleia2> if you want to download a file from the command line you can use either curl or wget
[02:45] <pleia2> so: wget http://example.com/foo.txt
[02:45] <pleia2> or curl http://example.com/foo.txt
[02:46] <pleia2> but an ubuntu iso is a whole operating system, so I don't know how you'd install that from inside the operating system
[02:46] <LincMii> Oh okay. Thank you :)
[02:46] <LincMii> The .iso was just an example to make it more clear. I guess I made it more confusing :P
[02:48] <pleia2> :)
[02:48] <pleia2> wget and curl just download the file, it's up to you what you do with it from there
[02:49] <LincMii> That's what I needed to know :)
[02:49] <LincMii> Thanks a lot
[04:23] <Error404NotFound> holstein:
[04:23] <Error404NotFound> help
[04:25] <Error404NotFound> i cant close or minimize anything!
[04:26] <Jorb> fix your mouse
[04:26] <Jorb> j/k
[04:26] <Error404NotFound> ...
[04:26] <Error404NotFound> nothing to click
[04:26] <Jorb> can you terminate programs in terminal?
[04:27] <Jorb> oh the boxes arent there?
[04:27] <Error404NotFound> yep
[04:29] <Error404NotFound> how do i get it back
[04:29] <Error404NotFound> this is annoying
[04:30] <coalwater> u killed ur unity?
[04:30] <Error404NotFound> hell if i know what happened
[04:30] <Error404NotFound> i rebooted and wham
[04:30] <Error404NotFound> the boxes were gone
[04:30] <coalwater> can u run a comand from alt+f2 ?
[04:31] <Error404NotFound> my apple kb dont like alt f2
[04:31] <coalwater> hm
[04:31] <coalwater> ctrl+alt+t ?
[04:31] <Error404NotFound> i can open terminal
[04:31] <coalwater> compiz --replace
[04:31] <Error404NotFound> whats that do
[04:32] <coalwater> replaces the window decorator
[04:32] <coalwater> which i believe might be ur problem
[04:32] <Error404NotFound> Error: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[04:33] <coalwater> ur running it from tty0 ?
[04:33] <Error404NotFound> i dont use unity
[04:33] <coalwater> did u write the '--replace' ?
[04:33] <Error404NotFound> ?
[04:34] <Error404NotFound> c&p what you said
[04:34] <coalwater> hm, though it says use --replace in the error lol
[04:35] <coalwater> ok well, if u restart it'll get fixed, i just wanted to spare u the reboot
[04:35] <coalwater> or wait
[04:35] <coalwater> do something else
[04:35]  * Error404NotFound waits...
[04:36] <coalwater> service gdm restart, but it will restart ur session, if u want to save any thing before u try it
[04:37] <coalwater> and kill ur irc client too
[04:37] <coalwater> like i said lol
[04:39] <Error404NotFound> yay
[04:42] <coalwater> lol
[04:43] <coalwater> its a normal issue, whenever u get any problems with decorators just replace compiz
[04:44] <Error404NotFound> all i did was reboot
[04:44] <coalwater> yea, it not a perm problem, just happens randomly
[04:45] <coalwater> alt+f2 => 'compiz --replace'  should spare u the rebooting
[04:45] <Error404NotFound> alt f2 does nothing
[04:47] <coalwater> o well
[04:47] <Error404NotFound> apple kb
[04:47] <coalwater> anyway gotta go
[04:47] <Error404NotFound> peace
[04:47] <coalwater> see u
[06:01] <Error404NotFound> ok i think my computer is jacked..
[06:06] <philipballew> Error404NotFound, what now?
[06:06] <Error404NotFound> just weird crap goin on surfin..
[06:06] <Error404NotFound> searching on ebay for crap and it goes to diff sites..
[06:07] <philipballew> Error404NotFound, did you try with more then one browser
[06:07] <M0hi> Error404NotFound: offtopic talks in #ubuntu-begginers-team =]
[06:12] <Error404NotFound> whos off topic...
[06:14] <Error404NotFound> philipballew:  it stopped now...
[06:14] <philipballew> computers are crazy
[06:15] <Error404NotFound> makes me want to buy a mac..
[06:27] <truepurple> Where in ubuntu do I find my DVD drive? I don't see it in nautilus.
[06:27] <holstein> truepurple: you have a disc in there?
