[01:24] <philipballew> how can i cut my terminal in half so i have 2 different sessions running in the same window?
[01:25] <stlsaint> philipballew: if you use terminator you just right click and select how you want to split
[01:25] <stlsaint> unless you are asking for something else.....
[01:25] <philipballew> i have gnome now though
[01:26] <stlsaint> terminator is a application
[01:26] <stlsaint> philipballew: or if using terminal just hit the file tab and select new tab
[01:26] <philipballew> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/ter/3.png like this
[01:27] <philipballew> that is terminator i know
[01:27] <stlsaint> philipballew: ok, so what is the problem?
[01:27] <stlsaint> philipballew: i just stated that you can do it with terminator so.....
[01:27] <philipballew> is that doable in  gnome terminal?
[01:29] <philipballew> probably not
[01:31] <stlsaint> philipballew: you need the application terminator
[01:31] <philipballew> alright, ill look into it
[04:45] <bobweaver> Any one know anything about Making a splash screen for kubuntu ?  I have tried downloading a a tar file  changing all the permissions then changing out the pictures and renaming the new pictures to what the old ones are then re-taring it still nothing
[04:54] <stlsaint> bobweaver: might be best to try the kubuntu channel, i am not a kde user
[04:55] <bobweaver> thanks stlsaint will do
[05:36] <bodhizazen> bobweaver, the splash screens are built into the initrd
[05:37] <bobweaver> Thanks bodhizazen I will look there
[05:37] <bodhizazen> Easiest is to replace the original with the one you want, and then rebuild the initramfs
[05:37] <bobweaver> how would one do that
[05:37] <bodhizazen> You can extract the initrd, swap out the splash image, and re-compress the initrd
[05:38] <bodhizazen> bobweaver, well, I personally do it by running the debian-live scripts =)
[05:38] <bobweaver> lol
[05:39] <bobweaver> I wish I was that smart one day though :)
[05:39] <bodhizazen> Not sure exactly how to do it in Ubuntu, google search how to extract and then re-compress the initrd, it is just an archive, not too hard
[05:40] <bodhizazen> The debian live scripts are the way to go, but, as with iptables, you sort of need to understand the basics first, then the live-build scripts automate the whole process
[05:40] <bodhizazen> But if you do not understand the process, hard to make use of all the automation, lol
[05:40] <bobweaver> sounds way cool
[05:40] <bobweaver> what should I study first assembly ?
[05:41] <bobweaver> bash
[05:41] <bodhizazen> http://live.debian.net/manual/ro/html/live-manual.html
[05:41] <bodhizazen> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man7/live-build.7.html
[05:41] <bodhizazen> you will have to read the man pages, and understand what they are talking about, lol
[05:42] <bodhizazen> bobweaver, start here: http://linuxcommand.org/
[05:42] <bobweaver> bodhizazen, you are awesome thank you so much
[05:43] <bobweaver> I have been watching the old cbt courses and there are helpful but old and for red hat
[05:45] <bobweaver> well I got some reading to do thanks again
[05:45] <bodhizazen> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/update-initramfs.8.html
[05:46] <bodhizazen> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man5/initramfs.conf.5.html
[05:46] <bodhizazen> Those tools will automate the process, but you will need to look at the configuration files
[05:48] <bodhizazen> good luck bob =)
[05:50] <bobweaver> thanks again bodhizazen Namaste
[06:08] <philipballew> can someone help me compile software?
[06:49] <coalwater> any 'bugs' person around here
[08:16] <bobweaver> bodhizazen: I did it thank you so much for the links I could never had done this with out you YES !!!
[10:58] <torzhan> Hi! (running 11.04). I set up the remote desktop function so I can access the machine from my phone. It works great, and I like the function that I get promted when someone tries to access the machine remotely. What I want to do however is to add an exception so that the machine recognizes the macID of my phone so I dont need to use the comp to allow access. I am brand new to Ubuntu and linux, so I really have no sense of wh
[10:58] <torzhan> ere to begin even. Any pointers?
