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john_rambodo I need to uninstall the current NVIDIA driver before installing the .run downloaded from their site ?00:05
KM0201anybody around?00:32
stlsaintKM0201: oi00:33
KM0201having sound issues (had to buy a new laptop)00:33
KM0201hang on, getting the device00:34
KM020100:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)00:34
KM0201google doesn't turn up much00:34
stlsaintKM0201: have you turned up alsa?00:38
KM0201stlsaint: turned up alsa? it's maxed out00:39
stlsaintKM0201: open a terminal and type in: alsamixer00:40
KM0201i know that00:40
KM0201its maxed out00:40
stlsaintKM0201: can you view your sound preferences?00:41
KM0201under alsamixer?00:41
KM0201or w/ pavucontrol?00:41
KM0201cuz pavucontrol says "connection failed, connection refused"00:42
stlsaintcan you select a sound device in alsa?00:43
KM0201no00:43
KM0201i only have 1 device00:44
KM0201hm... just on a whim... "pulse audio is not installed".. ?00:44
KM0201i'm thinking that could be a problem.00:44
KM0201lol00:44
KM0201installing now00:44
KM0201brb,00:44
KM0201ok, sound is working now, just not passing through to my headphones01:02
KM0201stlsaint: u still around?01:04
phillwKM0201: (01:43:58) stlsaint: later01:07
KM0201oh, sorry01:07
KM0201myst have been gone for that one01:07
KM0201phillw: any ideas?01:08
phillwhe may have hit the bed!01:08
KM0201yeah.01:08
KM0201phillw: ok, well, if Unit193 or bioterror gets bored, ask them to take a look at my prob, i gotta leave for about 5min01:09
phillwKM0201: you, I would advise the main forum area for the section that deals with it?01:09
KM0201brb01:09
KM0201huh?01:09
KM0201what main forum area?01:09
phillwKM0201: have a read of the areas on http://ubuntuforums.org/ but for sound..... http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334 would be my place to head :)01:12
phillwThe stickies there are pretty darn good :)01:12
KM0201hmm01:21
KM0201man, i've not had sound probs like this in a long time01:53
KM0201i can't even find any references to my device01:53
phillwKM0201: I have not had problems with sound from my 9.04 - so I am not the best to help.02:04
KM0201yeah, i went through alsaconf(i had to do that on my other acer, but hadn't had to since like 8.10)02:04
KM0201and my device isn't listed anywhere in that file02:04
phillwKM0201: is it Lubuntu or generic problem?02:06
KM0201phillw: not sure, i've not tried it w/ Ubuntu02:10
KM0201i suspect its a generic problem02:10
KM0201i just tested my mic w/ skype, works great02:10
KM0201brb02:11
KM0201phillw: where can i download lubuntu 11.1002:39
KM0201Unit193: ?02:50
Unit193KM0201: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-oneiric-alpha1.iso02:57
Unit193KM0201: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt02:58
KM0201tx02:58
KM0201this sound thing is driving me nanners Unit19302:59
KM0201any idas?02:59
Unit193As always, this development release is NOT suitable for production machines!02:59
KM0201yeah, yeah.02:59
KM0201lol02:59
Unit193And A2 should be out soon03:00
Unit193"Sound thing" doesn't exactly help03:00
KM0201oh, i thought maybe you scrolled up03:00
KM020100:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05)03:00
KM0201mic works, sound (when headphones not plugged in) works, sound does not pass through to headphones03:01
KM0201Unit193: http://pastebin.com/CrNW2mq5   there's another output thta may help03:02
KM0201i can't find any reference at all to either of those03:03
Unit193I haven't really had too many sound issues. I also need to go as there will be an early day tomorrow03:06
KM0201ah ok03:07
KM0201best wishes03:07
* phillw can any one please take notice of the topic? 03:36
* phillw we do try!!!!!03:36
Unit193Forget sleep. The get Lubuntu link didn't seem to have a link for 11.10 (It's going to be in  plain sight)03:38
KM0201phillw: hmm, it's kinda hidden up there03:39
KM0201lol03:39