[06:27] <truepurple> yes
[06:28] <truepurple> I mean it sees the disk well enough to burn to it, but not to actually open it or AV scan it
[06:28] <holstein> AV scan?
[06:28] <truepurple> Its not listed in nautilus at all
[06:28] <truepurple> Antivirus
[06:29] <Error404NotFound> why you use av on linux..
[06:29] <holstein> truepurple: when i put a DVD in, it auto mounts
[06:29] <truepurple> Its for the windows program disk, which is why its especially frusterating that nautilus cant see it
[06:29] <holstein> thats the default action
[06:30] <holstein> windows program disc?
[06:30] <Error404NotFound> windoze is evil
[06:30] <truepurple> And I dont want to get more flake about AV, I'm sick of it
[06:30] <holstein> *the* ?
[06:30] <holstein> flake?
[06:30] <holstein> truepurple: if i had a disc that didnt auto mount, i would probably look at how it was made
[06:30] <Error404NotFound> tru dat
[06:31] <holstein> Error404NotFound: truepurple is a windows user
[06:31] <truepurple> I mean flak, I guess
[06:31] <Error404NotFound> pfft windoze
[06:31] <philipballew> truepurple, no need for av on a linux pc
[06:31] <truepurple> setting up dual booting
[06:31] <truepurple> Please save it philip
[06:31] <Error404NotFound> lol
[06:32] <Error404NotFound> he just jealous we have computers that run good
[06:32] <truepurple> the issue at hand is why its not seeing my DVD drive
[06:32] <Error404NotFound> and hes stuck limping by with windoze
[06:32] <truepurple> Hey, windows and my motherboard didn't have any trouble detecting my drive
[06:32] <holstein> Error404NotFound: its just not appropriate for this particular channel
[06:33] <Error404NotFound> what isnt
[06:33] <holstein> truepurple: the DVD you made?
[06:33] <holstein> Error404NotFound: it being the last few comments
[06:33] <truepurple> I burned it, yes
[06:33] <Error404NotFound> then its broke
[06:33] <truepurple> No it works
[06:33] <Error404NotFound> do other disks auto mount?
[06:33] <holstein> truepurple: im still not clear on what you burned...
[06:34] <truepurple> Why does it matter, it works on anything other then ubuntu which won't even see the drive itself
[06:34] <Error404NotFound> sounds like a pebkac error
[06:34] <holstein> truepurple: i feel like im missing some information
[06:34] <truepurple> I mean even brasero sees it
[06:35] <holstein> truepurple: did you burn the disc with buntu?
[06:35] <truepurple> yes
[06:35] <holstein> OK, so buntu does see the drive itself then?
[06:35] <holstein> you dont see an empty icon like on the windows systems
[06:35] <truepurple> but it can't find the disk/drive it itself burned to
[06:35] <holstein> truepurple: it?
[06:35] <truepurple> ubuntu
[06:35] <holstein> it wont
[06:35] <holstein> you can though
[06:36] <holstein> for me, i put a disc in, and it mounts
[06:36] <truepurple> That is not what is happening though
[06:36] <holstein> Error404NotFound has suggested trying a different disk
[06:36] <Error404NotFound> can you see drive in computer?
[06:36] <philipballew> is it in /media
[06:36] <truepurple> or if its mounting, its doing so somewhere invisible
[06:37] <truepurple> No I don't see any drive
[06:37] <holstein> truepurple: you wont see any drive
[06:37] <holstein> you dont see a blank icon like on the windows systems
[06:37] <holstein> its not like that
[06:37] <Error404NotFound> i see my drives
[06:37] <Error404NotFound> even without a disk in it
[06:37] <truepurple> Yes, I should be able to too
[06:37] <truepurple> but I dont
[06:38] <truepurple> I dont see any listings that I can't account for
[06:38] <Error404NotFound> home foldert
[06:38] <truepurple> I see my usb flash drive, but not my DVD drive
[06:38] <Error404NotFound> -t
[06:38] <holstein> truepurple: can you get *any* disc to mount automatically?
[06:38] <truepurple> my usb flash drive
[06:38] <holstein> truepurple: any optical disc
[06:38] <truepurple> And if its not mounting at all, how can ubuntu burn to it?
[06:39] <Error404NotFound> sounds like hardware issue
[06:39] <philipballew> is it possible the driver for the cd drive isnt there?