[11:00] <ibuclaw> torzhan, what app are you using?
[11:00] <torzhan> ibuclaw, on the phone i use mocha vnc lite
[11:02] <torzhan> on the machine its the standard built in remote desktop
[11:06] <ibuclaw> torzhan, ok, just trying it on my phone. =)
[11:07] <torzhan> ibuclaw, Its good =) Abit laggy, cant handle the frames, but works great if you just switch songs etc
[11:17] <ibuclaw> wicked. =)
[11:17] <ibuclaw> hi from  mobile
[11:19] <torzhan> hi from machine ;)
[11:20] <ibuclaw> torzhan, in Desktop Sharing
[11:20] <ibuclaw> look at security options
[11:20] <ibuclaw> You have:
[11:21] <ibuclaw> - You must confirm each access
[11:21] <ibuclaw> - Require password
[11:21] <ibuclaw> the safer option would be to require password and just store the credentials on phone.
[11:22] <ibuclaw> though you could have neither checked - but that's not very secure in the slightest =))
[11:27] <torzhan> Exactly
[11:27] <torzhan> So what I want to do, is add an exception, or an IF rule to it
[11:28] <torzhan> if"this macid" allow instant access. That way I could connect anytime to it, and still have the same security features if someone else is trying to log on
[11:31] <ibuclaw> I don't think you can set this using the desktop sharing application itself
[11:31] <ibuclaw> possibly have it as a firewall rule though
[11:34] <torzhan> I think you just have to add it to the script that promts you
[11:34] <torzhan> Should be pretty basic stuff
[11:36] <bioterror> torzhan, if you use VNC just for playing music, try something console based like MOC or any MPD client with SSH
[11:37] <torzhan> bioterror, I am REALLY new to this. MOC, MPD and SSH are new acronymns to me. But Ill give it a look
[11:38] <bioterror> SSH = SecureShell
[11:38] <bioterror> normal stuff for windows too
[11:38] <bioterror> MOC is Music on Console, a text based music player supporting almost every music file format
[11:38] <bioterror> that's what I use
[11:38] <bioterror> MPD is a music player daemon
[11:38] <bioterror> it's a library kind of thing which you can command remotely
[11:39] <bioterror> many of my friends are MPD users
[11:39] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
[11:39] <bioterror> http://moc.daper.net/
[11:39] <bioterror> http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki
[11:41] <torzhan> Alright, right now I use Firefly(DAAP server) on my win desktop and just connect to it via Banshee from this machine
[11:42] <torzhan> MPD works with iPhone?
[11:43] <bioterror> at least 3 clients for iPhone
[11:44] <bioterror> http://code.google.com/p/impdclient/
[11:45] <torzhan> bioterror, can you run MOC on win7 tho?
[11:46] <bioterror> torzhan, probably with Cygwin :G
[11:46] <torzhan> bioterror, that's embedded right?
[12:01] <torzhan> bioterror, I dont think that will work with my current network setup. Ill get a media server later running ubuntu, by then it will most likely work great with MOC. But I dont think its the solution right now
[12:03] <bioterror> torzhan, as you wish ;)
[12:03] <torzhan> Thanks tho :)
[12:04] <bioterror> XBMC can be used with web browser
[12:05] <torzhan> looks nice, gonna check it out
[12:06] <bioterror> seems like there's some iPhone/iPod remote clients too
[12:07] <torzhan> Yeah I just checked, theres alot, and they look great
[12:07] <torzhan> We might have a winner, gonna try to set this up
[12:07] <bioterror> yeah, I use XBMC on my HTPC
[12:07] <torzhan> Is the server function built in the program?
[12:07] <bioterror> yes
[12:07] <torzhan> :)
[12:20] <torzhan> anyone know how to enable multiverse and multiverse repositories in ubuntu 11.04?
[12:20] <bioterror> from synaptics for example
[12:21] <bioterror> settings -> repositories ->
[12:21] <bioterror> and when you are there, enable partner too ;)
[12:22] <torzhan> Mate, < REALLY new :) synaptics?
