=== orngjce223_ is now known as orngjce223 === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [02:34] <[]9876098[]> Is the graphical partitioning tool in the installed in version 6.06 a full-fledged partitioning tool, or do I need to use something else to prepare my partitions for installation? [02:35] <[]9876098[]> Whoops, installed should be installer; that was a typo [02:36] um, 6.06 is real old, and not supported any longer [02:37] I can't remember, but it should have the standard partitioning tool [02:39] []9876098[]: I would highly recommend doing a fresh installation with a supported version [02:39] <[]9876098[]> I would use a later version, but my computer's over a decade old. [02:42] <[]9876098[]> So the partitioning tool supports pretty much any operation I would need to do- moving, resizing, and formatting? [02:42] it should [02:43] I don't know how reliable it is now [02:43] I use Xubuntu 10.04 on my old computer, from the late 90's [02:44] p4, 1.5Ghz, with a whole 1gb of ram now that I upgraded it from 256mb [02:44] still has a couple of ISA slots [02:44] I run an *ubuntu on my 500MHz with 512M ram (some of that is taken for video) [02:46] <[]9876098[]> Mine is a Pentium III with 600mHz processor and 288MB RAM. I'm kind of worried that it would run sluggishly; that's why I'm considering installing an old version. [02:47] sounds like a candidate to try Lubuntu instead [02:47] !lubuntu [02:47] lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [02:47] It would be very slow with a current Xubuntu version [02:49] <[]9876098[]> Thanks, I'll check out Lubuntu and see if that would work. [03:25] Does anyone know if there is a keyboard shortcut to lock the screen on xscreensaver? [03:26] raginkestrel: It's Ctrl+alt+del [03:28] Errr... It is for me anywho... [07:55] good morning [07:55] what do i need to install to get global menu working in xubuntu? [08:04] Mandrew: i guess you'd need the gnome2globalmenu-plugin [08:04] i read somewhere recently that it works again with xfce [08:04] (v. 0.7.9 broke xfce-panel support) [08:05] ok so i dont need to install gnome panel then? [08:06] nope, theoretically it should work with the globalmenu-plugin [08:07] but you have to find a place to get packages [08:07] think the ppa is rather outdated [08:07] (i guess you'd need v. 0.7.10) [08:07] alternatively you could try v. 0.7.8, that once worked for me, but not with all apps, so i dropped it again [08:08] ok [08:09] so maybe its better for me to drop xubuntu and try to mod ubuntu to work on my netbook :S [08:09] i dislike unity strongly thats why i want to get this working [08:10] suit yourself [08:11] im really torn here :( [08:12] why is the globalmenu so crucial? [08:13] it helps me use as much screen property as i can on my netbook [08:14] dunno, you could just as well use a 1px theme for xfwm4 and use keyboard shortcuts to close, resize and minimize windows [08:14] instead you having one panel on the top and two on a active window ill inly have one [08:14] that gives you approx as much space as the menubar takes [08:14] could be something [08:14] you can move the panel to the left, set it to show icons only for open windows [08:15] you don't need a top panel imo [08:16] ok i give that a go [08:16] it's definitely easier/quicker to try that than to switch to unity ;) [08:18] i would use the desktop version and purge unity [08:18] the desktop version already have gnome menu installed [08:19] but i wanted something bit lighter then gnome and was hoping i could get everything working in xubuntu [08:20] and there is a lot of stuff that is preinstalled that i really like with xubuntu too [10:43] ochosi: does that plugin ned to be used through xfapplet? or is it indicator or something [11:44] Sysi: it's a native plugin for the xfce-panel iirc === CrazyGir is now known as Guest8015 [13:25] Hello, can I ask questions about installing Xubuntu here? [13:26] let me think.. this is the xubuntu support channel... yes [13:26] :) [13:26] :-) [13:26] Just making sure... [13:26] I have a question about setting up LDAP. [13:29] I've been using a guide on the internet to set up the LDAP client, and it worked fine on Debian. When I try this on Xubuntu though it is not working. After installing libnss-ldap I get an error message. [13:32] The message is: update-rc.d: warning: libnss-ldap start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match LSB Default-Start values (none) [13:49] far to advanced for me [13:54] for me too :-( === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [13:56] #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server propably would know more [13:57] that sounds like issue with inits, maybe packaging is just bad [13:58] my friend set up xubuntu 10.04 ldap clients, I think he had some problems with upstart and possibly PAM [13:59] OK, thanks for the tip, I will try #ubuntu-server and #ubuntu. [13:59] don't crosspost [14:01] OKM :-) [14:24] !webcam [14:24] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [14:24] i m having some problems with my webcam i can not watch or invite :( [14:24] can any one suggest me a software for yahoo chat ? [14:25] Lovehappens: pidgin [14:25] it does not support webcam [14:25] does it ? [14:26] and voice ? [14:26] Lovehappens: as far as I know it doesn't [14:26] i m looking for something for voice and webcam for yahoo [14:26] Lovehappens: I usually use the google video chat [14:26] Kopete and empathy r not working [14:26] Lovehappens: but of course it's not for yahoo [14:27] Lovehappens: I think their protocol is closed so it's hard to write a client that could use it [14:27] Lovehappens: I might be wrong though [14:28] where should i look for help ? [14:28] i went in #ubuntu [14:28] but they did not :( [14:28] yahoo support might know something... [14:29] i m on ubuntu [14:29] so? [14:29] yahoo does not supports linux does they ? [14:29] no idea, you can always ask [14:29] and demand that they do [14:30] if enough people will, maybe they will think about it [14:30] they should do it [14:30] agereed [14:30] but it seems they r blind [14:30] well, ask them [14:31] hmmmm [14:31] i ll [14:31] and maybe they already have something [14:31] or they started something and will let you in on a beta [14:31] but right now i m concerned with my webcam problem [14:31] does it work in cheeze? [14:31] yes it does [14:31] perfectly [14:31] even in skype [14:32] but in yahoo it does not :( [14:32] apparently pidgin doesn't support it [14:32] yes u r right [14:33] !yahoo [14:33] empathy is the default instant messaging and video client for GNOME. Since Karmic, it has been the default client in Ubuntu, replacing !pidgin [14:34] in empathy the call and video tab r not highlighted i cant click on them [14:34] you can say they r not enabled yet :( [14:36] !empathy [14:36] empathy is the default instant messaging and video client for GNOME. Since Karmic, it has been the default client in Ubuntu, replacing !pidgin [14:36] !ubottu empathy does not supports webcam [14:36] Lovehappens: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:36] !ubottu than i must say you are not helping me. [14:36] Lovehappens: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:36] hm, yahoo won't support linux, but you expect linux to be able to support Yahoo? [14:37] ubottu is a robot, it is not a person [14:37] i know that [14:37] yes i would love that if linux supports that awfull software too [14:37] Then perhaps messgeing it in private would be better [14:37] but yahoo should do that [14:38] Then please ask yahoo for help with it. That will at least make them aware that you need it. [14:38] i ll ask them [14:38] but as i allready said right now i m looking for an alternative for yahoo on linux [14:39] can u help me in this regards ? [14:39] Doesn't seem to be one that works [14:39] If yahoo won't allow anyone to see what the code is, it is very hard to do anything to make it work. [14:40] i do agree with you [14:40] but there might be an alternative software for that is nt it ? [14:41] no [14:41] :( [14:41] empathy, pidgin, xchat doesn't use voice and cam, what is left? [14:42] Your choices are a little limited by what you want. It must use webcam for picture and voice. There really aren't a lot of choices, then [14:43] in empathy they r not working [14:43] m i missing some plugins ? [14:43] and how would I know that? I don't even have a webcam [14:44] where should i look for help for that any ideas ? [14:44] I would try #ubuntu, where there are many more users than here [14:44] there are [14:45] but they did not helped [14:45] let me try again [14:45] thanks for ur help [14:45] Stay Blessed [14:57] My dell laptop hangs as soon as power chord is removed! [14:58] Anybody aware of solution to this ? [14:59] new battery? [14:59] Yeah u can say.. its a new laptop [15:02] It wont boot on battery [15:02] on unplugging the power cable it instantly freezes === tuna-fish is now known as essipessi [16:53] Hey guys [16:56] anyone aive? [16:57] nope [16:58] hey [17:06] lol [17:06] funny [17:06] gr, arch hates my TV display === Guest8015 is now known as CrazyGir [17:21] Hm... [17:38] Does xubuntu let you install codecs during install? [17:43] nope [17:43] i don't think so [17:43] Thanks. [17:45] noip: wait do you mean to listen to music while you install and stuff? [17:46] then you can install them temporarly and then again once the installation ends on the installed system [17:46] To be specific, I'm referring to the new option in Natty to let people install optional codecs during the installation process. Does xubuntu have that same option? [17:46] i do not know, charlie-tca might know tho [17:47] I know one can install the codecs after installation of the OS, but I was wondering if xubuntu had that same option made available during installation. [17:47] I'm watching a video on youtube that covers the install of xubuntu to find out. [17:48] :) [17:48] i