[06:39] <Error404NotFound> shut off computer unplug optical drive boot ubuntu
[06:39] <Error404NotFound> shut off again plug in again start ubuntu
[06:40] <truepurple> eh, sounds like a hassle
[06:40] <Error404NotFound> thats troubleshooting 101
[06:40] <truepurple> I will try another dvd, a movie of mine
[06:40] <holstein> truepurple: can you get *any* CD/DVD to mount automatically?
[06:40] <Error404NotFound> whats terminal to check drivess
[06:40] <Error404NotFound> like lspci
[06:41] <M0hi> fdisk -l ?
[06:41] <philipballew> it may be lsusb as well
[06:41] <holstein> yeah, ^^ thats what i use
[06:41] <holstein> sudo fdisk -l
[06:41] <philipballew> depends on how the cdive is installed
[06:41] <truepurple> I don't see that either
[06:41] <holstein> truepurple: you dont see?
[06:42] <truepurple> I don't see the movie dvd I installed
[06:42] <truepurple> I mean put in
[06:42] <Error404NotFound> like i said hardware
[06:42] <Error404NotFound> try what i suggested
[06:42] <holstein> truepurple: i say its a driver thing then
[06:42] <philipballew> truepurple, open the terminal and tyoe what Error404NotFound  and paste here
[06:43] <Error404NotFound> lol
[06:43] <philipballew> or say post a link to http://pastebin.com/
[06:43] <truepurple> That would explain why I can burn it, but not see it in nautilus?
[06:43] <holstein> truepurple: who knows how you burned to it, but the burned disc is not working corretly, right?
[06:43] <truepurple> philip, I am not getting any errors to put in pastebin
[06:43] <Error404NotFound> truepurple:  hit places computer
[06:43] <truepurple> other dvds arent showing either holstein
[06:43] <Error404NotFound> whats in there
[06:44] <truepurple> AH, there it is
[06:44] <Error404NotFound> ...
[06:44] <M0hi> Error404NotFound: do you know that this channel is logged?
[06:44] <M0hi> publically?
[06:44] <Error404NotFound> sure do
[06:45] <Error404NotFound> and?
[06:45] <M0hi> and do you know that this channel is only for talks related to help regarding Ubuntu and not the ebay and others?
[06:45] <philipballew> truepurple, we have it! congratulations
[06:45] <Error404NotFound> so
[06:45] <truepurple> Ok, so why did I have to go through there to see it? Why doesnt it show regularly in nautilus?
[06:45] <Error404NotFound> i mention a computer problem dude
[06:45] <Error404NotFound> get over yourself
[06:45] <truepurple> And why won't this DVD movie run or something?
[06:46] <philipballew> M0hi, his ebay problem was a computer problem. thus a ubuntu problem
[06:46] <M0hi> you have to use #ubuntu-beginners-team to talk about those non ubuntu related stuff
[06:46] <philipballew> M0hi, he was on the right channel i believe. it was ubuntu releated i think
[06:46] <Error404NotFound> if i go off topic you will know it...
[06:47] <philipballew> right click and open with a the movie player you have
[06:47] <philipballew> truepurple,
[06:47] <holstein> Error404NotFound: actually, you are offtopic, and its easy to join the OT channel :)
[06:47] <truepurple> philipballew: I did try that, first thing
[06:47] <M0hi> holstein: (;
[06:47] <truepurple> philipballew: I wouldn't have said anything without trying that first, I don't expect things like autorun from linux
[06:47] <philipballew> truepurple, what exactly did you do
[06:48] <truepurple> philipballew: Exactly as you said, I right clicked it and choose open
[06:48] <truepurple> nothing happened
[06:48] <philipballew> do you have a movie player installed?
[06:48] <Error404NotFound> lol
[06:48] <truepurple> I dont know, ubuntu doesnt come preinstalled with one?
[06:49] <philipballew> it does
[06:49] <truepurple> Yes I do, I watched some anime earlier from a file
[06:49] <holstein> they'll be codecs you'll need to install probably
[06:49] <philipballew> here ill find them
[06:49] <M0hi> truepurple: check for updates to confirm whether there is some missong driver
[06:49] <truepurple> Yeah but I didn't get any codec errors, I got nothing at all
[06:49] <M0hi> missing*
[06:49] <holstein> yeah, a kernel rev can really change things support-wise
[06:49] <philipballew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:50] <truepurple> Also the drive just says "cd/dvd drive" it doesn't label itself like there is anything in it.
