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| * Kreative` is away: Away | 06:15 | |
| broder | !away > Kreative` | 06:20 |
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| ubottu | Kreative`, please see my private message | 06:20 |
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| bluefoxicy | is start-stop-daemon broken? | 16:07 |
| bluefoxicy | bluefox@icebox:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/privoxy restart | 16:07 |
| bluefoxicy | * Restarting filtering proxy server privoxy | 16:07 |
| bluefoxicy | Warning: Fake start-stop-daemon called, doing nothing. | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | no, but your installation is | 16:07 |
| bluefoxicy | I just installed it. | 16:08 |
| bluefoxicy | er, just installed privoxy | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | one way in which that can happen is if debootstrap crashed midway through and didn't undo its temporary start-stop-daemon shsim | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | *shim | 16:08 |
| bluefoxicy | hmm.... | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | I expect you have /sbin/initctl.REAL and /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL ... | 16:08 |
| bluefoxicy | yep. | 16:09 |
| bluefoxicy | which package do I reinstall? | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | you don't, move those files back over the non-.REAL variants | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | I further expect that /debootstrap/debootstrap.log or /var/log/bootstrap.log will exist and have some complaints | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | did you debootstrap by hand? | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | I have no idea how broken that installation might be in other ways | 16:09 |
| bluefoxicy | no | 16:10 |
| bluefoxicy | what's debootstrap? For building debian from scratch? | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | man debootstrap | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | sorry, I'm doing other things and won't have time to walk through things that are documented | 16:11 |
| bluefoxicy | k | 16:14 |
| bluefoxicy | this is a new install from a month or two ago so I dunno what happen. Oh well. | 16:15 |
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| cousteau | it would be nice that apt-get had a "--queue" option to queue actions to the package manager while it's running | 17:47 |
| pdtpatr1ck | Question -- why is it when u use cat the directories would put a space after each word? whereas if u use cd .. it would do a directory walk adding / at the end as it should? | 18:11 |
| Ampelbein | pdtpatr1ck: what? | 18:14 |
| pdtpatr1ck | What i'm asking is .. if for instance i want to do cat /etc/network/interfaces .. if i type cat /et and tab complete - it would add a space instead of doing /etc/ to continue. Whereas cd does it automatically. Just wondering why it does that in ubuntu. | 18:16 |
| cjwatson | sounds like a bug in bash-completion | 18:19 |
| pdtpatr1ck | yeah thats what i thought | 18:20 |
| Ampelbein | pdtpatr1ck: I can't reproduce in oneiric though | 18:20 |
| cjwatson | it doesn't do that for me | 18:20 |
| pdtpatr1ck | im on 11.04 | 18:20 |
| pdtpatr1ck | u guys on 11.10 ? | 18:21 |
| abhinav- | I can't produce it on Natty | 18:21 |
| pdtpatr1ck | type cat /etc | 18:21 |
| pdtpatr1ck | and tab | 18:21 |
| pdtpatr1ck | does it put a space? | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | n | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | no | 18:21 |
| cjwatson | (11.10) | 18:21 |
| abhinav- | No, it puts a slash on hitting tab after 'cat /etc' | 18:22 |
| pdtpatr1ck | ur on 11.10 right? | 18:22 |
| abhinav- | I am on 11.04 | 18:22 |
| pdtpatr1ck | i've tried it on many boxes with 11.04 and it does it each time. | 18:23 |
| abhinav- | hm. well I have only one system running :) | 18:24 |
| cjwatson | I can't reproduce it in my 11.04 chroot either. But I've seen this kind of thing in the past, so I expect the required circumstances are just a bit more specific than what version of Ubuntu you're running. | 18:25 |
| cjwatson | I don't know bash-completion well enough to be able to guess what those circumstances might be. | 18:26 |
| Ampelbein | thinking about it, isn't filename completion a bash internal function and not at all related to the package bash-completion? | 18:27 |
| pdtpatr1ck | im going to look at the bash_completion code and see what its doing maybe that might help me | 18:28 |
| cjwatson | Ampelbein: yes, though bash-completion very often overrides it for individual commands | 18:31 |
| cjwatson | if 'complete -r cat' makes the problem go away, then it's due to bash-completion | 18:31 |
