[00:48] <bazhang> gnome 3 session? does that not indicate they installed the gnome3 PPA?
[00:50] <IdleOne> they installed gnome3 somehow
[00:51] <bazhang> phr3rd and godtrunks both it seems
[01:06] <bazhang> would the PPA be in sources.list.d ?
 GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session   just this one, apparently
[01:13] <Pici> !info gnome3-session
[01:29] <bazhang> if someone can make sense of what godtrunks2 is saying, please enlighten me
 bazhang, it looks blue and has a clock centered on the top   <--- gnome 3 session for natty has this Pici ?
 if i wanted to install windows would the windows installer do it for me aswell?
[01:49] <bazhang> my senses are tingling
[02:01] <bazhang> so its possible to remove unity *and* classic from 11.04 and use gnome3 session exclusively, apparently
[02:10] <bazhang> thats a neat trick, as I dont see a package that is classic
[02:20] <bazhang> KlickitYlack      = sqadfafsdgf
[02:50] <rww> bazhang: GNOME 3 PPA removes GNOME 2 and Unity.
[02:50] <bazhang> rww, ah so. thanks. but he claims never to have installed the PPA
[02:50] <rww> I'm sure you can guess my opinion of this.
[02:51] <bazhang> and he's in unity, but no classic option
[02:51] <bazhang> and klickityclack seems to be trolling
[02:52] <rww> perhaps an odd person responding to K4k's "comcastbusiness" hostmask? iono.
[02:52] <bazhang> also "is ubuntu better than windows?" and does the windows installer et c etc etc
[02:52] <rww> I'd have them "apt-cache policy", except they'd probably doctor it if they're pretending not to have GNOME 3 PPA (which is my cynical interpretation)
[02:53] <rww> oh, I didn't see KlickitYlack
[02:57] <bazhang> well he wont give a screenshot, claims to be on the desktop, but somehow cannot do so
[02:59] <bazhang> http://i55.tinypic.com/i23kub.jpg
[03:00] <rww> i saw. has a gmail address that corresponds to their IRC handle, and the time is about right. so there we go :|
[04:42] <bazhang> is billy_ aka billy2007 normally an issue?
[04:52] <bazhang> augh coldpaste, and response to !here is quoting self with coldpaste
[05:28] <bazhang> wonder what happened to erusul ; not seen him in ages
[06:38] <rww> to the surprise of nobody, the software billy2007's been complaining about not being able to use on his VM is pirated.
[06:40] <Corey> Shock oh shock.
[06:41] <rww> also, kopral decided that the best way to respond to being told not to be offtopic in #ubuntu was to ignore it, get +q'd, and then NOTICE spam me with anti-semitic crap in a foreign language.
[06:41] <rww> fun times
[06:42] <Corey> rww: Lovely!
[06:54] <rww> jussi: I'll admit, I went on BT and looked to see if they're one of our regular drugged-up users ;(
[06:55] <jussi> rww: yeah...
[07:27] <ikonia> morning bullgard4
[07:27] <bullgard4> ikonia: gm!
[07:28] <ikonia> how can we help you today ?
[07:28] <bullgard4> ikonia: Just a moment, please.
[07:28] <ikonia> sure
[07:33] <bullgard4> When finally will you stop the mobbing of not so experienced people asking for help in the #ubuntu-de channel by regulars and operators every day? Example: Today: [09:05]	<Nicodemus>	Wie suche ich die Passwörter für meine Verschlüsselten Home-Verzeichnisse herraus ?  -- [09:13]	<LetoThe2nd>	Nicodemus: ich habe dich hier in den letzten tagen oft gesehen. ich schätze dich als lesefaul,...
[07:33] <bullgard4> ...denkfaul, unmotivert und nicht willens eigene geistesleistung zu investieren an. ändere das und lies was ich sagte, oder tu's nicht.
[07:33] <ikonia> bullgard4: why are you giving us ?
[07:34] <rww> bullgard4: #ubuntu-ops deals with channels in the Ubuntu core namespace. LoCo channels are not managed here; try #ubuntu-de's channel operators, the LoCo Council, or #ubuntu-irc
[07:34] <bullgard4> What do you mean by "giving us"?
[07:34] <ikonia> giving us this inforamtion
[07:34] <rww> s/channels in the Ubuntu core namespace/Ubuntu core channels/
[07:37] <bullgard4> rww: Thank you for this information. I will try to act accordingly.
 what is mouse?
[09:57] <bazhang> a well-loved character copyright to eternity
[09:57] <ikonia> it won't be tollerated long
[09:57] <bazhang> he's been in the channel before now
[10:59] <ikonia> jrib: 6.06 was LTS = 5 years on the server paltform......should it have been removed by now ?
[10:59] <ikonia> platform
[11:00] <jrib> ikonia: I don't know what the policy for the old-releases server is
[11:00] <ikonia> if it's been removed - that's bonkers
[11:00] <ikonia> (which it appears to have)
[11:01] <jrib> ikonia: I don't see anything before hardy on old-releases
[11:01] <ikonia> dapper was 6.06 wasn't it ?
[11:02] <jrib> yes
[11:02] <jussi> yup
[11:02] <ikonia> so basically after 5 years, support doesn't end, it's existance ends
[11:02]  * jrib sees nothing wrong with that
[11:02] <ikonia> jrib: it is if you want to upgrade
[11:03] <jussi> oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[11:03] <ikonia> jussi: it's been removed from there
[11:03] <ikonia> hence why it doesn't exist any more
[11:03] <jussi> oh?
[11:03] <jrib> ikonia: you can upgrade to hardy, no?