[06:50] <philipballew> run this
[06:50] <philipballew> sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[06:51] <M0hi> truepurple: have you tried with other DVDs?
[06:51] <philipballew> and...
[06:51] <philipballew> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[06:51] <truepurple> philipballew: What are those?
[06:51] <philipballew> they install dvd codects
[06:51] <Error404NotFound> i imagine codecs
[06:52] <truepurple> I am pretty sure it is not a codec issue
[06:52] <philipballew> click the link above to see where i copyed them from
[06:52] <philipballew> youll still need them
[06:52] <truepurple> If it were codec issue, Id get a error message or something
[06:52] <Error404NotFound> yep i just installed them
[06:52] <philipballew> not nessesserly
[06:52] <holstein> truepurple: you dont get codecs with ubuntu, so it is quite likely
[06:52] <truepurple> Anyway I installed codecs I think when I made it so I could run that avi file
[06:52] <truepurple> I have run video files under this ubuntu
[06:52] <philipballew> ava and dvd codecs are 2 different installs
[06:53] <holstein> right, but what kinds...
[06:53] <truepurple> but why could lack of codecs cause it to not see the drives content or interact with it at all?
[06:53] <truepurple> when I tried to run the avi file before I had codecs for it, I got messages and stuff
[06:53] <truepurple> This is like there is nothing there
[06:53] <holstein> im not sure thats whats happening
[06:54] <holstein> it might just be unlike what you are used to
[06:54] <Error404NotFound> i still think its hardware
[06:54] <Error404NotFound> if you put in a real dvd movie and it dont play
[06:54] <truepurple> you mean driver?
[06:54] <Error404NotFound> hardware
[06:54] <Error404NotFound> i doubt its a driver
[06:54] <truepurple> You think the dvd drive is bad?
[06:54] <holstein> yeah, but from what i understand, it works fine in windows
[06:55] <holstein> thats supports the driver theory
[06:55] <truepurple> Well I actually havent managed to dual boot windows yet, still trying to figure out how to do it all right
[06:55] <philipballew> then lspci should tell the model. you can google that and see if theres a bug
[06:55] <truepurple> it gives me a headache
[06:55] <philipballew> install windows first
[06:55] <truepurple> More to it to do it right, especially how I want to do it
[06:56] <truepurple> and how come I have to go to this computer thing to see the drive at all
[06:56] <Error404NotFound> have to go to computer in windows to see drive...
[06:56] <truepurple> and if the drive is bad for reading, could it still burn just fine?
[06:57] <M0hi> truepurple: open terminal and typed lspci ?
[06:57] <truepurple> done
[06:57] <Error404NotFound> are you trying to read a burned disk?
[06:57] <M0hi> can you pastebin the result?
[06:57] <holstein> share it with us here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ truepurple
[06:58] <truepurple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/643840/
[06:58] <M0hi> sorry too much complicated words
[06:59]  * M0hi scratches head
[06:59] <philipballew> would lspci -vvv be better?
[07:00] <truepurple> I don't think so, thats even longer
[07:00] <holstein> maybe... i dont see what im looking for there
[07:01] <holstein> truepurple: it wont hurt to paste it in
[07:01] <philipballew> try lspci -vvv it shows even more deteal
[07:01] <Justice> 125days connection uptime for a dlink router, that has to be a record no ?
[07:01] <philipballew> also do lusb -vvv
[07:01] <truepurple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/643842/
[07:02] <M0hi> lsusb I beleive
[07:02] <truepurple> yeah lusb didnt work
[07:02] <philipballew> M0hi, your right lsusb -vvv
[07:02] <philipballew> typo
[07:02] <Error404NotFound> tru
[07:02] <Error404NotFound> sudo fdisk -l
[07:03] <Error404NotFound> erm thats partitions
[07:03] <holstein> Justice: not bad :)
[07:04] <truepurple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/643843/
[07:04] <Justice> maybe I should contact Dlink so they can update their track on uptime since dlinks often dont have higher uptime than a week ^^
[07:04] <Error404NotFound> ooh
[07:04] <Error404NotFound> cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep '(CD|DVD)'
[07:04] <M0hi> truepurple: dmesg | grep DVD
[07:05] <truepurple> Nothing happened
[07:05] <Error404NotFound> type what i said
[07:05] <Error404NotFound> will list all optical drives
[07:06] <Error404NotFound> and drivers
[07:06] <truepurple> It did not
[07:06] <truepurple> It just gave me a fresh prompt
[07:06] <holstein> Error404NotFound: yeah, and it listed something on my system
[07:06] <philipballew> mine to
[07:06] <M0hi> then the driver is missing
[07:06] <philipballew> it is indeed
[07:07] <holstein> and i dont have an optical drive
[07:07] <Justice> playing hide n seek :P
[07:07] <truepurple> without a driver, I could still burn using that drive?