[12:22] <torzhan> Package manager?
[12:22] <bioterror> yes
[12:22] <torzhan> Win!
[12:23] <bioterror> I am really worse in helping with regular ubuntu ;)
[12:24] <torzhan> Well its hard to help in text :) since got no idea of my previous exp, but from now on, assume I just learned to press the power button ;)
[12:26] <torzhan> Hm, getting a 404 error when trying to get the xbmc launchpad
[12:27] <bioterror> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO_install_XBMC_for_Linux_on_Ubuntu,_a_Step-by-Step_Guide
[12:27] <torzhan> I am following the guide
[12:27] <torzhan> But it says it cant locate the standalone and the launchpad
[12:31] <bioterror> ha
[12:31] <bioterror> that's becouse there's only for 10.10 and below
[12:32] <torzhan> hah
[12:32] <torzhan> Great
[12:32] <bioterror> but wanst you going to use it windows 7?
[12:32] <bioterror> where is your music and stuff?
[12:33] <bioterror> I understood it like that
[12:33] <torzhan> The server is going to be on my win7 machine
[12:33] <torzhan> THats where I got all the media
[12:37] <torzhan> Ive got it working already through firefly and banshee
[16:18] <Abhijit> hi
[18:26] <kristian-guest> hi all
[18:26] <holstein> kristian-guest: hey! :)
[18:26] <kristian-guest> trying to put Lubuntu on usb, using unetbooting and win
[18:26] <kristian-guest> I get "errors found in 1 files" again and again
[18:26] <holstein> in what step?
[18:27] <holstein> did you confirm the md5 of the downloaded iso?
[18:27] <holstein> i usually format the stick before each unet attempt
[18:27] <kristian-guest> yes, it was correct
[18:28] <holstein> kristian-guest: is it lubuntu 11.10 ?
[18:28] <holstein> maybe drop back to the latest alpha
[18:28] <kristian-guest> no, 11.04
[18:28] <holstein> kristian-guest: you could try the ubuntu tool, but you'd have to be in ubuntu
[18:29] <holstein> maybe see if you have the latest unet for windows
[18:29] <kristian-guest> I do, installed it 5 mins ago
[18:29] <holstein> if the iso is good, then its windows or unet it seems
[18:30] <holstein> maybe step down to an older version of unet
[18:30] <kristian-guest> this is not a bug
[18:31] <kristian-guest> ?
[18:31] <holstein> kristian-guest: seems like it, but is it a linux lubuntu bug?
[18:31] <holstein> thats the question
[18:31] <holstein> kristian-guest: i would try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[18:33] <holstein> i think its safe to assume the lubuntu 11.04 iso is good
[18:33] <holstein> and if you properly confirm you have the iso DL'd with no errors
[18:34] <kristian-guest> I did
[18:35] <kristian-guest> hmm
[18:35] <kristian-guest> pendrivelinux.com is down
[18:35] <holstein> kristian-guest: you did what?
[18:35] <kristian-guest> check the DL
[18:35] <holstein> OH... yeah
[18:35] <Unit193> www.linuxliveusb.com/en/download Will check the ISO and make a boot USB
[18:36] <holstein> Unit193: that iso is *not* hybrid right?
[18:36] <holstein> its the 11.10 ones that you can dd i believe
[18:36] <Unit193> holstein: That is just a windows tool, not an ISO download
[18:37] <holstein> Unit193: right... i was just wondering if you knew off the top of your head when the iso's went hybrid
[18:38] <holstein> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Will-Be-Distributed-As-Hybrid-CD-USB-images-206765.shtml
[18:38] <kristian-guest> Unit193: I was thinking of that too
[18:38] <holstein> yeah, 11.04 iso are not
[18:39] <holstein> what im proposing is that the iso is downloaded and checked and proper, so any errors would be with the tool
[18:41] <kristian-guest> should I "hide created files on key" ?!
