[02:29] <_marx_> hum
[02:29] <holstein> _marx_: you calling a meeting?
[02:30] <_marx_> sure, email it
[02:31] <holstein> email what?
[02:32] <_marx_> oh sorry i was thinking of another conversation
[02:34] <holstein> i was responding to the emial
[02:34] <holstein> email*
[02:38] <_marx_> sure call for a meeting; so i don't have to do all that video editing
[02:38] <_marx_> you
[02:38] <holstein> ?
[02:39] <holstein> i dont follow
[02:39] <holstein> im going to instigate getting a regular monthly meeting going
[02:39] <holstein> but, i cant take it on right now
[02:39] <holstein> im doing that with ubuntustudio, and i have a bunch of other stuff going on
[02:40] <holstein> hopefully by the august or september meeting
[02:44] <_marx_> y call meeting on list
[02:44] <holstein> ?
[02:46] <_marx_> it would be in appropriate for me to assign team contact by a d6
[02:46] <_marx_> we need to have a meeting
[02:46] <holstein> d6?
[02:47] <holstein> amber is the team contact right?
[02:47] <_marx_> would you please suggest this?
[02:47] <_marx_> me now
[02:47] <_marx_> die 6 one dice
[02:48] <_marx_> never did d-n-d eh
[02:48] <holstein> no, i kissed girls ;)
[02:48] <holstein> amber is the team contact right?
[02:48] <holstein> and we have admins that can edit that right?
[02:49] <_marx_> on which site?
[02:49] <holstein> OK
[02:49] <holstein> im not sure what you are or were talking about
[02:49] <holstein> SO
[02:49] <holstein> AFAIK
[02:49] <_marx_> google it on a no cookie system
[02:50] <holstein> there a launchpad account or team page or something
[02:50] <holstein> and you are/were the admin
[02:50] <_marx_> let me get some links
[02:50] <holstein> _marx_: no need for links
[02:50] <holstein> i dont know how to even take that in right now
[02:50] <holstein> its overload...
[02:50] <_marx_> k
[02:50] <holstein> just tell me if im *way* off base
[02:50] <holstein> theres an LP
[02:50] <holstein> you are an admin
[02:50] <holstein> you made dan in admin?
[02:51] <_marx_> owner on LP
[02:51] <holstein> an*
[02:51] <holstein> OK
[02:51] <holstein> that owner can edit the team contact?
[02:51] <holstein> and amber is the current team contact?
[02:51] <_marx_> there is no LP team contact
[02:51] <_marx_> it is nice
[02:52] <holstein> _marx_: has there ever been?
[02:52] <_marx_> yep
[02:52] <holstein> whats the point?
[02:52] <_marx_> not sure about LP
[02:52] <_marx_> well there's the wiki
[02:52] <holstein> whats the LP team contact do?
[02:52] <_marx_> and the new loco directory thing
[02:53] <_marx_> dude
[02:53] <holstein> _marx_: there have been several step up and say they would take it on
[02:53] <holstein> i say, give things to amber or daniel or me or whoever else
[02:53] <_marx_> why on earth would i want to resign
[02:53] <holstein> and make sure that someone has the rights to edit all that
[02:53] <holstein> someone or some persons ideally
[02:54] <holstein> _marx_: if you call a meeting about it, it will be you and me, maybe dan and amber if she can make it.. BugeyeD and coxn might pop in
[02:54] <holstein> i dont think anyone is going to lose any sleep over it
[02:55] <_marx_> right so IRC meetings are....
[02:55] <holstein> but, *if* you need to assign the task, i say just pick one of the folks that have already said it was cool
[02:55] <holstein> OR, just make sure several folks have the rights to assign that later
[02:56] <holstein> but, if you call a meeting, i'll be there
[03:03] <_marx_> gracefully abiding by code of contact.
[03:03]  * coxn pops in
[03:04] <coxn> ping me if you need me. :)
[03:04] <holstein> conduct?
[03:04] <_marx_> not just disappear like the last guy
[03:05] <holstein> right... but, that is correct right?
[03:05] <holstein> some person or persons has admin rights to edit the LP contact?
[03:05] <_marx_> oh geez, yes
[03:05] <_marx_> oh wait
[03:05] <_marx_> no
[03:05] <holstein> but you do?
[03:06] <_marx_> as owner yes
[03:06] <holstein> LP owner?
[03:06] <_marx_> there are several team contacts
[03:06] <_marx_> i am
[03:06] <_marx_> lp owner
[03:06] <holstein> there needs to be another owner if you are going to be MIA
[03:07] <holstein> owners prefferably
[03:07] <_marx_> i'm MIA so
[03:07] <_marx_> well i'm MIA
[03:07] <holstein> im just saying, the LP contact is not the issue
[03:07] <holstein> the issue is the LP owner
[03:07] <_marx_> check those pages
[03:08] <holstein> then, some person or persons can edit these as needed
[03:08] <holstein> can there be more than one LP owner?