[07:07] <M0hi> holstein: mouse
[07:07] <Error404NotFound> http://pastebin.com/mxXve33n
[07:07] <Error404NotFound> what it should look like ^
[07:08] <truepurple> but did you type "cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep"?
[07:08] <Error404NotFound> copy and paste it into terminal
[07:09] <Error404NotFound> cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep '(CD|DVD)'
[07:09] <truepurple> Usage: egrep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[07:09] <truepurple> Try `egrep --help' for more information.
[07:10] <Error404NotFound> this is what team viewer is for...
[07:11] <truepurple> ?
[07:11] <M0hi> truepurple: just try using grep
[07:11] <M0hi> instead of egrep
[07:11] <Error404NotFound> gives one complete access to a remote computer
[07:11] <truepurple> "dmesg | grep DVD", you mean?
[07:11] <truepurple> or just "grep"?
[07:12] <philipballew> teamviewer is nice
[07:12] <truepurple> eh, I don't want to welcome a bunch of strangers onto my PC anyway :p
[07:12] <M0hi> dmesg | grep DVD and also cat /var/log/dmesg | grep '(CD|DVD)'
[07:12] <truepurple> Plus I can tell you everyting I see just fine
[07:12] <M0hi> truepurple: true
[07:12] <M0hi> :)
[07:13] <Error404NotFound> you still have control when someone is on your computer using teamviewer
[07:13] <truepurple> I tried the former M0hi
[07:13] <truepurple> "cat /var/log/dmesg | grep" doesn't work, same message
[07:13] <M0hi> try the other one too and if it is not listing any, the go for a driver update. whats your DVD brand truepurple ?
[07:13] <truepurple> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[07:13] <truepurple> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[07:13] <M0hi> truepurple: what version are you using?
[07:14] <truepurple> 11.04
[07:14] <truepurple> 64bit
[07:14] <truepurple> Asus
[07:14] <M0hi> hmmm! grep command
[07:14] <M0hi> truepurple: when you updated the machine lastly?
[07:14] <Error404NotFound> i dont see why that command doesnt work..
[07:15] <Justice> Error404NotFound, noone can stop a rm /* command faster than i type it :P
[07:15] <Error404NotFound> i got that command from a post from like 4 years ago..
[07:15] <truepurple> M0hi: When did I? a few days ago
[07:15] <Error404NotFound> big kernal updates from yesterday..
[07:15] <M0hi> truepurple: you tried with other DVDs?
[07:15] <Error404NotFound> thats what i said
[07:15] <truepurple> I tried two movie dvds besides the one I burned
[07:15] <Error404NotFound> a real dvd movie or music cd
[07:16] <truepurple> Real movie DVDs, from official clam shell etc
[07:16] <Justice> wait what issue you got?
[07:17] <M0hi> is that working before? I mean before some days?
[07:17] <M0hi> Justice: DVD not showing up
[07:17] <Justice> i would check BIOS if its listed there.
[07:18] <Error404NotFound> did he not say he seen the drive in computer?
[07:18] <truepurple> Error404NotFound: I see the drive, but I can't use it
[07:18] <Error404NotFound> do what i said then
[07:18] <truepurple> It sits there like a dead icon or something
[07:18] <Error404NotFound> shutdown unplug the drive
[07:18] <truepurple> Not reflecting anything in it
[07:18] <Justice> try to mount the dvd then
[07:18] <Error404NotFound> startup
[07:19] <Error404NotFound> shutdown and plug back in
[07:19] <Error404NotFound> should reinstall driver
[07:20] <Justice> btw do a dmesg | grep rom do anything ?
[07:20] <truepurple> Error404NotFound:  Unplugging sata cable unnecessary?
