[01:46] <cjohnston> Greetings, I installed the daily last night. When I get to the login screen, I click on my username, and then I just get a background and a mouse.. No toolbars, no enter password, nothing.. Any ideas?
[01:47] <cjohnston> If I ctrl alt f1, I get a terminal and can login through that.. I ran update and upgrade to no avail
[02:01] <cjohnston> I just found out that if I click on my username is when it goes blank, but I can select other, type in the same username, password, and then it will log me in
[03:11] <snadge> does someone know off hand if the xorg-edgers ppa version of libva/libva-dev is patched for xvba support?
[09:19] <antihero> Argh, any idea why my gdm says "failed to load session Ubuntu"?
[09:33] <jbicha> antihero: gdm or lightdm?
[09:36] <antihero> jbicha: gdm. Looking at .xession-errors it seems that glx isn't loaded. I've done nvidia-xconfig and now it fails to load X as apparently my nvidia module isn't loaded
[09:36] <antihero> modprobe nvidia fails to find the module
[09:37] <jbicha> yeah, there are problems with the Nvidia drivers
[09:37] <antihero> jbicha: In that they entirely don't work? I'm sure I did have it working at some point.
[09:37] <jbicha> I uninstalled xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and reinstalled nvidia-current to get my wife's computer working
[09:38] <jbicha> but that may not be the "right answer"
[09:38] <jbicha> antihero: yes, the nvidia drivers worked until fairly recently
[09:38] <antihero> Are ubuntu working towards using nouveau then?
[09:39] <antihero> I'll reboot
[09:40] <jbicha> bug 811701 maybe
[09:40] <jbicha> I think nouveau is loading itself too early even if blacklisted by the Nvidia drivers
[09:42] <antihero> jbicha: Aye, I remember a similar problem when a nvidia related module loaded early in order to provide a high res console, and preventend the actual nvidia module loading.
[09:42] <antihero> lol apparently I'm running out of battery (I'm on mains)
[09:43] <antihero> The new settings panel sucks, where is appearance settings etc?
[09:45] <jbicha> antihero: that's a GNOME 3 design decision
[09:45] <jbicha> you can change your background but for other stuff, you may want to install gnome-tweak-tool
[09:46] <antihero> jbicha: That's pretty unfair to all the countless theme creators :\
[11:39] <penguin42> hmm a new unity-panel-services crasher today
[13:08] <penguin42> yofel: How's KDE being for you in +1 ?
[13:09] <yofel> nice, but for you everything that somehow uses kate, or has an embedded texteditor should be broken at least
[13:10] <penguin42> hmm not sure I use any of those
[13:12]  * penguin42 only has this <--- machine on +1 at the moment which is Gnome, and am thinking doing that machine ----> which is mostly KDE
[13:12] <penguin42> unity-panel-services is quite unstable on Gnome at the moment
[14:15] <IdleOne> why is reqonk defaulting to Catalan when the rest of the system is in English?
[14:16] <Ampelbein> IdleOne: LANG=C reqonk ;-)
[14:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:37] <nperry> Does lightdm still use xsession files?
[14:38] <Ampelbein> nperry: it should
[14:39] <Ampelbein> nperry: bug 800192 was fixed
[15:11] <nperry> sudo service lightdm restart
[15:12] <nperry> any cleaner way to exit back to lightdm, I'm in xmonad atm.
[15:16] <penguin42> just quit your  session
[15:46] <jakubo> hi, is there a way to reset volume and input settings in pulse audio?
[15:49] <jakubo> or rather output
[15:55] <BluesKaj> jakubo, both input and out can be turned up full with,  alsamixer -V all
[15:56] <jakubo> and if alsamixer isnt working?
[15:56] <jakubo> pulseaudio seems to be autonomously
[15:56] <penguin42> jakubo: paman
[15:57] <BluesKaj> jakubo, if alsamixer isn't working then your pulseaudio won't either , pulseaudio get's it's signals from alsa afaik
[15:57] <jakubo> how does pulseaudio store its output settings?
[15:58] <jakubo> besides, its alsamixer thats not working not alsa itself
[15:58] <BluesKaj> jakubo, install pavucontrol , that will hold your settings, but alsamixer has to be working
[15:59] <BluesKaj> type alsmixer in the terminal , make sure there's no M in the boxes at the bottom of the ctrls
[16:00] <jakubo> i tried with pavucontrol
[16:00] <BluesKaj> pulse audio is just another layer soundserver , it needs alsa to work
[16:01] <penguin42> one more turtle on the pile
[16:02] <dupondje> What would be the best place to report a bug in Intel Wireless driver ?
