[00:48] upgrade seems to have solved the problem. I am now able to connect to wifi. [00:57] awesome! [01:01] so how do i tweak the partitions? it keeps telling me how my hard drive is pretty much full. [01:01] but i have 4gb of space [01:01] and unless ubuntu 11.04 is bigger than i thought, that shouldn't be the case. [01:04] well, the full install uses about 2 gigs, iirc, so it might be warning you that you have less than 2 gigs left [01:06] it is telling me i have mb left, so i am guessing it might be 2 2gb or something like that. [01:06] well snapl had that issue [01:06] because by default it did 1gb of swap [01:06] so you might be close to full [01:07] so if i have more updates will it know to store them elsewhere, or will it just stop updating? [01:08] well honestly that setup isn't very sustainable [01:09] setup? sustainable? [01:10] you'll have to catch snapl for advise [01:10] but check out the report of df -h [01:10] i.e. netbook shouldn't run ubuntuu? [01:10] and see how big the partitions are [01:10] 4gb of disk a not a lot of space these days unfortunately [01:10] I know snapl was always pressing against that [01:10] *ubuntu [01:11] there are some large packages you can uninstall, there are some tricks you can try [01:11] if you recall him last night talking about some of the other ubuntu family were much larger than he thought they'd be [01:11] well, i will keep that in mind. right now as long as i can get skype going this would be a major success. [01:42] evening, all [01:42] Sorry if I was a bit moody earlier. I'm not in my happy place. [01:43] everything ok? [01:43] hope everything is fine [01:43] Yeah, I'm fine, just trying to figure out my place in the universe [01:43] That's all. ;) [01:52] hope you find it soon [01:53] Yeah, no worries [10:47] g'morn [11:01] morning [11:24] party [11:51] Good morning [11:52] so far [11:53] btw: If you want to hear the results of what I was working on yesterday to make JoDee happy with being awakened to noise: http://openmetalcast.com/about/promote/ [12:01] i must've missed that conversation [12:01] And now JoDee waits for Comcast [12:01] ruh roh, again? [12:01] brousch: Yeah, first thing in the morning was me making that [12:01] rick_h_: re: Comcast? No, this is the first wait [12:01] We [12:01] we're making sure they don't try to install Comcast here. [12:02] billing address != shipping address. ;) [12:02] And this is the important payload. If dad-in-law doesn't get Comcast, there might be hell to pay [12:02] he was paying $$$ for satellite TV. [12:08] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6706161/datetime-in-defining-database-using-sqlalchemy/6706726#6706726 woo downvoting in the morning [12:08] snap-l: lol re: promo [12:08] snap-l: did you make the clanking noises yourself? or was that a sample? [12:08] oh, looks like sample [12:09] snap-l: ah ok. I thought it was your place. Weren't you having comcast issues before and such? [12:12] greg-g: Tose we all promos. [12:12] Er, good morning [12:13] Those were all samples in the background [12:13] just a little tweaking here and there. [12:13] rick_h_: I have WOW. I always have issues with Comcast. [12:13] High prices, dick moves, etc. [12:13] gotcha [12:14] But apparently it's the only option in this building outside of rabbit ears. [12:14] I have hypno-bunny outside my window [12:24] haha, "tose we all promos" is the QOTD === bmcmahon is now known as nullspace [13:35] long article, but really interesting read about Stuxnet: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/07/how-digital-detectives-deciphered-stuxnet/all/1 [13:35] oh gods.... http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/93071/is-it-just-me-or-is-all-the-new-fancy-google-functionaility-annoying-everyone-els [13:40] greg-g: fascinating. I'll have to give that a full read later. [13:40] Wolfger: yeah, and it might hit home for you, given your day job [13:41] Yeah... Step 7 is right up my alley [13:41] I hadn't heard of it until that article [13:41] now I'm scared [13:41] :) [13:42] Yeah, never heard of this at all. Switching to the 8-page view to break it into readable chunks [13:44] Thank you Wired, for breaking Instapaper. [13:45] heh [13:45] Seriously, Wired may have the best content in the world, but they're too busy having a fucking typography circle-jerk to let anyone read it. [13:46] hey! it is what gives their work such added value! (or something) [13:47] I was confused by all of the green arrows in that article, I was like, "where do I go next? do I really skip this paragraph? Why can't I just read the way I normally do?" [13:48] i really liked that article :) [13:48] the stuxnet one [13:49] Every time I think of Wired, I think of Van Burnham [13:49] http://www.amazon.com/Van-Burnham/e/B001IQXFC0 [13:50] Back when I went to Classic Gaming Expo (2000), she was a guest speaker or something. [13:50] Or some show. Don't remember which, and doesn't matter [13:50] she entered the room with a fucking entourage [13:51] bunch of folks that looked like they'd rather be playing Shadowrun or Vampire [13:51] I think of Stephenson's article about undersea cables [13:51] All I could think of was "what a