[04:30] <pleia2> nhandler: sorry it's so late - step 29 is the precursor to 36, I assume? (forum output script, and then forum post)
[04:31] <pleia2> and I assume reformat.py works as expected and there are no secrets? :)
[04:33] <pleia2> nhandler: what wiki stuff needs to be stripped for the email version? just camel case correction?
[04:34] <pleia2> I think that's all my questions, the release may not be perfect but we'll get it out the door
[10:45] <nhandler> pleia2: Yeah, but make sure you get the images right for the forum post. I normally copy/paste from the last forum release (image at the top and the last paragraph)
[10:45] <nhandler> reformat.py is straight forward. Just follow the readme
[10:46] <nhandler> CammelCase comes out for the email. A paragraph linking to the wiki page gets added. I also can't remember if we made any changes to the last paragraph (check last week's issue)
[10:46] <nhandler> For the fridge, don't follow any of the wiki guides for publishing, just copy last week's post and edit the template to match this week's issue
[10:47] <nhandler> If you send me an sms, I can help with the forum if needed (you should have access for everything else)
[15:07] <NRWlion> hi jono!
[15:51] <NRWlion> hi shadeslayer and JasonO
[15:52] <shadeslayer> hi NRWlion
[16:10] <JasonO> Hi NRWlion
[16:11] <pleia2> nhandler: thanks! I should be good to go then (I confirmed I have forum access a few weeks back, so I should be good with that too)
[16:12] <NRWlion> pleia2: hi
[16:12] <NRWlion> ;)(
[16:12] <pleia2> hi there NRWlion
[16:13] <NRWlion> pleia2: how is your day going?
[16:16] <pleia2> NRWlion: hard to say, it just started :)
[16:25] <NRWlion> pleia2: then have a nice one ;) mine is already over (and i am happy with that)
[16:25] <NRWlion> :D
[16:25] <pleia2> NRWlion: not a great day for you?
[16:38] <NRWlion> well how would you feel getting a letter from the human resources manager at your company telling you are no longer needed?
[16:40] <pleia2> NRWlion: ouch, sorry to hear that :(
[16:42] <NRWlion> and the best is they are telling me i am doing a great job there
[16:42] <NRWlion> but new owners == new money == new clerks
[16:44] <NRWlion> hey pleia2 i have got an idea for UWN if you have time i'd like to discuss that with you and nhandler if available
[16:44] <pleia2> nhandler is out of town through tuesday
[16:44] <pleia2> but you're welcome to share ideas any time
[16:45] <NRWlion> pleia2: great ;) i just need to ask google for some translations ;)
[16:45] <pleia2> I'm at work right now, so forgive me if my replies aren't always instant :)
[16:46] <NRWlion> when will you be off-duty?
[16:46] <NRWlion> cause i dont want to keep u from working
[16:46] <NRWlion> :D
[16:46] <pleia2> in 7 hours (just started!)
[16:47] <NRWlion> ok, then i might be drunk and not able to type properly :D
[16:47] <NRWlion> so here is the short version
[16:48] <NRWlion> i am thinking of a trial section called "Letters to the Editors"
[16:49] <pleia2> feedback from readers?
[16:49] <NRWlion> meaning: every news team has a special sections where readers can discuss their opinion on special topics that were in the previous issue of the paper / newsletter
[16:51] <NRWlion> i am thinking of something like: we pick one or two topics of every issue and encourage the readers to post / mail that to us. And we simply collect the statements and put them together
[16:52] <pleia2> we don't really have a place to post them, but we could ask for feedback
[16:52] <NRWlion> publish them and by this we might be able to get some more interest
[16:52] <pleia2> we'd have to coordinate with whomever wrote about the topic (blog, news site, etc) so the feedback gets back to them
[16:53] <NRWlion> ehm. to get myself clear. i am looking for a kind of discussion sections
[16:53] <NRWlion> for topics of our issue that was may have effected the readers and
[16:54] <pleia2> do you have an example of a such a topic?
[16:55] <NRWlion> ehm. f.ex. we there is a topic in blogs about the failures of whatever - mint vs. debian.
[16:56] <NRWlion> the readers get the summary of the posts from us and are able - at least they should be ;) - to make up their own mind and post it
[16:56] <pleia2> hm, I guess I just suggested coordination because I think such feedback is better left on the blog itself rather than moving it to our own space
[16:57] <NRWlion> wait ^^ not finished yet! we collect those posts and bring them on one of our next issues to get a discussion going, u know?
[16:57] <NRWlion> that way that readers are able to have a possibility to write their thaughts to given topics
[16:58] <pleia2> yeah, but that splits the conversation, now there's a conversation in our newsletter and on the blog, and the blog author doesn't see the comments/discussion unless they read our newsletter :\
[17:00] <NRWlion> and this is the second intention i want to get to
[17:00] <NRWlion> i want to manage contacts to the bloggers and authors to maybe get them contributing ;)
[17:09] <NRWlion> 1) we get the readers contributing and 2) we get contact to the bloggers and authors we are quoting from ;)
[17:09] <NRWlion> wouldnt that be good?
[17:10] <pleia2> I think we'll have to see what others think, my vision for the newsletter is showing people articles and getting discussions and news going on their sites, this feels like we're taking discussion away from them
[17:11] <NRWlion> as i said: just an idea
[17:13] <pleia2> yes, keep having them! :)
[17:13] <pleia2> and my word isn't the law, it'd be nice to see what others think
[17:19] <NRWlion> pleia2: n2 hear
[17:20] <NRWlion> but i have the light feeling to slow you more down then help you with my input
[17:20] <NRWlion> :(
[17:21] <pleia2> NRWlion: well, a suggestion like the one above would require more volunteers than we have now, but that's not so bad as long as we can find them :)
[17:22] <NRWlion> pleia2: i would not suggest sth like this if i would not be able to help
[22:26] <cjohnston> pleia2: who did the theme for fridge
[22:27] <pleia2> nick ali maybe? akgraner would know
[22:28] <cjohnston> I'm just wondering cause I don't believe it follows the guidelines, plus since it is in the ubuntu.com namespace (kinda, still) I believe it needs the masthead
[22:28] <cjohnston> Since its WP tho, it should be able to use the WP theme that the community has created
[23:11] <pleia2> yeah, I don't know anything about the theming stuff, I just write articles :)