=== _CommandeR_ is now known as Justice [01:07] has anyone else noticed their battery life got longer? apt-get updated and now my bettery is lasting an extra hour [01:09] how would an update save power... [01:10] Kernel update might [01:11] by an hour? [01:11] is there a power save setting in ubuntu? [01:11] possibly dimmed his display [01:12] Error404NotFound, yeah, it went from 3.5 to 5 hours. it might be a kernal update. seemes weird if my battery all the sudden started pumping more power out [01:13] thats one serious kernal update if thats what it is [01:14] i never use my laptop so i wouldnt know about battery life [01:14] This talks about the issue (not fix) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTM3NQ [01:18] ima have to update my laptop now.. [01:29] Unit193, this seemes like its crazy. interesting bug [02:28] Can I install software off a website using Ubuntu Natty Server Edition? [02:29] Is anyone in here? [02:31] Hi. I am not familiar with it. [02:33] Is anyone familiar with hosting an Ubuntu LAMP server on VirtualBox? [02:33] Sorry. [02:34] I am still learning myself. Perhaps Seidos knows of this. [02:34] LincMii: not really sure what you mean "install software off a website" [02:35] and I've run LAMP in lots of virtualized environments, do you have specific questions about it? [02:37] pleia2: I'm trying to experiement and learn about hosting a web environment from home through VirtualBox and Ubuntu 11.04 server edition [02:37] cool [02:37] what's your host operating system? [02:38] Windows 7 Prof [02:38] 64-bit [02:39] ah [02:39] do you want this ubuntu server to be accessible to the internet? [02:39] Yes [02:40] you might need some special configuration in Windows (not sure how that works, I don't use Windows) but otherwise it should work fine :) [02:41] Thanks :) I think my biggest problem right now is adjusting to the CLI of ubuntu's server edition [02:41] * pleia2 nods [02:42] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/index.html is helpful [02:43] Thank you :) [02:44] https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/web-servers.html in particular [02:44] If I wanted to install a file from a website however, such as the ubuntu.iso ... Can I do that through the cli? [02:45] if you want to download a file from the command line you can use either curl or wget [02:45] so: wget http://example.com/foo.txt [02:45] or curl http://example.com/foo.txt [02:46] but an ubuntu iso is a whole operating system, so I don't know how you'd install that from inside the operating system [02:46] Oh okay. Thank you :) [02:46] The .iso was just an example to make it more clear. I guess I made it more confusing :P [02:48] :) [02:48] wget and curl just download the file, it's up to you what you do with it from there [02:49] That's what I needed to know :) [02:49] Thanks a lot [04:23] holstein: [04:23] help [04:25] i cant close or minimize anything! [04:26] fix your mouse [04:26] j/k [04:26] ... [04:26] nothing to click [04:26] can you terminate programs in terminal? [04:27] oh the boxes arent there? [04:27] yep [04:29] how do i get it back [04:29] this is annoying [04:30] u killed ur unity? [04:30] hell if i know what happened [04:30] i rebooted and wham [04:30] the boxes were gone [04:30] can u run a comand from alt+f2 ? [04:31] my apple kb dont like alt f2 [04:31] hm [04:31] ctrl+alt+t ? [04:31] i can open terminal [04:31] compiz --replace [04:31] whats that do [04:32] replaces the window decorator [04:32] which i believe might be ur problem [04:32] Error: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager. [04:33] ur running it from tty0 ? [04:33] i dont use unity [04:33] did u write the '--replace' ? [04:33] ? [04:34] c&p what you said [04:34] hm, though it says use --replace in the error lol [04:35] ok well, if u restart it'll get fixed, i just wanted to spare u the reboot [04:35] or wait [04:35] do something else [04:35] * Error404NotFound waits... [04:36] service gdm restart, but it will restart ur session, if u want to save any thing before u try it [04:37] and kill ur irc client too [04:37] like i said lol [04:39] yay [04:42] lol [04:43] its a normal issue, whenever u get any problems with decorators just replace compiz [04:44] all i did was reboot [04:44] yea, it not a perm problem, just happens randomly [04:45] alt+f2 => 'compiz --replace' should spare u the rebooting [04:45] alt f2 does nothing [04:47] o well [04:47] apple kb [04:47] anyway gotta go [04:47] peace [04:47] see u [06:01] ok i think my computer is jacked.. [06:06] Error404NotFound, what