[07:20] <Error404NotFound> just power cable
[07:21] <Justice> truepurple, the sata cable is not bent or anything close to 90c no?
[07:21] <Justice> (90 degrees)
[07:21] <Error404NotFound> try this truepurple
[07:21] <Error404NotFound> wodim --devices
[07:22] <Error404NotFound> should look like
[07:22] <Error404NotFound> 0  dev='/dev/scd0'	rwrw-- : 'PIONEER' 'DVD-RW  DVRTS08'
[07:22] <Justice> nice never knew that :P
[07:22] <Justice> PIONEER, arrent those expensive?
[07:22] <truepurple> Justice: right
[07:23] <Justice> right what?
[07:23] <truepurple> Justice: cables are fine, I put em in myself
[07:23] <Error404NotFound> its actualy a slot drive laptop dvd for a laptop
[07:23] <truepurple> Error404NotFound: 0  dev='/dev/scd0'	rwrw-- : 'ASUS' 'DRW-24B1ST   a'
[07:23] <Error404NotFound> in my desktop
[07:23] <truepurple> And asus is my DVD drive
[07:24] <Error404NotFound> then ubuntu sees it
[07:24] <truepurple> Not in the ways that count for using it, except for burning on it
[07:24] <Justice> hm  0  dev='/dev/scd0'	rwrw-- : 'TSSTcorp' 'CDDVDW SH-S223L'
[07:25] <truepurple> Are you still recommending I pull the power on my drive and stuff?
[07:25] <Error404NotFound> i would
[07:26] <Error404NotFound> try
[07:26] <Error404NotFound> mount dev/scd0
[07:26] <Error404NotFound> sorry
[07:27] <Error404NotFound> mount /dev/scd0
[07:27] <truepurple> It caused my DVD drive to spin up, but said "mount: can't find /dev/scd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[07:28] <Error404NotFound> pull the power plug once
[07:28] <Error404NotFound> and come back
[07:28] <Error404NotFound> did you have a cd in it?
[07:29] <M0hi> anyways, I ll say that the dvd driver is not proper maybe and will be advising to check the ASUS dvd driver for you particular brand.
[07:29] <truepurple> I got a bunch of windows and stuff open, and if I left IRC id need to record all this chat, so I am not eager to do that
[07:29] <Error404NotFound> mount /dev/cdrom
[07:30] <truepurple> mount: can't find /dev/cdrom in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:30] <Error404NotFound> ...
[07:30] <truepurple> and its a dvd drive (though it does play CDs like most all of them)
[07:32] <truepurple> Does the fact that it sees it with that one command, that it sees it to burn on it, and that it sees the drive but not anything on it, mean anything for whether its drivers or whether the power should be pulled and replugged while rebooting?
[07:32] <truepurple> I mean with process of elimination
[07:35] <Error404NotFound> its either driver problem or compatibility with linux
[07:36] <truepurple> But what about the fact that it burns disks?
[07:36] <truepurple> And does so just fine
[07:37] <Justice> maybe ubuntu is buthurt dunno
[07:38] <Justice> but there should be something in dmesg though.
[07:38] <Error404NotFound> maybe 2 diff drivers for it
[07:38] <Error404NotFound> for burning and readin
[07:38] <Error404NotFound> idk
[07:39] <Justice> dont think so
[07:39] <Justice> maybe a firmware issue on the drive though...
[07:39] <Justice> would google the drive and check if someone else got the iffies.
[07:40] <truepurple> You mean google to try to find a driver for this DVD drive?
[07:40] <truepurple> for linux?
[07:41] <Justice> no to check if other creatures on the planet earth got issues with it
[07:41] <Error404NotFound> http://www.firmwarehq.com/download_1593-file_DRW-24B1ST_103.zip.html
[07:41] <Error404NotFound> firmware for yer drive
[07:46] <truepurple> Would a fireware update work under linux though
[07:46] <truepurple> and do you really think firmware is the answer?
[07:48] <Error404NotFound> i would imagine it would work, it gives an md5
[07:48] <Error404NotFound> and it cant hurt..
[07:49] <truepurple> But it seems to be written to run under windows
[07:49] <Error404NotFound> didnt you say you dual boot?
[07:49] <truepurple> And how do I check my firmware level?
