[00:02] and there is google talk [00:04] this thing is so slow [00:05] what handset? [00:05] galaxy s [00:06] the main problem here is that it shows the contacts from "other contacts" the ones that gmail automatically adds [00:07] yeah,I thought that was good [00:07] if i delete them in gmail i won't get email autocomplete any more [00:08] but the only option is to show them all or show none of them [00:08] ali1234: get a T9 dialer [00:08] what [00:08] T9 is for text entry [00:08] phone numbers are composed of numeric characters only [00:09] so what is a T9 dialer??????????? [00:09] ali1234: you can get dialers, you dial the first few "numbers" and it picks from your phone book [00:09] like say for example I wanted to call you [00:09] but i don't know the first few numbers [00:09] I'd dial 254, and I'd get you [00:09] because 2 is Abc, 5 is jkL and 4 is ghI [00:09] so I dialed Ali and it picked you from the book. [00:09] ut the phone has no keyboard [00:10] this makes no sense [00:10] numbers on the keypad have had letters assigned to them [00:10] argharalhkfherycelsrlexjfe [00:10] since forever [00:10] lol [00:10] this is doing my head in [00:10] i can't cope with this phone [00:10] haha [00:11] can i turn off the obnoxious transition effect on every single menu? [00:11] I've started to think it is best to have a phone as a phone, and comp as a comp, all things totally seperate [00:11] ali1234: http://www.simplynetworking.es/wmsimages/60894cell-phone-numbers.jpg [00:12] phones, since forever, letters have been assigned to the numbers [00:12] hamitron: that's because it is best [00:12] with my phone I can dial the name of a contact, and that's who it calls [00:12] that's what a T9 dialer does, they cool :D [00:12] skype downloaded 14% [00:12] this is taking forever [00:13] welcome to my world \o/ [00:13] ;) [00:21] still at 14%... this better be good [00:27] I've given up with phones [00:28] if I buy anything, will get something that is barely a phone, maybe more like a netbook [00:28] but neither I value highly enough to consider anything atm [00:28] :) [00:29] hey look at that... skype doesn't work [00:29] it just says "skype has stopped working" [00:37] ali1234: it knows it's the weekend [00:37] nope, it's a known bug [00:37] skype doesn't work on this phone [00:37] called saturday [00:37] skype not interested in fixing it either [00:37] :> [00:38] i'm sure all but windows phone versions will get pulled soon enough [00:38] because of multitouch? [00:39] i dunno [00:39] naw [00:46] because it doesn't work properly it doesn't even finish installing [00:46] so now i can't uninstall the broken app because the market thing just says "installing" forever [00:46] this is a joke [00:46] I don't like how there are so many different versions of android, and how new versions come out so quick [00:46] :/ [00:47] this phone is rubbish, do not buy one [00:47] what is it? [00:47] ali1234: skype is rubbish, do not use skype [00:47] :) [00:48] also do not assess a phone based on skype, because skype is rubbish [00:48] the uninstaller is also broken [00:48] the phone is slow, takes ages to boot up [00:48] probably because it's packaged badly :P [00:48] android "contacts" is a mess [00:48] the UI is ugly [00:50] it's not even properly integrated anyway [00:50] also this phone is massive for no good reason [00:50] it's bigger than the N900 [00:50] why?? [00:51] i like that i can give skype 1 star and then say "it's defective" when i remove it [00:51] maybe this thing at least has some good games for it [00:53] oh, a google+ app [00:53] lets try it [00:53] what is it? [00:53] galaxy s [00:53] this phone you hold in such high regard [00:53] ah samsung [00:53] i hear that one's buggy as fudge [00:54] oh, this one won't even install. nice [00:54] it just says it "will be downloaded" then nothing happens [00:54] sometimes those statuses are only there for half a sec on mine [00:55] yeah [00:55] but then it disappears and the app is not installed [00:56] well at least i get free angry birds [00:56] probably the same demo as i had on the nokia though [00:57] latest OS updates i take it? [00:57] and a nice clean boot :D [00:59] factory reset, dunno what version it has [00:59] don't really care [00:59] if i'd paid for this i would be returning it tomorrow [01:00] hehe [01:01] my HTC Desire gets gingerbread this month :D [01:01] wow... unlock phone to a nice fullscreen "network error" message [01:01] it doesn't say which network of course [01:01] hahaha [01:01] where'd it come from? [01:02] i have no idea [01:02] it doesn't say [01:02] the actual phone i mean [01:02] it just has an "ok" button on it [01:02] oh the phone is a loaner from a company i work for sometimes [01:03] ah [01:04] i will persevere with it and make a list of everything i don't like... that's why they lent it to me after all [01:04] but seriously if i had bought this i would be really unhappy right about now [01:06] after all i heard about how symbian sucks and android is way better [01:06] this is something of a let down [01:06] i'm pretty certain you've got a defective one there [01:06] i mean symbian might be lacking features, but at least the features it does have actually work [01:06] or the mem card isn't wiped so something's acting screwy [01:07] that's hardly an excuse [01:07] if it was pre-used, kinda is [01:07] not at all [01:08] symbian doesn't work with a messed up memory tbh [01:08] ;) [01:08] factory reset should, you know, reset it to the way it came from the factory [01:08] well that's true up until some dumb user goes "oh but my pics on the microSD..." [01:08] :> [01:09] symbian doesn't depend on the microsd being available at all [01:09] it's only used for data files [01:09] don't call me dumb, I done that :/ [01:09] ;) [01:09] oh it's got that racing game installed on it... maybe this will work [01:10] who said anything about symbian D: [01:10] * daftykins wipes hamitron [01:10] i did [01:10] symbian works, this doesn't [01:10] very funny. [01:10] ja [01:10] although i'd like to suggest that it's daft to compare an entire OS to another based on one product [01:10] :> [01:12] my phone has gotten to the "random reboots when idle" stage \o/ [01:13] ooh wubberly [01:13] which be that? [01:13] htc hero, running cm7 [01:14] ah [01:14] gl ali :) [01:14] nn all [01:14] odd, you didn't use to like candybars [01:15] daftykins: at the time i was buying, it was the third android phone on the market - htc dream (t-mob g1), htc magic, htc hero [01:15] and the g1 was oooold by that point [01:16] true [01:16] i might use a modded ROM once a gingerbread successor is out [01:16] as my Desire won't get any updates past then most likely [01:16] i'd rather have a real keyboard though, given how android's input thread is trivially locked out by other goings on [01:16] heh, that game is actually pretty good [01:17] it's frustrating to press a button, the phone detect the keydown event, then take 2 seconds to notice the keyup - so you put a symbol instead of a letter [01:17] i like haptic feedback and typing landscape on mine [01:17] ooo multiplayer [01:17] heh sounds like the hardware can't handle the ROM [01:17] daftykins: true. but it did this on the 1.6 it shipped with ;) [01:18] daftykins: android is inherently weak at things like this - modern phones gloss over the flaws with mhz [01:18] mmm [01:19] it's new phone time whenever i'm ready [01:20] anyway, BEDTIMEZOMG [01:21] indeed it is [01:21] moar TNG for me i think [01:23] wow the battery is nearly flat already [01:23] welcome to android gaming [01:23] that part is realistic++ [01:26] oh dear god the LCDs are burning my eyes [01:26] that makes it time to move [01:26] o/ [02:13] stupid samsung won't even let you download the firmware updates [02:13] you have to install "kies" first [02:13] then connect the phone to your windows pc [02:13] this is lame [02:14] of course kies has a load of stuff i don't need like yet another audio and video player [02:33] this phone gets really hot :( [02:36] ok i wiped both the sd cards, did a factory reset, and then wiped the sd cards again, just to be sure [02:36] now i'm going to attempt to upgrade it [02:36] then i will do another factory reset and sd wipe, just to be sure [02:52] ok kies won't let me upgrade because i have country code "xxx" - i guess this is an engineering model or something [02:52] that might explain why the firmware is so awful [02:53] so how do i install cyanogenmod? [02:54] 0o [02:54] you might be able to load a ROM from the SD card if you can get to the bootloader for recovery capability [02:55] well yeah but kies won't even download the firmware [02:55] surely some enterprising xda developers forum member has them hosted [02:55] anywho, bed for me nn! [04:48] aaaaaaand finally i think i have android 2.3.4? [04:48] looks better already [04:54] finally i can select which contact groups to display [04:54] this is much better [04:57] the youtube app now shows my subscriptions instead of a bunch of random rubbish [04:57] again, this is much much better [04:58] maps is much faster too [05:02] which phone? [05:02] galaxy s [05:03] which version did you have before? [05:03] 2.1-update1 [05:04] yes, then 2.3 will be quite an improvement :) [05:04] 2.1 really sucks [05:05] but i don't know if it is because of samsung or google [05:05] Samsung probably [05:05] also the samsung updater refused to update it right to the end [05:05] i had to use odin and a dodgy rom from xda forums [05:05] claims to be stock though [05:05] definitely Samsung [05:06] I've re-flashed my Vodafone Nexus One with stock Google firmware [05:06] lost me Dutch speech output, but gained me instant firmware updates [05:06] same on my xoom [05:06] this was not branded before [05:06] i think it's engineering model [05:06] mine wasn't branded either [05:06] it just had "European" firmware on it, that was being vetoed by Vodafone [05:07] "not branded" to the point where it didn't even have a valid country code :) [05:07] oops? [05:07] i dunno, i don't know much about android [05:08] i've still got the samsung app store so i guess it's at least semi official [05:08] I hate vendor-branding like that [05:08] (hence my choice of Nexus, also it's metal instead of plastic) [05:09] me too but it seems to have some free games that cost a few $$ on the android market [05:09] and it's not like it's in your face all the time [05:09] neither is