now? [06:06] just weird crap goin on surfin.. [06:06] searching on ebay for crap and it goes to diff sites.. [06:07] Error404NotFound, did you try with more then one browser [06:07] Error404NotFound: offtopic talks in #ubuntu-begginers-team =] [06:12] whos off topic... [06:14] philipballew: it stopped now... [06:14] computers are crazy [06:15] makes me want to buy a mac.. [06:27] Where in ubuntu do I find my DVD drive? I don't see it in nautilus. [06:27] truepurple: you have a disc in there? [06:27] yes [06:28] I mean it sees the disk well enough to burn to it, but not to actually open it or AV scan it [06:28] AV scan? [06:28] Its not listed in nautilus at all [06:28] Antivirus [06:29] why you use av on linux.. [06:29] truepurple: when i put a DVD in, it auto mounts [06:29] Its for the windows program disk, which is why its especially frusterating that nautilus cant see it [06:29] thats the default action [06:30] windows program disc? [06:30] windoze is evil [06:30] And I dont want to get more flake about AV, I'm sick of it [06:30] *the* ? [06:30] flake? [06:30] truepurple: if i had a disc that didnt auto mount, i would probably look at how it was made [06:30] tru dat [06:31] Error404NotFound: truepurple is a windows user [06:31] I mean flak, I guess [06:31] pfft windoze [06:31] truepurple, no need for av on a linux pc [06:31] setting up dual booting [06:31] Please save it philip [06:31] lol [06:32] he just jealous we have computers that run good [06:32] the issue at hand is why its not seeing my DVD drive [06:32] and hes stuck limping by with windoze [06:32] Hey, windows and my motherboard didn't have any trouble detecting my drive [06:32] Error404NotFound: its just not appropriate for this particular channel [06:33] what isnt [06:33] truepurple: the DVD you made? [06:33] Error404NotFound: it being the last few comments [06:33] I burned it, yes [06:33] then its broke [06:33] No it works [06:33] do other disks auto mount? [06:33] truepurple: im still not clear on what you burned... [06:34] Why does it matter, it works on anything other then ubuntu which won't even see the drive itself [06:34] sounds like a pebkac error [06:34] truepurple: i feel like im missing some information [06:34] I mean even brasero sees it [06:35] truepurple: did you burn the disc with buntu? [06:35] yes [06:35] OK, so buntu does see the drive itself then? [06:35] you dont see an empty icon like on the windows systems [06:35] but it can't find the disk/drive it itself burned to [06:35] truepurple: it? [06:35] ubuntu [06:35] it wont [06:35] you can though [06:36] for me, i put a disc in, and it mounts [06:36] That is not what is happening though [06:36] Error404NotFound has suggested trying a different disk [06:36] can you see drive in computer? [06:36] is it in /media [06:36] or if its mounting, its doing so somewhere invisible [06:37] No I don't see any drive [06:37] truepurple: you wont see any drive [06:37] you dont see a blank icon like on the windows systems [06:37] its not like that [06:37] i see my drives [06:37] even without a disk in it [06:37] Yes, I should be able to too [06:37] but I dont [06:38] I dont see any listings that I can't account for [06:38] home foldert [06:38] I see my usb flash drive, but not my DVD drive [06:38] -t [06:38] truepurple: can you get *any* disc to mount automatically? [06:38] my usb flash drive [06:38] truepurple: any optical disc [06:38] And if its not mounting at all, how can ubuntu burn to it? [06:39] sounds like hardware issue [06:39] is it possible the driver for the cd drive isnt there? [06:39] shut off computer unplug optical drive boot ubuntu [06:39] shut off again plug in again start ubuntu [06:40] eh, sounds like a hassle [06:40] thats troubleshooting 101 [06:40] I will try another dvd, a movie of mine [06:40] truepurple: can you get *any* CD/DVD to mount automatically? [06:40] whats terminal to check drivess [06:40] like lspci [06:41] fdisk -l ? [06:41] it may be lsusb as well [06:41] yeah, ^^ thats what i use [06:41] sudo fdisk -l [06:41] depends on how the cdive is installed [06:41] I don't see that either [06:41] truepurple: you dont see? [06:42] I don't see the movie dvd I installed [06:42] I mean put in [06:42] like i said hardware [06:42] try what i suggested [06:42] truepurple: i say its a driver thing then [06:42] truepurple, open the terminal and tyoe what Error404NotFound and paste here [06:43] lol [06:43] or say post a link to http://pastebin.com/ [06:43] That would explain why I can burn it, but not see it in nautilus? [06:43] truepurple: who knows how you burned