[04:33] <guest_> Hey anyone awake here?
[04:35] <guest_> #ubuntu isnt helping and i just need to know the command to remove Light gdm please.  It keeps crashing and wont let me login to my normal account
[04:44] <vish> guest_: light dm? are you on Oneiric? probably try in #ubuntu+1
[04:44] <guest_> vish, im using 11.04
[04:44] <vish> guest_: then how are you using lightDM?
[04:44] <guest_> installed the ppa
[04:44] <vish> !
[04:44] <guest_> :/ i know
[04:44] <guest_> lol
[04:44] <vish> ;p
[04:45] <guest_> it just refuses to login into my main name
[04:45] <guest_> i can only use a guest account
[04:45] <guest_> so idk how to remove it without sudo :/ or atleast make gdm main again
[04:45] <vish> guest_: try ppa purge, and hopefully it should reinstall the gdm
[04:46] <vish> !ppapurge
[04:46] <ubot4> Factoid 'ppapurge' not found
[04:46] <vish> hmm..
[04:46] <vish> !ppa-purge
[04:46] <ubot4> To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[04:47] <guest_> can i do this all from a guest account?
[04:48] <vish> guest_: i dont think so..  but if you know your admin password maybe.
[04:48] <guest_> i do, but it wont use sudo
[04:49] <guest_> hmm, plus i wouldnt even know where the subdirectory would be for lightdm anyway
[04:49] <guest_> lol
[04:49] <guest_> i guess im screwed...
[04:49] <vish> guest_: lesson of the day, "dont screw with core components" ;p
[04:50] <guest_> vish, it was running so well too! (until the most recent update)
[04:52] <guest_> vish, is there a way to access the files under that account? i just want to save my music
[04:52] <vish> guest_: try from LiveCD or LiveUSB..
[04:53] <guest_> vish, can it be a disk from 10.10?
[04:54] <vish> guest_: yup, should work.. (but we are really off-topic on this channel..)
[04:55] <guest_> vish, yes.  im sorry no one in #ubuntu was helping.  (btw this is chewyTree if you are wondering)  im part of the bug squad :D.  thanks for the help
[04:55] <vish> np..
[06:47] <coalwater> can someone help me with 1 thing
[06:48] <coalwater> hggdh, said u don't bite :D lol
[06:48] <coalwater> i need some help with a bug
[06:51] <vish> !ask > coalwater
[06:51] <ubot4> coalwater, please see my private message
[06:51] <coalwater> yea yea, i know i just had to make sure someone's around
[06:51] <vish> bye.. ;p
[06:52] <coalwater> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/787600 i just want to make sure the bug watch i added is correct.. is it ?
[06:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 787600 in nautilus (Debian) (and 1 other project) "Clicking the active tab in the unactive pane doesn't switch panes (nautilus) (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Unknown,Unknown]
[06:53] <vish> coalwater: nope.. you should select "Also affects project" not distro..
[06:54] <coalwater> i felt so, ok i'll fix it
[06:54] <coalwater> how do i delete it :D
[06:55] <vish> coalwater: you can't delete the debian task, after you open the Gnome project task, just close debian task as invalid (with a comment)..
[06:57] <coalwater> hm can't find gnome-project
[06:57] <coalwater> gnome project or w/e
[06:58] <vish> coalwater: click the "also affects project" and select/search "Nautilus"
[06:59] <vish> (you have forwarded the bug to Gnome bugzilla)
[07:00] <coalwater> ok, so i just put nautilus, without a link to the other bug ?
[07:02] <vish> coalwater: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches
[07:02] <coalwater> yea, that's the link that's already confusing me lol
[07:02] <vish> coalwater: specifically » https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches#Watching_Another_Project
[07:03] <vish> coalwater: just add the upstream link in the options you get after you choose Nautilus
[07:03] <coalwater> ok, i didn't know it's 2 different pages, was expecting the url thing to be in the same page
[07:03] <coalwater> now invalid to the deb one ?
[07:04] <vish> coalwater: yup..
[07:04] <coalwater> how, doesn't let me change it
[07:04] <vish> coalwater: hmm, wait it's not a simple change, I'll do that for you..