[16:03] <jakubo> i asked for it before... ill recapulate
[16:03] <jakubo> sound is there put very quiet although all pulseaudio bars ar up to 120%, alsamixer saays there is no mixer device, it seems that my chip CM-6501 is seen as USB and maybe has some oss mixer which is obviously deprecated, at least the alsa site says so. sound has been working quite well until i changed the output to analog stereo and then back to analog speakers. any idea?
[16:04] <jakubo> i just want to get back to where it was, ... for now, i tried to purge pulseaudio and pulseaudio utils, nothing changed after reinstall
[16:05] <jakubo> and pulseaudio hangs sometimes, but thats a different story
[16:05] <BluesKaj> jakubo, install alsa-utils
[16:06] <jakubo> please DO read my posts
[16:06] <jakubo> im sry, my fault
[16:06] <jakubo> it is installed
[16:06] <BluesKaj> no need to purge , the utils gets taken out with pulseaudio
[16:07] <jakubo> but not the configurations obviously
[16:08] <BluesKaj> then, sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base , them alsa-utils ...your audio driver conf files have stripped with the purge
[16:08] <BluesKaj> err  them=then
[16:09] <jakubo> treid that the last time aswell
[16:11] <jakubo> my driver conf files did "what"?
[16:13] <jakubo> usually pulse audio is treated as a card in alsamixer on its own isnt it?
[16:17] <babilen> Hi all. Would oneiric be the suite that new packages should be based on? Which mirror contains oneiric if that is the case?
[16:22] <bjsnider> jakubo, the userland config files are in hidden directories in your home directory, such as ~/.pulse
[16:23] <jakubo> ok thx
[16:23] <dupondje> Nobody around with a "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230" ?
[16:23] <bjsnider> the guest account doesn't use those files so you might try logging in as guest and testing sound
[16:23] <babilen> Is oneiric available on the mirrors?
[16:23] <bjsnider> if sound works as expected in the guest account it's a userland problem
[16:24] <jakubo> ok ill try
[16:26] <jakubo> is anyone else not able to logout properly?
[16:27] <bjsnider> does _anything_ work on that system
[16:27] <bjsnider> does the frigging mouse pointer still work
[16:27] <jakubo> actually yet, everything else
[16:28] <jakubo> i got the logout problem on my laptop too
[16:28] <jakubo> i guess thats something with light dm
[16:30] <jakubo> its rather quiet on the guest account too
[16:30] <bjsnider> well then it's probbaly an oeniric bug
[16:31] <bjsnider> unless it's bad hardware
[16:31] <bjsnider> but you can test that with an older livecd
[16:31] <bjsnider> oneiric _is_ alpha software at this point
[16:31] <jakubo> you think its bad hardware if i triggered itvis pulseaudio configs instantly?
[16:31] <bjsnider> you don't have any right to demand stability
[16:32] <jakubo> i didnt i just ask for advice how to set things back
[16:32] <bjsnider> well, the easiest way is to clean install natty
[16:32] <bjsnider> you can get that done in 15 minutes
[16:33] <jakubo> not if you are having a software raid set up
[16:33] <jakubo> but i would be too lazy even if i didnt
[16:33] <bjsnider> copy your home directory to an external backup source like a hdd
[16:34] <bjsnider> or you could report a bug and wait for a fix to be released
[16:35] <jakubo> there are bug reports on the net... there have been for years actually...
[16:38] <jakubo> at least for the alsa driver
[16:51] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, is there command to dircect dd to use mulitple cpu cores while copying to iso ..one core is at 20% and the other at 95% while copying and the reslts were fine on one disc but total pixellation on another
[16:53] <BluesKaj> correction on=from
[16:53] <penguin42> what was the dd command you used/
[16:54] <penguin42> they really shouldn't use much CPU
[17:04] <yofel> you want to increase the blocksize, uses more memory but less CPU
[17:09] <BluesKaj> I just used  bs=1024, means byte size I think
[17:09] <yofel> block size, 1024 would be 1KB, if you're copying an iso $((1024*1024)) == 1MB would be faster
[17:10] <yofel> default is 512 bytes which takes ages for that amount of data
[17:13] <bjsnider> would the seek/write cycle of the drive be the biggest choke point in dd?
[17:13] <bjsnider> i mean is the cpu time iowait?
[17:13] <BluesKaj> ok , so , M  =1024*1024
[17:13] <bjsnider> if your cpu is up at 90% is most of it iowait?
[17:14] <BluesKaj> one core is ar 95% , the other is only at 20% ..wouldn't sharing the load be more efficient
[17:15] <BluesKaj> iowait?