Unit193 /topic will show you and you get it on join03:39
KM0201yeah.03:40
KM0201Unit193: u think downloading the 64bit vversion of Lubuntu, would alleviate my problem?03:40
Unit193KM0201: On the sound. Did you happen to open alsamixer and see a headphone level?03:40
phillwKM0201: that has all our list.03:41
KM0201Unit193: yeah, did that a while ago, it's at 100.03:41
Unit193And it's on 00 ?03:41
Unit193phillw: 11.10 was on there (I did see it at the bottom, but didn't happen to see the download link)03:42
Unit193+?03:42
KM0201Unit193: yes, 00/100  it's maxed out03:42
KM0201just for grins, i tried fedora 15, no sound there either03:43
Unit193And you are sure it works?03:43
KM0201yes03:43
KM0201positive03:43
KM0201if i use headphones under 7, it works fine03:43
KM0201if i unplug my headphones, sound works fine03:44
Unit193I don't really do sound as it always seems to work for me (But older than dirt hardware)03:44
KM0201yeah03:45
KM0201i had a few minor issues w/ sound and ... i think 8.10 (maybe earlier)03:45
cg2916Does Lubuntu 11.10 have any major bugs?05:26
erolfrhello,stupid question:i've installed lubuntu first time,On the Installation i've given my Name "Erik Fröhlich" and Password.Now i can't login,Who is my failure,Wich "User" should i use root and ubuntu don't work07:29
erolfrErik or Erik Fröhlich don't, too07:29
drbongoHi is it possible to make a single click launch desktop icons?12:11
drbongoI am also unable to change the double click delay12:11
drbongois there anyone out there?12:12
AmberJHello15:52
AmberJI think I bumped into a bug on lubuntu 11.0415:52
AmberJWhen I try to open a folder on my DVD drive device, pcmanfm closes (right now there's a VCD in drive)15:53
AmberJVCD = Vide CD15:53
AmberJ*Video15:53
AmberJI tried starting pcmanfm from terminal but it drops me back to console prompt after starting pcmanfm....so, I can't get anything on terminal15:54
Byanso yeah.. installer freezes with new netbook16:06
Byanand so does "try lubuntu without installing"16:07
Byangonna try regular ubuntu now16:07
AmberJByan, Which netbook?16:11
Byanacer ao722 I think16:11
AmberJAnd, when does it freeze (do you get any messages on console)?16:11
Byanhttp://www.amazon.com/Acer-AO722-BZ454-11-6-Inch-Netbook-Espresso/dp/B004UR16ES16:11
Byansome messages that look like ext4 driver complaining, but thats it16:12
stlsainttheres a driver for a filesystem?16:12
Byanit will either freeze when I hit next or it'll freeze at terminal if I do try lubuntu16:13
Byanseems to hardlock, can't get to tty16:13
Byanstlsaint: yes..16:13
AmberJah that's bad16:14
stlsaintByan: aye, we are not thinking in the same context here...nevermind16:17
Byanubuntu hard locks too..16:31
Byanwindows may not even be working..16:31
Byanthis might just be a hardware fail16:31
Byannope.. windows works ok16:36
Byan*sad*16:36
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KM0201\o/oot   got my sound working on my new laptop.17:09
Unit193What did you do"?17:10
KM0201um.. find the link17:11
KM0201http://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/how-to-switch-to-alsa-or-oss-instead-of.html17:11
KM0201strange thing, i used the part under "Update".... and in the window, my options, are still set to Pulse Audio, but obviously something changed, because my sound is flawless17:12
KM0201one other strange thing...17:14
KM0201if I boot 7, and reboot back to Lubuntu, my sound does not work (same behavior as before)..17:14
KM0201if i shut down from WIndows, then power back on to Lubuntu, sound works fine.17:15
KM0201restarting Lubuntu and going back to Lubuntu, causes no issue.17:15
Byanhm17:23
Byancrunchbang works.. but is obviously missing drivers17:36
KM0201Byan: so switch to Lubuntu... it's awesome17:37
Byanlubuntu hard locks on me during installation17:39
KM0201hm.. whats your hardware?17:40
ByanI would be willing to wager that the fact that crunchbang is missing the drivers is the reason it's working17:40