usually install it whit the alternate cd so i don't know of fancy things :P [17:48] GridCube, A lot of these distro reviews on youtube aren't very good. [17:49] oh, we need people to make them :P you could make one if you want [17:49] :D [17:50] I plan to start making some at some point. I'm going to do it differently than the way these video are done. [17:51] :D [17:52] Well, I didn't see the option to install codecs. So, I guess it's not included during the install. [17:54] i have never heard of such option, but then again i just install xubu :P [17:56] GridCube, it's a very convenient option now included in ubuntu 11.04. Makes installing codecs super easy. [18:00] :) i guess it should [18:20] any one know anything about xorg.conf i have been trying to make my virtual screen size larger but xorg.conf doesnt wanna listen [18:21] can anyone help? [19:32] hi, anyone fancy offering some help? [19:33] Just ask the question, people will respond if they know the answer/are there [19:34] ok, sorry [19:34] Don't need to be sorry, just a friendly tip [19:34] i have xubuntu11.04. the update manager did updates last night. Now the pc wont boot, unless i go to previous version of xubuntu in grub menu [19:35] suggestions please? [19:35] any error messages? [19:35] boot in recovery mode from the grub menu, when the recovery menu comes up, choose fix files [19:36] when it finishes, restart the computer [19:36] nothing, just blank screen... when i switch the pc on, i get the usual post, then blank screen, then hard drive activity stops and it just sits there till i hit reset [19:37] tried that charlie....still wont boot after restart. [19:37] the blank screen is before the grub menu? [19:38] no, its after the cursor dissappears and xubuntu starts to load but stops after about 5 seconds [19:38] let it sit for about 5 minutes, and see if it does stop or it continues [19:39] did that...well, went to make a coffee and came back to the blank screen [19:39] also, edit grub menu using a one time edit to remove quiet splash, ctrl x to boot and see if there are any error messages when it stops [19:40] ok.....i will defo try this....im new to linux command prompt stuff but ok with gui stuff. [19:40] thanks for help [19:40] at the grub menu, hit e to edit the line, cursor down to the line with 'quiet splash' at the end, remove them, and hit ctrl X to boot [19:41] ok.....i'll go do that now.....thanks loads [19:41] then we need to know the exact error it gives when it quits [19:42] no worries, ill grab pen and paper [19:42] cheers, back soon [19:42] gl [19:43] thx [19:43] maybe booting with nomodeset to exclude graphics update failure [19:43] ah too late [19:43] * moxyr needs to learn to type quicker [19:44] Let's get the messages he gets and see [19:44] many times, just removing quiet splash lets it boot [19:44] true [19:47] besides, I always that part [19:48] besides, I always forget that part [19:54] hm, wonder if they have an encrypted /home causing issues? [20:18] anyone know how to make an xorg.conf file [20:23] Khazamon1o: haven't done it in a long time, but here is some help with it - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting [20:23] hi ppl. would you believe its boot up normal now?!?!?!.... [20:23] yes, trudy [20:23] thanks for your help earelier charlie. [20:23] when it plays up again, ill do the splash screen thing and will come for advice. [20:24] many thanks [20:24] Okay, you are welcome [20:24] bye [21:57] Does anyone know if there is a keyboard shortcut to lock the screen in xscreensaver? [21:58] ctrl+alt+del does it for me anyway [21:59] Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Application Shortcuts [22:00] Doh! Thanks. Considering that I am coming from Windows, I should have tried that. lol [22:01] That would bring up Task Manager in windows [22:02] Anywho, anything else? And no problem! [22:03] You are right Window key + L locks the screen in Windows. Thank you for your help. I have been able to everything else on my own. [22:03] Loving Ubuntu on my netbook and xubuntu on an old laptop. [22:04] Hello, one question is xubuntu produced by Canonical like Ubuntu and kUbuntu or Not? [22:04] :S [22:04] _D [22:04] gods [22:04] :D [22:04] yep canonical [22:05] darn. [22:05] vieq__: What do you mean by "produced"? [22:05] thanks any way. [22:05] Unit193: well, I was reading this http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/130006/#p130006 [22:09] Xubuntu is made by the Xubuntu devs and they use feedback from the community. As I know it, Canonical doesn't "make" it, Xubuntu just uses the ISO build system and Ubuntu as the base [22:09] yes i think thats about the same [22:10] xubuntu people do stuff changing the canonical stuff and adding their own [22:10] not exactly [22:10] canonical produce ubuntu [22:10] which is a base system + apps + unity [22:11] Canonical sponsers/gives money to Ubuntu the community [22:11] the xubuntu devs take the base system, add apps (some