| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: just saw you post on g+. Can I just say that I thought american politics was entertaining. AU politics is downright comical! Tony Abbot FTW (in enterainment value). | 01:43 |
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| RAOF | Enjoy it while it lasts. We don't *always* have fools for an opposition leader ;) | 01:44 |
| chowder | Has anyone here ever used the xen hypervisor? I want to run it on my laptop with Ubuntu 11.04 as the dom0. I've looked online for a how-to but to no avail. Any ideas? | 01:47 |
| TheMuso | I find myself not playing with GPlus much, probably because the web experience is not entirely accessible, and I'd feel better with a desktop client. | 01:49 |
| RAOF | It's got a nice android client, which will therefore also be pretty inaccessible :/ | 01:50 |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso: they def need more apps like for iPhone. Android seems to work well, though probably not accessible. | 01:50 |
| TheMuso | Yeah, I want Apple to pull their finger out and approve the iPhone app. I don't expect the app for Linux from google to be accessible. | 01:51 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I heard they don't hvae public API yet so that is why apps aren't coming yet | 01:51 |
| TheMuso | Thought as much. | 01:51 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kenvandine: gwibber...coming down right now :) | 01:51 |
| RAOF | Google have an iPhone and WP7 app in the store process, though. | 01:52 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: oh, nice..can't wait for those...can't wait to be done with twitter and facebook (sorry gwibber :( ) | 01:53 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kenvandine: looks like my icon issue with gwibber is fixed. I am still having the tiling issue, but I think I know what is going on and can explain. | 01:53 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: I actually really like twitter, and I don't use facebook. | 01:54 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kenvandine: basically, if a complete tile cannot be shown at the bottom of the window, it displays a blank tile instead of a partial tile... | 01:54 |
| jasoncwarner_ | kenvandine: we can talk when you are awake since, uh, you aren't now | 01:54 |
| * jasoncwarner_ always talks to himself | 01:54 | |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso: I "like" twitter, but it annoys me in some ways as well. I hate facebook. hate. | 01:55 |
| TheMuso | jasoncwarner_: What do you not like about twitter? | 01:55 |
| jasoncwarner_ | mostly has to do with technology (which I grant most people won't care about). | 01:55 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I don't like the fact that if you follow the same people on two accoutns you might not see all their tweets. | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 01:56 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I also don't like the random unfollows (which is still a problem). | 01:56 |
| TheMuso | Well I only ever use twitter from a client if I can help it, and since I still have my mbp here with OS X, I am currently using an OS X client when at home. | 01:57 |
| TheMuso | And then there is tweatlist for my iphone. | 01:58 |
| TheMuso | So the website be screwed IMO. | 01:58 |
| jasoncwarner_ | TheMuso: :) | 01:59 |
| jasoncwarner_ | hey robert_ancell ... which greeter-theme do I set in lightdm.conf? do I set the one in [seat-0] (I see two in my config, both are commented out). | 02:06 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, the one in seat-0 | 02:07 |
| * RAOF will be interested to hear if you get anything but a black screen, too. | 02:07 | |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell: thanks...set and rebooting...be back in a bit. | 02:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: I'll let you know in a few :) | 02:07 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF robert_ancell yeah, I got a black screen as well. | 02:10 |
| robert_ancell | jasoncwarner_, can you look in /var/log/lightdm | 02:11 |
| robert_ancell | the lightdm.log and the greeter log | 02:11 |
| jasoncwarner_ | robert_ancell: anything I am looking for? | 02:13 |
| jasoncwarner_ | btw...reverted change to .conf file and I still have black screen | 02:14 |
| robert_ancell | particularly the greeter log, did it print an error? | 02:14 |
| robert_ancell | can you put the logs in a pastebin? | 02:14 |
| jasoncwarner_ | one sec | 02:14 |
| robert_ancell | i don't think it does | 02:16 |
| jasoncwarner_ | RAOF: I no longer have black screen | 02:45 |
| jasoncwarner_ | I have lightdm unity config | 02:45 |
| RAOF | Oooh, how? | 02:45 |
| jasoncwarner_ | it looked like I didn't have unity-greeter installed | 02:45 |