Byanao 72217:40
Byanacer ao72217:40
KM0201hmmm17:40
KM0201is the live cd booting at all?17:41
Byanit gets to the wizard and freezes when I hit next17:41
KM0201cuz just looking at the specs, it has the juice to run Lubuntu quite easily (1ghz, 2gig of ram, 250gig hard drive, radeon 6250)17:41
KM0201i wonder if the radeon is causing you probs17:41
Byan12:13 < Byan> it will either freeze when I hit next or it'll freeze at terminal  if I do try lubuntu17:42
Byan12:13 < Byan> seems to hardlock, can't get to tty17:42
Byanyeah, likely17:42
Byanthats what I was just saying =p17:42
KM0201hmm, and i'm not sure how to run the alternate install from USB17:42
Byanerr, the same way you run the live cd?17:43
Byanis there a way I could disable the ati drivers?17:43
Byanon the live cd17:44
KM0201no, because the Alt. CD, specifically looks for files on the CD, which isn't a USB>17:44
Byanreally? hmm17:44
KM0201yes17:44
KM0201during the install it will try to access /dev/cdrom17:44
Byanthats silly of it17:44
KM0201there's a way to use the alt. cd from the usb.... but i'm not sure how.17:44
Byanyou sure it explicitly does that.. cause I seem to remember people netbooting to alt install17:45
Unit193Doesn't matter as 11.04 doesn't HAVE an alt cd17:45
Unit193Try a mini install and add lubuntu-desktop on it (should run with --no-install-recommends)17:46
KM0201well, this is true..17:46
KM0201doesn't the mini iso though, install a bunch of gnome crap as well though17:46
Byanhttp://lug.mtu.edu/iso/ubuntu/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-alternate-amd64.iso17:46
Unit193As I said, run   sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends17:46
Byanso lubuntu deosn't have an alternate?17:46
KM0201 Byan thats ubuntu, not lubuntu17:47
Byanjust confirming17:47
KM0201Byan: have youc onsidered trying to install Lubuntu 32bit?17:47
KM0201oh wait, you probably have.17:47
ByanI think thats what I was using17:47
ByanI wonder if 64bit would work..17:47
Unit193Byan: It doesn't have one, check the /topic17:48
KM020164bit, as of now, is a community port isn't it?... and frankly, if 32bit doesn't work, it's very unlikely 64bit will.17:48
KM0201i agree w/ Unit193 mini iso, then install lubuntu-desktop no-recommends17:48
KM0201Byan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall17:49
Byanhmmm17:49
Byanminimal works fine from usb, correct?17:49
KM0201Byan: i have no idea17:50
ByanI am going to try crunchbang first I think.17:50
KM0201of course the other option, is to just do an Ubuntu server install, then stick lxde on topp of it17:50
KM0201Byan: do you have linux experience?... if you doon't... crunchbang/debian is gonna likely be a difficult journey17:50
ByanI do17:50
Unit193Byan: It does work with USB. Might as well try #!17:51
ByanI've used crunchbang in the past17:51
hosokahello all17:51
KM0201oh ok.17:52
Byannow.. need a name for this machine..17:52
Unit193Byan: This will go for that too http://xkcd.com/910/17:53
Unit193hosoka: Howdy17:53
hosokaI was not able to find a good support for silverlight on Chromium browser. is there any solution ?17:55
ByanI wish something would remind me to try to think of a name in my idle time before I do this17:55
Unit193hosoka: What are you looking to do with it? There is moonlight, but you can't use it with Netflix17:55
Byanon the other hand.. being able to look at the machine while naming it might be important17:55
hosokaI am using the stable version 12.0.742.112 (90304) Ubuntu 11.04 on Chromium17:55
hosokaUnit193: do I need to install Netflix also ?17:56
Byannetflix does not work with linux. End Of Story.17:56
Unit193hosoka: You don't "install" Netflix17:56
Unit193^^^ Exactly17:56
hosokaas i already installed silverlight but still seeing Mplayer doing just nothing.17:58
hosokaeven if I am using the latest Firefox this silverlight won't work.17:59
Unit193If you installed silverlight, you did it in wine and that won't interact with anything outside of wine17:59
