[03:58] <TeT> hi
[04:01] <dtchen> hi
[04:07] <TeT> My zeitgeist-datah process is constantly in a zombie state, even just after rebooting the system. Is that worth reporting as a bug ?
[04:08] <TeT> (on natty)
[04:08] <micahg> TeT: already reported
[04:09] <micahg> I think, or maybe I just talked to seif about it...
[04:10] <micahg> yep, I already reported it, bug 739780
[04:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 739780 in zeitgeist (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Session starting with a zeitgeist-datahub zombie process (affects: 53) (dups: 3) (heat: 216)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/739780
[04:10] <micahg> err, rather I reported it and was duped to this
[04:11] <TeT> yup
[04:11] <TeT> i'm glad i asked, that's exactly it. I will add myself to that bug. Thanks !
[04:11] <dtchen> yeah, it seems to work fine here
[04:11] <micahg> TeT: so, to get it fixed in natty, we'd need to cherry-pick the fix and SRU it
[04:13] <TeT> Well doesn't make too much sense to me to be honest. But i will read the report and see if i can get it :) Apparently it's not affecting the system in any way. It's just a problem about an already existing zeitgeist-datahub process right ?
[04:14] <micahg> right, that seems to be the conclusion
[04:17] <TeT> Ok. I thought that was the cause of the very bad crash i got randomly since months but it's not... Too bad ! I will have to dig more. Thanks for the info ! Bye !
[04:17] <dtchen> what type of "very bad crash"?
[04:19] <TeT> It's totally random. I just loose control over the system and the memory seems to get used more and more. The hard drive is acting crazy. Sounds like a memory leak or something but i was never able to get where does that comes from. I should take a good look at the logs to get a clue.
[04:22] <dtchen> that symptom sounds a lot like thrashing, which yes would be caused by a badly-leaking app
[04:23] <dtchen> you might be able to tail -F /var/log/syslog (or try multitail) and look for OOM in the final throes
[04:23] <TeT> At first i thought it was related to VLC so i didn't really try to get it into a bug report. But it happens even when i'm not using VLC now. I will try to spend time on that tomorow and eventually come by here to get some help :)
[04:24] <TeT> I just check the syslog and there is definitely something in there. But it's too late now :) Good night guys !
[04:24] <dtchen> 'night
[15:18] <hggdh> penguin42: OK, you are in (in theory); end of this week we will add you, we need to wait a week for (additional) comments
[15:18] <penguin42> Thanks
[15:18] <hggdh> I wish all applications were responded to as fast...
[15:18] <hggdh> and I thought I would be the first to answer...
[15:52] <penguin42> Can I suggest a 'high' for bug 803685  - oops in btrfs isn't pretty (Severe impact on small portion; assuming lots of people aren't hitting it!)
[15:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 803685 in linux (Ubuntu) "[kernel BUG at btrfs/tree-log.c:820!] Ubuntu cannot mount my btrfs /home partition (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803685
[15:54] <charlie-tca> I did not think btrfs was supported in 11.04 ?
[15:54] <penguin42> hmm interesting
[15:55] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Well we distribute the module and btrfs-tools is in main
[15:56]  * penguin42 doesn't know if the installer lets you do it
[16:03] <hggdh> I think you can I do not know either; but I do not use btrfs (at least no FSs here), and it is still loaded on boot
[16:04] <hggdh> also, I would expect the installer to allow you to define btrfs partitions (either standard D-I on server, or alternate, IDK about desktop)
[16:04] <penguin42> bug 788238 seems to be another instance of the same thing
[16:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 788238 in linux (Ubuntu) "linux-2.6.38.8 btrfs System does not boot (hang in initramfs) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788238
[16:06] <charlie-tca> Then perhaps it is valid?
[16:07] <charlie-tca> so, is the first one a dup of 788238?
[16:07] <penguin42> I don't think you're supposed to dupe kernel bugs?
[16:08] <hggdh> penguin42: no, you are not, unless the hardware is identical (and the kernel)
[16:09] <hggdh> also, the kernel traces are slightly different, although both have btrfs_mount in the stack
[16:10] <charlie-tca> okay, 803685 done
[16:12] <penguin42> hggdh: Yeh although they're both tripping the same BUG call and both via replat_one_buffer
[16:12] <hjd> could someone take a look at bug 416972. I closed it because the problem went away for the reporter, but someone in the last comment found another way to trigger it. Should I leave a comment encouraging that person to report a new bug?