[18:42] <holstein> i would be using it for that, and then wiping it, so i wouldnt, but if you plan on using it as a live stick for long term, and other data, that might not be a bad idea
[18:49] <kristian-guest> I'm trying again
[18:54] <kristian-guest> I get a lot of "no such file or directory" on the translations
[18:54] <holstein> kristian-guest: when?
[18:54] <holstein> making the stick?
[18:54] <kristian-guest> during the integrity check
[18:55] <holstein> did it pass?
[18:55] <kristian-guest> still working
[18:55] <kristian-guest> I guess error reports are made instantly
[19:10] <kristian-guest> now it says 117 files
[19:10] <kristian-guest> wt*`?
[19:28] <[styx]> this may not be the right channel but ill ask anyway
[19:29] <[styx]> when ever i try to git clon something my whole system freezes
[19:29] <[styx]> and im forced to reatart
[19:29] <[styx]> any help?
[19:30] <coalwater> was it working before, or since u started it's like this ?
[19:31] <[styx]> i dont clone that often
[19:31] <[styx]> but last week it worked
[19:33] <coalwater> i don't know really, i haven't tried git before, but i suppose it's like bzr and every thing
[19:33] <coalwater> maybe it's the firewall?
[19:34] <coalwater> i can't tell u to test cause ull probably have to restart if it's not
[19:35] <[styx]> lol
[19:35] <[styx]> ok
[19:35] <[styx]> ill search around more
[19:36] <coalwater> u sure it freezes u even can't switch to tty1 and kill it ?
[19:37] <[styx]> i cant don anything except move my mouse
[19:37] <[styx]> no click or no alt + f2
[19:38] <holstein> how about control+alt+F2 ?
[19:39] <coalwater> lol, if he tries it he wont be able to come back, u come back by ctrl alt f8 btw, or f7
[19:39] <holstein> coalwater: good point ;)
[19:40] <coalwater> i think u killed him
[19:40] <coalwater> :D
[19:40] <holstein> :/
[19:40] <coalwater> hope he can figure it out
[19:43] <coalwater> i think we'll see a ping timeout sometime soon
[19:47] <[styx]> lol
[19:47] <[styx]> even if i did need a reboot
[19:48] <[styx]> i wouldnt leave
[19:48] <[styx]> because i have a bouncer
[19:49] <holstein> [styx]: are you able to get to tty ?
[19:50] <coalwater> hey pedro3005 :D hi
[19:50] <pedro3005> hi
[19:51] <[styx]> i havent tried yet
[19:51] <[styx]> i dont feel like rebooting
[19:51] <holstein> like coalwater suggests, try going to tty when the system is hanging and kill whatever it is
[19:52] <holstein> [styx]: for me, control+alt+f7 is how i get back to the current graphical display
[19:52] <holstein> should be F7 to F8
[19:52] <coalwater> i think u should try sudo ufw disable , cause if u made the firewall deny outgiung it might be why it hangs
[19:54] <holstein> if you have a router firewall, it would be cool to try that as a test at home without any worry
[19:55] <[styx]> kk
[19:55] <[styx]> here goes nothin
[19:55] <[styx]> i have to elave anyway so its all good lol
[19:55] <[styx]> yay i don freeze but get an error lol
[19:56] <coalwater> what error
[19:57] <coalwater> 'here goes nothing' lol
[19:58] <[styx]> fatal: destination path 'emerald' already exists and is not an empty directory.
