[00:04]  * antigravedad is away: Estoy ocupado
[00:11] <jono> kenvandine, yo
[00:12] <jono> any idea when your sexy new gwibber will land in Oneiric?
[00:13] <kenvandine> jono, i hope tonight
[00:13] <kenvandine> well upload tonight
[00:14] <kenvandine> will have to go through binNEW tomorrow
[00:14] <jono> kenvandine, awesome :-)
[00:14] <kenvandine> planned to do it this morning
[00:14] <kenvandine> but my backlog grew pretty fast today :)
[00:15] <kenvandine> speaking of which... tedg... you around?
[00:21]  * antigravedad is back (gone 00:17:48)
[02:35] <carlix> hello
[02:36] <carlix> wath is your opinion of unity?
[02:37] <carlix> hello>
[02:37] <carlix> jujuuuu
[02:49] <thumper> heh, no staying power
[06:10] <oSoMoN> good morning
[07:03] <evfool> does anyone know how customizable will Oneiric be? with gnome3, it won't have anything to change gtk themes, window borders, screensavers, etc
[07:19] <MacSlow> ola
[08:17] <JohnLea> andyrock; thanks for sending the pic over, it looks good to me ;-)
[10:07] <jjardon> mpt: thanks for the power wiki updates
[10:08] <jjardon> mpt: one question, how Can we know what hardware is certified/validated? is there a package with the database?
[10:12] <mpt> jjardon, I don't know, sorry. JohnLea has been working with Jason Warner on this, so I suggest starting there.
[10:25] <jjardon> mpt: Also, I'm not very sure this is the correct level to achieve this. I mean, suspend should work out-of-the-box. If not, Its a kernel bug
[10:27] <mpt> jjardon, as I understand it, every new PC model risks having a new variety of the bug. So while it is a kernel bug, it's not one that can be made less frequent over time, except by more vendors doing certification.
[13:22] <lamalex> DBO: njpatel_ working out some issues with lightdm so i can get back up and running
[13:22] <lamalex> njpatel_: i'll never forgive you for making us upgrade
[13:23] <njpatel_> lamalex, I love you too
[13:24] <lamalex> njpatel_: when does iteration 3 start up?
[13:24] <njpatel_> lamalex, next week
[13:26] <lamalex> sweet
[13:26] <lamalex> anyone know how to change my default display manager from lightdm to gdm?
[13:28] <njpatel_> lamalex, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:28] <lamalex> that's the command
[13:28] <lamalex> was trying to find --reconfigure
[13:29] <njpatel_> I think it used to be something like that
[13:29] <njpatel_> but I might be wrong...I tried the same thing just now
[13:29] <lamalex> yah, that's right
[13:35] <lamalex> hm where are all of the french?
[13:35] <andyrock> MacSlow, around?
[13:35] <lamalex> it's not 14 de julliet anymore guys
[13:36] <MacSlow> andyrock, yup
[13:36] <andyrock> MacSlow, do you remember the branch lo let trash icon pulse? :)
[13:36] <MacSlow> andyrock, yes... were you able to fix it/make it work?
[13:37] <andyrock> MacSlow, mmm no :) i have a question for you...
[13:38] <andyrock> MacSlow, you dragged a desktop icon (or anything else) or a launcher icon?
[13:38] <andyrock> launcher icon = unity launcher icon
[13:41] <MacSlow> andyrock, I dragged desktop-icons as well as launcher (device) icons on it.
[13:41] <MacSlow> andyrock, didn't pulse in both cases
[13:41] <andyrock> MacSlow, ok...
[13:42] <andyrock> thx
[13:42] <lamalex> njpatel_: are you fully up to date on O?
[13:43] <njpatel_> lamalex, updated this morning, yeah
[13:43] <lamalex> hm and no issues?
[13:43] <njpatel_> lamalex, nope
[13:43] <lamalex> wtf why is my pc always f'ed up
[13:43] <njpatel_> i'm on intel, thogh
[13:43] <lamalex> this doesn't seem like a driver issue
[13:44] <lamalex> yah, nvidia is loaded up fine
[13:45] <lamalex> this seems /win 4
[13:45] <lamalex> whoops
[13:46] <MacSlow> lamalex, I'm usually the one who suffers in the most bizzare ways during updates.