[07:05] <coalwater> ty
[07:05] <coalwater> when ur done could u do little explaining :D
[07:07] <vish> coalwater: I first had to remove the bugwatch for the debian task and then had to close it.. (I wasn't sure you had those options available to you..)
[07:09] <vish> coalwater: also, could you comment the Launchpad bug number/link in the upstream bug?  it would be easy if easy for others to check in both places
[07:09] <coalwater> ok
[07:10] <coalwater> on the add bug url ? or just a comment
[07:11] <vish> coalwater: just comment something like "Bug first reported in Launchpad : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/787600 "
[07:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 787600 in nautilus (Debian) (and 2 other projects) "Clicking the active tab in the inactive pane doesn't switch panes (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Invalid]
[07:11] <coalwater> ok thanks
[07:12] <vish> coalwater: btw, what version# of Ubuntu and Nautilus are you facing this?
[07:12] <vish> i'm not noticing the problem in Maverick..
[07:12] <coalwater> natty
[07:13] <vish> coalwater: ok, so thats another you can add in the comment as well..
[07:13] <coalwater> on which bug
[07:13] <vish> coalwater: upstream is more necessary
[07:15] <coalwater> so i mention my os version or mention that it doesn't apply on urs
[07:17] <vish> coalwater: your(broken) version is important when reporting the bug
[07:18] <coalwater> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654723#c2 good enough ?
[07:18] <ubot4> Gnome bug 654723 in Tabs "Clicking the active tab in the unactive pane doesn't switch panes" [Minor,Unconfirmed]
[07:22] <vish> coalwater: yup, looks good..
[07:22] <coalwater> ok thanks :D
[07:23] <coalwater> maybe i should apply for getting a bugsquad mentor or something lol
[07:26] <coalwater> vish, https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship-group-alpha what's this
[07:28] <coalwater> ur listed as owner
[07:28] <vish> coalwater: yup, thats for bugsquad mentoring
[07:29] <coalwater> what's the difference between it and this https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad-mentorship
[07:30] <vish> coalwater: nothing, the alpha one is the new group, you apply to bugsquad mentorship and we add you to the alpha one..
[07:31] <coalwater> so do i need to apply on the wiki page first
[07:32] <vish> coalwater: no, just read the wiki page, "How To Request a Mentor"
[07:35] <coalwater> vish, is there a place that lists the packages that i might be interested in, just to have a look at what's available
[07:36] <vish> coalwater: good Q..
[07:36]  * vish looks..
[07:43] <coalwater> brb
[07:46] <vish> coalwater: couldnt find it.. but not necessary if you dont have anything specific..
[08:12] <coalwater> vish, so i need to update my wiki and say that i don't have something specific i'm interested in ?
[16:40] <njin> hello, please reproduce  and set status medium to bug  810651 . Thanks Fabio
[16:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 810651 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "volume is not restored at the right level when unmuted if it is set upper 100% (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/810651
[18:57] <alex_mayorga> Hi! Any way to have bug 808551 processed?
[18:57] <ubot4> alex_mayorga: Bug 808551 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/808551 is private
[18:58] <alex_mayorga> !retrace
[18:58] <ubot4> Factoid 'retrace' not found
[19:08] <bil21al> i want to report the home folder bug what should i run in terminal ??? and one more question
[19:23] <abhinav-> bil21al: just curious, what do you mean by bug in home ?
[19:25] <bil21al> i have bug in home folder when ever i open my home folder the mose  begins to rotate seems like it is loding some thing ..
[19:26] <bil21al> the mouse option is begins to rotate like somthing is loading
[19:27] <abhinav-> is that happening only with your home directory or all the directories ?
[19:27] <bil21al> with home only
[19:28] <abhinav-> for example if you run "nautilus /etc/" in terminal, then ?
[19:29] <bil21al> if i open it from terminal than its right but when i open it from home folder then it happens
[19:30] <bil21al> like it happens when i open it from launcher icon
[19:30] <coalwater> so nautilus ~/ is ok right?
[19:30] <bil21al> ok
[19:32] <abhinav-> and the mouse pointer does not change to normal at all ? like after sometime ?