[19:58] <[styx]> just need to remove the directory
[19:58] <[styx]> im cloning emerald from git
[19:58] <holstein> hmmm... not sure about that
[19:59] <holstein> the few things ive used from git were not already on the system
[19:59] <holstein> and i remember trying to specifically *not* install them system-wide
[19:59] <holstein> i would probably RTFM a bit more before rm /whatever/emerald and hitting the button
[19:59] <[styx]> well ill figure this out later
[19:59] <[styx]> i have to go
[20:00] <holstein> OR, at least have a backup of it, and know how to recover
[20:00] <[styx]> all the things i do to get emerald on unity lol
[20:00] <[styx]> 11.04*
[20:00] <[styx]> thnkas for the help guys
[20:00] <coalwater> dont forget to re enable ur firewall
[20:01] <coalwater> sudo ufw enable
[20:03] <[styx]> yeah i did
[20:04] <coalwater> ok, just making sure
[20:29] <kristian-aalborg> back home... phew, that was an embarrasment :(
[20:30] <kristian-aalborg> I feel guilty about all of linuxdom when stuff like that happens
[20:30]  * IAmNotThatGuy blinks
[20:35] <kristian-aalborg> IAmNotThatGuy, dunno if you witnessed the Birth of Fail earlier on... getting a netbook to boot from USB
[20:35] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah... thanks for explaining :)
[20:42] <kristian-aalborg> I feel bad even talking about it
[20:42] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, what was it you said about new boot stuff?
[20:42] <kristian-aalborg> and, sorry for being a bit absent before, I had a lot of things to tend to
[20:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> kristian-aalborg, real life really acts strange sometime. let me read the logs now and try to help you if I can
[20:45] <kristian-aalborg> IAmNotThatGuy, I am no longer at the faulty situation
[20:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> ah okies
[20:46] <kristian-aalborg> the person and I are going to try and get our hands on an usb/cd device and try from there
[20:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> Okay I am heading to beds. its 2:20 AM
[20:50] <IAmNotThatGuy> night all
[20:52] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: the newer iso's are hybrid
[20:52] <holstein> from here on in AFAIK
[20:52] <holstein> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-11-10-Will-Be-Distributed-As-Hybrid-CD-USB-images-206765.shtml
[20:53] <coalwater> hybrid means?
[20:53] <bioterror> damn it took long
[20:54] <bioterror> now we can just dd if=ubuntu-11.10.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[20:54] <holstein> yeah, its a good thing
[20:54] <holstein> no more unet or whatever manditory
[20:54] <kristian-aalborg> hard to dd on win boxen
[20:55] <kristian-aalborg> I like unetbootin
[20:55] <bioterror> I like dd
[20:55] <kristian-aalborg> so do I... I like a lot of software ;)
[20:55] <holstein> http://uranus.chrysocome.net/linux/rawwrite/
[20:55] <kristian-aalborg> I think they should go hand in hand... so that you can dd if you want and use a gui if you want
[20:56] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: thats where we are
[20:56] <kristian-aalborg> sweet
[20:56] <bioterror> you can just move the files
[20:56] <holstein> you can use unet still if you want
[20:56] <bioterror> there's no need for unet :D
[20:56] <holstein> you can also bit copy with something other than dd
[20:56] <bioterror> and half of the unetbootin's have not even worked :D
[20:56] <kristian-aalborg> however, id did not work... tried three times... finally settled for that other app, as it made a "more correct" looking boot
[20:57] <holstein> id didnt work?
[21:12] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, 3x unetbootin and 1x the other app... no workie
[21:12] <kristian-aalborg> to make things worse, I've hyped Linux to this person for years :/
[21:13] <bioterror> try another distribution
[21:13] <bioterror> or plain debian
[21:13] <bioterror> or what ever
[21:13] <bioterror> :D
[21:14] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror, Lubuntu is really made-to-order for this situation
[21:14] <kristian-aalborg> or whatever the term is... it's the perfect thing to use
[21:20] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: peppermintOS is lubuntu based
[21:25] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, yes, that sounds like a neat little distro also... I just happen to know my way around Lubuntu enough to offer good support
[22:42] <kristian-aalborg> so, this is weird... my *browser* dies periodically, but internet connection seems fine
[22:42] <kristian-aalborg> browser is chromium
[22:43] <holstein> maybe try another browser to be sure
[22:44] <holstein> id probably look at a PPA like https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/stable
[22:44] <kristian-aalborg> yeah, I'm going to fire up the fox the next time it happens ;)
[22:45] <holstein> im running 12.0.742.112 (90304) Ubuntu 10.04
[22:59] <kristian-aalborg> ok, so connection seems to get very bad instead of actually dying... I guess "less demanding stuff" like irc is still cool, though