[07:46] <nuvolari> o/ mornings
[08:40] <kbmonkey> o/ morning
[08:41] <Cantide> hi ^^;
[08:41] <kbmonkey> hi Cantide! and nuvolari 
[08:42] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, did you see kilos had fixed langjan's apt problem? he is becoming the local guru XD
[08:43] <kbmonkey> today i need to sort out that lpi learning mailing list, and go through more of that study guide - i fell behind! oops :P
[08:51] <kbmonkey> bbl, shutting down all distractions for now ;D
[09:12] <Kilos> morning all
[09:14] <kodez> morning oom kilos
[09:14] <Kilos> lo kodez 
[09:14] <kodez> how are you today?
[09:15] <Kilos> good ty and you
[09:15] <kodez> i'm better than yesterday and the cold is going
[09:29] <Kilos> lol
[09:33] <Kilos> cold not gone yet
[09:33] <Kilos> i think still bigger cold coming
[09:33] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[09:33]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:34] <kodez> i had a cold and am better than now
[09:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:44] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[09:44] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[09:45] <Kilos> lol oh you had a cold
[09:45] <Kilos> haha
[09:45] <Kilos> glad you feeling better
[09:45] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos, kb
[09:45] <nuvolari> oh
[09:45] <nuvolari> he's not here
[09:45] <Kilos> dag nuvolari 
[09:45] <Kilos> kb?
[09:46] <Kilos> lol
[09:46] <Kilos> it didnt say kbtab
[09:46] <nuvolari> ye lol
[09:46] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit met oom vandag?
[09:46] <nuvolari> *hoe
[09:46] <nuvolari> argh
[09:46] <nuvolari> log
[09:47] <nuvolari> vodacom :(
[09:47] <nuvolari> ek tik al 2 sinne vooruit
[09:47] <nuvolari> *lag
[09:47] <nuvolari> Kilos: ek sien apie sê oom raak ons local guru hierso!
[09:49] <Kilos> hy droom
[09:50] <Kilos> maar dit was soos probeer om n kar se wiel ruil terwyl dit in die pad af hol
[09:50] <nuvolari> lol
[09:51] <nuvolari> ek hop hier soos ek lag oom
[09:51] <Kilos> eks seker dit was daai update manager wat nie iets kon doen nie maar het aanhou probeer die hele tyd en al die cli goed geblok
[09:51] <nuvolari> die beste uitdrukking wat ek in 'n lang tyd gehoor het
[09:51] <Kilos> lmga
[09:52] <nuvolari> Kilos: of hy droom of nie, oom het die fix gekry! no questions asked.
[09:52] <Kilos> en die langjan het opgekom met n nuwe naam "vir my" vir pc's
[09:52] <Kilos> neukenaars
[09:53] <nuvolari> lol
[09:53] <nuvolari> laat my dink aan die grappie van die seuntjie wat sê sy pa is 'n neukeraar, in die meantime werk hy met rekenaars
[09:53] <Kilos> jy is in n goeie plek vir hierdie winter seun
[09:54] <Kilos> ja
[09:54] <Kilos> en lawyers is prokerowers
[09:55] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[09:55]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:55] <nuvolari> ja nee oom, ek stem! lekker weer hier
[09:56] <nuvolari> koel, maar draaglik
[09:56] <nuvolari> oh my word. dis al 12:00 :(
[09:56] <Kilos> ja die dag is half verby al
[09:57]  * nuvolari wonder waar is die dag heen
[09:57] <nuvolari> yoohoo? 
[09:57] <Kilos> hier is dit 2° in die nag
[09:57] <Squirm> good morning
[09:57] <nuvolari> o/ Squirm 
[09:58] <Kilos> lo Squirm here one of the LPI guys
[09:58]  * Squirm prods nuvolari
[09:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[09:59] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[09:59] <Maaz> Squirm: There isn't a pot on
[09:59] <Kilos> Maaz, thnk you buddy
[09:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Excuse me?
[10:00] <Kilos> grr
[10:00] <Kilos> Maaz, thank you buddy
[10:00] <Kilos> uh oh
[10:00] <Maaz> sure thing, Kilos
[10:00] <Squirm> Kilos: I dont think you're his buddy :/
[10:00] <Kilos> lol yeah looks like
[10:02] <Kilos> Maaz, botsnack
[10:02]  * Maaz munches
[10:03] <Squirm> lol
[10:10] <Kilos> yay kbmonkey has gone to google
[10:10] <Kilos> that other mail place was a prob
[10:37] <nuvolari> o.O
[10:37] <nuvolari> what did I do?
[10:37] <Kilos> what?
[10:38] <nuvolari> Squirm prodding me
[10:38] <Kilos> lol
[10:38]  * Squirm whistles innocently
[10:38] <Kilos> hehe
[10:38] <Kilos> nuvolari, tell Squirm about your LPI course
[10:43] <Kilos> dunno where you are going to find the time though
[10:48] <nuvolari> Maaz: lpi.link is http://groups.google.com/group/linux-studies
[10:48] <Maaz> nuvolari: Got it
[10:49] <nuvolari> Squirm: ^^
[10:50] <Squirm> ok
[10:50] <Squirm> what am I looking at?