| pdtpatr1ck | from what im seeing . looks like the directory commands such as cd are will see the directories whereas commands like cat sees the files. Ehh not a big deal.. will look at it more and customize it my liking if i have to | 18:31 |
| cjwatson | I do not think that explanation matches how it actually works, no | 18:32 |
| cjwatson | or at least not how it's supposed to work | 18:32 |
| cjwatson | cd is told to complete *only* over directories, it's true; but that shouldn't influence the suffix placed when some other command such as cat *does* complete a directory | 18:33 |
| cjwatson | you might check whether you've turned the mark-directories readline option off in ~/.inputrc (if you've never heard of it, you haven't) | 18:35 |
| cjwatson | although that wouldn't cause an extra space, it would just remove the slash ... | 18:36 |
| pdtpatr1ck | is there a manual for complete? or is that some function in bash_complete? I don't see where it was created but i've seen it used many times with different options. | 18:40 |
| cjwatson | it's a bash builtin | 18:46 |
| cjwatson | it's documented in 'man bash' | 18:46 |
| pdtpatr1ck | thanks cj | 18:50 |
| puttaraju | hi, | 19:21 |
| puttaraju | QUESTION: im following development setup given in link, http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/getting-set-up.html#get-set-up-to-work-with-launchpad | 19:22 |
| puttaraju | its taking more than 2 hours for this command : pbuilder-dist <release> create | 19:23 |
| puttaraju | can anyone tell me what this might be doing ? | 19:23 |
| cjwatson | it does have to download quite a lot (as that page says) | 19:24 |
| puttaraju | anyidea how much? | 19:24 |
| bryceh | varies on your internet connection / computer | 19:24 |
| cjwatson | should be on the general order of 100MB (but I don't use pbuilder so I don't know exactly) | 19:28 |
| puttaraju | cjwatson: thanks for the info | 19:33 |
| puttaraju | will wait and see for 1 more hour then | 19:33 |
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| rww | Hello! (and apologies if this is the wrong place). What's the separation between "Ubuntu Server" and "Ubuntu Desktop" as far as EOL on LTS goes? Is there a list of packages that are supported for 5 years and the rest are supported for 3 or something? | 20:26 |
| directhex | rww: yes | 20:29 |
| rww | directhex: Thanks. Is there a copy of the list for hardy online somewhere? | 20:30 |
| directhex | good question | 20:32 |
| rww | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/dapper/supported.txt seems to be the one for Dapper, but the obvious URL substitution doesn't yield one for Hardy, and the Desktop EOL announcement doesn't have one. | 20:33 |
| directhex | it's somewhere in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.hardy/ afaik | 20:36 |
| directhex | there's also a script, ubuntu-maintenance-check or similar | 20:36 |
| rww | okay, I'll look through that script and see what it's checking against, thanks :) | 20:43 |
| rww | I assume that no universe and multiverse packages are 5-year packages anyway, just main and restricted? | 20:44 |
| broder | rww: the 3-year/5-year thing doesn't apply to universe/multiverse in the first place | 21:32 |
| broder | as i understand it, the extended support periods are a commitment from canonical | 21:32 |
| cjwatson | on lucid, you can do 'apt-cache show' and get the support period from the Supported: field; I forget how you were supposed to do that on hardy | 21:36 |
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| qb89dragon | I'm making a deb package and need to force dependencies to install silently (without presenting the user with configuration choices), any idea how to modify my control file to do this? | 21:56 |
| slangasek | qb89dragon: a) packages should in general install silently by default so if they don't, you should consider reporting this as a bug; b) if they prompt for configuration, there's no way to override this from a depending package. | 21:59 |
| rww | broder: That's what I thought. Thanks :) | 22:17 |
| pdtpatrick1 | Is there some problem with bridge networking in ubuntu? | 23:06 |
| pdtpatrick1 | http://pastebin.com/Yz4bJF8e | 23:06 |
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| slangasek | pdtpatrick1: as the output says, the interface you're using is deprecated. Is there a particular problem you were trying to fix by using /etc/init.d/networking restart? | 23:31 |
| slangasek | (but I'm afraid I'm headed afk now, so can't help further with this - but I would expect 'ifup br0' to be what you want) | 23:32 |
| pdtpatrick1 | slangasek, it turns out it was supposed to be bridge_ports instead of bridge_port .. that was fix | 23:55 |
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