| _marx_ | hum | 02:29 |
|---|---|---|
| holstein | _marx_: you calling a meeting? | 02:29 |
| _marx_ | sure, email it | 02:30 |
| holstein | email what? | 02:31 |
| _marx_ | oh sorry i was thinking of another conversation | 02:32 |
| holstein | i was responding to the emial | 02:34 |
| holstein | email* | 02:34 |
| _marx_ | sure call for a meeting; so i don't have to do all that video editing | 02:38 |
| _marx_ | you | 02:38 |
| holstein | ? | 02:38 |
| holstein | i dont follow | 02:39 |
| holstein | im going to instigate getting a regular monthly meeting going | 02:39 |
| holstein | but, i cant take it on right now | 02:39 |
| holstein | im doing that with ubuntustudio, and i have a bunch of other stuff going on | 02:39 |
| holstein | hopefully by the august or september meeting | 02:40 |
| _marx_ | y call meeting on list | 02:44 |
| holstein | ? | 02:44 |
| _marx_ | it would be in appropriate for me to assign team contact by a d6 | 02:46 |
| _marx_ | we need to have a meeting | 02:46 |
| holstein | d6? | 02:46 |
| holstein | amber is the team contact right? | 02:47 |
| _marx_ | would you please suggest this? | 02:47 |
| _marx_ | me now | 02:47 |
| _marx_ | die 6 one dice | 02:47 |
| _marx_ | never did d-n-d eh | 02:48 |
| holstein | no, i kissed girls ;) | 02:48 |
| holstein | amber is the team contact right? | 02:48 |
| holstein | and we have admins that can edit that right? | 02:48 |
| _marx_ | on which site? | 02:49 |
| holstein | OK | 02:49 |
| holstein | im not sure what you are or were talking about | 02:49 |
| holstein | SO | 02:49 |
| holstein | AFAIK | 02:49 |
| _marx_ | google it on a no cookie system | 02:49 |
| holstein | there a launchpad account or team page or something | 02:50 |
| holstein | and you are/were the admin | 02:50 |
| _marx_ | let me get some links | 02:50 |
| holstein | _marx_: no need for links | 02:50 |
| holstein | i dont know how to even take that in right now | 02:50 |
| holstein | its overload... | 02:50 |
| _marx_ | k | 02:50 |
| holstein | just tell me if im *way* off base | 02:50 |
| holstein | theres an LP | 02:50 |
| holstein | you are an admin | 02:50 |
| holstein | you made dan in admin? | 02:50 |
| _marx_ | owner on LP | 02:51 |
| holstein | an* | 02:51 |
| holstein | OK | 02:51 |
| holstein | that owner can edit the team contact? | 02:51 |
| holstein | and amber is the current team contact? | 02:51 |
| _marx_ | there is no LP team contact | 02:51 |
| _marx_ | it is nice | 02:51 |
| holstein | _marx_: has there ever been? | 02:52 |
| _marx_ | yep | 02:52 |
| holstein | whats the point? | 02:52 |
| _marx_ | not sure about LP | 02:52 |
| _marx_ | well there's the wiki | 02:52 |
| holstein | whats the LP team contact do? | 02:52 |
| _marx_ | and the new loco directory thing | 02:52 |
| _marx_ | dude | 02:53 |
| holstein | _marx_: there have been several step up and say they would take it on | 02:53 |
| holstein | i say, give things to amber or daniel or me or whoever else | 02:53 |
| _marx_ | why on earth would i want to resign | 02:53 |
| holstein | and make sure that someone has the rights to edit all that | 02:53 |
| holstein | someone or some persons ideally | 02:53 |
| holstein | _marx_: if you call a meeting about it, it will be you and me, maybe dan and amber if she can make it.. BugeyeD and coxn might pop in | 02:54 |
| holstein | i dont think anyone is going to lose any sleep over it | 02:54 |
| _marx_ | right so IRC meetings are.... | 02:55 |
| holstein | but, *if* you need to assign the task, i say just pick one of the folks that have already said it was cool | 02:55 |
| holstein | OR, just make sure several folks have the rights to assign that later | 02:55 |
| holstein | but, if you call a meeting, i'll be there | 02:56 |