| jasoncwarner_ | so after I installed it and rebooted, things were there. | 02:45 |
| cyphermox | gah, I think I really hate evolution | 03:10 |
| nano__ | how to use the theme of the Ubuntu netbook edition 10.04 en ubuntu 10.10 desktop? any idea? | 03:26 |
| nano__ | somebody? | 03:29 |
| pitti | Good morning | 04:21 |
| jbicha | pitti: hi | 04:25 |
| TheMuso | Morning pitti. | 04:25 |
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| cyphermox | hey pitti! | 05:25 |
| cyphermox | (omg, it's so late, didn't realize it was this bad) | 05:26 |
| pitti | hey cyphermox! you're up late | 05:26 |
| cyphermox | pitti: I was finishing up hacking on usb_modeswitch while waiting for various rebuilds of evolution | 05:26 |
| cyphermox | I really think I'm done now, and the output is almost exactly the same here with my device | 05:27 |
| pitti | nice! | 05:27 |
| pitti | brb, need to reboot again to debug /run breakage | 05:27 |
| cyphermox | pitti: ok | 05:27 |
| cyphermox | pitti: if you're still interested in doing code review, everything is there: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+junk/usb-modeswitch | 05:35 |
| pitti | cyphermox: opened a tab for it, will do | 05:36 |
| pitti | thanks for this! | 05:36 |
| cyphermox | sure, thanks | 05:36 |
| cyphermox | no rush :) | 05:36 |
| cyphermox | right now I only know for certain it works with ONE device... mine ;) | 05:37 |
| cyphermox | I'll try my old Rogers stick again to see, and I might be able to find other testers with various types of devices | 05:37 |
| jbicha | pitti: could you take a look at this merge proposal: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/gdm/fix-gdm-path | 05:37 |
| pitti | jbicha: queueing | 05:38 |
| jbicha | cool, thanks | 05:38 |
| cyphermox | alright, I'm off to bed now, ttyl | 05:52 |
| chrisccoulson | ha, my daughter has learnt a new word - cake! | 07:20 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: lol - I assume she already knows "WANT" too ;) ? | 07:20 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - not yet, but i'm sure that will be next ;) | 07:21 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:22 |
| pitti | heh, cute! | 07:23 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 07:23 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, she talks quite a bit now ;) | 07:23 |
| pitti | I thought they have some equivalent of "want" from the day they get born :) | 07:23 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: splendid, thanks! | 07:23 |
| pitti | now that my ecryptfs /home/martin actually works again :) | 07:23 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 07:23 |
| mvo | pitti: do we have a policy for schema naming? for update-notifier I wonder if it should be com.canonical or com.ubuntu-update-notifer. I would prefer the later, but don't really mind much either way | 07:33 |
| pitti | mvo: no policy in that regard; I think com.ubuntu.update-notifier is fine | 07:33 |
| mvo | great, thanks | 07:34 |
| chrisccoulson | b'ah, i wish people would stop reporting crash reports against firefox without provide a backtrace or link to a crash ID | 07:38 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i need to create some bug reporting guidelines which states "your bug will most likely be ignored if you don't provide this information" | 07:38 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 07:58 |
| BigWhale | rodrigo_, morning :) | 08:02 |
| rodrigo_ | hi BigWhale | 08:06 |
| BigWhale | rodrigo_, I think I found another bug in EDS. I've sent you mail about it. | 08:08 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, looking | 08:08 |
| pitti | mvo: yay update-notifier port | 08:30 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, mterry is my hero of the day :) | 08:31 |
| jbicha | pitti: thanks, that bug had been bugging me for awhile, finally figured out how Debian avoided it | 08:39 |
| jbicha | I also have this if someone would like to sponsor it: https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/transmission/transmission-2.32 | 08:41 |
| chrisccoulson | lol @ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 | 08:47 |
| BigWhale | chrisccoulson, yeah, this guy is my hero! ;) | 08:49 |
| rodrigo_ | BigWhale, your message is empty, seems that's happening to some people with evo 3.1.3 :( | 09:01 |
| BigWhale | yeah | 09:02 |
| BigWhale | I noticed | 09:02 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a conspiracy! | 09:03 |
| chrisccoulson | evolution is sending empty mails to get people to switch to thunderbird | 09:03 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, chrisccoulson is patching evo to make it fail :) | 09:03 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 09:03 |
