| Alpha-01 | upgrade seems to have solved the problem. I am now able to connect to wifi. | 00:48 |
|---|---|---|
| greg-g | awesome! | 00:57 |
| Alpha-01 | so how do i tweak the partitions? it keeps telling me how my hard drive is pretty much full. | 01:01 |
| Alpha-01 | but i have 4gb of space | 01:01 |
| Alpha-01 | and unless ubuntu 11.04 is bigger than i thought, that shouldn't be the case. | 01:01 |
| greg-g | well, the full install uses about 2 gigs, iirc, so it might be warning you that you have less than 2 gigs left | 01:04 |
| Alpha-01 | it is telling me i have mb left, so i am guessing it might be 2 2gb or something like that. | 01:06 |
| rick_h_ | well snapl had that issue | 01:06 |
| rick_h_ | because by default it did 1gb of swap | 01:06 |
| rick_h_ | so you might be close to full | 01:06 |
| Alpha-01 | so if i have more updates will it know to store them elsewhere, or will it just stop updating? | 01:07 |
| rick_h_ | well honestly that setup isn't very sustainable | 01:08 |
| Alpha-01 | setup? sustainable? | 01:09 |
| rick_h_ | you'll have to catch snapl for advise | 01:10 |
| rick_h_ | but check out the report of df -h | 01:10 |
| Alpha-01 | i.e. netbook shouldn't run ubuntuu? | 01:10 |
| rick_h_ | and see how big the partitions are | 01:10 |
| rick_h_ | 4gb of disk a not a lot of space these days unfortunately | 01:10 |
| rick_h_ | I know snapl was always pressing against that | 01:10 |
| Alpha-01 | *ubuntu | 01:10 |
| rick_h_ | there are some large packages you can uninstall, there are some tricks you can try | 01:11 |
| rick_h_ | if you recall him last night talking about some of the other ubuntu family were much larger than he thought they'd be | 01:11 |
| Alpha-01 | well, i will keep that in mind. right now as long as i can get skype going this would be a major success. | 01:11 |
| snap-l | evening, all | 01:42 |
| snap-l | Sorry if I was a bit moody earlier. I'm not in my happy place. | 01:42 |
| rick_h_ | everything ok? | 01:43 |
| jjesse | hope everything is fine | 01:43 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm fine, just trying to figure out my place in the universe | 01:43 |
| snap-l | That's all. ;) | 01:43 |
| jjesse | hope you find it soon | 01:52 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no worries | 01:53 |
| greg-g | g'morn | 10:47 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 11:01 |
| Wolfger | party | 11:24 |
| snap-l | Good morning | 11:51 |
| brousch | so far | 11:52 |
| snap-l | btw: If you want to hear the results of what I was working on yesterday to make JoDee happy with being awakened to noise: http://openmetalcast.com/about/promote/ | 11:53 |
| brousch | i must've missed that conversation | 12:01 |
| snap-l | And now JoDee waits for Comcast | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh, again? | 12:01 |
| snap-l | brousch: Yeah, first thing in the morning was me making that | 12:01 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: re: Comcast? No, this is the first wait | 12:01 |
| snap-l | We | 12:01 |
| snap-l | we're making sure they don't try to install Comcast here. | 12:01 |
| snap-l | billing address != shipping address. ;) | 12:02 |
| snap-l | And this is the important payload. If dad-in-law doesn't get Comcast, there might be hell to pay | 12:02 |
| snap-l | he was paying $$$ for satellite TV. | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6706161/datetime-in-defining-database-using-sqlalchemy/6706726#6706726 woo downvoting in the morning | 12:08 |
| greg-g | snap-l: lol re: promo | 12:08 |
| greg-g | snap-l: did you make the clanking noises yourself? or was that a sample? | 12:08 |
| greg-g | oh, looks like sample | 12:08 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: ah ok. I thought it was your place. Weren't you having comcast issues before and such? | 12:09 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Tose we all promos. | 12:12 |
| snap-l | Er, good morning | 12:12 |