[03:08] <_marx_> don't know
[03:11] <holstein> we just need to make sure one or more of the volunteers have admin access
[03:11] <holstein> then, they can deal with it next meeting, or whenever
[03:19] <holstein> _marx_: OK
[03:19] <holstein> so heres a way to get multiple owners
[03:19] <_marx_> yes
[03:19] <holstein> 23:19 < pleia2> you can create a ~ubuntu-northcarolina-ower team and add people you want to be owners to that
[03:19] <holstein> then, anyone in the owner team has owner rights
[03:20] <_marx_> but i have no problem just turning over ownership
[03:20] <holstein> which is the way i think it should go, so there are more than one owner
[03:20] <holstein> _marx_: sure... one of us can tweak this out at some point
[03:21] <holstein> if you just want to hand it off, i say amber or daniel... someone that knows LP, and is around
[03:21] <holstein> BugeyeD is around too though
[03:21] <_marx_> well we have been tweaking for a while now
[03:21] <holstein> coxn
[03:25] <_marx_> cron
[03:26] <_marx_> i've done what i've done or not done; now it is time for someone else
[03:27] <_marx_> to do or not do
[03:27] <holstein> you've done great
[03:28] <holstein> i say, set up that owner group, and when you come back, you're still in it :)
[03:28] <_marx_> not going anywhere
[03:29] <holstein> yeah?
[03:29] <_marx_> no
[03:29] <holstein> then what are we talking about?
[03:29] <_marx_> got you going eh?
[03:29] <_marx_> motivation
[03:29] <holstein> im not following
[03:30] <_marx_> i'm a month behind i've been two months behind
[03:30] <_marx_> passing it on
[03:32] <_marx_> yes money wise i'm in dire straights
[03:33] <_marx_> crude method; piss off a team
[03:33] <_marx_> not my favorite method
[03:34] <_marx_> oh
[03:36] <holstein> so, what are you saying?
[03:37] <holstein> you are not needing to leave?
[03:37] <holstein> were you just messing around?
[03:38] <_marx_> no
[03:39] <_marx_> ur lagging
[03:39] <holstein> yeah, its hard to keep up
[03:39] <holstein> 23:31 < _marx_> not going anywhere
[03:39] <_marx_> right
[03:40] <_marx_> another owner if lp
[03:40] <_marx_> of
[03:42] <holstein> whatever... you need to get *someone* all the admin privs you have
[03:42] <_marx_> give
[03:42] <_marx_> right
[03:42] <holstein> let me know if i can help facilitate
[03:43] <_marx_> spell checking with irssi is working well
[03:46] <_marx_> holstein: yes i think a call for a meeting is in order
[03:46] <holstein> like i said, ill be there
[03:47] <_marx_> i'll compose some in the am
[03:48] <holstein> so, this meeting is for who is taking over as LP owner?
[03:49] <holstein> or about implementing and owner team?
[03:49] <holstein> or just about the LP contact?
[03:49] <_marx_> three and counting
[03:49] <_marx_> LD contact too
[03:50] <holstein> who has had those postitions though?
[03:50] <holstein> seems like we really just need to get your positions filled
[03:50] <holstein> and the other stuff can remaing as-is
[03:50] <_marx_> okay let me go get another beer
[03:50] <holstein> yeah... that'll help ;)
[03:51] <_marx_> well
[03:51] <holstein> i mean, if we dont have an LP contact, we dont ugrently need one
[03:51] <_marx_> there's this loco thing
[03:51] <holstein> you dont need to urgently appoint people before you go, or whatever you are doing
[03:51] <holstein> you just need to make admins
[03:55] <_marx_> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-northcarolina
[03:56] <_marx_> i am trying to not to urgently appoint people.
[03:56] <holstein> what im getting at is
[03:57] <holstein> if you say 'we need a meeting about an LP contact'
[03:57] <_marx_> stick your foot in a yellow jacket nest and see what comes up.
[03:57] <holstein> i say, if we havent had one, then dont sweat it
[03:57] <holstein> just make sure someone has rights to fix that later
[04:00] <_marx_> i'll leave it alone
[04:00] <holstein> so, im not clear on what this is
[04:00] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-northcarolina
[04:00] <holstein> i dont see any admin options anywheres
[04:01] <holstein> i see 'join this team'
[04:01] <_marx_> login
[04:01] <holstein> not sure what thats about
[04:01] <_marx_> new thing
[04:01] <holstein> let me re-login
[04:03] <holstein> OK... im in
[04:03] <holstein> looks like i have permission to set a contact there
[04:03] <_marx_> do it
[04:04] <_marx_> who did you pick?
[04:05] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-northcarolina
[04:06] <holstein> thats the LoCo contact
[04:07] <holstein> so, are you talking about Email:
[04:07] <holstein> No contact email Set contact address
[04:07] <holstein> at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-northcarolina ??