| chrisccoulson | seriously though, wth has happened to evolution? i've never known it to be this broken before :/ | 09:04 |
| BigWhale | rodrigo_, anyway... in short: http://pastebin.com/fquz3cxN this is the C source that works... and the equivalent in python that doesn't work... The assertion error goes away if the contacts list isn't empty and it seems that EDS will perform a search. However, nothing is returned. :'( | 09:04 |
| rodrigo_ | BigWhale, yes, seems to be what I told you yesterday, the introspection comments for &contacts | 09:07 |
| rodrigo_ | will try a fix in a bit | 09:07 |
| BigWhale | rodrigo_, you're the man! :) | 09:07 |
| BigWhale | I need this to make kenvandine happy :> | 09:08 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 09:08 |
| rodrigo_ | but anyway, isn't gwibber being rewritten in vala? | 09:08 |
| rodrigo_ | vala uses the same introspection stuff, so not that it will work better in vala without the fix, but why are you using python? | 09:09 |
| BigWhale | this is the backend that is still written in python | 09:10 |
| rodrigo_ | ah, ok | 09:12 |
| BigWhale | yeah, gwibber is multilingual! :> | 09:17 |
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| ricotz | pitti, hello, is it already known that cups has some trouble after the /run,/var/run transition? | 09:30 |
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| pitti | ricotz: not known to me | 09:31 |
| ricotz | caused by appamor | 09:31 |
| ricotz | http://paste.debian.net/plain/122850 | 09:31 |
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| ricotz | perhaps the apparmor profile needs an update? or something is broken here :\ | 09:36 |
| pitti | ricotz: ah, thanks; I'll get that fixed in bzr right now | 09:37 |
| ricotz | so you can confirm it? | 09:37 |
| jbicha | bug 810270 | 09:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 810270 in apparmor "/run transition wreaking havoc on profiles" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810270 | 09:37 |
| ricotz | ah ok ;) | 09:37 |
| desrt | DBO: awake? | 09:38 |
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| pitti | chrisccoulson: do you happen to have a minute to fix bug 810258? (missing Replaces:/Breaks:) | 10:32 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 810258 in yelp "package libyelp0 3.1.1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite /usr/lib/libyelp.so.0.0.0, which is also in package yelp 3.0.3-0ubuntu2" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810258 | 10:32 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I'm still busy with unbreaking the /run transition | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, sure | 10:32 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: appreciated, thanks | 10:32 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: we seem to be severely low on Europe-TZ developers today .. | 10:33 |
| pitti | no didrocks, no seb128, no rodrigo | 10:33 |
| desrt | pitti: hello! | 10:33 |
| pitti | bonjour desrt, ca va? | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, it seems that the french are slacking today ;) | 10:33 |
| desrt | uh. good. | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure about rodrigo though | 10:33 |
| desrt | :) | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | hi desrt | 10:33 |
| desrt | hey chris | 10:33 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no, busy with attacking the Bastille again | 10:33 |
| desrt | didrocks, at least (and seb too maybe?) are at RMLL | 10:33 |
| desrt | and yes. bastille day. | 10:33 |
| desrt | rodrigo is just a lazy mexican | 10:34 |
| * desrt wonders if the french enjoy doing the 'make it a 5-day weekend' trick | 10:34 | |
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| chrisccoulson | hmmm, we got 2 of these so far since the gconf update yesterday: bug 810371 | 10:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 810371 in gconf "gsettings-data-convert crashed with SIGSEGV in gconf_client_get_default()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810371 | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | has anyone else recreated that? i don't see it here | 10:39 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: fallout from dbusification? | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i guess so | 10:40 |
| pitti | no, just evolution calendar is broken beyond repair right now :( | 10:40 |
| ricotz | regarding cups: somehow cups-pk-helper should be pulled in to have the support in g-c-c | 10:40 |
| pitti | but not necessarily related to dbus | 10:40 |
| pitti | ricotz: bug 808829 | 10:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 808829 in cups-pk-helper "[MIR] cups-pk-helper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808829 | 10:40 |