| snap-l | Those were all samples in the background | 12:13 |
| snap-l | just a little tweaking here and there. | 12:13 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I have WOW. I always have issues with Comcast. | 12:13 |
| snap-l | High prices, dick moves, etc. | 12:13 |
| rick_h_ | gotcha | 12:13 |
| snap-l | But apparently it's the only option in this building outside of rabbit ears. | 12:14 |
| snap-l | I have hypno-bunny outside my window | 12:14 |
| greg-g | haha, "tose we all promos" is the QOTD | 12:24 |
| === bmcmahon is now known as nullspace | ||
| greg-g | long article, but really interesting read about Stuxnet: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/how-digital-detectives-deciphered-stuxnet/all/1 | 13:35 |
| Wolfger | oh gods.... http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/93071/is-it-just-me-or-is-all-the-new-fancy-google-functionaility-annoying-everyone-els | 13:35 |
| Wolfger | greg-g: fascinating. I'll have to give that a full read later. | 13:40 |
| greg-g | Wolfger: yeah, and it might hit home for you, given your day job | 13:40 |
| Wolfger | Yeah... Step 7 is right up my alley | 13:41 |
| greg-g | I hadn't heard of it until that article | 13:41 |
| greg-g | now I'm scared | 13:41 |
| greg-g | :) | 13:41 |
| Wolfger | Yeah, never heard of this at all. Switching to the 8-page view to break it into readable chunks | 13:42 |
| snap-l | Thank you Wired, for breaking Instapaper. | 13:44 |
| greg-g | heh | 13:45 |
| snap-l | Seriously, Wired may have the best content in the world, but they're too busy having a fucking typography circle-jerk to let anyone read it. | 13:45 |
| greg-g | hey! it is what gives their work such added value! (or something) | 13:46 |
| greg-g | I was confused by all of the green arrows in that article, I was like, "where do I go next? do I really skip this paragraph? Why can't I just read the way I normally do?" | 13:47 |
| jjesse | i really liked that article :) | 13:48 |
| jjesse | the stuxnet one | 13:48 |
| snap-l | Every time I think of Wired, I think of Van Burnham | 13:49 |
| snap-l | http://www.amazon.com/Van-Burnham/e/B001IQXFC0 | 13:49 |
| snap-l | Back when I went to Classic Gaming Expo (2000), she was a guest speaker or something. | 13:50 |
| snap-l | Or some show. Don't remember which, and doesn't matter | 13:50 |
| snap-l | she entered the room with a fucking entourage | 13:50 |
| snap-l | bunch of folks that looked like they'd rather be playing Shadowrun or Vampire | 13:51 |
| greg-g | I think of Stephenson's article about undersea cables | 13:51 |
| snap-l | All I could think of was "what a twat" | 13:51 |
| snap-l | Ah, I remember, she was promoting her forthcoming book | 13:55 |
| snap-l | which apparently launched in 2003. | 13:55 |
| snap-l | Anywho, point being, Wired makes me stabby because they value presentation over content. | 13:57 |
| snap-l | http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/93082/what-do-you-think-are-the-best-ways-to-save-time-when-writing-code <- stabby | 14:00 |
| snap-l | http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/93082/what-do-you-think-are-the-best-ways-to-save-time-when-writing-code/93120#93120 | 14:04 |
| nullspace | snap-l: oh oh I'm going to sit here and hit refresh every 5 minutes on that page... | 14:10 |
| nullspace | on second though I'll go back to writting java | 14:10 |
| jrwren | java? rofl | 14:10 |
| nullspace | shush MS fan boy | 14:11 |
| snap-l | Hey, did you hear Microsoft is abandoning Windows? | 14:12 |
| nullspace | I guess they just don't like natural light | 14:12 |
| jrwren | why stabby? | 14:12 |
| nullspace | MS research shows that more code is wrriten when a programmer's work environment is similar to a cave | 14:13 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Those kinds of questions are like pre-optimization questions | 14:13 |
| snap-l | ie: will my code compile faster if I use tabs instead of spaces. | 14:13 |
| nullspace | gah | 14:14 |