Google'sMarket [05:12] it has both [08:49] morning earthlings. [08:52] Morning [08:52] * Lcawte wonders if the next ubuntu-gaming team meeting will go ahead... :/ [08:55] morning === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [09:46] aloha [09:51] czajkowski, just about to go shopping [yawn] but o/ anyway [09:55] Lcawte: why wouldn't it? [09:55] morning all [09:55] popey: we're not exactly the biggest team yet :P [09:55] I thought it was the Debian-Ubuntu games team [09:56] or is this something else? [09:57] launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming [09:57] it is another team Laney [09:57] wiki.ubuntu.com/GamingTeam [09:57] sadly [09:58] morning everyone. [10:00] we have nethack [10:00] job done? [10:02] i wonder if scsharp is in a packageable shape for contrib [10:03] directhex: do you backup your gameOS? [10:04] popey, pfft no. it's called steam! [10:04] :D [10:04] gameos is 100% combustible [10:04] hah, reporter on bbc news 24 is about to get blown away with her umbrella [10:05] bah i miscalculated how much work i would need to do today [10:05] the disk in my osx mbp went phut, insert disk, connect backup and about 3 clicks later it's all back exactly as it was [10:05] wish windows and ubuntu had that [10:06] I think I managed to rescue my photo collection from my on the verge of breaking truecrypted external drive [10:07] I don't have any decent pictures of me and mum together, the best I found was me wearing a Star Wars t-shirt and we both having our eyes closed [10:07] so I'll have to survive with the knowledge there's some good pictures of mum that I've taken [10:13] * popey spies someone subscribing to linuxjobs [10:14] :-> [10:15] popey: thanks for reminding me *buys another backup disk* [10:22] lolwhat [10:22] I jumped from popey's electronic playlist to disco playlist... [10:23] heh [10:23] spotify? [10:23] yeah [10:23] didnt realise I'd shared them [10:25] i recently learnt that you can create a radio stream based off another user on last.fm, its been rather fun doing htat :) [10:26] Mew seems to fit my mood at the moment... [13:10] noisy bunch today 'eh [13:38] Hi, I've got a problem with sessions - the startup is slow and most of the time it (Unity or such) fails to appear [13:39] It started to happen after switching my graphics card from nv to ati, the drivers are installed [13:48] KMS issue? [13:58] http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2011/jul/15/app-developers-withdraw-us-patents - interesting [14:53] :) [14:55] the speed of my adsl has gone from 6Mbit/s to 8Mbit/s [14:56] since i requested a tranfer from my current isp to another isp [14:56] qos ftw. [15:12] good afternoon [15:29] seems like setting swappiness to 0 didn't solve the issue [15:30] shiny spike to load average: 13.19, 11.46, 5.95 [15:30] making everyone time out \o/ [15:58] join i3detroit [16:03] !lts [16:03] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [16:05] * hamitron pokes Azelphur [16:05] yea? [16:05] is your server up? [16:05] no I turned it off because I was bored one day [16:05] ;/ [16:05] :P [16:07] something is broken then, elsewhere [16:11] hmm.... sarcasm: the *highest* form of wit [when executed correctly] [16:48] <^aDaM> Evenings :) [17:41] t [19:12] [Tony] OggCamp 11 more tickets available! - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/04/27/oggcamp-11-more-tickets-available/ [19:13] rss fail from tony there I think [19:59] hmm [20:00] indeed [20:00] evening HazRPG :) [20:00] about 3 months of a fail too [20:00] brobostigon: evening :) [20:17] hey guys [20:17] is there a way to echo the current bash prompt? [20:18] for two people to see the same thing? [20:18] shared screen session? [20:18] no [20:18] jsut to echo the single prompt [20:20] like how to echo john@satsuki:~$ [20:20] echo $PS1 will show you how it is defined [20:21] right but what if I actually want it [20:22] http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/index.html it will be in there somewhere [20:25] although I can't see it [20:26] pwd will return the current directory [20:26] Just ordered my 1st SSD. Exciting times! [20:28] zomg [20:28] a 2T PCIe drive? [20:28] why isn't avahi-dnsconfd installed by default on ubuntu server [20:30] AlanBell: Because I assume people setting up servers actually want to be careful about what services it provides [20:31] suppose so [20:31] I just like ssh hostname.local to just work [20:32] nod [20:33] especially having done the setup, unplugged the monitor and keyboard and such, and put it out of easy reach [20:34] well you can still go in via ip [20:35] yeah, did an nmap to find the thing :) [20:35] * penguin42 generally prefers broadcast pings [20:35] how do you do one of them then? [20:37] AlanBell: ping -b 192.168.1.0 I think should do it [20:37] hmm not managing to get it to work here, wonder why - even with sudo [20:38] ping -b 192.168.2.255 gets one machine responding [20:38] not the one I wanted though [20:41] odd - I've done it many times before, but not here for quite a while [21:31] good night everyone, sleep well. [22:04] I'd be all for having avahi out of the box. especially if it was clever enough to only start on interfaces that had private addresses