[13:46] <MacSlow> lamalex, didn't pull this week yet... will wait after my working day is over... just to be on the save side :)
[13:46] <lamalex> :)
[13:46] <lamalex> i just want to get into X D:
[13:47] <lamalex> this tty business is for the birds
[13:47] <lamalex> it's weird
[13:47] <lamalex> lightdm starts
[13:47] <lamalex> but when i try to log in it hangs
[13:49] <c10ud> had that too a few days ago in oneiric, reboot in recovery shell with net support, apt-get update && upgrade, fixed (intel i945)
[13:50] <lamalex> c10ud: yah, i have fully up to date system
[13:51] <lamalex> it looks like something in the upgrade is botched though
[13:51] <lamalex> man where are didrocks and seb
[13:52] <lamalex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/644783
[13:57] <lamalex> DBO: you're on maverick right?
[13:59] <DBO> lamalex, no
[14:00] <lamalex> ach really? you went to O?
[14:18] <smoser> anyone else see bug 811052 ?
[14:18] <smoser> i see it 100% of the time, and i thikn i've seen it since natty ( currently on oneiric as of "right now")
[14:22] <smoser> DBO, does ^ ring any bells to you?
[14:22] <DBO> looking at your bug report
[14:22] <DBO> hold up
[14:23] <DBO> on an intel card no less...
[14:23] <DBO> we had a bug like this before
[14:23] <DBO> but I thought it was fixed
[14:23] <DBO> I'll make sure the right people see this, aka jay
[14:24] <DBO> smoser, could you check that it only happens in compiz with unity loaded?
[14:24] <smoser> i was afraid you were going to ask that.
[14:24] <smoser> :)
[14:24] <smoser> how would i do that.
[14:25] <smoser> i did verify doesn't happen with sawfish as window manager, but realized that wasnt 3d
[14:29] <smoser> DBO, ^ how do i do that?
[14:30] <DBO> smoser, log into a classic session
[14:30] <smoser> ok.
[14:40] <smoser> DBO, just verified it does not occur
[14:40] <DBO> smoser, can you add that to the bug report?
[14:40] <smoser> did
[14:41] <smoser> gnome-shell, right?
[16:03] <kenvandine> ronoc, should the user menu actually do anything when clicked?
[16:03] <kenvandine> well, i guess is it a menu at all?
[16:03] <kenvandine> or just displays your name?
[16:03] <ronoc> kenvandine, no it should show you the other users that registered
[16:03] <ronoc> and allow you swap between them
[16:04] <kenvandine> ok... not seeing that...
[16:04] <ronoc> it should only show if there are more than one user registered
[16:04] <ronoc> => if you have only one user it should not show on the panel
[16:04] <kenvandine> yeah, i added a user to test that
[16:04] <ronoc> ah something is up then
[16:05] <kenvandine> is there a new service?
[16:05] <kenvandine> maybe i missed something in the packaging
[16:05] <ronoc> nope just the one service
[16:05] <ronoc> two menus
[16:06] <ronoc> you sure you replaced the old session service with the new one
[16:06] <kenvandine> yup
[16:07] <ronoc> i need to work with Harry for a little bit
[16:07] <ronoc> will have to wait until Monday I'm afraid
[16:07] <ronoc> before i get to look at it
[16:08] <kenvandine> no worries
[16:11] <kenvandine> it works from the indicator loader
[16:11] <kenvandine> just not in unity.. :/
[19:45] <mterry> Heyo!  I noticed that with the new compiz modal dialog support, windows with modal dialogs are no longer visible to a11y frameworks like ldtp.  Looking for help tracking down why.  TheMuso, DBO?
[19:46] <DBO> smspillaz, ^^
[20:13] <smspillaz> DBO: I'm not sure why that would be ... file a bug and I'll track it down I guess
[20:15] <smspillaz> mterry: I'm not sure why that would be
[20:15] <smspillaz> mterry: its windows that *have* modal dialogs or windows that are modal dialogs ?
[20:15] <mterry> smspillaz, both.  I have a window that is visible to ldtp.  Then it opens a modal dialog, and I can't see either in ldtp
[20:16] <smspillaz> lovely
[20:16] <smspillaz> let me have a look at it then
[20:16] <mterry> smspillaz, uh, i should mention that I'm using gtk+ trunk which has rewritten a11y support...
[20:17] <mterry> Haven't tried on non-trunk to see if it happens there too
[20:19] <smspillaz> okay
[20:19] <smspillaz> it seems like ldtp is coredumping here ...
[20:19] <mterry> smspillaz, https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/staging/+packages has trunk packages
[20:19] <mterry> smspillaz, oh?  A  LookupError?
[20:20] <mterry> That's ignorable if so
[20:20] <mterry> I filed a bug, not sure what's going on there
[20:30] <mterry> gotta go, smspillaz, but can help with this as needed on monday
[21:13] <hiatus_> has anyone made a old fashioned menu for unity yet?