| jrwren | oh... i didn't read it that way at all. | 14:14 |
| jrwren | "save time when writing code" to me sounds lke they want to be efficient. | 14:14 |
| jrwren | I'd expect answers like "use Ruby instead of C" | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Yes, on the durface | 14:14 |
| snap-l | What the fuck, I can't type at all today. | 14:15 |
| jrwren | are you a programmer? | 14:15 |
| nullspace | at least that sentance came out right | 14:15 |
| smoser | jcastro, have you seen http://pad.lv/811052 (unity 2 screens black window) | 14:15 |
| jrwren | i'm just glad it was closed as not constructive | 14:15 |
| snap-l | jrwren: I am a programmer. And open-ended questions like "how do I code faster" are not coding questions, they're procrastination | 14:15 |
| jcastro | smoser: you've shown this to me before IRL | 14:16 |
| jcastro | this happened to you at mug right? | 14:16 |
| nullspace | snap-l: could have told them to type faster | 14:16 |
| smoser | happens for me with 2 screens 100% of the time | 14:16 |
| smoser | does it not happen for you ? | 14:16 |
| jrwren | rofl. i disagree, but I think I see your POV | 14:16 |
| jcastro | snap-l: programmer.se is where all the stupid questions people don't want on stackoverflow go | 14:16 |
| jcastro | "how do I do agile?!?!?!" | 14:16 |
| jrwren | i'll bet if a python n00b paired with rick_h_ and his vim setup for a couple days they would pick up TONS of things to "code faster" | 14:17 |
| jcastro | smoser: jiggle either njpatel or DBO on #ayatana | 14:17 |
| snap-l | jcastro: indeed | 14:17 |
| jcastro | and see if they've seen it | 14:17 |
| jcastro | hah | 14:17 |
| jcastro | or he could abandon you | 14:17 |
| brousch | smoser: i have that exact same problem | 14:18 |
| snap-l | jrwren: Yeah, I'm being a little harsh, and there is always room for improvement, but this came across to me as navalgazing | 14:18 |
| snap-l | jcastro: You're still going to hang out in here when you're off on your glorious beaches, right? | 14:18 |
| snap-l | I need my direct line to Canonical in here. ;) | 14:19 |
| smoser | brousch, hit "affects me" then. | 14:19 |
| smoser | will you? | 14:19 |
| brousch | i did | 14:19 |
| jrwren | snap-l: honestly, I think he was indirectly spamming that link through yahoo through reddit to his site to drive traffic | 14:19 |
| smoser | brousch, i'm guessing you're not running oneiric, right ? | 14:20 |
| brousch | hm, but i'm on 11.04 and using real hardware | 14:20 |
| snap-l | jrwren: It got closed anyway. | 14:20 |
| smoser | i'm on real hardware also | 14:20 |
| smoser | could you mention that you're seeing it with $(dpkg-query --show unity) | 14:20 |
| brousch | np, let me know if you need anything else | 14:23 |
| snap-l | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/749871/comments/16 | 14:36 |
| snap-l | jrwren: RT @AaronErickson: Showing C# 3 to people who have only known Java is like going back 200 years and showing people your iPad. (heh) | 14:40 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: unsubbing from #TNT and keeping #BOL? what does that mean? | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | podcast stuff | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | both do daily news | 14:42 |
| rick_h_ | dropped one and kept the other, now the one I kept is annoying as #@$#@ | 14:42 |
| nullspace | snap-l: eye rolling ensues | 14:42 |
| jrwren | snap-l: its true though. C# is sooooo much more than "clone of java" like the haters suggest | 14:42 |
| smoser | brousch, well, dbo responded, maybe this will get fixed. | 14:42 |
| smoser | glad i finally decided to do something about it. | 14:42 |
| nullspace | so if java sucks why is it on android and why is apache making awesome programs with it | 14:43 |
| DBO | DBO is in here you know | 14:43 |
| smoser | yeah, but i like talking behind his back | 14:43 |
| smoser | oh, shoot, he heard me | 14:43 |
| brousch | smoser: You are abetter bugman than I | 14:43 |