[07:49] <truepurple> I haven't set up dual boot yet
[07:52] <Error404NotFound> i dont think you can
[07:53] <Error404NotFound> but i doubt its the newest version
[07:54] <Error404NotFound> just try unplugging it once
[07:55] <truepurple> OK, but it will take some time to wrap up whats currently up
[07:55] <Error404NotFound> like internet searches?
[07:56] <truepurple> and irc chat info
[08:07] <truepurple> OK I will try now
[08:09] <Error404NotFound>  man i sure hope he dont unplug it without shutting it off..
[08:26] <RH43G0> Hey guys
[08:26] <LincMii2> Helo
[08:28] <RH43G0> Does anyone know how to install an AV on UBUNTU? I seem to get it installed, and it works fine, untill after the first update... I think it might be region issues... I havn't tried reinstalling
[08:29] <truepurple> ok that worked
[08:29] <truepurple> Its seeing the dvd
[08:30] <truepurple> but
[08:30] <truepurple> Could not read DVD. This may be because the DVD is encrypted and a DVD decryption library is not installed.
[08:30] <truepurple> What do I need to install again for that? What do I need to type or where do I need to go?
[08:32] <RH43G0> Have you tried the package manager and look for decryption SW?
[08:33] <truepurple> it found "Cryptonit",is that it
[08:33] <truepurple> Cryptonit is a client side cryptographic tool which allows you to
[08:33] <truepurple> encrypt/decrypt and sign/verify files with PKI (Public Key
[08:33] <truepurple> Infrastructure) certificates.
[08:34] <truepurple> I don't know what that means though
[08:35] <RH43G0> You can try it...
[08:36] <truepurple> It sounds like your guessing...
[08:38] <truepurple> Error404NotFound
[08:39] <truepurple> holstein:
[08:40] <RH43G0> Wel, I was guessing
[08:40] <RH43G0> If I were a pro user, I would not be in this room hey :) still on the experimental level, just like u m8
[08:40] <truepurple> bioterror:
[08:42] <truepurple> Anyone else here?
[08:47] <truepurple>  th^^
[08:56] <head_victim> truepurple: I assume you've looked at the DVD wiki for how to install the required software to play dvds? If not check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[09:03] <truepurple> I am restarting, brb
[09:35] <truepurple> head_victim: Is there a media player that has a true ratio setting and allows subtitles?
[09:36] <head_victim> truepurple: vlc is the one that most people find just work and have everything in my experience.
[09:36] <head_victim> I personally don't watch many DVDs on my computer. If that doesn't work give Xine a shot
[09:36] <truepurple> Ok thanks
[09:36] <head_victim> That link I gave before has some links to the different players - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[09:36] <truepurple> You dont know if either have true ratio or allows subtitles?
[09:37] <head_victim> I'm not sure what "true ratio" is
[09:37] <truepurple> I mean where the picture isnt stretched one way or another
[09:37] <head_victim> Ah that's usually configurable
[09:38] <truepurple> Stretched, or squished or anything like that, but instead just put everything in the original aspect ratio for that video
[09:38] <head_victim> Yeah it should be an option in most of the players
[09:38] <truepurple> where?
[09:38] <head_victim> Depends on the player, which one are you using?
[09:38] <truepurple> I see a ratio setting, but it doesnt say anything about true ratio
[09:39] <truepurple> one moment
[09:39] <truepurple> Totem Movie Player 2.32.0
[09:40] <truepurple> speaking of, it seems to have bugged up, how do i force close it?
[09:41] <head_victim> in a terminal type "sudo killall -9 totem"
[09:41] <head_victim> But that will kill all totem player instances
[09:41] <truepurple> thats fine
[09:41] <head_victim> http://sernaonubuntu.wikidot.com/totem has some shortcuts to help you with toem
[09:42] <truepurple> Is there a graphical way to do it?
[09:42] <head_victim> Using the close button should
[09:42] <truepurple> you mean when you right click it in task bar?
[09:42] <head_victim> Yep
[09:42] <truepurple> doesnt work
[09:42] <truepurple> another way?
[09:44] <head_victim> Open up the system monitor and try to kill it with the task manager there
[09:44] <head_victim> Otherwise just use the terminal command
[09:45] <truepurple> that worked, thanks
[09:46] <truepurple> totem seems really buggy
[09:46] <head_victim> Not sure, I've never used it
[09:47] <truepurple> codecs aren't attached to specific players, right?
[09:47] <head_victim> Not generally.
