[04:59] <superfly> fp
[06:05] <sakhi> Mornings
[06:09] <superfly> morning sakhi
[07:14] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[07:15] <morgs> morning *
[07:23] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[07:23]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:27] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[07:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:27] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[07:56] <scar[w]> morning
[07:58] <Kilos> lo scar[w] morgs 
[07:59] <Kilos> lo Squirm 
[07:59] <Kilos> bbl gonna experiment on another drive
[08:08] <superfly> hi ki
[08:08] <superfly> ki<tab>
[08:08] <morgs> ki<tab><tab><tab>
[08:08] <morgs> heh
[08:09] <morgs> Maaz: tell Kilos hi
[08:09] <Maaz> morgs: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[08:40] <Squirm> hello
[09:18] <|3o|31> Why would one want two HDMI inputs on a monitor? Would they both come from the same graphics card? Does it improve image quality?
[09:24] <Kilos> hehe
[09:24] <Squirm2> hello there Kilos
[09:25] <Kilos> lo brother to Squirm 
[09:25] <Kilos> Squirm, is it just as cold the at night as here
[09:26] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[09:27] <Kilos> oh ya Squirm are you gonna sit in on the LPI classes
[09:37] <kbmonkey> dag hello o/
[09:41] <Squirm> what LPI classes?
[09:41] <Squirm> and last night wasn't that cold
[09:41] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey 
[09:42] <Kilos> kbmonkey,  and nuvolari  are gonna give classes here
[09:42] <Squirm> interesting
[09:43] <kbmonkey> and Kilos will be our test subject =D
[09:45] <Kilos> kbmonkey, give him the link to get the book please
[09:45] <kbmonkey> okay the link is http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[09:52] <Kilos> Maaz, LPI manual
[09:52] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[09:53] <Kilos> there now maaz has it for future refs
[09:57] <Kilos> Maaz, LPI manual
[09:57] <Maaz> http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual
[09:57] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ^^
[11:06] <inetpro> Kilos: hi
[11:44] <Kilos-> what is the correct command to get back to desktop after c+a+F2 please
[11:44] <Kilos-> i tried sudo gdm start and it told me its bailing out
[11:45] <kilos> something with init in i think
[11:49] <superfly> kilos: ctrl+alt+f7
[11:54] <kilos> ty superfly 
[11:56] <kbmonkey> got back to your desktop okay kilos ?
[11:57] <kilos> i will try it again hust now
[11:57] <kilos> hehe
[11:57] <kbmonkey> sjoe i have email backlog again, see a few ubuntu list mails unread :p
[11:57] <kilos> pulled the plug last time
[12:12] <kilos> yay ctrl+alt+F7 works like a charm
[12:33] <kilos> Yay. langjan has xchat installed
[12:40] <kilos> whether it is gonna work remains to be seen
[12:53] <kilos> hi Langjan 
[12:54] <kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[12:54] <Langjan> hi kilos
[12:54] <kilos> looks like we having some success hey Langjan 
[12:55] <Langjan> You certainly are a kanniedood!
[12:56] <kilos> lol
[13:01] <kilos> is everything working now Langjan 
[13:02] <Langjan> Havent checked, will get back to yuo but seems like you think it will be...
[13:05] <kbmonkey> welcome back Langjan 
[13:06] <Langjan> thanks kbmonkey, looks like all is well thanks to kilos and you, have just been able to install some new packages. 
[13:07] <kbmonkey> you have? kilos what did you do, you fixed it!
[13:07] <kbmonkey> mooi so XD
[13:08] <kilos> we went c+a+f2
[13:08] <kilos> then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:19] <kilos> oh and he should have aptitude now too
[13:20] <kilos> now i cant remember if gparted has to be installed in maverick or if its already there
[13:20]  * kilos does a jig
[13:21] <Langjan> yes you had me start with aptitude
[13:23] <kilos> good now if you want to install stuff
[13:24] <kilos> sudo aptitude install package
[13:24] <kilos> and with  older stuff that might be a bit updated
[13:24] <kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall package
[13:25] <kilos> also dont forget to untick the check for updates in update manager
[13:25] <kbmonkey> i don't know if gparted is on maverick,
[13:25] <kbmonkey> maybe also uncheck the option for partial updates
[13:25] <kbmonkey> if there is such an option?
[13:31] <kilos> i dont think so
[13:31] <kilos> it normally only asks that if you lose connection while updating
[13:39]  * scar[w] pokes highvoltage
[13:45] <kilos> Langjan, as in sudo aptitude install gparted
[13:46] <kilos> gparted is a patitioning tool so you can make a storage partition for backups and saving your packages you have downloaded
[13:46] <highvoltage> ouch
[13:47] <kilos> lol lo highvoltage 
[13:47] <highvoltage> hello kilos and scar[w] :)
[13:48] <highvoltage> scar[w]: ctwug scar?
[13:48] <scar[w]> jip jip
[13:48] <highvoltage> cool
[13:49] <scar[w]> ek wou se ekt gister 'n matroos gewaar op een van jou accounts
[13:51] <scar[w]> het gelyk asof jy besig was om 'n baie mooi email te tik
[13:52] <highvoltage> 'n matroos?
[13:58] <kilos> a sailor
[13:58] <scar[w]> ja iemand het daar gepraat van voort *** en sulke goed
[13:58] <kilos> musta been lotsa swearing
[13:58] <scar[w]> yeah
[14:18] <highvoltage> scar[w]: aaah :)
[15:24] <kilos> lo nlsthzn queery 
[15:25] <queery> hi oom kilos 
[15:25] <kilos> im not a oom anymore Langjan is the new oom
[15:25] <kilos> hee hee
[15:26] <nlsthzn> Hey uncle kilos ... two toppies are better than none :D
[15:26] <kilos> lol
[15:27] <Langjan> Lekker om 'n toppie te wees, kilos, are you saying I should no longer use update manager?