KM0201yup.17:59
hosokano, installing silverlight will return to the moonlight section which I used.18:00
hosokai do not use wine.18:00
KM0201..18:00
hosokashould it not work by default this moonlight with either Chromium or Firefox ?18:00
Unit193Ok, you installed moonlight? Install moonlight-plugin-chromium also18:01
Unit193Or moonlight-plugin-mozilla18:04
hosokathis is the outcome. I am using the website www.uitzendingengemist.nl and there standard it is using silverlight / moonlight. With this the plugin got stuck and then I could use flash and the loading went with any problems. Might be that the plugin of moonlight is getting difficulties.18:15
Byansomehow I fucked up my windows install18:15
Byanmaybe this thing is cursed and should be returned..18:15
bioterror!language | Byan18:15
ubot5Byan: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.18:15
Byanoh, sorry18:15
Byananyone know how to use the recovery partition on an acer by chance?18:17
bioterrorpress F11 or something like that18:18
bioterrorand oh well, I got CD with my Acer ;)18:19
bioterrorI've used it as a bookmark when reading bedtime stories18:19
ByanI got a CD too.. but I don't have a USB cd-rom drive18:20
KM0201Byan: i think you just hit F11, boot the recover, and let it do its thing18:21
KM0201how did you screw up your windows partition.. and if you did, are you sure you didn't also screw up your recovery partition?18:22
ByanI have no idea, and I'm not sure18:22
bioterrorone os per computer, one love ;)18:22
KM0201bioterror: i got a new laptop yesterday, and i'm seriously debating nuking 7.. it's awful.18:23
KM0201then i'll put XP in vbox, so i can sync my zune18:23
Byanthere is no open source zune stuff?18:23
KM0201lol, did you say that w/o laughing?18:24
KM0201the zune is the only thing microsoft has completely, 100%, secured against hackers18:24
Byanreally hmm18:28
Byanis it a new zune?18:28
KM0201no18:29
KM0201zunes are just extremely difficult to crack, there's been lots of tries18:29
bioterrorno rockbox for zune :D18:31
Byangood to know..18:31
KM0201negative (at least to my knowledge)18:31
Byannever buying a zune18:31
Byanipod 5g's are better sounding anyway18:31
KM0201Byan: they are actually nice players, zune marketplace sucks (kinda like itunes).. i used to sync it w/ a very small xp partition, but it might be time to do it w/ a virtual install.18:32
Byando you know what kind of dac they have?18:33
Byanlooks like zune 30 actually has a nice DAC18:35
Byanhmm18:35
KM0201i dunno18:35
KM0201i have an 80gig18:36
KM0201it's an older one, but i love it18:36
head_victimI have an iRiver s100. Best money spent ever.18:39
head_victimDrag and drop music, DAB radio, expandable with micro sd cards.18:39
KM0201head_victim: i almost bought one of those18:41
head_victimI was mainly looking for a portable dab radio and its by far the best of those - full colour display when most others have simple text.18:42
Byanwell, son of a bitch, crunchbang won't install20:50
Byanback to lubuntu-minimal I suppose..20:50
KM0201hmm20:51
KM0201whats the prob w/ crunchbang?20:52
Unit193Byan: That stinks. Do you still have a link for the mini install? (Remember family friendly)20:52
Byanoh, sorry. not used to being family friendly on irc I guess20:52
ByanKM0201: not sure, I get a bunch of..20:52
Byan syslog says apt-get install or in-target is already running, so you cannot run either of them again until the other instance finishes20:53
Byanso why is there no alternative install for lubuntu anyway?21:25
Unit193Because we are not yet using the Ubuntu build system (Each one has to be made by hand)21:25
Byanoh21:26
Byangonna have to restart it cause the acrhive mirror is too slow..21:29
Byangah..21:30
Byanhow do I input one by hand21:30
Byanwell shit21:30
Byanwell mdan21:32
Byandamn21:32
Byanhmmmmmm21:32