twat" [13:55] Ah, I remember, she was promoting her forthcoming book [13:55] which apparently launched in 2003. [13:57] Anywho, point being, Wired makes me stabby because they value presentation over content. [14:00] http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/93082/what-do-you-think-are-the-best-ways-to-save-time-when-writing-code <- stabby [14:04] http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/93082/what-do-you-think-are-the-best-ways-to-save-time-when-writing-code/93120#93120 [14:10] snap-l: oh oh I'm going to sit here and hit refresh every 5 minutes on that page... [14:10] on second though I'll go back to writting java [14:10] java? rofl [14:11] shush MS fan boy [14:12] Hey, did you hear Microsoft is abandoning Windows? [14:12] I guess they just don't like natural light [14:12] why stabby? [14:13] MS research shows that more code is wrriten when a programmer's work environment is similar to a cave [14:13] jrwren: Those kinds of questions are like pre-optimization questions [14:13] ie: will my code compile faster if I use tabs instead of spaces. [14:14] gah [14:14] oh... i didn't read it that way at all. [14:14] "save time when writing code" to me sounds lke they want to be efficient. [14:14] I'd expect answers like "use Ruby instead of C" [14:14] Yes, on the durface [14:15] What the fuck, I can't type at all today. [14:15] are you a programmer? [14:15] at least that sentance came out right [14:15] jcastro, have you seen http://pad.lv/811052 (unity 2 screens black window) [14:15] i'm just glad it was closed as not constructive [14:15] jrwren: I am a programmer. And open-ended questions like "how do I code faster" are not coding questions, they're procrastination [14:16] smoser: you've shown this to me before IRL [14:16] this happened to you at mug right? [14:16] snap-l: could have told them to type faster [14:16] happens for me with 2 screens 100% of the time [14:16] does it not happen for you ? [14:16] rofl. i disagree, but I think I see your POV [14:16] snap-l: programmer.se is where all the stupid questions people don't want on stackoverflow go [14:16] "how do I do agile?!?!?!" [14:17] i'll bet if a python n00b paired with rick_h_ and his vim setup for a couple days they would pick up TONS of things to "code faster" [14:17] smoser: jiggle either njpatel or DBO on #ayatana [14:17] jcastro: indeed [14:17] and see if they've seen it [14:17] hah [14:17] or he could abandon you [14:18] smoser: i have that exact same problem [14:18] jrwren: Yeah, I'm being a little harsh, and there is always room for improvement, but this came across to me as navalgazing [14:18] jcastro: You're still going to hang out in here when you're off on your glorious beaches, right? [14:19] I need my direct line to Canonical in here. ;) [14:19] brousch, hit "affects me" then. [14:19] will you? [14:19] i did [14:19] snap-l: honestly, I think he was indirectly spamming that link through yahoo through reddit to his site to drive traffic [14:20] brousch, i'm guessing you're not running oneiric, right ? [14:20] hm, but i'm on 11.04 and using real hardware [14:20] jrwren: It got closed anyway. [14:20] i'm on real hardware also [14:20] could you mention that you're seeing it with $(dpkg-query --show unity) [14:23] np, let me know if you need anything else [14:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/749871/comments/16 [14:40] jrwren: RT @AaronErickson: Showing C# 3 to people who have only known Java is like going back 200 years and showing people your iPad. (heh) [14:41] rick_h_: unsubbing from #TNT and keeping #BOL? what does that mean? [14:41] podcast stuff [14:42] both do daily news [14:42] dropped one and kept the other, now the one I kept is annoying as #@$#@ [14:42] snap-l: eye rolling ensues [14:42] snap-l: its true though. C# is sooooo much more than "clone of java" like the haters suggest [14:42] brousch, well, dbo responded, maybe this will get fixed. [14:42] glad i finally decided to do something about it. [14:43] so if java sucks why is it on android and why is apache making awesome programs with it [14:43] DBO is in here you know [14:43] yeah, but i like talking behind his back [14:43] oh, shoot, he heard me [14:43] smoser: You are abetter bugman than I [14:44] well, i was in a bug submitting mood after i upgraded, rebooted, and couldn't log in at all [14:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/809890 [14:45] I have a couple of other problems I should report [14:45] sleep doesn't work, sometimes i can't get out of a screensaver [14:45] smoser: just don't use unity, it's that simple [14:45] did I say java sucks? no. I just said C# is better :) [14:45] rick_h_: I've come to the conclusion that I can't stand Sara Lane or Molly Wood [14:46] Though Molly Wood is infinitely more tolerable than Sara Lane. [14:46] causes my machien to freeze becasue my gpu and unity hate each other [14:46] ie: if she's a guest on a show, she's fine [14:46] when she's hosting, I want to stop listening. [14:46] snap-l: what show is this? [14:47] Buzz out Loud? [14:47] don't think I can listen to that anyway [14:48] snap-l is *really* trying to avoid work [14:48] not only *watching* cnet garbage, but