| pitti | but it's not clear to me yet whether we actually need it | 10:41 |
| ricotz | thanks | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, the calendar was broken for me at the rally :( | 10:41 |
| ricotz | pitti, it improves the adminstration | 10:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it still worked here a few days ago | 10:42 |
| * ricotz should search for the bugs first and then complain :\ | 10:42 | |
| pitti | no worries :) | 10:43 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, my, the gnome-settings-daemon "does your display look ok" confirmation dialog is seriously broken with the compiz dialog handler plugin enabled | 10:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i just docked my laptop, reconfigured my screen, and the dialog size grew continuously until my laptop froze | 10:51 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, seems gnome-shell and gnome-panel need a rebuild with the new evo | 11:08 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: bug 808419 | 11:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 808419 in gnome-control-center "Font continually increasing in the dialog box after waiting to change display" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/808419 | 11:09 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, i'm wondering whether to reassign that. the dialog comes from gnome-settings-daemon anyway, and it works fine when you turn off the dialog handler plugin in compiz | 11:10 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, should be reassigned then indeed | 11:10 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i got the issue as well without that plugin enabled :/ | 11:17 |
| rodrigo_ | pitti, is gnome-themes-standard on the CD? | 11:21 |
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| pitti | rodrigo_: yes, still, but we'll remove it (only for gtk2) | 11:21 |
| zyga | is there a way to make dash index external drives? | 11:53 |
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| nerd_bloke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292203 has been marked as invalid against ppp, which project should it be assigned to for user creation with a usergroup membership? | 12:01 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 292203 in ppp "/usr/bin/pppd has group owner dip, not dialout" [Undecided,Invalid] | 12:01 |
| rodrigo_ | had a kernel panic with kernel 3.0 | 12:01 |
| * rodrigo_ investigates | 12:01 | |
| pedro_ | hello folks | 12:08 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pedro_ | 12:08 |
| pedro_ | hola rodrigo_, remember to join #ubuntu-bugs for the bug day | 12:09 |
| rodrigo_ | pedro_, right, that's what I was going to ask, I didn't know which irc channel | 12:09 |
| * rodrigo_ joing | 12:09 | |
| pedro_ | reboot brb | 12:10 |
| smspillaz | desrt: is it possible to make a key in a schema read only in gsettings? | 12:40 |
| smspillaz | hmm, afaict there is a g_settings_is_writable .... | 12:46 |
| cyphermox | good morning! | 12:47 |
| pedro_ | morning cyphermox | 12:51 |
| cyphermox | hey pedro_ | 12:51 |
| cyphermox | pedro_: are all the emails you send through evo blank? I'm wondering if they still are if you disable the PGP signing? | 12:57 |
| pedro_ | cyphermox, yup, with or without signing the emails are blank , it doesn't make any diff | 12:58 |
| cyphermox | ah | 12:58 |
| smspillaz | desrt: hmm, actually, nevermind, it seems like libcompizconfig just expects the backend to fail to do anything at all with read only settings | 12:59 |
| smspillaz | actually, the name "read only" in the metadata is a little misleading | 12:59 |
| smspillaz | its more referring to the fact that plugins can store data in option values and these shouldn't be exposed to the user | 12:59 |
| smspillaz | though that's a really stupid way of doing it | 12:59 |
| DBO | desrt, i am now | 13:02 |
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| pitti | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20110714.1/ | 13:23 |
| pitti | after ten days, another daily build! | 13:24 |
| pitti | but oh my, what did we do? it's 15 MB bigger than alpha-2, i. e. 30 MB oversized | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it's worse than that isn't it? the alpha 2 i386 ISO was 714MB (and 709MB on amd64) | 13:26 |
| chrisccoulson | so, 21MB larger :/ | 13:26 |
| pitti | yes, 20 MB bigger now | 13:26 |
| chrisccoulson | wasn't me this time ;) | 13:26 |
| pitti | and we even dropped some old mono libs since then | 13:27 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: well.. | 13:30 |
| pitti | firefox (Δ 3.3 MB - 5.0+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2: 16.9 MB 6.0~b1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1: 20.2 MB) | 13:30 |
| pitti | partly :) | 13:30 |