[19:32] <bil21al> yes yes,,
[19:32] <bil21al> its about for 30 sec or more
[19:33] <abhinav-> might be the case you are running out of space in your /home partition (assuming you have a separate /home) ?
[19:34] <coalwater> maybe he can paste his df
[19:35] <bil21al> no i have to much space in my home folder
[19:36] <bil21al> its in 11.10
[19:36] <coalwater> u have it installed or is it a live cd
[19:38] <bil21al> no there is no cd
[19:38] <hggdh> what is the size of the home folder? Run, on a terminal, 'du -sh', and report the output
[19:39] <bil21al> hggdh cannot read directory
[19:39] <hggdh> actually, ' du -sh ~'
[19:40] <bil21al> ok i again check it
[19:40] <hggdh> bil21al: pleas post on pastebin the command and complete output -- http://pastebin.ubuntu.com -- and then post the link here
[19:41] <coalwater> du won't really tell how much free space , just how much occupied space
[19:41] <hggdh> indeed. One step at a time ;-)
[19:41] <coalwater> ok :D
[19:42] <coalwater> btw, i applied for bug mentorship, i liked the UDW session :P
[19:43] <hggdh> coalwater: :-)
[19:44] <bil21al> hggh see this out put
[19:44] <bil21al> du-sh~: command not found
[19:44] <bil21al> bil21al@bil21al-ThinkPad-T60:/$ du -sh~
[19:44] <bil21al> du: invalid option -- '~'
[19:44] <bil21al> Try `du --help' for more information.
[19:44] <hggdh> coalwater: but, as I stated there, you do not really need the mentorship, easier to hang on this channel & ask questions when you are in doubt
[19:44] <hggdh> bil21al: try: "cd; du -sh"
[19:44] <coalwater> i dont know i got little confused adding a bug watch today
[19:45] <hggdh> bil21al: er. there has to be a space between -sh and ~
[19:45] <coalwater> u need to put space
[19:45] <bil21al> 1.4gb
[19:45] <coalwater> yea
[19:45] <yofel> launchpad isn't allways intuitive. So feel free to ask questions abou the UI ;)
[19:45] <bil21al> out put is 1.4GB
[19:45] <yofel> #launchpad can help you too if something seems broken
[19:45] <hggdh> not really big... mine, for example, is ~ 25G
[19:46] <coalwater> yea, im around the same too
[19:46] <coalwater> if launchpad doesn't give me my karma in the next couple of days im gonna stop doing launchpad work :D
[19:46] <bil21al> but here in pakistan hard disk are so costly so that way but it not hapen in 11.04
[19:47] <bil21al> yofel my karma is not increasing
[19:47] <yofel> hey, we don't work for karma! (well, we do sometimes :P) and it takes a day or two sometimes until the karma gets updated
[19:47] <coalwater> mine is frozen since like 5 days :(
[19:47] <brendand> no, it's broken
[19:48] <brendand> it's not been updated since it got skipped when they made lp read-only when karma was supposed to be updated
[19:48] <yofel> ah, I've got more karma than I need so didn't notice ^^
[19:48] <hggdh> bil21al: so. You open Nautilus against your home dir, and you get the rotating pointer. Does it stop rotating?
[19:48] <coalwater> but for me it stopped just when i really started to work hard lol
[19:48] <yofel> coalwater: added yourself to 5-a-day yet? That's a nicer statistic and karma IMO
[19:49] <yofel> s/and/than/
[19:49]  * hggdh just found karma's low...
[19:49] <hggdh> not that I really care ;-)
[19:49] <bil21al> yes it stops rotation after 30, to 40 sec  hggdh
[19:49] <coalwater> yofel, i don't know, i think i could start with 1 a day lol
[19:49] <yofel> coalwater: you'll show up here then ;) http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/five-a-day/
[19:51] <penguin42> don't think I actually manage to do 5 a day that often
[19:51] <yofel> vish is still the overlord taking first and second place
[19:51] <coalwater> 5 a day means triage 5 bugs a day?