Unit193Byan: *Each ISO has to be built by one of the devs by hand. You can easily use the mini.iso https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall21:35
ByanI am using mini.iso21:36
Byanit's taking forever to download everything..21:36
ByanI wonder if I can use the alternate iso from ubuntu...21:38
phillwByan: there is an alternate for 10.10 that may be of help. I do not hold the mini-iso's on my server as they can be updated and I would be out of synch with them :/22:07
Byanis there a way to use ubuntu's alternate for 11.04 and remove ubuntu-desktop from it?22:07
phillwyes :)22:08
Byanany hints?22:09
ByanI feel like there used to be a way to change the packages right in the installer22:09
phillwit is discussed at http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde although we do recommend a slightly different command to keep back undeeded stuff... give me a moment to dig out the link22:09
phillwhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu22:11
phillwfound it :D22:11
Byanthats not what I had in mind, but that'll work..22:11
phillwI think you are minded to the use of tasksel, that is not yet available for Lubuntu as we are not yet 'official'.22:13
phillwtasksel can install different flavours (along with a whole host of other jobs). One problem being that it has been dropped as a default part of the core :/22:14
Byanwhen will we be official?22:14
phillw11.10 is the due date for us :)22:14
Byananyway22:18
ByanI have a feeling this won't work anyway22:18
ByanI think that maybe my MBR is locked..22:18
phillwAt that point, we will also be added to the options for Wubi although you can manually choose a downloaded iso already.22:18
phillwthat is something I am not familiar with, if you ask on #ubuntu-begginers someone there may be better placed to help you.22:20
phillwBbeginners*22:21
phillwFFS22:21
phillwbeginners22:21
Kurdistanbioterror: are you awake?22:32
Byanphillw: I chose manual selection of packages and I seem to have something of an ubuntu-minimal install now22:36
Byan=)22:36
phillwif you have got a core system installed, you should be able to follow the mini-iso instructions to put lubuntu on.22:37
Byanyeah, I got it covered from here22:37
KM0201is there a way to make lubuntu have login/shutdown music?23:37
stlsaintKM0201: music as in Miley Cyrus music??? o_O23:38
KM0201lol,23:38
KM0201i was thinking more like how windows plays a tone when it starts up, or Ubuntu has the africans humming when you log in23:38
stlsaintafricans???23:41
KM0201woops23:42
stlsaintKM0201: there are africans humming in ubuntu??23:43
stlsainthow do you know they are african? :P23:43
KM0201stlsaint: you've never heard when ubuntu signs on, the africans humming?23:43
KM0201at least thats what i've been told i tis.23:43
stlsaintagain...how do you know they are africans??23:43
* stlsaint is african-american :P23:43
KM0201i dunno.. i guess cuz shuttleworth is fromm south africa23:43
KM0201i didn't say thats what they were, just saying thats what i was told.23:44
stlsaintsssuuurreeee23:44
KM0201shuttleworth is from south africa, and is white...23:44
Unit193Jungle Drums23:44
KM0201i dunno, doesn't sound like drums ot me, but that's really not the point of my question.23:44
stlsaintKM0201: i know, i just wanted to poke at ya23:46
KM0201Unit193: so any idea?23:48
Unit193KM0201: I have never needed login sounds in Lubuntu (or anything else for that matter...)23:48
KM0201Unit193: lol, well i don't "need" it.. thats for sure...23:49
KM0201and it is definitely unnecessary, i won't deny that23:49
stlsaintKM0201: i know ubuntu can not sure how to in lubuntu23:49
KM0201yeah, Ubuntu it's easy.23:49
KM0201Unit193: did i tell you i fixed my sound prob?23:50
Unit193KM0201: This should give you an idea http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=744&f=823:51
KM0201hmmm, well, not that important, Lubuntu boots so fast, i wouldn't want to slow it down while it loaded a tone23:52

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