[15:28] <kilos> you can just to do the settings untick and then  let it update
[15:29] <kilos> Langjan, but in future you will update when it suits you
[15:29] <nlsthzn> So is ucle Langjan's PC working now?
[15:30] <kilos> i am sure because update manager couldnt get past the broken package to install 
[15:30] <kilos> nlsthzn, yip
[15:30] <kilos> yoohoo
[15:31] <kilos> and other packages couldnt be install because update manager was running without being able to do anything that was the problem
[15:33] <nlsthzn> Well I am glad you guys got it sorted out... way to go :D
[15:33] <kilos> Langjan, updte manager does your linux kernel updates and all the security updayes very lekker
[15:34] <kilos> hehe i am glad too because maverick rocks and i dont like to see peeps struggling with it
[15:34]  * kilos loves maverick
[15:35] <nlsthzn> The meerkat is allright :)
[15:35] <kilos> allright=understatement
[15:36] <kilos> Maaz, maverick ++
[15:37] <nlsthzn> Maverick has a few issues that they should have addressed IMO... Like upgrading the software store to have paid for apps...
[15:37] <kilos> well nlsthzn suggest that to the powers that be and hear what they say
[15:38] <kilos> if i could get vodacom as friendly  as maverick i would be very happy
[15:39] <nlsthzn> Oh... they know... but the policies will not allow it... 12.04 it will be rectified
[15:39] <kilos> ah
[15:40] <kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:40]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[15:40] <queery> Maaz, coffee please
[15:40] <Maaz> queery: Done
[15:43] <nlsthzn> Maaz: tea please
[15:43] <Maaz> Everybody here drinks coffee or goes thirsty
[15:43] <nlsthzn> :/
[15:44] <kilos> lol
[15:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kilos and queery!
[15:44] <kilos> Maaz, dankie man
[15:44] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[15:45] <queery> Maaz, botsnack
[15:45] <Maaz> queery: :-)
[15:58] <kilos> Maaz, whats for supper
[15:58] <Maaz> A nice thick homemade  oxtail and vegetable soup for starters and then Spaghetti bolognese
[16:00] <nlsthzn> yuck
[16:00] <kilos> what yuck?
[16:01] <nlsthzn> soup
[16:01] <kilos> hey hot soup does down well in cold weather
[16:02] <kilos> we like 2' c tonight
[16:02] <kilos> i dunno how to make a degrees sing
[16:02] <kilos> sign
[16:04] <nlsthzn> I always just right degC
[16:04] <nlsthzn> :)
[16:05] <kilos> lol
[16:05] <kilos> Maaz, arab supper
[16:05] <Maaz> Camel steaks and dates
[16:08] <kilos> i wonder why all ibids only make coffee
[16:11] <scar[w]> I also prefer natty if I'm running full opensource, maverick over natty if I have any proprietary software especially 3d drivers
[16:11] <scar[w]> bye everyone hope you have a nice weekend!
[16:12] <scar[w]> *also maverick
[16:12] <Kilos> cheers scar[w] 
[16:13] <Kilos> see ya monday
[16:13] <scar[w]> cya Kilos
[16:22] <Kilos> 10°
[16:22] <Kilos> hee hee
[16:22] <Kilos> nlsthzn, ^^
[16:23] <nlsthzn> I don't like dates... or camels for supper... congrats on the degree uncle Kilos :)
[16:24] <Kilos> hold down ctrl+shift and type in ub0
[17:09] <nlsthzn> Cool... I knew the Windows Office keys for special characters but not anything in Linux... Cool
[17:15] <tumbleweed> nlsthzn: it's actually really easy in linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_Key
[17:17] <nlsthzn> My keyboard doesn't have such a key
[17:21] <tumbleweed> you can configure it to have one
[17:21] <tumbleweed> check your keyboard settings
[17:28] <Kilos> thats all the windows key is good for. making a compose key
[17:31] <Kilos> Langjan, we also have a small afrikaans channel
[17:32] <Kilos> you type in /j #ubuntu-afr or add it in there by favourite channels by adding a , after #ubuntu-za
[17:34] <Langjan> does it help, ons afrikaners kan mos nie saamstaan nie...
[17:34] <Kilos> dis hoekom die kanaal klyn is
[17:34] <Kilos> lol
[17:34] <Kilos> klein
[17:35] <Kilos> we use it when this channel is kinda busy
[17:41] <nlsthzn> I like to use the windows key to launch the thingy in natty that makes me run applications... (all the new terminolgy makes my head spin)
[17:52] <Langjan> Kilos where do I type in /j #ubuntu-afr? 
[17:53] <Kilos> here jan
[17:53] <Kilos> eish here Langjan 
[17:58] <tumbleweed> nlsthzn: that's what the left windows key is for :)
[17:59] <nlsthzn> tumbleweed: my lappy has but one of those keys :p
[17:59] <tumbleweed> nlsthzn: also, there are other spare keys, like the right alt key, or caps lock
[17:59] <nlsthzn> /join #ubuntu-afr
[17:59] <Tonberry> the menu key
[17:59] <nlsthzn> Langjan: ^^
[18:38] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight and warm
[18:38] <Kilos> nlsthzn, sleep cool
[18:38] <Kilos> hehe
[18:38] <nlsthzn> Kilos: night
[19:09] <nlsthzn> Cheers for a while... but in the imortal words of some guy: "I'll be back!"
[19:26]  * nuvolari gives up
[19:26] <nuvolari> my mom wil never be able to search my name on a mobile phone.