[19:51] <yofel> coalwater: roughly yes, it counts the mails that are sent out from your work (filing bugs doesn't count)
[19:53] <bil21al> has any body having this problem ,https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/modemmanager/+bug/811612
[19:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 811612 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "modem-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in mm_serial_port_close() (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[19:53] <coalwater> i'll need someone to hold my hand and show me how to do that step by step
[19:54] <yofel> coalwater: IIRC you only need a public mail address on launchpad and need to join the team
[19:54] <yofel> see the link at the top of the statistics page
[19:56] <coalwater> there, im in the 5 a day thing lol, now i need to actually find 5 too easy ones that even i could do
[19:58] <hggdh> bil21al: it does not really seem like a bug... run 'ls -R ~ | wc -l', please, and report the number it will print at the end
[20:01] <bil21al> i run ls -R than to much detail came but wc -l dosent do any thing
[20:02] <coalwater> hggdh, what's wc?
[20:02] <coalwater> counts lines huh
[20:02] <coalwater> nice
[20:02] <hggdh> coalwater: wc counts the lines, words, and chars (actually, bytes) in a file
[20:03] <bil21al> now what i do?? hggdh
[20:03] <hggdh> so 'wc -l' will count the number of lines in  a file (mind you, a line ends with a LF)
[20:03] <coalwater> i think he didn't use the pipe
[20:04] <hggdh> bil21al: 'ls -R ~ | wc -l'
[20:04] <hggdh> I agree
[20:04] <hggdh> bil21al: mind the spaces and symbols in the above command
[20:05] <coalwater> hggdh,  i always needed something that does wc, i usually try to silly hacks using grep lol
[20:06] <coalwater> so brendand , any idea when launchpad is getting it's full functionality back ?
[20:06] <hggdh> heh. The beauty of Linux (UNIX, in general) is that there is usually a hack already written to do so something. The bane of Linux is there are a *LOT* of them...
[20:06] <hggdh> coalwater: probably very soon. The LP folks really care about it
[20:07] <coalwater> i've noticed there's quite some bugs reports about changing karma system and karma listing page and such, is this part of the reason  ?
[20:08] <bil21al> hggdh when i run wc -l than no out put is comming cursor is blinking but no out put
[20:08] <coalwater> bil21al,  u need to write the whole thing on the same line
[20:08] <yofel> bil21al: did you use the pipe?
[20:08] <hggdh> bil21al: please post *exact* command you issued
[20:08] <bil21al> no
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[20:08] <bil21al> ok sorry i try again
[20:09] <coalwater> hggdh, u think a high files count might cause this ?
[20:09] <coalwater> wouldn't it just scan 1 level ?
[20:09] <coalwater> i mean it ( nautilus )
[20:10] <bil21al> hggdh  539
[20:10] <bil21al> out put is 539
[20:12] <hggdh> coalwater: it could -- nautilus will scan the dirs
[20:12] <hggdh> bil21al: and what was the command you ran?
[20:12] <coalwater> mine is 13300 :D lol
[20:13] <hggdh> coalwater: the '-R' on 'ls' means it will recurse on all subdirectories
[20:13] <coalwater> yea :P
[20:13] <bil21al> i run ls -R ~ |  wc -l
[20:13] <coalwater> it kind annoys me that some use -r and some -R
[20:14] <coalwater> mind he's running the alpha2 probably
[20:14] <hggdh> yes, there is a lack of coherence, but everybody is already using the options as they are for the last 40 years, difficult to change
[20:14] <bil21al> yes i m using 11.10
[20:15] <hggdh> bil21al: all your home is local? Or would you have some remote filesystems loaded also?
[20:17] <bil21al> no no i hav not loaded any filesystem
[20:19] <hggdh> well, this is a bit weird, then.
[20:20] <bil21al> hmm
[20:20] <bil21al> what i do
[20:20] <bil21al> now
[20:20] <bil21al> ?
[20:20] <bil21al> report a bug or not
[20:21] <bil21al> ?
[20:24] <hggdh> bil21al: you *could* report a bug. But, right now, I would rather have you opening a question on askubuntu.com, or ubuntuforum.com.
[20:24] <hggdh> this will allow for more people to look at it and try to zero in.