| smoser | well, i was in a bug submitting mood after i upgraded, rebooted, and couldn't log in at all | 14:44 |
| smoser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/809890 | 14:44 |
| brousch | I have a couple of other problems I should report | 14:45 |
| brousch | sleep doesn't work, sometimes i can't get out of a screensaver | 14:45 |
| nullspace | smoser: just don't use unity, it's that simple | 14:45 |
| jrwren | did I say java sucks? no. I just said C# is better :) | 14:45 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: I've come to the conclusion that I can't stand Sara Lane or Molly Wood | 14:45 |
| snap-l | Though Molly Wood is infinitely more tolerable than Sara Lane. | 14:46 |
| nullspace | causes my machien to freeze becasue my gpu and unity hate each other | 14:46 |
| snap-l | ie: if she's a guest on a show, she's fine | 14:46 |
| snap-l | when she's hosting, I want to stop listening. | 14:46 |
| nullspace | snap-l: what show is this? | 14:46 |
| snap-l | Buzz out Loud? | 14:47 |
| nullspace | don't think I can listen to that anyway | 14:47 |
| smoser | snap-l is *really* trying to avoid work | 14:48 |
| smoser | not only *watching* cnet garbage, but talking about his favorite hosts | 14:48 |
| snap-l | smoser: hardly | 14:49 |
| snap-l | This is a long-held believ. | 14:49 |
| snap-l | belief, even | 14:49 |
| jrwren | why even bother listening to that stuff? its for techie grandpas | 14:49 |
| * snap-l gets ready to kneecap jrwren with his cane. | 14:50 | |
| snap-l | I don't listen to either regularly, mind you. | 14:51 |
| * smoser snickers, thinking of snap-l saying "Get off my lawn, or I'll throw my Zune at you. ROTTEN KIDS!" | 14:51 | |
| snap-l | smoser: Diamond Rio, good sir | 14:51 |
| snap-l | Never bought a Zune | 14:51 |
| nullspace | snap-l: do you even have a lawn? | 14:51 |
| smoser | granpda's don't buy diamond rios | 14:51 |
| snap-l | nullspace: Yes, and I have your lawn to do donuts on | 14:51 |
| nullspace | snap-l: my front lawn is in fact that big | 14:52 |
| jrwren | i get my tech news from... ??? :) | 14:52 |
| snap-l | Actually, i should correct that. I have this area in front of my house here grass proceeds to work through "the circle of life" | 14:52 |
| nullspace | it's called the carbon cycle | 14:53 |
| nullspace | I was part of the carbon cycle before it was cool | 14:53 |
| snap-l | I'm so cool, I leave carbon crop circles. | 14:56 |
| nullspace | who is going to make it to maker faire this year? | 14:59 |
| nullspace | I sould say Detroit Maker Faire | 15:00 |
| brousch | quit having it the same weekend as pyohio :P | 15:00 |
| nullspace | who wants to go to ohio anyway | 15:01 |
| nullspace | deleware at least has an ocean, ohio has, well drive thru liqour stores | 15:01 |
| brousch | ohio has pythons! | 15:10 |
| nullspace | mofo snakes in a mofo convention | 15:21 |
| rick_h_ | boom | 15:31 |
| krondor | nullspace: I can't they did it same weekend as last year, and just like last year I have the same meeting to attend :| | 15:32 |
| gamerchick02 | yo dawg,i heard you like python so i put some pythons in your python... well, maybe not. | 15:32 |
| brousch | ouch | 15:34 |
| krondor | Tulalip has got to be worst codename for a project I've heard | 15:35 |
| gamerchick02 | tulalip? | 15:35 |
| gamerchick02 | wha? | 15:35 |
| rick_h_ | krondor: I'm glad I'm not the only one | 15:35 |
| rick_h_ | and usually MS does a bit better with those codenames | 15:35 |
| rick_h_ | usually the codenames should be the product names | 15:36 |
| krondor | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_codenames | 15:36 |
| snap-l | For those of us who aren't paying attention, what is Tulalip? | 15:44 |
| brousch | MS codename for their social network that had a nip slip last night | 15:45 |
| Wolfger | jrwren: technically you did not say that Java sucks (though you should have), nor did you say C# is better. You simply said C# was more... (more suckage?) | 15:47 |
