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pdtpatrick_ | Question -- why is it when u use static IP. /etc/resolv.conf keeps going blank after reboot? Is network manager still controlling that file? | 07:30 |
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broder | !support | pdtpatrick_ | 07:31 |
ubottu | pdtpatrick_: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Please be aware that this channel is for development only. | 07:31 |
pdtpatrick_ | because i've asked that question many times in the other rooms and no one seems to know .. thought i'd ask the developers instead | 07:39 |
cjwatson | pdtpatrick_: you can try http://askubuntu.com/ if IRC support channels don't know the answer; we would still prefer that this channel not become overspill from #ubuntu, because it will get very hard for us to use it for development in that case | 08:08 |
cjwatson | (I know it's quiet over the weekend) | 08:09 |
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melodie_ | hi, I have met with an issue that is reported at launchpad, related to the gmixer program. As the program and package have been developed at Ubuntu, I thought I would ask about the development of this package. It has not been continued since 2009, and has a bug reported by many persons of different distros. What could be done about it ? | 13:07 |
melodie_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/gmixer/+bug/416292 | 13:08 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 416292 in gmixer "gmixer fails to launch" [Undecided,New] | 13:08 |
melodie_ | here is the link | 13:08 |
melodie_ | if someone has answers to this... the dev seems not to answer, I had wrote to him a few weeks ago to offer to improve the translation to French : since then, no answer. :/ | 13:09 |
melodie_ | hi EagleScreen | 13:11 |
melodie_ | I am looking for an information : is there a place where someone in charge of following the development of some given packages can be found ? | 13:12 |
EagleScreen | melodie_: I think there are several places | 13:13 |
melodie_ | EagleScreen, if I repeat the full info about the issue I meet with will it help you to advise me better ? | 13:15 |
EagleScreen | melodie_: may be.. | 13:16 |
melodie_ | I have met with an issue that is reported at launchpad, related to the gmixer program. | 13:17 |
melodie_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/gmixer/+bug/416292 | 13:17 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 416292 in gmixer "gmixer fails to launch" [Undecided,New] | 13:17 |
melodie_ | I didn't post there because I can't reproduce it since the beginning unless I install it to a new Linux install. | 13:17 |
melodie_ | but I noticed some time ago that the program has not had updates since 2009 | 13:18 |
melodie_ | so I was wondering if there is a place where I could point to it. We don't have many valuable gtk2 mixers at linux distros actually. gnome-alsamixer is not updated anymore, and gmixer same does not seem active. other mixers are not so good looking, or may be heavy or attached to a desktop environment | 13:19 |
penguin42 | melodie_: Well these days people are expected to do everything via pulse | 13:19 |
melodie_ | hi penguin42 how is that ? | 13:20 |
melodie_ | what if you want a leightweight system without pulse ? | 13:21 |
penguin42 | melodie_: Yes I understand; Is that true of one of xubuntu or lubuntu? | 13:22 |
melodie_ | I don't understand "is that true of one... " ? | 13:24 |
melodie_ | lubuntu is light, crunchbang used to be build on ubuntu, with the Openbox wm as unique environment. I also use a distro with Openbox standalone... and a few tweaks in to make it easy to use daily. | 13:25 |
penguin42 | I meant do any of lubuntu or xubuntu ship without pa ? | 13:25 |
melodie_ | such as this one :p → http://mimasgpc.free.fr/openbox-menu_en.html | 13:25 |
melodie_ | penguin42, I have no idea, haven't used them | 13:25 |
melodie_ | pa : is pulse ? | 13:26 |
penguin42 | yeh | 13:26 |
melodie_ | pulse audio ? | 13:26 |
melodie_ | ok | 13:26 |
melodie_ | :) | 13:26 |
melodie_ | penguin42, so what about gmixer ? | 13:29 |
penguin42 | melodie_: I don't know; it doesn't look like it's ever been in an Ubuntu package | 13:29 |
melodie_ | is it going to be abandonned as pulse audio is supposed to be used as a mixer ? (is that possible ?) | 13:29 |
melodie_ | oh yes it is | 13:30 |
melodie_ | wait a sec | 13:30 |
melodie_ | https://launchpad.net/gmixer | 13:30 |
melodie_ | isn't launchpad a Ubuntu place ? Or I understood nothing about it ? | 13:31 |
penguin42 | melodie_: Not all the projects on launchpad are ubuntu packages | 13:31 |
melodie_ | ok | 13:31 |
melodie_ | therefore theses gtk2 mixers are poor orphans | 13:32 |
melodie_ | thanks for the infos... | 13:32 |
penguin42 | melodie_: To me it looks like a project someone created and then didn't do much with | 13:32 |
EagleScreen | melodie_: it is better to try to contact with upstream author if you are interested in gmixer | 13:33 |
melodie_ | EagleScreen, sure... that's what I did first : I wrote to the author several weeks ago and I never got an answer | 13:34 |