to it, but the burned disc is not working corretly, right? [06:43] philip, I am not getting any errors to put in pastebin [06:43] truepurple: hit places computer [06:43] other dvds arent showing either holstein [06:43] whats in there [06:44] AH, there it is [06:44] ... [06:44] Error404NotFound: do you know that this channel is logged? [06:44] publically? [06:44] sure do [06:45] and? [06:45] and do you know that this channel is only for talks related to help regarding Ubuntu and not the ebay and others? [06:45] truepurple, we have it! congratulations [06:45] so [06:45] Ok, so why did I have to go through there to see it? Why doesnt it show regularly in nautilus? [06:45] i mention a computer problem dude [06:45] get over yourself [06:45] And why won't this DVD movie run or something? [06:46] M0hi, his ebay problem was a computer problem. thus a ubuntu problem [06:46] you have to use #ubuntu-beginners-team to talk about those non ubuntu related stuff [06:46] M0hi, he was on the right channel i believe. it was ubuntu releated i think [06:46] if i go off topic you will know it... [06:47] right click and open with a the movie player you have [06:47] truepurple, [06:47] Error404NotFound: actually, you are offtopic, and its easy to join the OT channel :) [06:47] philipballew: I did try that, first thing [06:47] holstein: (; [06:47] philipballew: I wouldn't have said anything without trying that first, I don't expect things like autorun from linux [06:47] truepurple, what exactly did you do [06:48] philipballew: Exactly as you said, I right clicked it and choose open [06:48] nothing happened [06:48] do you have a movie player installed? [06:48] lol [06:48] I dont know, ubuntu doesnt come preinstalled with one? [06:49] it does [06:49] Yes I do, I watched some anime earlier from a file [06:49] they'll be codecs you'll need to install probably [06:49] here ill find them [06:49] truepurple: check for updates to confirm whether there is some missong driver [06:49] Yeah but I didn't get any codec errors, I got nothing at all [06:49] missing* [06:49] yeah, a kernel rev can really change things support-wise [06:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs [06:50] Also the drive just says "cd/dvd drive" it doesn't label itself like there is anything in it. [06:50] run this [06:50] sudo apt-get install libdvdread4 [06:51] truepurple: have you tried with other DVDs? [06:51] and... [06:51] sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh [06:51] philipballew: What are those? [06:51] they install dvd codects [06:51] i imagine codecs [06:52] I am pretty sure it is not a codec issue [06:52] click the link above to see where i copyed them from [06:52] youll still need them [06:52] If it were codec issue, Id get a error message or something [06:52] yep i just installed them [06:52] not nessesserly [06:52] truepurple: you dont get codecs with ubuntu, so it is quite likely [06:52] Anyway I installed codecs I think when I made it so I could run that avi file [06:52] I have run video files under this ubuntu [06:52] ava and dvd codecs are 2 different installs [06:53] right, but what kinds... [06:53] but why could lack of codecs cause it to not see the drives content or interact with it at all? [06:53] when I tried to run the avi file before I had codecs for it, I got messages and stuff [06:53] This is like there is nothing there [06:53] im not sure thats whats happening [06:54] it might just be unlike what you are used to [06:54] i still think its hardware [06:54] if you put in a real dvd movie and it dont play [06:54] you mean driver? [06:54] hardware [06:54] i doubt its a driver [06:54] You think the dvd drive is bad? [06:54] yeah, but from what i understand, it works fine in windows [06:55] thats supports the driver theory [06:55] Well I actually havent managed to dual boot windows yet, still trying to figure out how to do it all right [06:55] then lspci should tell the model. you can google that and see if theres a bug [06:55] it gives me a headache [06:55] install windows first [06:55] More to it to do it right, especially how I want to do it [06:56] and how come I have to go to this computer thing to see the drive at all [06:56] have to go to computer in windows to see drive... [06:56] and if the drive is bad for reading, could it still burn just fine? [06:57] truepurple: open terminal and typed lspci ? [06:57] done [06:57] are you trying to read a burned disk? [06:57] can you pastebin the result? [06:57] share it with us here http://paste.ubuntu.com/ truepurple [06:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/643840/ [06:58] sorry too much complicated words [06:59] * M0hi scratches head [06:59] would lspci -vvv be better? [07:00] I don't think so, thats even longer [07:00] maybe... i dont see what im looking for there [07:01] truepurple: it wont hurt to paste it in [07:01] try lspci -vvv it shows even more deteal [07:01] 125days connection uptime for a dlink router, that has to be a record no ? [07:01] also do lusb -vvv [07:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/643842/ [07:02] lsusb I beleive [07:02] yeah lusb didnt work [07:02] M0hi, your right lsusb -vvv [07:02] typo [07:02] tru [07:02] sudo fdisk -l [07:03] erm thats partitions [07:03] Justice: not bad :) [07:04] http://paste.ubuntu.com/643843/ [07:04] maybe I should contact Dlink so they can update their track on uptime since dlinks often dont have higher uptime than a week ^^ [07:04] ooh [07:04] cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep '(CD|DVD)' [07:04] truepurple: dmesg | grep DVD [07:05] Nothing happened [07:05] type what i said [07:05] will list all optical drives [07:06] and drivers [07:06] It did not [07:06] It just gave me a fresh prompt [07:06] Error404NotFound: yeah, and it listed something on my system [07:06] mine to [07:06] then the driver is missing [07:06] it is indeed [07:07] and i dont have an optical drive [07:07] playing hide n seek :P [07:07] without a driver, I could still burn using that drive? [07:07] holstein: mouse [07:07] http://pastebin.com/mxXve33n [07:07] what it should look like ^ [07:08] but did you type "cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep"? [07:08] copy and paste it into terminal [07:09] cat /var/log/dmesg | egrep '(CD|DVD)' [07:09] Usage: egrep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... [07:09] Try `egrep --help' for more information. [07:10] this is what team viewer is for... [07:11] ? [07:11] truepurple: just try using grep [07:11] instead of egrep [07:11] gives one complete access to a remote computer [07:11] "dmesg | grep DVD", you mean? [07:11] or just "grep"? [07:12] teamviewer is nice [07:12] eh, I don't want to welcome a bunch of strangers onto my PC anyway :p [07:12] dmesg | grep DVD and also cat /var/log/dmesg | grep '(CD|DVD)' [07:12] Plus I can tell you everyting I see just fine [07:12] truepurple: true [07:12] :) [07:13] you still have control when someone is on your computer using teamviewer [07:13] I tried the former M0hi [07:13] "cat /var/log/dmesg | grep" doesn't work, same message [07:13] try the other one too and if it is not listing any, the go for a driver update. whats your DVD brand truepurple ? [07:13] Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]... [07:13] Try `grep --help' for more information. [07:13] truepurple: what version are you using? [07:14] 11.04 [07:14] 64bit [07:14] Asus [07:14] hmmm! grep command [07:14] truepurple: when you updated the machine lastly? [07:14] i dont see why that command doesnt work.. [07:15] Error404NotFound, noone can stop a rm /* command faster than i type it :P [07:15] i got that command from a post from like 4 years ago.. [07:15] M0hi: When did I? a few days ago [07:15] big kernal updates from yesterday.. [07:15] truepurple: you tried with other DVDs? [07:15] thats what i said [07:15] I tried two movie dvds besides the one I burned [07:15] a real dvd movie or music cd [07:16] Real movie DVDs, from official clam shell etc [07:16] wait what issue you got? [07:17] is that working before? I mean before some days? [07:17] Justice: DVD not showing up [07:17] i would check BIOS if its listed there. [07:18] did he not say he seen the drive in computer? [07:18] Error404NotFound: I see the drive, but I can't use it [07:18] do what i said then [07:18] It sits there like a dead icon or something [07:18] shutdown unplug the drive [07:18] Not reflecting anything in it [07:18] try to mount the dvd then [07:18] startup [07:19] shutdown and plug back in [07:19] should reinstall driver [07:20] btw do a dmesg | grep rom do anything ? [07:20] Error404NotFound: Unplugging sata cable unnecessary? [07:20] just power cable [07:21] truepurple, the sata cable is not bent or anything close to 90c no? [07:21] (90 degrees) [07:21] try this truepurple [07:21] wodim --devices [07:22] should look like [07:22] 0 dev='/dev/scd0' rwrw-- : 'PIONEER' 'DVD-RW DVRTS08' [07:22] nice never knew that :P [07:22] PIONEER, arrent those expensive? [07:22] Justice: right [07:23] right what? [07:23] Justice: cables are fine, I put em in myself [07:23] its actualy a slot drive laptop dvd for a laptop [07:23]