the same, some different) and adds the xfce desktop [22:11] is anyone else getting everything twice here? [22:13] beardygnome: kinda [22:14] you get two lines the same each line? [22:14] but at least I got the whole picture [22:14] charlie-tca: yes [22:14] nope [22:14] weechat [22:14] so that makes xubuntu a better ubuntu+de [22:15] ? [22:15] vieq__: depends how you define "better" [22:15] i find it is more suited to how i want to use my pc than ubuntu [22:15] beardygnome: well, functionality out of the box instead of instant breakages [22:15] how about that? [22:15] i've never had a problem using either straight out of the box to be honest [22:15] beardygnome: what chat client [22:16] charlie-tca: empathy [22:16] o-o-o-h-h [22:16] to sum it all both xubuntu & ubuntu have the same base? [22:16] it only happens in this room, not in xubuntu-dev / -offtopic [22:16] weird [22:16] some kind of echo turned on here? [22:17] vieq__: yes, they use the same base [22:17] I haz no idea of what you guys are complaining about. [22:17] beardygnome: very well then. [22:17] charlie-tca: i'll trying leaving and coming back in [22:17] okay, you made [22:17] it [22:17] ooops [22:17] that seems to have fixed it [22:18] that was three lines [22:18] vieq__: Ubuntu builds first, then Xubuntu takes what they have, removes some stuff, adds other stuff, and keeps some stuff [22:19] vieq__: are you running a linux distro atm? [22:19] (simply put, anyway) [22:19] charlie-tca: I like the idea of defining every anonymous thing as *stuff* :D [22:19] beardygnome: yes. [22:19] it's all open for you to examine, if you want to [22:19] what are running? [22:20] currently Fuduntu which as it's author describes Fedora + Ubuntu's Idea *sigh* [22:20] I was bored and I was like ... what the hell...know that kinda attitude? [22:20] on a usual day I am running OpenBSD so .... :) [22:21] vieq__: here is the latest build, showing what we removed and what we added, if you really want to know: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/oneiric/daily-live-20110715.log [22:21] last time I used Ubuntu was like 7.10 I think. [22:21] checking.. [22:21] i've not seen fuduntu, so i can't comment on how different / similar it would be to xubuntu [22:22] what de does it use? [22:23] it's basically Fedora (Gnome 2.x) plus AWN and Ailurus [22:23] that's all! [22:23] currently it's using Fedora14 as base and adds some stuff to it via fuduntu repo [22:23] interesting [22:24] so what ideas does it take from ubuntu? [22:24] not exactly D:, I can tell you the pros and cons if you like. [22:24] simplicity and ready-ness for the use. [22:24] mostly selective choice of apps and that's all [22:25] for instance he choose Ailurus to manage most of the quirks a user might do with a fresh install on the run. [22:25] so he's aiming for an rpm-based distro for new linux users? [22:26] he used Jupiter app, which is supposed to give you multiple choice for running modes when you haz fuduntu on a laptop [22:26] beardygnome: yub [22:26] charlie-tca: that's a darn LONG log. [22:27] thats what... nevermind [22:28] GridCube: if you're commenting on my English-FU then my friend you made an excellent choice by not continuing to. [22:28] I am not a native English speaker :) [22:29] (it was actually a very unapropiated joke) [22:30] GridCube: ah, unfortunately I would not be able to stay much longer to talk more about it. [22:30] it's time to blackout!, sorry heh.....have a sleep [22:30] and im a spañis speaker myself :P [22:30] Good night every one and thanks all. [22:30] spañish [22:30] good night vieq__ [22:30] vieq__: that's why I didn't try to give all the details, I said simply put, we add and remove "stuff" [22:30] how do you say good night in Spanish? [22:31] charlie-tca: I am illuminated now :D [22:31] Come back anytime [22:31] sure thing. [22:31] laterz all [22:43] Hi, I am running Xubuntu 11.04 on a IBM T42. I am a total linux noob (first day on Linux). When I leave the laptop unattended, the screen becomes black and I cannot get it back to normal. What should I do? Thanks [22:44] moving mouse, hitting space, nothing will work? [22:44] maybe pressing the power button once? [22:45] go to Menu -> Settings -> power manager, check what it is set for [22:45] yes, i tried all of the above but the screen seems locked [22:45] Most likely it suspends in about 15 minutes [22:45] and not all computers can handle that. [22:45] ok, that sounds like that might be the problem. [22:46] My hard-core Linux hubbie sent me here to try to figure this out on my own. (I suspect he knows that that is the real problem:)) [22:47] just open power manager, change it to never suspend/hibernate [22:47] I changed power manager to suspend "never" [22:47] That will probably fix it [22:47] :) that should do it [22:47] ok, thats what I did. Thanks! [22:48] I hope that fixes the problem. [22:48] You are welcome [22:48] I much appreciate the input. [22:49] thank you and good bye!