[16:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 416972 in debian (and 3 other projects) "GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_util_uint64_scale_int: assertion `denom > 0' failed (affects: 2) (heat: 7)" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416972
[16:13] <hggdh> hjd: better to ask the poster to open a new bug, the code is two releases apart
[16:14] <hggdh> and refer to this one
[16:15] <charlie-tca> penguin42: I agree if the partitioner allows use of btrfs, it should be valid
[16:17] <hjd> hggdh: by "refer to this one" you mean refer to the old bug from the new one, right?
[16:21] <hggdh> hjd: yes indeed, add a link to the old one
[16:24] <hjd> hggdh: ok, done. I was just slightly confused by that second sentence.
[16:32] <hggdh> hjd: sorry
[16:38] <yofel> penguin42: btrfs is an option in the installer, but very easy to break, I'm using for ~2months now on 2 systems and had 2 trashed filesystems already. Also, it might be a good idea to ask in #btrfs what data they might find useful.
[16:38] <penguin42> yofel: Yeh I mean you won't get me using btrfs on anything important for a few years :-)
[16:39] <yofel> well, as long as you have a SSD it's usable, but I'm not trusting it my /home. And you need backups anyway
[16:39] <yofel> snapshotting *is* nice :P
[16:40]  * penguin42 must get an SSD - I fancy the pci-express ones
[16:41] <yofel> I've got a 80GB PCIe one in my desktop PC. <3
[16:42] <penguin42> nice
[16:42] <yofel> loading the bios takes longer than booting natty :P
[16:42] <htorque> unfortunately that's also true with UEFI :(
[16:43] <hggdh> one day I will have the money to get a nice SSD...
[16:43] <htorque> time for coreboot to rule the world ;-)
[21:47] <RenatoSilva> can someone give an answer about bug 733393, comment 12?
[21:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 733393 in emerald (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 2 other projects) "[natty, SRU] emerald segfault on launch (affects: 42) (dups: 3) (heat: 227)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733393
[21:48] <charlie-tca> We don't actually work for Canonical. Might want to ask by email direct to them. However,
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Canonical does not really produce Ubuntu, volunteers do
[21:49] <charlie-tca> as to emerald, it is obsolete and unmaintained. It is pretty hard to get a current version.
[21:49] <micahg> RenatoSilva: emerald is in universe and community maintained
[21:50] <charlie-tca> and since it was asked by the same person in several channels, you will get several answers
[21:59] <hggdh> oh, another one shotgunning a question on multiple channels :-(
[22:01] <RenatoSilva> micahg: ok, but in general, how would I find out which repo is it? what's the procedure you know, except for removing the local package so that the repo location 'appears'
[22:02] <micahg> RenatoSilva: if you need an update, you can just file a bug requesting an update and tag it upgrade-software-version
[22:10] <RenatoSilva> you didn't get the question
[22:11] <yofel> RenatoSilva: 'apt-cache policy <package>' will tell you the repository it's from
[22:12] <RenatoSilva> I have a locally installed newer package foo-2.0, but if I didn't, it would be foo-1.0 from repo. Having done it, it shows as local in synaptic, how to know the original source without uninstalling the local version so that foo-1.0 shows up as in repo xyz (rather than in local)
[22:13] <yofel> RenatoSilva: apt-cache policy will still show what version is in the archive and what component it's from
[22:13] <yofel> or look at the source page in launchpad. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald in this case
[22:14] <RenatoSilva> yofel: sorry I didn't read your message before sending. I'd like some ui way but that works fine. Thanks!
[22:15] <yofel> I don't use GUIs much for package management. So there probably is a way, but I don't know one right now
[22:16] <RenatoSilva> ok thanks anyway!
[22:16]  * RenatoSilva tries to stick 'cache policy' into mind
[22:43] <jbicha> RenatoSilva: you could also just visit the Launchpad page: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/emerald lists all the versions with which repo they are in
[22:47] <RenatoSilva> jbicha: yeah thanks, if I forget the command I can go to the package page :)
[23:26] <hggdh> well, synaptic will show where a package came from via right-click and selecting Properties
[23:48] <RenatoSilva> hggdh: you mean this? http://i.imgur.com/aeOXZ.png