[20:25] <bil21al> ok
[20:45]  * brendand missed what the issue was
[20:48] <coalwater> loading icon for the mouse in nautilus when started from launcher
[20:48] <coalwater> stays for long
[20:50] <brendand> loading your $HOME?
[20:50] <brendand> stays long after the files have been loaded or do the files still not appear?
[20:51] <coalwater> i think they do appear, but the mouse stays on loading icon
[20:51] <coalwater> for about half a min or so
[20:51] <coalwater> home dir isn't stuffed, and running the 11.10 alpha
[20:51] <brendand> 11.10?
[20:52] <brendand> any updates applied?
[20:53] <coalwater> i dont know, he's gone now, he was told to ask in askubuntu or ubuntuforums
[20:54] <brendand> oh, it was bil21al had the problem?
[20:54] <brendand> i see
[22:26] <penguin42> anyone know about backporting of kernel fixes for LTS - see bug 682159
[22:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 682159 in linux (Ubuntu) "Cannot install Ubuntu-Server 10.04.1 32 bit using a NEC DVD_RW ND-35xx PATA DVD drive (affects: 2) (heat: 28)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682159
[22:28] <penguin42> it's a nasty failure, but there again it's probably going to be nasty to find what fixed it
[22:30] <penguin42> and can I suggest it's set to 'High' 'Has a sever impact on a small portion of Ubuntu users'
[22:39] <penguin42> e
[22:55] <hggdh> penguin42: it can be backported, if we are able to zero in the fix (and, of course, there are no nasty dependencies)
[22:56] <hggdh> or you could try the Natty backported kernel for Lucid
[22:56] <penguin42> hggdh: The reporter is obviously up for trying new versions, lets see what his answer to my question about the natty and earlier oo alpha was
[22:57] <penguin42> hggdh: Can you set the importance?
[23:00] <hggdh> penguin42: yes -- thought you already were in -control...
[23:01] <penguin42> hggdh: It's a nasty bug in the sense that who knows which patch fixed it and it's going to take some rather specific hardware to test
[23:03] <hggdh> penguin42: done. Please do us a favour, and apply for -control ;-)
[23:03] <penguin42> well if you put it that way....
[23:03] <hggdh> LOL
[23:04] <hggdh> I will be glad to give you a +1 :-)
[23:08] <hggdh> penguin42: it would be nice to have them collect the debian-installer log (when it fails, scroll down on the D-I menu, select to start the HTTP server, and then do a wget on the syslog)
[23:12] <penguin42> isn't it easier to scp it off?
[23:15] <hggdh> if you have ssh installed...
[23:15] <hggdh> which probably is not at this point in time
[23:16] <penguin42> ah I thought the client side was there by default; hohum
[23:17] <hggdh> oh, there *is* a d-i syslog in there
[23:18] <hggdh> and there are some I/O errors reported, I guess at the point things went south
[23:21] <hggdh> penguin42: another thing that could, perhaps, help: add, in the linux command line, 'DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer'. This will add some more d-i messages to the log
[23:21] <hggdh> (I mean linux boot command line)
[23:21] <penguin42> hggdh: That was from one of the reporters, not the other
[23:22] <penguin42> hggdh: I did have one suspicion though that it could just be duff disc burns and given a few million users we just hitting the coincidence on drive models
[23:25] <hggdh> it could, but one of the posters cooment on using a series of dvds and cds
[23:29] <yofel> anyone an idea what would cause nouveau.ko to end up in initrd? No idea what's the right package to reassign bug 811701 to
[23:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 811701 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "Nvidia driver unfunctional in oneiric since 2011-07-17 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811701
[23:29] <penguin42> something trying to make a prettier splash?
[23:30] <yofel> well, I can live without the splash as long as I get a usable graphics driver
[23:37] <hggdh> yofel: I had the same -- nouveau was loaded, and refused to go away even when blacklisted; when I booted in recovery, nVidia would work. Then I installed 3.0.0-5, and it went away
[23:38] <hggdh> and I do not have splash at all...
[23:38] <yofel> heh, I had this on 3.0.0-5 too though :/
[23:38] <hggdh> ugh!