[04:07] <holstein> we could set that to the mailing list addy
[04:07] <holstein> but i think it goes to each of us individually now
[04:08] <_marx_> the lp one has never had a contact
[04:08] <_marx_> i
[04:08] <holstein> right, i dont think it needs one
[04:08] <holstein> if thats what you are referring to
[04:08] <holstein> the email contact
[04:08] <holstein> ?
[04:08] <holstein> rigth?
[04:08] <holstein> right*
[04:08] <_marx_> i'm findng 3 places
[04:09] <_marx_> one on the wiki
[04:09] <_marx_> one on loco
[04:09] <_marx_> and none on lp
[04:09] <holstein> ok, so no LP contact needed then right?
[04:10] <holstein> i just edited the loco one correct?
[04:10]  * holstein looking at the wiki
[04:10] <_marx_> i'm not sure how that carries over to loco
[04:10] <holstein> but any of us can edit the wiki
[04:10] <_marx_> and the new loco
[04:11] <_marx_> yeah i know
[04:11] <_marx_> i just need to go make some sawdust
[04:12] <_marx_> wtf
[04:13] <_marx_> i'll just stop posting to the team list about this and go away; no that is not appropriate
[04:14] <_marx_> if i'm here i'm here if not do what i did
[13:16] <_marx_> hum
[13:17] <_marx_> seems i need to be really crystal clear
[14:01] <internalkernel> _marx_: I thought we just dealt with lp the other day... what did I miss? What didn't we do?
[14:02] <internalkernel> you added me as an admin, I see your listed as the owner - did you want to change that over to me as well?
[14:02] <internalkernel> the team contact on the LP page goes to the mailing list... I don't see a problem with that, do you?
[14:03] <_marx_> let's settle that tomorrow by 3:00 pm
[14:03] <internalkernel> awesome
[14:03] <_marx_> need to comply w/coc
[14:03] <_marx_> code of conduct
[14:03] <_marx_> have a meeting
[14:04] <_marx_> no one shows, and then just do it
[14:04] <_marx_> heh
[14:05] <_marx_> i do have the perspective of a long time linux and ubuntu user
[14:06] <_marx_> this channel is just one example
[14:06] <_marx_> regulars have come and gone over the years
[15:08] <internalkernel> _marx_: why didn't you make me the LP owner?
[15:35] <holstein> internalkernel: i think a good goal is having multiple owners
[15:35] <internalkernel> that would be ideal... however I'd like to just get it changed at this point...
[15:35] <holstein> apparently, the way ubuntu-women is set up, theres an ubuntu-women owner team
[15:35] <holstein> and that team owns the LP account
[15:36] <holstein> well, i dont understand why you or amber or one of the other folks who stepped up when _marx_ said he needed to hand over ownership in the first place are not owners by now
[15:37] <holstein> im unclear as to what the issue is
[15:37] <holstein> and that new owner will have permission to work with the contact if needed
[15:37] <internalkernel> I have permission to work with the contact, you don't have to be owner to do that - only admin...
[15:38] <internalkernel> but the contact on the lp page goes to the team mailing list...
[15:38] <holstein> internalkernel: i think you saw it the same as me then
[15:38] <internalkernel> I don't see an issue with that, do you?
[15:38] <holstein> and i think thats actually preffered
[15:38] <internalkernel> likewise... so ownership of the loco is the issue now.
[15:38] <holstein> right, thats the only issue
[15:39] <internalkernel> and again... why didn't it happen when I was made an admin?
[15:39] <holstein> but, i thought thats what you were getting the other day
[15:39] <internalkernel> draggin it on for the purpose of draggin it on
[15:39] <internalkernel> I did too
[15:39] <holstein> i suppose
[15:39] <internalkernel> and then... we got an email today.. about a meeting and a need for an LP owner??
[15:39] <internalkernel> totally baffled...
[15:40] <holstein> well, that has democratic intentions i assume
[15:40] <holstein> BUT, the 'prediction' about not getting our membership renewed?
[15:40] <holstein> thats unecessary
[15:41] <internalkernel> there's lots that's unnecesary...
[15:42] <internalkernel> puff puff pass, that's all Im going to say...
[15:42] <holstein> lol
[15:42] <holstein> so, what is the worst case scenario?
[15:43] <holstein> _marx_ leaves and doesnt hand over admin ownership
[15:43] <internalkernel> We get someone else to do it... and it takes longer
[15:43] <holstein> we can request that from someone though right?
[15:43] <holstein> if needed?
[15:43] <holstein> from skaet?
[15:43] <internalkernel> right, someone up there in the buntu cloud will be able to do it...
[16:16] <_marx_> puff, puff, pass that _is funny
[16:19]  * _marx_ feels better now
[16:19] <_marx_> yall be good now