[11:04] <ikonia> no, as it requires some stuff from 6.06 to do the ugprade
[11:04] <ikonia> or at least requires access to the repo to do the upgrade process
[11:04] <jrib> presumably, one could have upgraded to hardy in 2008
[11:04] <ikonia> I would agree, but in a work environment it's not always possible
[11:05] <ikonia> hence my surprise
[11:05] <ikonia> for a home user, I don't really care, you should be on top of it, but for business yes
[11:05] <jrib> ikonia: ah you are saying that actual access to dapper repository must exist despite an install having been up to date (on dapper) post hardy release date?
[11:05] <ikonia> yes
[11:06] <jrib> well that's kind of silly then
[11:06] <jrib> although to be fair, old-releases is a bit of a courtesy, upgrades should be planned with the 5 year deadline in mind
[11:07] <tsimpson> I don't think you *need* the (old-)releases archives to actually upgrade
[11:07] <ikonia> then that's a poor model from canonical
[11:07] <ikonia> tsimpson: it looks like you do
[11:07] <tsimpson> do-release-upgrade should just look for the next LTS
[11:07] <ikonia> it wants to accesss the old repos to do the update
[11:07] <ikonia> don't know if that was changed post 6.06 so is no longer a problem
[11:09] <jrib> http://debian.anu.edu.au/ old mirror with dapper still on it
[11:10] <ikonia> jrib: useful as a work around, sloppy as an overall process
[11:10] <ikonia> although I guess all mirrors should have an oldrelease style archive
[11:21] <jussi> Have you asked the sysadmins about this?  perhaps its an oversight?
[11:21] <elky> jpds, around?
[12:06] <jpds> elky: Hi.
[12:34] <bazhang> nice spot IdleOne
[12:34] <IdleOne> ty
[12:38] <bazhang> wslayer account should be taken with a grain of salt. he was asking "what is mouse?" and "what is ubuntu?" earlier
[12:41] <bazhang> there are allegedly tools that will make a windows iso bootable, as his is admittedly pirated, and the ubuntu tools are not made for that, it seems out of channel scope, at the very least (billy2007)
[12:47] <bazhang> is blueskaj's advice sound or not
[12:48] <Pici> bazhang: It looks like hes answering a question that wasn't asked.
[12:48] <Pici> And tsimpson's advice was already given
[12:48] <bazhang> Pici, he's telling joanthrax how to bypass eolupgrades
[12:49] <bazhang> whoops joann something else
[12:49] <tsimpson> simply doing sed s/oldrelease/newrelease/g is _not_ good advice
[12:52] <Pici> And this is where he says that he mentioned it was 'risky'.
[12:52] <Pici> like so.
[12:53] <bazhang> it broke my install once, when I knew no better
[12:53] <Pici> I thought he was better than this...
[13:02] <bazhang> rww, so the xp not working in vm was pirated, then? re: billy2007 's issue
 Results for | Quantum_Ion on Google:
[13:36] <bazhang> ^ responding to !google | user
[13:40] <bazhang> youtube-dl is fixed?
[13:40] <Pici> dunno. I use a build of cclive
[13:40] <bazhang> heh topyli 's law
[14:12] <bazhang> dev null is empty why?
[14:13] <bazhang> better to use mongodb
[14:17] <Pici> I almost used !die instead of !ide
[14:17] <bazhang> hehe
[14:17] <bazhang> probably has something for that in -ot
[14:18] <bazhang> * Python1 (~snake@41.228.178.198) has joined #ubuntu  ban dodging?
[14:18] <Pici> Did we remove it?
[14:20] <bazhang> whoops yes. my mistake
[14:28] <bazhang> still wondering how that user was able to remove classic and unity and be running gnome3 session on 11.04
[14:39] <bazhang> the webmin factoid no longer mentions ebox, that broken , too?
[14:39] <Pici> I don't think it exists anymore.
[14:41] <bazhang> still there in natty, at least. just not recommended I guess
[14:43] <popey> ebox -> zentyal
 bazhang, no my encrypted hard drive :(    <--- gone for good, then, yes?
[15:06] <bazhang> jukeitaa, hi
[15:07] <jukeitaa> bazhang: hi and sorry to disturb, just checking channels topic
[15:07] <Pici> /topic #otherchannel
[15:07] <bazhang> hehe
[15:08] <bazhang> -this is not the channel you want-
[15:27] <bazhang> so connman is only for intel cards? that seems odd
[15:54] <popey> its made by intel ☺
[15:54] <popey> but I'd be surprised if that's true
[15:54] <popey> AIUI Android uses connman
[15:54] <popey> and most phones don't have intel wifi chips in them
[16:46] <Pici> tsimpson: iirc, Stockholm_Angel was discussed here or ops-team a bit ago, I forget why though :/
[16:52] <tsimpson> ugg, yeah, I see the conversation in -team
[17:10] <Pici> Weird, ubottu gave me an error about 'no closing quotation' when I used it in a @comment
[17:10] <Pici> Is that bugworthy?
[17:12] <tsimpson> Pici: sounds more like a supybot issue to me
[17:12] <Pici> tsimpson: yeah, thats what I was thinking.
[17:16] <tsimpson> yeah, looks like the tokenizer raises that error, I really don't like supybot sometimes...
[17:18] <rww> rewrite ubottu in perl :3
[17:20] <tsimpson> I'll rewrite it in python, but this time with some sanity
[17:41] <rww> Stockholm_Angel just wandered into #ubuntu-women :|
[17:41] <Pici> I saw
[17:42] <Pici> And was asking in #freenode about registerig ##feminism