| pitti | 3.3 MB growth is far from trivial :/ | 13:30 |
| chrisccoulson | ugh | 13:31 |
| pitti | all packages together grew by 4.8 MB since alpha-2 | 13:31 |
| pitti | oh, and we added sunpinyin, but something still keeps the old pinyin on the CDs | 13:32 |
| * pitti hunts down and shoots into the head | 13:32 | |
| smspillaz | pitti: don't worry, we can start hacking out compiz plugins | 13:33 |
| smspillaz | that will be fun | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-beta/rev/8e06280639df :( | 13:33 |
| smspillaz | 1kb each :) | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | -Os -> -O3 | 13:33 |
| pitti | oh | 13:33 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - ok, i just mentioned it in #developers on irc.mozilla.org, and it's meant to only be -O3 for PGO builds | 13:41 |
| chrisccoulson | the fact that it isn't is a bug | 13:41 |
| chrisccoulson | so i will just switch it back for the next uplaod | 13:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: ah, thanks | 13:41 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: speakign of next upload, as firefox-6.0 already broke the defaults packages, any chance that it could move to /usr/lib/firefox/ ? | 13:42 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'll try and look at that before i upload the next beta build (hopefully tomorrow) | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson | and i'll switch that one back to -Os as well | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - is any other growth down to me too? | 13:43 |
| chrisccoulson | (other than thunderbird) ;) | 13:43 |
| dpm | pitti, do you know if a new ubuntu-docs upload is generally included in the next langpack PPA? Or does it have to be a full language pack to include documentation? | 13:44 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: thanks! | 13:47 |
| dobey | pitti: hi | 13:47 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: no, I don't think so; still figuring out what makes ibus-pinyin appear in the default install | 13:47 |
| pitti | dpm: as long as it gets properly imported, it should be | 13:48 |
| pitti | hey dobey | 13:48 |
| dobey | pitti: i don't have upload perms for lazr.restfulclient, which is why i made a merge proposal; otherwise i would have just uploaded it to -proposed directly and waited for approval there :) | 13:48 |
| pitti | dobey: sure, I can sponsor it; toss me the URL? | 13:50 |
| dpm | pitti, I'm not sure I understand the answer. You mean delta language packs should also be able to include documentation? | 13:50 |
| dobey | pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/lucid/lazr.restfulclient/fix-803475/+merge/66362 | 13:50 |
| pitti | dpm: oh, I see what you mean; no, only full -base packs | 13:50 |
| dpm | pitti, ok, cool, thanks for confirming. We might need to kick off a full natty langpack then, since it seems that for some (all?) languages the documentation is in English | 13:51 |
| pitti | dobey: ah, that one; so you really want to do that SRU? | 13:54 |
| pitti | dobey: even now it already took more work to prepare it than it's worth it IMHO, but *shrug* | 13:54 |
| pitti | if this was a binary package, I'd reject it, but as this is pure python, there's little regression potential | 13:55 |
| pitti | dobey: uploaded | 13:56 |
| dobey | eh, it's a bug, and it affects me, so yes i think it should be fixed. python-simplejson has never been included in python core, so the | doesn't make any sense at all :) | 13:56 |
| dobey | thanks | 13:56 |
| mvo | is it just me or is python -c 'from gi.repository import GLib; print GLib.main_context_default()' not working? and if its not just me, what is the way to get the main context? | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i hate binary firefox extensions | 14:05 |
| chrisccoulson | they're a pain with every single update | 14:05 |
| dobey | mvo: don't you have to create a main loop first? | 14:05 |
| pitti | mvo: you want gobject.main_context_default() | 14:05 |
| pitti | mvo: the MainLoop is there, too; don't ask me why, though | 14:05 |
| mvo | pitti: aha, thanks! that works now: python -c 'from gi.repository import GObject; print GObject.main_context_default()' - but why is it not in GLib? and instead in gobject? | 14:07 |
| pitti | ah, you did ask me after all :) | 14:08 |
| mvo | dobey: not yet, I just want the context for now, I was confused why its not exported, but I looked at the wrong spot | 14:08 |
| pitti | mvo: I really don't know; perhaps a circular dependency, or classes should be in gobject, no clue :/ | 14:08 |
| dobey | pitti: but it's not a class :) | 14:09 |
| pitti | MainLoop is? | 14:09 |
| mvo | pitti: fortunately I have the pitti oracle :) | 14:09 |
| dobey | it's no more a class than GHashTable is or GList | 14:09 |