[09:47] <truepurple> When you have watched movies on your PC, what have you used?
[09:48] <head_victim> VLC is what I find works ok
[09:48] <truepurple> That is what you use?
[09:49] <head_victim> Yep
[09:50] <truepurple> with both totem and VLC I am having trouble with their menus
[09:51] <truepurple> When the menu is in front of the movie, it goes behind the movie
[09:51] <truepurple> and only flicker appears for a second
[09:51] <truepurple> when drawn down
[09:56] <truepurple> head_victim:
[09:57] <head_victim> Sorry truepurple I'm not sure why that is
[09:58] <truepurple> also, no sound with vlc
[10:06] <truepurple> well thanks anyway
[10:09] <bobweaver>  so I installed kde on my ubuntu 10.10 machine and like it. so much that I never use gnome and would like to get rid of it from the login menu is there a way to do this ?
[10:09] <bioterror> !purekde | bobweaver
[10:09] <ubot2> bobweaver: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[10:09] <bioterror> asda sdasdasd
[10:09] <bioterror> that's soooo outdated
[10:10] <bioterror> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde take this
[10:10] <bioterror> sorry, you had 10.190
[10:10] <bioterror> 10.10
[10:10] <bobweaver> thanks you guys I just dont want to loginto it anymore I have a bunch of programs and dont want to lose them but really like kde
[10:10] <bioterror> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekdemaverick.php this is correct
[10:11] <bobweaver> biotered that in a vbox and now I can not get to any desktop to load from the login menu
[10:11] <bobweaver> effen mose pad
[10:12] <bobweaver> effen mouse pad*
[10:13] <bobweaver> !purekde will do it from the terminal
[10:13] <ubot2> bobweaver: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:14] <bobweaver> it took me months to set it up this way and would like to just have it so at the login screen the only log in is kde not ubuntu desktop
[10:23] <LincMii> Question: Is it possible to use msn's video chat on Ubuntu?
[10:24] <bioterror> amsn supports webcams
[10:25] <head_victim> bioterror: last I checked they kept changing the protocol so amsn couldn't use it on the msn network
[10:25] <Sidewinder1> LincMii, Perhaps in "Wine", but it's rather doubtful.
[10:27] <bioterror> head_victim, I would rather try than just say "last time I checked"
[10:28] <bioterror> I'm not owning a webcam
[10:28] <bioterror> so I cant try
[10:28] <head_victim> bioterror: fair call, LincMii amsn was the client that was the better one around when I last checked, feel free to let us know if it still works :)
[10:29] <LincMii> Thanks guys :)
[10:29] <LincMii> Will give amsn a shot when I get the chance
[11:00] <M0hi> bioterror: nice words ;)
[13:01] <Dark_owl> i nedd help
[13:01] <Dark_owl> i can connect my wifi well but can't browse internet
[17:38] <schmo> hey yo
[19:11] <s-fox> Hello.
[19:13] <Sidewinder1> Good Afternoon. s-
[23:06] <prety> I need help-
[23:07] <charlie-tca> !help
[23:07] <ubot2> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:07] <prety> m installing ubuntu 11.04 from cd-rom
[23:08] <bioterror> press couple of times next and add some text into boxes ;)
[23:08] <prety> but encountring initramfs error
[23:08] <prety> sorry
[23:09] <bioterror> what kind of error
[23:11] <prety> inintramfs mount : mounting dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed : Input/Output error cannot mount dev/loop0(/cdrom/casper/filesysteem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[23:11] <bioterror> check md5sum of your iso file
[23:11] <bioterror> and then burn the CD-ROM again
[23:12] <prety> its correct
[23:13] <prety> first i tried 10.08 than 11.04 each time the same problem
[23:13] <bioterror> can your computer boot from USB?
[23:13] <prety> i haven't tried yet
[23:13] <bioterror> it can or it cant
[23:14] <bioterror> you can check that from the BIOS
[23:14] <bioterror> and if it can, make yourself a USB Pen Drive with unetbootin for example
[23:14] <bioterror> !unetbootin | prety
[23:14] <ubot2> prety: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:15] <prety> is there something wrong with cd installation??
[23:16] <charlie-tca> might be a bad download, even if it passes md5
[23:17] <s-fox> Burn at lowest possible speed?
[23:17] <s-fox> Use alternative iso?
[23:18] <prety> i have tried it on other pc and it is working properly