| _marx_ | gracefully abiding by code of contact. | 03:03 |
| * coxn pops in | 03:03 | |
| coxn | ping me if you need me. :) | 03:04 |
| holstein | conduct? | 03:04 |
| _marx_ | not just disappear like the last guy | 03:04 |
| holstein | right... but, that is correct right? | 03:05 |
| holstein | some person or persons has admin rights to edit the LP contact? | 03:05 |
| _marx_ | oh geez, yes | 03:05 |
| _marx_ | oh wait | 03:05 |
| _marx_ | no | 03:05 |
| holstein | but you do? | 03:05 |
| _marx_ | as owner yes | 03:06 |
| holstein | LP owner? | 03:06 |
| _marx_ | there are several team contacts | 03:06 |
| _marx_ | i am | 03:06 |
| _marx_ | lp owner | 03:06 |
| holstein | there needs to be another owner if you are going to be MIA | 03:06 |
| holstein | owners prefferably | 03:07 |
| _marx_ | i'm MIA so | 03:07 |
| _marx_ | well i'm MIA | 03:07 |
| holstein | im just saying, the LP contact is not the issue | 03:07 |
| holstein | the issue is the LP owner | 03:07 |
| _marx_ | check those pages | 03:07 |
| holstein | then, some person or persons can edit these as needed | 03:08 |
| holstein | can there be more than one LP owner? | 03:08 |
| _marx_ | don't know | 03:08 |
| holstein | we just need to make sure one or more of the volunteers have admin access | 03:11 |
| holstein | then, they can deal with it next meeting, or whenever | 03:11 |
| holstein | _marx_: OK | 03:19 |
| holstein | so heres a way to get multiple owners | 03:19 |
| _marx_ | yes | 03:19 |
| holstein | 23:19 < pleia2> you can create a ~ubuntu-northcarolina-ower team and add people you want to be owners to that | 03:19 |
| holstein | then, anyone in the owner team has owner rights | 03:19 |
| _marx_ | but i have no problem just turning over ownership | 03:20 |
| holstein | which is the way i think it should go, so there are more than one owner | 03:20 |
| holstein | _marx_: sure... one of us can tweak this out at some point | 03:20 |
| holstein | if you just want to hand it off, i say amber or daniel... someone that knows LP, and is around | 03:21 |
| holstein | BugeyeD is around too though | 03:21 |
| _marx_ | well we have been tweaking for a while now | 03:21 |
| holstein | coxn | 03:21 |
| _marx_ | cron | 03:25 |
| _marx_ | i've done what i've done or not done; now it is time for someone else | 03:26 |
| _marx_ | to do or not do | 03:27 |
| holstein | you've done great | 03:27 |
| holstein | i say, set up that owner group, and when you come back, you're still in it :) | 03:28 |
| _marx_ | not going anywhere | 03:28 |
| holstein | yeah? | 03:29 |
| _marx_ | no | 03:29 |
| holstein | then what are we talking about? | 03:29 |
| _marx_ | got you going eh? | 03:29 |
| _marx_ | motivation | 03:29 |
| holstein | im not following | 03:29 |
| _marx_ | i'm a month behind i've been two months behind | 03:30 |
| _marx_ | passing it on | 03:30 |
| _marx_ | yes money wise i'm in dire straights | 03:32 |
| _marx_ | crude method; piss off a team | 03:33 |
| _marx_ | not my favorite method | 03:33 |
| _marx_ | oh | 03:34 |
| holstein | so, what are you saying? | 03:36 |
| holstein | you are not needing to leave? | 03:37 |
| holstein | were you just messing around? | 03:37 |
| _marx_ | no | 03:38 |
| _marx_ | ur lagging | 03:39 |
| holstein | yeah, its hard to keep up | 03:39 |
| holstein | 23:31 < _marx_> not going anywhere | 03:39 |
| _marx_ | right | 03:39 |
| _marx_ | another owner if lp | 03:40 |
| _marx_ | of | 03:40 |
| holstein | whatever... you need to get *someone* all the admin privs you have | 03:42 |
| _marx_ | give | 03:42 |
| _marx_ | right | 03:42 |
| holstein | let me know if i can help facilitate | 03:42 |
| _marx_ | spell checking with irssi is working well | 03:43 |
| _marx_ | holstein: yes i think a call for a meeting is in order | 03:46 |
| holstein | like i said, ill be there | 03:46 |
| _marx_ | i'll compose some in the am | 03:47 |
| holstein | so, this meeting is for who is taking over as LP owner? | 03:48 |
| holstein | or about implementing and owner team? | 03:49 |
| holstein | or just about the LP contact? | 03:49 |
| _marx_ | three and counting | 03:49 |
| _marx_ | LD contact too | 03:49 |
| holstein | who has had those postitions though? | 03:50 |
| holstein | seems like we really just need to get your positions filled | 03:50 |
| holstein | and the other stuff can remaing as-is | 03:50 |
| _marx_ | okay let me go get another beer | 03:50 |
| holstein | yeah... that'll help ;) | 03:50 |
| _marx_ | well | 03:51 |
| holstein | i mean, if we dont have an LP contact, we dont ugrently need one | 03:51 |
| _marx_ | there's this loco thing | 03:51 |
| holstein | you dont need to urgently appoint people before you go, or whatever you are doing | 03:51 |
| holstein | you just need to make admins | 03:51 |
| _marx_ | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-northcarolina | 03:55 |
| _marx_ | i am trying to not to urgently appoint people. | 03:56 |
| holstein | what im getting at is | 03:56 |
| holstein | if you say 'we need a meeting about an LP contact' | 03:57 |
| _marx_ | stick your foot in a yellow jacket nest and see what comes up. | 03:57 |
| holstein | i say, if we havent had one, then dont sweat it | 03:57 |
| holstein | just make sure someone has rights to fix that later | 03:57 |
| _marx_ | i'll leave it alone | 04:00 |
| holstein | so, im not clear on what this is | 04:00 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-northcarolina | 04:00 |
| holstein | i dont see any admin options anywheres | 04:00 |
| holstein | i see 'join this team' | 04:01 |
| _marx_ | login | 04:01 |
| holstein | not sure what thats about | 04:01 |
| _marx_ | new thing | 04:01 |
| holstein | let me re-login | 04:01 |
| holstein | OK... im in | 04:03 |
| holstein | looks like i have permission to set a contact there | 04:03 |
| _marx_ | do it | 04:03 |
| _marx_ | who did you pick? | 04:04 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-northcarolina | 04:05 |
| holstein | thats the LoCo contact | 04:06 |
| holstein | so, are you talking about Email: | 04:07 |
| holstein | No contact email Set contact address | 04:07 |
| holstein | at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-northcarolina ?? | 04:07 |
| holstein | we could set that to the mailing list addy | 04:07 |
| holstein | but i think it goes to each of us individually now | 04:07 |
| _marx_ | the lp one has never had a contact | 04:08 |
| _marx_ | i | 04:08 |
| holstein | right, i dont think it needs one | 04:08 |
| holstein | if thats what you are referring to | 04:08 |
| holstein | the email contact | 04:08 |
| holstein | ? | 04:08 |
| holstein | rigth? | 04:08 |
| holstein | right* | 04:08 |
| _marx_ | i'm findng 3 places | 04:08 |
| _marx_ | one on the wiki | 04:09 |
| _marx_ | one on loco | 04:09 |
| _marx_ | and none on lp | 04:09 |
| holstein | ok, so no LP contact needed then right? | 04:09 |
| holstein | i just edited the loco one correct? | 04:10 |
| * holstein looking at the wiki | 04:10 | |
| _marx_ | i'm not sure how that carries over to loco | 04:10 |
| holstein | but any of us can edit the wiki | 04:10 |
| _marx_ | and the new loco | 04:10 |
| _marx_ | yeah i know | 04:11 |
| _marx_ | i just need to go make some sawdust | 04:11 |
| _marx_ | wtf | 04:12 |
| _marx_ | i'll just stop posting to the team list about this and go away; no that is not appropriate | 04:13 |
| _marx_ | if i'm here i'm here if not do what i did | 04:14 |
| _marx_ | hum | 13:16 |
| _marx_ | seems i need to be really crystal clear | 13:17 |
| internalkernel | _marx_: I thought we just dealt with lp the other day... what did I miss? What didn't we do? | 14:01 |
| internalkernel | you added me as an admin, I see your listed as the owner - did you want to change that over to me as well? | 14:02 |
| internalkernel | the team contact on the LP page goes to the mailing list... I don't see a problem with that, do you? | 14:02 |
| _marx_ | let's settle that tomorrow by 3:00 pm | 14:03 |
| internalkernel | awesome | 14:03 |
| _marx_ | need to comply w/coc | 14:03 |
| _marx_ | code of conduct | 14:03 |
| _marx_ | have a meeting | 14:03 |
| _marx_ | no one shows, and then just do it | 14:04 |
| _marx_ | heh | 14:04 |
| _marx_ | i do have the perspective of a long time linux and ubuntu user | 14:05 |
| _marx_ | this channel is just one example | 14:06 |
| _marx_ | regulars have come and gone over the years | 14:06 |
| internalkernel | _marx_: why didn't you make me the LP owner? | 15:08 |
| holstein | internalkernel: i think a good goal is having multiple owners | 15:35 |
| internalkernel | that would be ideal... however I'd like to just get it changed at this point... | 15:35 |
| holstein | apparently, the way ubuntu-women is set up, theres an ubuntu-women owner team | 15:35 |
| holstein | and that team owns the LP account | 15:35 |
| holstein | well, i dont understand why you or amber or one of the other folks who stepped up when _marx_ said he needed to hand over ownership in the first place are not owners by now | 15:36 |
| holstein | im unclear as to what the issue is | 15:37 |
| holstein | and that new owner will have permission to work with the contact if needed | 15:37 |
| internalkernel | I have permission to work with the contact, you don't have to be owner to do that - only admin... | 15:37 |
| internalkernel | but the contact on the lp page goes to the team mailing list... | 15:38 |
| holstein | internalkernel: i think you saw it the same as me then | 15:38 |
| internalkernel | I don't see an issue with that, do you? | 15:38 |
| holstein | and i think thats actually preffered | 15:38 |
| internalkernel | likewise... so ownership of the loco is the issue now. | 15:38 |
| holstein | right, thats the only issue | 15:38 |
| internalkernel | and again... why didn't it happen when I was made an admin? | 15:39 |
| holstein | but, i thought thats what you were getting the other day | 15:39 |
| internalkernel | draggin it on for the purpose of draggin it on | 15:39 |
| internalkernel | I did too | 15:39 |
| holstein | i suppose | 15:39 |
| internalkernel | and then... we got an email today.. about a meeting and a need for an LP owner?? | 15:39 |
| internalkernel | totally baffled... | 15:39 |
| holstein | well, that has democratic intentions i assume | 15:40 |
| holstein | BUT, the 'prediction' about not getting our membership renewed? | 15:40 |
| holstein | thats unecessary | 15:40 |
| internalkernel | there's lots that's unnecesary... | 15:41 |
| internalkernel | puff puff pass, that's all Im going to say... | 15:42 |
| holstein | lol | 15:42 |
| holstein | so, what is the worst case scenario? | 15:42 |
| holstein | _marx_ leaves and doesnt hand over admin ownership | 15:43 |
| internalkernel | We get someone else to do it... and it takes longer | 15:43 |
| holstein | we can request that from someone though right? | 15:43 |
| holstein | if needed? | 15:43 |
| holstein | from skaet? | 15:43 |
| internalkernel | right, someone up there in the buntu cloud will be able to do it... | 15:43 |
| _marx_ | puff, puff, pass that _is funny | 16:16 |
| * _marx_ feels better now | 16:19 | |
| _marx_ | yall be good now | 16:19 |
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