| dobey | in terms of what a class is in GObject anyway | 14:10 |
| pitti | so let's discard that theory | 14:10 |
| mvo | but its really a bit cumersome to search around the gir xml for stuff like this | 14:10 |
| pitti | mvo: another theory: it's not introspectable? | 14:10 |
| dobey | no idea why it would be in gobject | 14:10 |
| dobey | vs glib | 14:10 |
| dobey | pitti: nothing in glib is introspectable, because they're not gobjects :) | 14:10 |
| pitti | hm? | 14:11 |
| pitti | dobey: GI works for non-gobject, too (despite its name) | 14:11 |
| pitti | mvo: anyway, /usr/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir e. g. has g_main_loop_get_context() as non-introspectable | 14:11 |
| pitti | mvo: so "can't be made introspectable yet" is my best guess | 14:11 |
| dobey | pitti: yes, but it's not quite the same, for non-gobjects you have to define a bunch of stuff in a comment in the code, iirc | 14:12 |
| mvo | dobey: interessting, a *lot* in GLib-2.0.gir is marked as introspectable="0" | 14:12 |
| dobey | mvo: right :) | 14:12 |
| dobey | it's g*object*-introspection, not glib-introspection ;) | 14:13 |
| mvo | pitti: so its a override in gobject? that explains why I did not find it | 14:13 |
| mvo | dobey: heh :) | 14:13 |
| dobey | so there is some weirdness abound | 14:13 |
| pitti | mvo: no, not an override; it's a static binding | 14:13 |
| mvo | pitti: so the way to find it is to grep through the python-gobject source? or is there a better way? | 14:13 |
| pitti | mvo: maybe "if it's not in GLib, but should be, then it's in gobject"? | 14:14 |
| pitti | help(gobject) also has a list | 14:14 |
| pitti | I guess at some low level GI reaches a point where it needs gobject/glib itself | 14:15 |
| smspillaz | desrt: around? | 14:15 |
| smspillaz | desrt: I'm getting a rather cryptic error message from gsettings | 14:15 |
| mvo | pitti: ok, thanks. I will try help(gobject) next time :) | 14:16 |
| smspillaz | desrt: GLib-GIO-ERROR **: settings object created with schema 'org.freedesktop.compiz.animation' and path '/apps/compiz-1/plugins/animation/screen0/options', but path '/apps/compiz-1/plugins/animation/screen0/options/' is specified by schema | 14:16 |
| smspillaz | it's a relocatable key | 14:16 |
| smspillaz | and according to dconf-editor, the schema for that key is org.freedesktop.compiz.animation | 14:16 |
| pitti | mvo: but there sure shuold be a way to "fake" it, i. e. have some overrides for GLib which redirect stuff to gobject | 14:16 |
| dobey | pitti, mvo: i'm guessing the dependencies for gobject-introspection that are in glib, might all end up in the GObject gir, yeah | 14:17 |
| dobey | but is weird | 14:17 |
| mvo | I guess my mental mapping needs to be "glib.(.*)" -> "GObject.\1" as it appears most stuff is really moved to there | 14:21 |
| * pedro_ -> doc appointment bb in ~1 hour | 14:26 | |
| smspillaz | hm, lovely, it seems like you need a path | 14:37 |
| smspillaz | err | 14:37 |
| smspillaz | a trailing / in the path | 14:38 |
| mvo | pitti: two more question (no rush). glib.io_add_watch() and glib.threads_init() are the last missing ones afaict for my porting of s-c to GLib. any hints? | 14:59 |
| mvo | pitti: heh, silly me, io_add_watch is there | 15:03 |
| mvo | and threads_init too, all in GObject of course | 15:04 |
| pitti | re | 15:06 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, sorted out? | 15:06 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, glib -> GObject, that is really the magic :) | 15:07 |
| mvo | looking good so far, soon at least the gobject/glib stuff in s-c should be finished | 15:07 |
| mvo | and ready for the brave new gi world | 15:07 |
| pitti | mvo: oh, GObject works? that's a surprise, I had thought gobject | 15:07 |
| pitti | if introspection doesn't work in GLib, it shouldn't work in GObject either | 15:08 |
| mvo | pitti: interessting, at leat for threads_init I get: python -c 'from gi.repository import GLib, GObject; print GObject.threads_init ; print GLib.threads_init' | 15:10 |
| mvo | the first works, the second does not | 15:10 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, I guess there's some cleverness to pretend that GObject is a GI module, while it's not :) | 15:10 |
| pitti | mvo: i. e. it might just silently be "gobject" | 15:11 |
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| didrocks | hey :) | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | didrocks! | 15:15 |
| didrocks | hey kenvandine! | 15:16 |
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| mvo | pitti: yeah, I would not be suprised, still, looks more consistent this way | 15:57 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine | 16:18 |
