=== mnepton is now known as mneptok [00:48] gnome 3 session? does that not indicate they installed the gnome3 PPA? [00:50] they installed gnome3 somehow [00:51] phr3rd and godtrunks both it seems [01:06] would the PPA be in sources.list.d ? [01:12] GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session just this one, apparently [01:13] !info gnome3-session [01:13] gnome3-session (source: gnome-session): The GNOME Session Manager - GNOME 3 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.32.1-0ubuntu20 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 132 kB [01:29] if someone can make sense of what godtrunks2 is saying, please enlighten me [01:40] bazhang, it looks blue and has a clock centered on the top <--- gnome 3 session for natty has this Pici ? [01:49] if i wanted to install windows would the windows installer do it for me aswell? [01:49] my senses are tingling [02:01] so its possible to remove unity *and* classic from 11.04 and use gnome3 session exclusively, apparently [02:10] thats a neat trick, as I dont see a package that is classic [02:20] KlickitYlack = sqadfafsdgf [02:50] bazhang: GNOME 3 PPA removes GNOME 2 and Unity. [02:50] rww, ah so. thanks. but he claims never to have installed the PPA [02:50] I'm sure you can guess my opinion of this. [02:51] and he's in unity, but no classic option [02:51] and klickityclack seems to be trolling [02:52] perhaps an odd person responding to K4k's "comcastbusiness" hostmask? iono. [02:52] also "is ubuntu better than windows?" and does the windows installer et c etc etc [02:52] I'd have them "apt-cache policy", except they'd probably doctor it if they're pretending not to have GNOME 3 PPA (which is my cynical interpretation) [02:53] oh, I didn't see KlickitYlack [02:57] well he wont give a screenshot, claims to be on the desktop, but somehow cannot do so [02:59] http://i55.tinypic.com/i23kub.jpg [03:00] i saw. has a gmail address that corresponds to their IRC handle, and the time is about right. so there we go :| [04:42] is billy_ aka billy2007 normally an issue? [04:52] augh coldpaste, and response to !here is quoting self with coldpaste [05:28] wonder what happened to erusul ; not seen him in ages [06:30] wildbat called the ops in #ubuntu (kopral) [06:38] to the surprise of nobody, the software billy2007's been complaining about not being able to use on his VM is pirated. [06:40] Shock oh shock. [06:41] also, kopral decided that the best way to respond to being told not to be offtopic in #ubuntu was to ignore it, get +q'd, and then NOTICE spam me with anti-semitic crap in a foreign language. [06:41] fun times [06:42] rww: Lovely! [06:54] jussi: I'll admit, I went on BT and looked to see if they're one of our regular drugged-up users ;( [06:55] rww: yeah... [07:27] morning bullgard4 [07:27] ikonia: gm! [07:28] how can we help you today ? [07:28] ikonia: Just a moment, please. [07:28] sure [07:33] When finally will you stop the mobbing of not so experienced people asking for help in the #ubuntu-de channel by regulars and operators every day? Example: Today: [09:05] Wie suche ich die Passwörter für meine Verschlüsselten Home-Verzeichnisse herraus ? -- [09:13] Nicodemus: ich habe dich hier in den letzten tagen oft gesehen. ich schätze dich als lesefaul,... [07:33] ...denkfaul, unmotivert und nicht willens eigene geistesleistung zu investieren an. ändere das und lies was ich sagte, oder tu's nicht. [07:33] bullgard4: why are you giving us ? [07:34] bullgard4: #ubuntu-ops deals with channels in the Ubuntu core namespace. LoCo channels are not managed here; try #ubuntu-de's channel operators, the LoCo Council, or #ubuntu-irc [07:34] What do you mean by "giving us"? [07:34] giving us this inforamtion [07:34] s/channels in the Ubuntu core namespace/Ubuntu core channels/ [07:37] rww: Thank you for this information. I will try to act accordingly. [09:56] what is mouse? [09:57] a well-loved character copyright to eternity [09:57] it won't be tollerated long [09:57] he's been in the channel before now [10:59] jrib: 6.06 was LTS = 5 years on the server paltform......should it have been removed by now ? [10:59] platform [11:00] ikonia: I don't know what the policy for the old-releases server is [11:00] if it's been removed - that's bonkers [11:00] (which it appears to have) [11:01] ikonia: I don't see anything before hardy on old-releases [11:01] dapper was 6.06 wasn't it ? [11:02] yes [11:02] yup [11:02] so basically after 5 years, support doesn't end, it's existance ends [11:02] * jrib sees nothing wrong with that [11:02] jrib: it is if you want to upgrade [11:03] oldreleases.ubuntu.com [11:03] jussi: it's been removed from there [11:03] hence why it doesn't exist any more [11:03] oh? [11:03] ikonia: you can upgrade to hardy, no? [11:04] no, as it requires some stuff from 6.06 to do the ugprade [11:04] or at least requires access to the repo to do the upgrade process [11:04] presumably, one could have upgraded to hardy in 2008 [11:04] I would agree, but in a work environment it's not always possible [11:05] hence my surprise [11:05] for a home user, I don't really care, you should be on top of it, but for business yes [11:05] ikonia: ah you are saying that actual access to dapper repository must exist despite an install having been up to date (on dapper) post hardy release date? [11:05] yes [11:06] well that's kind of silly then [11:06] although to be fair, old-releases is a bit of a courtesy, upgrades should be planned with the 5 year deadline in mind [11:07] I don't think you *need* the (old-)releases archives to actually upgrade [11:07] then that's a poor model from canonical [11:07] tsimpson: it looks like you do [11:07] do-release-upgrade should just look for the next LTS [11:07] it wants to accesss the old repos to do the update [11:07] don't know if that was changed post 6.06 so is no longer a problem [11:09] http://debian.anu.edu.au/ old mirror with dapper still on it [11:10] jrib: useful as a work around, sloppy as an overall process [11:10] although I guess all mirrors should have an oldrelease style archive [11:21] Have you asked the sysadmins about this? perhaps its an oversight? [11:21] jpds, around? [12:06] elky: Hi. [12:34] nice spot IdleOne [12:34] ty [12:38] wslayer account should be taken with a grain of salt. he was asking "what is mouse?" and "what is ubuntu?" earlier [12:41] there are allegedly tools that will make a windows iso bootable, as his is admittedly pirated, and the ubuntu tools are not made for that, it seems out of channel scope, at the very least (billy2007) [12:47] is blueskaj's advice sound or not [12:48] bazhang: It looks like hes answering a question that wasn't asked. [12:48] And tsimpson's advice was already given [12:48] Pici, he's telling joanthrax how to bypass eolupgrades [12:49] whoops joann something else [12:49] simply doing sed s/oldrelease/newrelease/g is _not_ good advice [12:52] And this is where he says that he mentioned it was 'risky'. [12:52] like so. [12:53] it broke my install once, when I knew no better [12:53] I thought he was better than this... [13:02] rww, so the xp not working in vm was pirated, then? re: billy2007 's issue [13:36] Results for | Quantum_Ion on Google: [13:36] ^ responding to !google | user [13:40] youtube-dl is fixed? [13:40] dunno. I use a build of cclive [13:40] heh topyli 's law [14:12] dev null is empty why? [14:13] better to use mongodb [14:17] I almost used !die instead of !ide [14:17] hehe [14:17] probably has something for that in -ot [14:18] * Python1 (~snake@41.228.178.198) has joined #ubuntu ban dodging? [14:18] Did we remove it? [14:20] whoops yes. my mistake [14:28] still wondering how that user was able to remove classic and unity and be running gnome3 session on 11.04 [14:39] the webmin factoid no longer mentions ebox, that broken , too? [14:39] I don't think it exists anymore. [14:41] still there in natty, at least. just not recommended I guess [14:43] ebox -> zentyal [14:43] bazhang, no my encrypted hard drive :( <--- gone for good, then, yes? [15:06] jukeitaa, hi [15:07] bazhang: hi and sorry to disturb, just checking channels topic [15:07] /topic #otherchannel [15:07] hehe [15:08] -this is not the channel you want- [15:27] so connman is only for intel cards? that seems odd [15:54] its made by intel ☺ [15:54] but I'd be surprised if that's true [15:54] AIUI Android uses connman [15:54] and most phones don't have intel wifi chips in them [16:46] tsimpson: iirc, Stockholm_Angel was discussed here or ops-team a bit ago, I forget why though :/ [16:52] ugg, yeah, I see the conversation in -team [17:10] Weird, ubottu gave me an error about 'no closing quotation' when I used it in a @comment [17:10] Is that bugworthy? [17:12] Pici: sounds more like a supybot issue to me [17:12] tsimpson: yeah, thats what I was thinking. [17:16] yeah, looks like the tokenizer raises that error, I really don't like supybot sometimes... [17:18] rewrite ubottu in perl :3 [17:20] I'll rewrite it in python, but this time with some sanity === mquin_ is now known as mquin [17:41] Stockholm_Angel just wandered into #ubuntu-women :| [17:41] I saw [17:42] And was asking in #freenode about registerig ##feminism === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger