[00:01] <pchosi> right. finally testing out oneiric in a real install
[00:03] <pchosi> hm, the gtk3 theme really is *very* basic (and partially really bad)
[00:04]  * pchosi slaps ochosi for not trying harder yet
[02:34] <charlie-tca> 64bit Xubuntu Desktop image refuses to start the installer
[02:34] <dtchen> fun.
[02:34] <charlie-tca> first image in a week
[02:35] <charlie-tca> I will tackle it tomorrow, too late tonight
[02:35] <dtchen> yeah, I need to head offline myself
[02:35] <charlie-tca> Glad to see you once in a while again
[02:36] <dtchen> ditto
[02:36] <Unit193> Without being rude, who was he?
[02:39] <charlie-tca> dtchen - a long time ago was the audio trouble-shooter for Ubuntu
[02:40] <charlie-tca> Probably one of the best people in open source on audio stuff
[02:41] <Unit193> Wow... Didn't know that! Any idea why he hangs around here (Not that I care, I'm just wondering!)
[02:41] <charlie-tca> also was a kernel developer for a few years, I think.
[02:41] <charlie-tca> He likes us
[02:41]  * charlie-tca shrugs
[02:41] <micahg> nice guy :)
[02:41] <charlie-tca> I don't really know, but I like having him around
[02:42] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu i386 desktop images also fail to start the installer
[02:45] <charlie-tca> micahg: you aware we are very oversize again?
[02:46] <charlie-tca> (includes all images, alternate and desktop)
[02:50] <charlie-tca> well, I got to go get some sleep/rest tonight. See all you good people tomorrow!
[02:50] <charlie-tca> save
[03:03]  * micahg saw the size...
[05:28] <astraljava> Yeah, Dan (dtchen) is one of the fellows who are helpful wherever they appear. :)
[05:48]  * Unit193 will learn to hide in the corner when important people show up
[06:21] <astraljava> Unit193: Haha! No, that's not how it goes. You get vocal, ask questions etc. That's how the wisdom is passed on. :)
[06:36] <astraljava> Hmm, did anyone else test alternate installs? I'm puzzled, because on the test spreadsheet, there's an entry that says "does not allow entry of password or selection of session"
[06:36] <astraljava> It works for me, though.
[06:39] <Unit193> My sister was doing a lot of college stuff and I couldn't really do it
[06:41] <astraljava> Sure no prob, just wanted some confirmation. But I marked my results in the sheet, I'll ask charlie when he comes in.
[14:13] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:13] <micahg> hi charlie-tca 
[15:13] <micahg> I saw the oversizedness, will try to look at it next week
[15:20] <charlie-tca> It probably won't matter, we still have no usable destkop session
[15:20] <charlie-tca> s/destkop/desktop
[15:22] <micahg> right, until the option to override the lightdm config at install time happens
[15:24] <charlie-tca> yes, and we have about 4 more bugs on hold for that
[15:26] <charlie-tca> I am pushing that in the release team meeting, too
[22:12] <beardygnome> test
[22:15] <charlie-tca> test here too?
[22:32] <astraljava> I will test tomorrow, way too exhausted now. :D
[22:32] <astraljava> Well, actually today, as it's way past midnight already.
[22:34] <charlie-tca> Thanks for testing yesterday/early today
[22:34] <charlie-tca> I am glad you got it to work
[22:48] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Yeah, wondered what that was all about. So you couldn't log in at all using the alternate?
[22:48] <charlie-tca> nope, I got locked into a lightdm loop
[22:48] <astraljava> charlie-tca: I just hit Other..., presented my username, chose session Xubuntu, typed my password, and in I went.
[22:48] <charlie-tca> everytime I click on my user name, it looped
[22:48] <astraljava> Nasty.
[22:48] <astraljava> Ahh...
[22:48] <charlie-tca> I didn't try Other, just my user
[22:49] <astraljava> Yeah, that won't work.
[22:49] <micahg> charlie-tca: probably bug 809890
[22:49] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:49] <charlie-tca> Fortunately, it doesn't affect this system
[22:52] <charlie-tca> Let's get our applications together for sponsorship to Orlando for UDS! 
[22:52] <charlie-tca> http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/07/15/ubuntu-developer-summit-sponsorship-now-open-2/
[22:53]  * micahg hopes to see you all there
[22:53] <dtchen> likely won't be there but deployed again
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Oh, man
[22:54]  * Unit193 also won't be there
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Well, work comes first
[22:54]  * micahg wishes dtchen well
[22:55]  * charlie-tca will apply, and be thinking of dtchen
[22:55] <astraljava> I'd love to be there, but I doubt I get sponsoring anywhere.
[22:56] <charlie-tca> you are an important tester, also a big part of UbuntuStudio. You have a good chance if you apply
[23:04] <astraljava> Well if you and Scott could praise me to death, then maybe. :D
[23:05] <dtchen> I'm happy to toss in my rec.
[23:06] <Unit193> astraljava: I'm sure you could make it with UbuntuStudio AND Xubuntu :)
[23:07] <dtchen> also, if you haven't been before, that's a point step
[23:07] <Unit193> I would think it would be mostly for devs anyway...
[23:08] <astraljava> Dan, seriously? Cool! Thanks a bunch!
[23:08] <astraljava> No, I never went before.
[23:09] <dtchen> Unit193: it's a development-focused (daytime, at least :-) conference, but it isn't mostly for developers. There's a healthy contingent of non-developers from the wider Ubuntu community represented.
[23:12] <Unit193> Thank you. I know someone that has gone as a non-dev, but I thought it was mostly, guess I'm wrong again :)
[23:16] <micahg> Unit193: it's for requirements gathering, the devs come to moderate some of the discussion, but non-dev input is welcome and desired
[23:20] <charlie-tca> um, I am not a developer...
[23:20] <charlie-tca> I am not a coder or packager, either
[23:20] <micahg> charlie-tca: you're a project lead :)
[23:21] <charlie-tca> Well, there is that
[23:21] <charlie-tca> But I have gone twice as qa, instead
[23:21] <micahg> k, that's important input too
[23:21] <micahg> it's all important
[23:22] <charlie-tca> I agree. You have to blow your own horn in Ubuntu to be noticed and get things done
[23:22] <Unit193> Don't you also do accessability?
[23:23] <charlie-tca> well, yeah
[23:23] <charlie-tca> I guess I do
[23:23] <charlie-tca> I forget about a lot of stuff, sometimes
[23:25] <Unit193> There is also the age factor :P
[23:27] <charlie-tca> hm, forgot that too, huh?
[23:29] <Unit193> *I wouldn't get a sponsor because of it
[23:29] <dtchen> you'd have to be younger than 17.
[23:29] <Unit193> Well, I'll be 18 by the time the images are fixed...
[23:30] <micahg> right, sense was sponsored last year to orlando
[23:32] <micahg> mr_pouit: I'll take the xfce4-indicator-plugin merge unless you want to do it
[23:33] <micahg> mr_pouit: I can also take the libdesktop-agnostic merge