| pitti | hey didrocks, how are you? | 16:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: shouldn't you be marching towards the Bastille today? | 16:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: how was LLVM? | 16:18 |
| pitti | sorry, RMLL | 16:18 |
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| didrocks | pitti: hey! I'm fine thanks, quite tired after 6 hours of train, but fine :) | 16:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: RMLL were good, lot of conferences, and long time at the booth | 16:18 |
| didrocks | pitti: so, I prefered to work on the train (I'm at home now), finishing catching up with emails and swapping today with tomorrow | 16:19 |
| pitti | ah, nice | 16:19 |
| pitti | I noticed a bunch of replies from you indeed :) | 16:19 |
| didrocks | yeah, once connected back :-) | 16:20 |
| pitti | mvo: did you see Spammap's comment in bug 807745? | 16:22 |
| pitti | mvo: nevermind, saw the discussion on #devel | 16:24 |
| bjf | after upating yesterday, light-dm won't let me log in any longer, an update today has not helped. are there logs somewhere I can look at that will give me some clue what it's doing | 16:27 |
| pitti | bjf: what happens exactly? | 16:28 |
| ogra_ | there is /var/log/lightdm | 16:28 |
| bjf | problem: "clicking on my name in light-dm causes it to go away, I don't get the 'password' prompt" | 16:28 |
| bjf | pitti, * | 16:28 |
| pitti | bjf: do you see the greeter? does it say wrong password? does it attempt to start the session? | 16:28 |
| pitti | ah, ok, different bug then | 16:28 |
| pitti | bjf: does the keyboard selection work, to avoid the greeter crash? | 16:29 |
| bjf | pitti, not sure | 16:29 |
| pitti | if you get an apport crash, reporting that would be appreciated; I'm not aware of major lightdm crashes right now | 16:30 |
| bjf | pitti, the log says "pam_close_session -> System error" "pam_setcred(PAM_DELETE_CRED) -> System error" | 16:30 |
| bjf | pitti, i'll pastebin the entire log (it's short) | 16:30 |
| pitti | bjf: most troubles people have these days are due to the /run migration | 16:31 |
| pitti | bjf: do you have the absolutely latest packages now? udev 172-0ubuntu3, mountall 2.30, initscripts 2.88dsf-13.10ubuntu4? | 16:31 |
| pitti | that fixes a bunch of them | 16:31 |
| pitti | bjf: plus, checking dmesg for apparmor violations can't hurt | 16:31 |
| pitti | (all apparmor profiles with /var/run are also broken and being fixed) | 16:32 |
| bjf | pitti, packages are the versions you gave, log is pastebin: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/644231/, last few dmesg lines: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/644233/ there is a problem with apparmor and cups | 16:38 |
| pitti | bjf: the apparmor/cups problem is fixed in cups 1.4.7-1 | 16:38 |
| pitti | no idea about the pam error :/ | 16:38 |
| pitti | I take it VT1 login works? | 16:39 |
| pitti | would be interesting to see whether gdm works better; might at least be a workaround | 16:39 |
| bjf | pitti, yes vt1 working just fine | 16:39 |
| mvo | alex3f: hi, before I leave for dinner, I landed some GI changes in trunk, you may need to reolve some conflicts in your backends-refactor branch, but should be really straightforward (only a bit cumbersome) | 16:39 |
| alex3f | mvo: seen them, will do that, thanks for the heads up | 16:40 |
| alex3f | :-) | 16:40 |
| mvo | alex3f: thanks ! | 16:40 |
| mvo | alex3f: and we should sit together tomorrow so that I can merge your stuff :) | 16:40 |
| alex3f | I'm up for it | 16:41 |
| alex3f | I have a nasty bug | 16:41 |
| alex3f | that's keeping me busy | 16:41 |
| mvo | oh, ok | 16:41 |
| alex3f | the cache doesn't refresh | 16:41 |
| alex3f | after an installation is done | 16:41 |
| alex3f | (in PK branch) | 16:41 |
| alex3f | but regardless that, backend-refactor is ready for merging | 16:41 |
| mvo | ok, we can have a look at this together tomorrow | 16:41 |
| mvo | great | 16:41 |
| alex3f | thank you | 16:41 |
| mvo | thank YOU :) | 16:42 |
| * mvo waves and vanishes for dinner | 16:42 | |
| * alex3f waves back | 16:42 | |
| bjf | pitti, after cups update and reboot I see: lightdm-example[1220]: segfault at 0 ip 00007ffe5d36617a sp 00007fff45369e58 error 4 in libc-2.13.so[7ffe5d233000+19b000] | 16:45 |
| bjf | pitti, that's dmesg output | 16:45 |
| bjf | pitti, installing gdm now | 16:46 |
| bjf | pitti, gdm works just fine, though unity very slow coming up | 16:49 |
| Sarvatt | bjf: you could update the cups package? i've been stuck on "Installing new version of config file /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd" | 16:51 |
| bjf | Sarvatt, again? i just updated to 1.4.7-1 | 16:52 |
| bjf | Sarvatt, now that i'm logged in and have unity up, i see metacity and gsettings-data segfaults in dmesg | 16:53 |