| jrwren | if suckage is complex, then yes. C# is more complex. | 15:47 |
| jrwren | if suckage is powerful, then yes, C# is more powerful | 15:48 |
| snap-l | brousch: You're kidding me | 16:02 |
| snap-l | Apparently Microsoft is just going throw their dick into any hole and hope someone does something with it, aren't they? | 16:02 |
| snap-l | (apologies, that reference was a little vile) | 16:04 |
| snap-l | - D&D 1st Ed Monster Manual (Limit 3) 135 Points | 16:48 |
| snap-l | http://gobretail.com/gobcurrentrewards.php | 16:48 |
| snap-l | Sorry, but I find that funny | 16:48 |
| snap-l | I think that means that they only have three available for rewards, but still... | 16:48 |
| rick_h_ | https://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2454#c43 | 16:56 |
| rick_h_ | interesting | 16:56 |
| rick_h_ | because they have: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/CodeReviews | 16:57 |
| brousch | snap-l: nice OMC intro | 17:40 |
| brousch | and of course i get 1/2 way through the first song before somone needs their hand held | 17:50 |
| Wolfger | how romantic.... ;-) | 17:58 |
| snap-l | brousch: Heh | 18:15 |
| snap-l | the music, it's scary. ;) | 18:15 |
| snap-l | brousch: Thanks, though. Glad you enjoyed it. :) | 18:15 |
| brousch | i could barely tell it was you | 18:19 |
| snap-l | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6698554/simple-cgi-python-webserver-php-not-working <- Update from Yesterday. | 19:06 |
| brousch | so it's solved? i can run my php in python now? | 19:09 |
| nullspace | gah, I know Joy division really beok new ground but the lead singer just sounds like he is no even trying | 19:10 |
| nullspace | instead I'll just listen to the smiths | 19:11 |
| * rick_h_ smacks forehead | 19:17 | |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: ty, made my afternoon: https://twitter.com/#!/wafuqua/status/91949206234861568 | 19:18 |
| rick_h_ | I can completely see myself in this situtation | 19:18 |
| rick_h_ | situation that is | 19:18 |
| Blazeix | haha, yeah, it was amazing | 19:19 |
| rick_h_ | "render damn you!!!!" | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | "I am, I am..." | 19:20 |
| Blazeix | we tried zooming out 6 or 7 times, but you need to zoom out ~25 times | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | I was chasing an html thing like that where the labels weren't showing on some JS generated images | 19:20 |
| rick_h_ | just happened the default text was white on a white background | 19:20 |
| nullspace | rick_h_: walked away yesterday and never noticed if you replied to the $.proxy comment | 19:23 |
| nullspace | keeping context is good | 19:29 |
| rick_h_ | $.proxy? | 19:30 |
| nullspace | http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.proxy/ | 19:30 |
| rick_h_ | ok, what's the deal? | 19:30 |
| nullspace | keeps your objects in context | 19:31 |
| nullspace | I guess I'm just finding it really useful | 19:31 |
| rick_h_ | right, sorry feel like I missed this discussion | 19:31 |
| nullspace | actually we are having it right now | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | ah, I've not had to use it really. | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | I tend to try to use events, callbacks, and pass what I need | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | I guess I'd do something more like using the extra params in an event trigger instead | 19:32 |
| rick_h_ | and try to encapsulate that | 19:32 |
| nullspace | I do to but sometimes this is just easier | 19:33 |
| rick_h_ | cool | 19:33 |
| nullspace | I made a jQuery pun | 19:33 |
| nullspace | err an object oriented pun | 19:34 |
| snap-l | Jeez, sf.net is hiring like mad | 21:19 |
| snap-l | Unfortunately I can't get to their site. ;) | 21:19 |
| snap-l | I have had more people follow me on Google Plus that I don't know than on Twitter. ;) | 21:49 |
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