melodie_ | I think alsamixer-gnome and gmixer should find devs to adopt them. they are good programs | 13:35 |
melodie_ | and none approaches them for the quality. | 13:36 |
EagleScreen | melodie_: the software applications born and die, like the humans, they are not alive forever... | 13:36 |
penguin42 | melodie_: So what are you doing in your spare time? | 13:36 |
melodie_ | in their range of action of course | 13:36 |
EagleScreen | if you were good in gtk programming, you could adopt them | 13:36 |
melodie_ | I do this and this and this : http://melodie.tyruiop.eu/ http://citrotux.org/ and this : Bonsai : http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/PCLinuxOS_cli_iso_and_children | 13:37 |
penguin42 | melodie_: You might want to look at xfce4-mixer or gamix | 13:37 |
melodie_ | I looked at gamix, was not convinced. xfce4-mixer brings in Xfce apps : I need agnostic apps | 13:38 |
melodie_ | as much as possible | 13:38 |
* penguin42 segfaults gamix | 13:39 | |
melodie_ | http://meets.free.fr/images/pclinuxos-bonsai-2011.png | 13:39 |
melodie_ | this is the last test version uploaded. I have redone it completely last night, and will now install it to a machine for more tests | 13:40 |
melodie_ | the looks is that one. | 13:40 |
melodie_ | I don't program : I take pieces and put them together in a way that other people have not thought about before. | 13:40 |
melodie_ | with the help of a few persons | 13:41 |
EagleScreen | melodie_: you may take a look to veromix | 13:41 |
melodie_ | EagleScreen, I look, thanks | 13:41 |
melodie_ | it's a plasma widget ? :o | 13:42 |
EagleScreen | not sure | 13:42 |
melodie_ | that's what I find while googling | 13:42 |
melodie_ | it's a kde app | 13:43 |
melodie_ | :| | 13:43 |
EagleScreen | a kde app would be bad, but it is a plasma-widget, so only runs in kde4 | 13:44 |
melodie_ | EagleScreen, ok. so it's not the subject | 13:44 |
EagleScreen | yes, i see | 13:45 |
melodie_ | I'll try to find people looking for apps to continue | 13:45 |
melodie_ | :) | 13:45 |
melodie_ | and developing in python mostly | 13:45 |
EagleScreen | but dont forget you have alsamixer in console mode | 13:45 |
melodie_ | what desktop do you use ? gnome ? | 13:45 |
melodie_ | EagleScreen, I don't forget. that's what I configured for volumeicon on the "bonsai" version | 13:46 |
EagleScreen | I use mostly KDE, but also others | 13:46 |
melodie_ | :) | 13:46 |
jykae | Dev week in Finland: http://jykae.blogspot.com/2011/07/ubuntu-developer-week.html | 14:49 |
* penguin42 guesses they'll got a lot of stuff finished off | 14:51 | |
penguin42 | jykae: It's hard organising things like that | 15:04 |
jykae | penguin42: yep, learned a lot for next time | 15:18 |
jykae | Those Qt meetings will be a good place to present news from Ubuntu for Qt developers | 15:21 |
jykae | quite many of those Qt devs didn't know that Natty is QML | 15:22 |
penguin42 | QML? | 15:27 |
jykae | penguin42: start here http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qdeclarativeintroduction.html | 15:40 |
penguin42 | ah - yet another GUI programming language | 15:41 |
jykae | penguin42: different approach, descriptive language for UI, programming can be done with the language of your choice, eg. C++ or Python | 15:45 |
penguin42 | jykae: Nod, I'm fairly sure there are others with similar ideas that I've come across before | 15:46 |
penguin42 | jykae: I mean it's not that different from teh files generated by glade | 15:46 |
bdrung | hi, someone here with a maverick i386 system who can testbuild a package? | 15:48 |
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melodie_ | bye, thanks for all ! | 16:36 |
h3Ld3r | hi all | 17:45 |
h3Ld3r | need a bit of help on customizing an ubutnu CD from shell | 17:46 |
h3Ld3r | any one here to help me. plzzzzzzzz | 17:49 |
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micahg | I have lm-sensors which is replacing lm-sensors-3, should I -v to the last lm-sensors upload or the last lm-sensors-3 upload? | 19:39 |
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slangasek | ok, who changed what that caused *all* of my initramfses to be overwritten on upgrade? | 20:58 |
slangasek | they are now all broken | 20:58 |
slangasek | hmm, from a bootchart update | 20:59 |
slangasek | well, this will make it fun to figure out what regressed to break plymouth text display in the initramfs :( | 21:00 |
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dupondje | [11150.306893] type=1400 audit(1310939778.399:16): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mkdir" parent=930 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/run/samba/" pid=4148 comm="smb" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=7 ouid=7 | 21:59 |
dupondje | mmm | 21:59 |
dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/812035 | 22:03 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 812035 in cups (Ubuntu) "Cups needs access to /run/samba/" [Undecided,New] | 22:03 |
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