| micahg | bjf: that lightdm bug is bug 809890 | 17:00 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 809890 in lightdm "lightdm-example-gtk-greeter crashed with SIGSEGV in __strcmp_ssse3()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809890 | 17:00 |
| bjf | micahg, thanks | 17:03 |
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| pitti | good night everyone! | 17:16 |
| desrt | pitti: good evening | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | good night pitti | 17:17 |
| didrocks | ok, enough catchup on email, this will make monday less scary (as I'm swapping tomorrow). Time to take the Bastille, see you on Monday! | 17:19 |
| didrocks | and good night pitti ;) | 17:19 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, eod for me also, later all | 17:21 |
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| lamalex | Sarvatt, do you know the last working X version with nvidia? alpha 2 was working, right? | 17:43 |
| Sarvatt | lamalex: nvidia didn't break wrt X at all this cycle, just some multiarch "fun" for a bit there that was fixed shortly after alpha 2 where mesa updates were moving the alternative making it have to be deactivated and reactivated again to work every mesa update | 17:47 |
| lamalex | oh really?? hm so I DONT need to reinstall to fix my drivers? | 17:48 |
| lamalex | ha ok | 17:48 |
| lamalex | so I just need to do ... what? | 17:48 |
| Sarvatt | i have no clue how they're broken on your system, whats wrong? | 17:48 |
| lamalex | it's not loading the nvidia drivers | 17:49 |
| lamalex | Failed to load module "nvidia" (module-specific error, 0) | 17:49 |
| lamalex | then it loads nouveau instead | 17:49 |
| Sarvatt | means the kernel module didn't load, you sure its built? | 17:50 |
| lamalex | how do i find out | 17:50 |
| Sarvatt | are you using generic-pae with only generic headers installed for instance? | 17:50 |
| lamalex | i don't think so | 17:50 |
| lamalex | uname -a doesn't say anything about pae | 17:51 |
| lamalex | and linux-headers-generic are installed | 17:51 |
| lamalex | i guess ill try reinstalling nvidia-current/ | 17:52 |
| jbicha | my wife's laptop won't load the nvidia drivers anymore either | 17:59 |
| cyphermox | pedro_: | 18:23 |
| cyphermox | evo still doesn't seem to display emails with everything properly; but sends correctly for me | 18:23 |
| cyphermox | pedro_: care to try the packages in https://launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+archive/evolution-staging; they're basically evo and EDS from git HEAD | 18:24 |
| cyphermox | so if this doesn't work, then it's broken in git atm | 18:24 |
| pedro_ | cyphermox, ok will give it a try | 18:25 |
| cyphermox | pedro_: thanks. | 18:27 |
| mterry | chrisccoulson, thanks for fixing the libyelp0 breaks thing. I totally forgot to add that logic | 18:38 |
| mterry | How can I easily answer the question, "what packages in main install a file in /usr/share/xsessions?" (pitti?) | 18:46 |
| cyphermox | mterry: apt-file? | 18:46 |
| mterry | ah... good one. I had forgotten about that guy | 18:46 |
| pedro_ | cyphermox, bad news... | 18:46 |
| cyphermox | pedro_: dah. :/ | 18:46 |
| pedro_ | cyphermox, just kidding , it works fine now! thanks :-)) | 18:46 |
| cyphermox | you still sending empty emails? | 18:47 |
| cyphermox | oh yay! | 18:47 |
| pedro_ | no more empty emails wooo | 18:47 |
| cyphermox | signed emails still appear empty but at least it's a little better now | 18:47 |
| pedro_ | well at least there's a workaround for that ;-) | 18:48 |
| cyphermox | for instance, see the ARM meeting reminder, it renders as empty (but the mbox file is good) | 18:48 |
| cyphermox | there is? | 18:48 |
| pedro_ | aah no , sorry i thought for emails you send , like that you can disable the sign | 18:48 |
| cyphermox | ah ok | 18:49 |
| cyphermox | but now if you send signed emails it works? | 18:49 |
| cyphermox | (wfm anyway) | 18:49 |
| pedro_ | let me check, tried without signing | 18:49 |
| pedro_ | cyphermox, yeah that works fine as well | 18:51 |
| cyphermox | ok :) | 18:51 |
| pedro_ | cyphermox, thanks again :-) | 18:51 |
| cyphermox | "it works, ship it! ship it!!!" :) | 18:51 |
| pedro_ | lol | 18:51 |
| cyphermox | I however, am going to upload this now | 18:52 |
| dobey | bcurtiswx | 19:22 |
| dobey | doh | 19:22 |
| Daviey | Is tbird leaking file descriptors on large IMAP's? | 19:25 |
| jibel | Daviey, define 'large IMAP' ? | 19:52 |
| Daviey | jibel: well, it's been running pretty crap for the last week. I have ~10GB imap folders, and wondered if that was related. | 20:02 |
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| robert_ancell | RAOF, is there a way to get X to log any useful information? e.g. why it's not authenticating a client? | 23:13 |
| chrisccoulson | is there no retracer again? | 23:26 |
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