talking about his favorite hosts [14:49] smoser: hardly [14:49] This is a long-held believ. [14:49] belief, even [14:49] why even bother listening to that stuff? its for techie grandpas [14:50] * snap-l gets ready to kneecap jrwren with his cane. [14:51] I don't listen to either regularly, mind you. [14:51] * smoser snickers, thinking of snap-l saying "Get off my lawn, or I'll throw my Zune at you. ROTTEN KIDS!" [14:51] smoser: Diamond Rio, good sir [14:51] Never bought a Zune [14:51] snap-l: do you even have a lawn? [14:51] granpda's don't buy diamond rios [14:51] nullspace: Yes, and I have your lawn to do donuts on [14:52] snap-l: my front lawn is in fact that big [14:52] i get my tech news from... ??? :) [14:52] Actually, i should correct that. I have this area in front of my house here grass proceeds to work through "the circle of life" [14:53] it's called the carbon cycle [14:53] I was part of the carbon cycle before it was cool [14:56] I'm so cool, I leave carbon crop circles. [14:59] who is going to make it to maker faire this year? [15:00] I sould say Detroit Maker Faire [15:00] quit having it the same weekend as pyohio :P [15:01] who wants to go to ohio anyway [15:01] deleware at least has an ocean, ohio has, well drive thru liqour stores [15:10] ohio has pythons! [15:21] mofo snakes in a mofo convention [15:31] boom [15:32] nullspace: I can't they did it same weekend as last year, and just like last year I have the same meeting to attend :| [15:32] yo dawg,i heard you like python so i put some pythons in your python... well, maybe not. [15:34] ouch [15:35] Tulalip has got to be worst codename for a project I've heard [15:35] tulalip? [15:35] wha? [15:35] krondor: I'm glad I'm not the only one [15:35] and usually MS does a bit better with those codenames [15:36] usually the codenames should be the product names [15:36] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_codenames [15:44] For those of us who aren't paying attention, what is Tulalip? [15:45] MS codename for their social network that had a nip slip last night [15:47] jrwren: technically you did not say that Java sucks (though you should have), nor did you say C# is better. You simply said C# was more... (more suckage?) [15:47] if suckage is complex, then yes. C# is more complex. [15:48] if suckage is powerful, then yes, C# is more powerful [16:02] brousch: You're kidding me [16:02] Apparently Microsoft is just going throw their dick into any hole and hope someone does something with it, aren't they? [16:04] (apologies, that reference was a little vile) [16:48] - D&D 1st Ed Monster Manual (Limit 3) 135 Points [16:48] http://gobretail.com/gobcurrentrewards.php [16:48] Sorry, but I find that funny [16:48] I think that means that they only have three available for rewards, but still... [16:56] https://code.google.com/p/support/issues/detail?id=2454#c43 [16:56] interesting [16:57] because they have: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/CodeReviews [17:40] snap-l: nice OMC intro [17:50] and of course i get 1/2 way through the first song before somone needs their hand held [17:58] how romantic.... ;-) [18:15] brousch: Heh [18:15] the music, it's scary. ;) [18:15] brousch: Thanks, though. Glad you enjoyed it. :) [18:19] i could barely tell it was you [19:06] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6698554/simple-cgi-python-webserver-php-not-working <- Update from Yesterday. [19:09] so it's solved? i can run my php in python now? [19:10] gah, I know Joy division really beok new ground but the lead singer just sounds like he is no even trying [19:11] instead I'll just listen to the smiths [19:17] * rick_h_ smacks forehead [19:18] Blazeix: ty, made my afternoon: https://twitter.com/#!/wafuqua/status/91949206234861568 [19:18] I can completely see myself in this situtation [19:18] situation that is [19:19] haha, yeah, it was amazing [19:20] "render damn you!!!!" [19:20] "I am, I am..." [19:20] we tried zooming out 6 or 7 times, but you need to zoom out ~25 times [19:20] I was chasing an html thing like that where the labels weren't showing on some JS generated images [19:20] just happened the default text was white on a white background [19:23] rick_h_: walked away yesterday and never noticed if you replied to the $.proxy comment [19:29] keeping context is good [19:30] $.proxy? [19:30] http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.proxy/ [19:30] ok, what's the deal? [19:31] keeps your objects in context [19:31] I guess I'm just finding it really useful [19:31] right, sorry feel like I missed this discussion [19:32] actually we are having it right now [19:32] ah, I've not had to use it really. [19:32] I tend to try to use events, callbacks, and pass what I need [19:32] I guess I'd do something more like using the extra params in an event trigger instead [19:32] and try to encapsulate that [19:33] I do to but sometimes this is just easier [19:33] cool [19:33] I made a jQuery pun [19:34] err an object oriented pun [21:19] Jeez, sf.net is hiring like mad [21:19] Unfortunately I can't get to their site. ;) [21:49] I have had more people follow me on Google Plus that I don't know than on Twitter. ;)