[10:51] <nuvolari> Squirm: not much info yet
[10:51] <nuvolari> but we're working on getting a study group going
[10:52] <Squirm> cool
[10:53] <Squirm> may I join in?
[10:53] <Squirm> I should get ontop of this RHSA thing I want to do
[10:53] <nuvolari> Squirm: the more the merrier
[10:53] <Squirm> buy myself an RHSA book or something
[10:54] <nuvolari> Squirm: why not start whith the SPI stuff?
[10:54] <nuvolari> er, LPI
[10:56] <Squirm> thinking of doing that too
[10:56] <nuvolari> Squirm: see the about setion
[10:56] <nuvolari> *section
[10:57] <nuvolari> argh 
[10:57] <Squirm> You are now a member of Linux Studies.
[10:57] <nuvolari> my connection is killing me
[11:25] <Kilos> someone needs to convince telkom and mtn and voda to give cheap packages to the pay as you go peeps. not only specials for contract peeps
[11:26] <Cantide> Kilos, let's protest
[11:28] <Kilos> i would Cantide but you need to get to thier forums or something and those sights kill data with all the moving picks and adds
[11:29] <Cantide> and flash
[11:29] <Cantide> and needless stuff you don't actually want to see / spend data on
[11:29] <Cantide> yeah :<
[11:29] <Cantide> they are smart :<
[11:29] <Kilos> yeah maybe if one can get their CEO's mail addresses then everyone can mail in complaints
[11:30] <Cantide> create a bot net to pleasantly email them :)
[11:30] <Cantide> yeah, inet does suck here :<
[11:30] <Cantide> should get better with WACS, and if we ever get LLU, then yeah, it'll be awesome
[11:31] <Kilos> but its actually stupid on their part because there are less peeps on contract so they are actually losing
[11:35] <Cantide> perhaps they're trying to lure more people into contracts
[11:53] <Kilos> could be . the swines
[18:18] <Kilos> naand almal
[18:18] <Kilos> hiya english peeps
[18:18] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:18]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:18] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee for all
[18:18] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already
[18:22] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:22] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[18:22] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:25] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in pretoria south africa
[18:25] <Maaz> Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:25] <Kilos> twit bot
[18:26] <Kilos> where did he get that from
[18:27] <Kilos> Maaz, weather in tswane south africa
[18:27] <Maaz> Kilos: City not found
[18:27] <Kilos> Maaz, where is pretoria south africa
[18:27] <Maaz> Kilos: Not a clue, sorry
[18:27] <Kilos> goodness me
[18:28] <Kilos> Maaz, are you well?
[18:28] <Maaz> Kilos: *blink*
[18:30] <Kilos> methinks maaz needs to rub sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:10] <Symmetria> *HRM*
[19:10] <Symmetria> everyone cross your fingers 
[19:10] <Symmetria> seacom could quite possibly die in 50 minuets time :P
[19:10] <Symmetria> for how long I don't know
[19:11] <Symmetria> (in theory it shouldnt be more than 5 minutes, in practice, god only knows)
[19:11] <Kilos> whats the prob Symmetria 
[19:12] <Symmetria> they are switching from SEMEWE-4 cable system to TE North cable system in Egypt 
[19:12] <Symmetria> because the former is going down for 2 weeks due to maintenance
[19:12] <Symmetria> so there will be a switching hit
[19:12] <Symmetria> if they dont screw it up, thats minutes, if they do screw it up, who knows :)
[19:13] <Kilos> ty for letting us know
[19:13] <Symmetria> in the mean time, Neotel's backhaul to the landing station is running at risk at the moment as well since one of their fiber routes is down and they have a single point of failure 
[19:13] <Symmetria> and DFA's backhaul to the landing station is going down for maintenance at midnight :P
[19:13] <Kilos> eish
[19:13] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[19:13] <Symmetria> I.E its a perfect storm of potential screwups :) 
[19:14] <Symmetria> if everything goes according to plan we'll see almost no outage, if everything goes wrong,lol, who knwos
[19:14] <Kilos> dont laugh. vodacom messes up enough
[19:16] <Symmetria> heh vodacom is on that DFA fiber iirc, I dont know how much backup they have 
[19:16] <Symmetria> they may have a backup route via joburg
[19:16] <Symmetria> I know our neotel backup route was switched to the redundant fibers about 30 minutes ago, so we have backup on that for when the DFA stuff goes down
[19:16] <Kilos> eish
[19:20] <Kilos> voda has really ,been sucking lately
[19:21] <Symmetria> heh Im gonna be kinda pissed if we lose access to the landing station tonight considering the vast quantities of money invested in redundancy
[19:24] <Symmetria> heh the full cost of that landing station backhaul was like, 20+ million bux all included 
[19:30] <Kilos> wow
[19:32] <Symmetria> heh, lol, someone in ##networking was asking about stealing ip address space on the internet 
[19:33] <Symmetria> and someone else was like "zomg, you can't do that, not possible"
[19:33] <Symmetria> :P till I gave them a step by step on how its very possible, has happened in the past, and how its accomplished :P
[19:34] <Kilos> work out a way to use broadband without voda eating data then you my hero
[19:54] <Kilos> night all sleep tight