[12:31] <bhearsum> oh, cool
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[14:52] <bhearsum> chr1sccoulson: did you guys end up ignoring 5.0.1 completely?
[15:15] <chrisccoulson> hi bhearsum
[15:15] <chrisccoulson> i should sign out of my other computer ;)
[15:15] <bhearsum> hehe
[15:15] <chrisccoulson> yeah, we haven't shipped 5.0.1 at all
[15:15] <bhearsum> cool
[15:15] <bhearsum> did you hear any complaints or confusion from anyone?
[15:16] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, not really. one person asked about it on IRC yesterday, but that's it
[15:16] <bhearsum> oh, good!
[15:20] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, have you seen the size of our CD's today? ;)
[15:20] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: no - where are we at?
[15:21] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, the CD builds have been broken for a few days, and pitti got them going again today, and the first build had grown by an additional 21MB :/
[15:21] <m_conley> !
[15:21] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: uh oh
[15:21] <chrisccoulson> 1 of the big increases is firefox, but that's actually a bug
[15:22] <chrisccoulson> but pitti is investigating where all the extra stuff came from
[15:22] <chrisccoulson> i'm sure it'll come back down again ;)
[15:23] <chrisccoulson> and the next firefox upload will shrink it back down again
[15:23] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: phew. :)
[17:04] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, do you have a ~/.config/indicators/messages/applications-blacklist folder on your machine?
[17:05] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: yes I do
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, ah! i think i've solved the "lack of feedback from users" problem ;)
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> it throws on startup if that folder is missing
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> (the messagingmenu)
[17:07] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: oh, yikes
[17:07] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: have a patch?
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> i just debugged it with jono, because it wasn't working OOTB for him
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> yeah
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> 1 second
[17:07] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: k
[17:08] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/handle-missing-search-folder
[17:08] <chrisccoulson> (it hasn't updated yet, as i only just pushed it)
[17:08] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: alright, cool, thanks
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> ah, it's there now: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/messagingmenu-extension/handle-missing-search-folder/revision/57
[17:12] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: pushed
[17:13] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: thanks for the patch / debuggin!
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, excellent, thanks
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> i'll get that uploaded tomorrow with the new beta ;)
[17:13] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: and here I thought no news was good news.  :/
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[18:10] <chrisccoulson> anyone here running KDE who can verify this? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660666
[18:10] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 660666 in Widget: Gtk "FilePicker in modeGetFolder mode, returns a leading '//' in the result" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ]
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, linux builds are done with PGO now aren't they?
[18:56] <bhearsum> starting with Firefox 7 i believe, yeah
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> (at least, that's what i think, assuming i'm looking in the right place: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/rev/49078560e515)
[18:56]  * bhearsum double checks that
[18:57] <bhearsum> sorry, starting with Firefox 6 it's on
[18:58] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, oh, nice
[18:58] <chrisccoulson> i wonder if we should try turning it on too
[18:58] <bhearsum> that would be great!
[18:59] <micahg> wait, I thought I saw something about it being reverted in 6
[18:59] <bhearsum> that was by mistake
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> micahg, this woudl suggest otherwise: http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/file/6c0519baac53/mozilla2/linux/mozilla-beta/release/mozconfig
[18:59] <micahg> from yesterday's meeting: This build will have js PGO turned off again (it’s currently on) as we don’t intend to ship with it (accidentally had it enabled through a comedy of errors, whoops)
[18:59] <bhearsum> that's js PGO
[19:00] <micahg> ah
[19:00] <bhearsum> we turned that off on purpose, everywhere
[19:00] <bhearsum> i guess we _didn't_ accidentally turn off PGO on linux...so ignore that part of what i said :)
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, do you know how long the profiling takes to run? i notice it runs 10 times now
[19:01] <chrisccoulson> (i should probably just try it here really)
[19:02] <bhearsum> honestly, i'm not sure, but i know it hasn't made a notable difference on build times
[19:03] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, ok, that's good. our build times are already long enough (~3h)
[19:03] <chrisccoulson> but that includes all of the tests as well
[19:04]  * micahg grumbles about the tests not being that useful yet
[19:04] <bhearsum> wow!
[19:04] <bhearsum> 3 hours for a linux build?!
[19:04] <bhearsum> oh, all the tests, gotcha
[19:04] <bhearsum> we ||ize our tests :)
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, i think the actual build is ~50 minutes or so
[19:04] <chrisccoulson> i've not timed it though
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> i should add some timestamps to our build log really, so i can see where the time goes
[19:05] <micahg> bhearsum: but the build became deparallelized in 4+
[19:05] <bhearsum> micahg: what do you mean?
[19:05] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: ah, that timing sounds more sane
[19:05] <micahg> bhearsum: it forces -j1
[19:05] <bhearsum> are you sure...?
[19:05] <micahg> for me it has at least
[19:06]  * micahg hasn't had time to dig too much into it
[19:06] <bhearsum> you're setting MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS=-jN ?
[19:06] <micahg> no, that's what I need to set, I was passing it on the command line like I used to for 3.6
[19:06] <bhearsum> ah
[19:06] <bhearsum> yeah, do that, and it'll work again :)
[19:07] <micahg> ugh :(, I just want it for my local build, will that work as an env var?
[19:07] <bhearsum> i think so....
[19:07] <bhearsum> you can put it in your mozconfig for sure, though
[19:07] <micahg> k, will try in a couple weeks when I work on 6
[19:08] <bhearsum> mk_add_options MOZ_MAKE_FLAGS="-j4"
[19:08] <bhearsum> sure thing
[19:08] <micahg> bhearsum: thanks
[19:08] <bhearsum> np
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> micahg, what happened to thunderbird 3.1.11 btw?
[19:10] <chrisccoulson> we're nearly 4 weeks behind already :/
[19:10] <micahg> chr1sccoulson: going out today :(
[19:11] <micahg> was just having trouble testing (next time should be smoother)
[19:50] <chrisccoulson> ok, here goes. time to test a PGO build :)
[19:54] <bhearsum> :)
[19:55] <bhearsum> by the way, what's the system that drives the launchpad builds?
[20:03] <bhearsum> chr1sccoulson: what software drives the launchpad build system (....if it's not too big of a question)
[20:16] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, i'm not too sure. might be worth asking in #launchpad
[20:16] <bhearsum> ah, ok
[20:17] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, https://launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd
[20:17] <bhearsum> ah
[20:18] <bhearsum> ah, based on buildd
[20:18] <micahg> bhearsum: are you wondering about the underlying software that compiles the builds?
[20:18] <bhearsum> of course, that makes perfect sense
[20:18] <bhearsum> micahg: the continuous integration software, if that's what you mean
[20:18] <bhearsum> i was mostly wondering if it was Buildbot or Hudson or something else
[20:18] <micahg> bhearsum: ah, yeah, I have no idea about that
[20:20] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, we do have some teams that use hudson internally
[20:20] <chrisccoulson> i'm pretty sure our DX team use that
[20:20] <bhearsum> ahhh
[20:29] <chrisccoulson> everytime i view friend suggestions in google plus, it's just a list of everybody i work with
[20:29] <chrisccoulson> it's like canonical+ or something
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[21:34] <chrisccoulson> i seriously need new hardware
[21:34] <chrisccoulson> the OOM killer just killed the linker trying to do a PGO build
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, so, each profiling run is ~2 minutes
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> well, 1 minute 45 seconds to be more precise ;)
[22:25] <BUGabundo> EveNinG fRiendS of the daRK