[17:15] <bjsnider> yeah, input/output wait
[17:16] <bjsnider> means the cpu is waiting for hardware to give it info it has requested
[17:24] <BluesKaj> yofel what's blocksize command ..I have the man page open but... count=BLOCKS , .what size ? ..speed isn't necessary just accuracy
[17:35] <penguin42> if it's showing a core at a % it's not normally iowait
[17:35]  * penguin42 would use bs= at least 2048 on an iso to a drive; CDs basic sectors are 2k (for data)
[17:36] <yofel> BluesKaj: no, bs= is blocksize, you don't need count= if you're dd-ing a fiel
[17:36] <yofel> *file
[17:39] <BluesKaj> ok, yofel thanks , looks like the disc is problematic ...not dd
[18:10] <BluesKaj> odd tho , when I play the disk , it works fine , but when I try to dd or cp , it's totally pixellated and unwatchable
[18:13] <BluesKaj> the first disc in this set dd 'd  fine to an iso , the 2nd plays ok , but seems uncopyable
[18:44] <BluesKaj> anyway k9copy worked , copied the 2nd disc to an iso without a hitch
[18:48] <bjsnider> you shouldn't need any extra software to copy a disc to an iso, just right-click and select copy disc
[18:51] <penguin42> BluesKaj: Is it just data or is it video/audio ?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> video/audio
[18:54] <penguin42> DVD?
[18:55] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, the playback on vlc was totally corrupt on the 2nd disc iso with dd and cp , the first disc dd to iso, plays fine ...go figure
[18:55] <BluesKaj> penguin42, yeah dvd
[18:55] <bjsnider> maybe the disc was still encrypted. maybe libdvdcss2 couldn't grab the key
[18:56] <penguin42> BluesKaj: None-data discs are a bit special; their sectors are actually different sizes for the audio and video data; I've never tried dding one directly
[18:57] <BluesKaj> this pc is our media server , so i'm copying  our fav dvds to the hdd,
[19:00] <BluesKaj> penguin42, well, this packaged set , Cream at the Royal Albert, the first one dd > iso and plays fine on vlc , dd-ing the 2nd iso wasn't playable ...rather odd, no ?
[19:01] <penguin42> indeed
[19:01]  * penguin42 prefers Clapton when he was playing alone
[19:01] <BluesKaj> k9copy seemed to do the trick on the 2nd , anyeay
[19:01] <BluesKaj> anyway
[19:03] <BluesKaj> penguin42, well for my generation , the Cream reunion was historical
[19:26] <dupondje> Bugs bugs bugs :(
[19:26] <dupondje> :p
[19:27] <dupondje> my new laptop got to many exotic hardware it seems :p
[19:53] <dupondje> cdbs: You also have an XPS 15 I sse ?
[19:55] <Pici> Well, I upgraded to Oneiric.
[20:03] <dupondje> Damn
[20:04] <dupondje> gotto love Intel Wireless team :)
[20:04] <dupondje> Bugreported, and 2 hours later a good response :)
[21:30] <dsdale> Hey folks, I think there might be an issue in numpy's distutils that needs to be patched for 11.10. In /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/numpy/distutils/system_info.py, the default_x11_{lib,include}_dirs are pointing to nonexistent directories, and should be changed to
[21:30] <dsdale>    default_x11_lib_dirs = libpaths(['/usr/lib/X11', '/usr/lib'], platform_bits)
[21:30] <dsdale>     default_x11_include_dirs = ['/usr/include/X11', '/usr/include']
[21:32] <micahg> dsdale: that doesn't sound right, considering multiarch
[21:33] <dsdale> well, /usr/X11/lib and /usr/X11/include don't exist
[21:34] <micahg> dsdale: oh, that's definitely wrong :)
[21:34] <micahg> dsdale: can you file a bug for this?
[21:35] <dsdale> sure. Could you please provide a link?
[21:35] <micahg> dsdale: ubuntu-bug python-numpy
[21:35] <dsdale> Sorry, that doesn't mean anything to me
[21:36] <micahg> dsdale: you can just run it on the command line
[21:36] <dsdale> ah
[21:36] <micahg> it'll open up launchpad with some information about the package
[21:36] <dsdale> thanks
[21:37] <dsdale> Traceback (most recent call last):
[21:37] <dsdale>   File "/usr/share/apport/apport-kde", line 36, in <module>
[21:37] <dsdale>     apport.fatal('Could not import module, is a package upgrade in progress?  Error: %s', str(e))
[21:37] <dsdale> NameError: name 'apport' is not defined
[21:38] <micahg> ugh, I guess apport is broken as well
[21:40] <micahg> yofel: any ideas ^^
[21:42] <yofel> dsdale: works for me, does 'apport-cli python-numpy' in konsole fail too?
[21:43] <dsdale> no
[21:44] <yofel> uh, now that's fun, from the trace it seems that an import error happens, but before apport is loaded, then the error message tries to use the not-imported apport and that call crashes too
[23:49] <alex_mayorga> !gnome
[23:56] <alex_mayorga> Does anyone know if this is implemented already? http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27614
[23:58] <alex_mayorga> how do I restore the "Ubuntu classic" option?