[07:30] <pdtpatrick_> Question -- why is it when u use static IP. /etc/resolv.conf keeps going blank after reboot? Is network manager still controlling that file?
[07:31] <broder> !support | pdtpatrick_
[07:39] <pdtpatrick_> because i've asked that question many times in the other rooms and no one seems to know .. thought i'd ask the developers instead
[08:08] <cjwatson> pdtpatrick_: you can try http://askubuntu.com/ if IRC support channels don't know the answer; we would still prefer that this channel not become overspill from #ubuntu, because it will get very hard for us to use it for development in that case
[08:09] <cjwatson> (I know it's quiet over the weekend)
[13:07] <melodie_> hi, I have met with an issue that is reported at launchpad, related to the gmixer program. As the program and package have been developed at Ubuntu, I thought I would ask about the development of this package. It has not been continued since 2009, and has a bug reported by many persons of different distros. What could be done about it ?
[13:08] <melodie_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gmixer/+bug/416292
[13:08] <melodie_> here is the link
[13:09] <melodie_> if someone has answers to this... the dev seems not to answer, I had wrote to him a few weeks ago to offer to improve the translation to French : since then, no answer. :/
[13:11] <melodie_> hi EagleScreen
[13:12] <melodie_> I am looking for an information : is there a place where someone in charge of following the development of some given packages can be found ?
[13:13] <EagleScreen> melodie_: I think there are several places
[13:15] <melodie_> EagleScreen, if I repeat the full info about the issue I meet with will it help you to advise me better ?
[13:16] <EagleScreen> melodie_: may be..
[13:17] <melodie_>  I have met with an issue that is reported at launchpad, related to the gmixer program.
[13:17] <melodie_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gmixer/+bug/416292
[13:17] <melodie_> I didn't post there because I can't reproduce it since the beginning unless I install it to a new Linux install.
[13:18] <melodie_> but I noticed some time ago that the program has not had updates since 2009
[13:19] <melodie_> so I was wondering if there is a place where I could point to it. We don't have many valuable gtk2 mixers at linux distros actually. gnome-alsamixer is not updated anymore, and gmixer same does not seem active. other mixers are not so good looking, or may be heavy or attached to a desktop environment
[13:19] <penguin42> melodie_: Well these days people are expected to do everything via pulse
[13:20] <melodie_> hi penguin42 how is that ?
[13:21] <melodie_> what if you want a leightweight system without pulse ?
[13:22] <penguin42> melodie_: Yes I understand; Is that true of one of xubuntu or lubuntu?
[13:24] <melodie_> I don't understand "is that true of one... " ?
[13:25] <melodie_> lubuntu is light, crunchbang used to be build on ubuntu, with the Openbox wm as unique environment. I also use a distro with Openbox standalone... and a few tweaks in to make it easy to use daily.
[13:25] <penguin42> I meant do any of lubuntu or xubuntu ship without pa ?
[13:25] <melodie_> such as this one :p → http://mimasgpc.free.fr/openbox-menu_en.html
[13:25] <melodie_> penguin42, I have no idea, haven't used them
[13:26] <melodie_> pa : is pulse ?
[13:26] <penguin42> yeh
[13:26] <melodie_> pulse audio ?
[13:26] <melodie_> ok
[13:26] <melodie_> :)
[13:29] <melodie_> penguin42, so what about gmixer ?
[13:29] <penguin42> melodie_: I don't know; it doesn't look like it's ever been in an Ubuntu package
[13:29] <melodie_> is it going to be abandonned as pulse audio is supposed to be used as a mixer ? (is that possible ?)
[13:30] <melodie_> oh yes it is
[13:30] <melodie_> wait a sec
[13:30] <melodie_> https://launchpad.net/gmixer
[13:31] <melodie_> isn't launchpad a Ubuntu place ? Or I understood nothing about it ?
[13:31] <penguin42> melodie_: Not all the projects on launchpad are ubuntu packages
[13:31] <melodie_> ok
[13:32] <melodie_> therefore theses gtk2 mixers are poor orphans
[13:32] <melodie_> thanks for the infos...
[13:32] <penguin42> melodie_: To me it looks like a project someone created and then didn't do much with
[13:33] <EagleScreen> melodie_: it is better to try to contact with upstream author if you are interested in gmixer
[13:34] <melodie_> EagleScreen, sure... that's what I did first : I wrote to the author several weeks ago and I never got an answer
[13:35] <melodie_> I think alsamixer-gnome and gmixer should find devs to adopt them. they are good programs
[13:36] <melodie_> and none approaches them for the quality.
[13:36] <EagleScreen> melodie_: the software applications born and die, like the humans, they are not alive forever...
[13:36] <penguin42> melodie_: So what are you doing in your spare time?
[13:36] <melodie_> in their range of action of course
[13:36] <EagleScreen> if you were good in gtk programming, you could adopt them
[13:37] <melodie_> I do this and this and this : http://melodie.tyruiop.eu/ http://citrotux.org/ and this : Bonsai : http://tyruiop.eu/~melodie/Downloads/ISOS/PCLinuxOS_cli_iso_and_children
[13:37] <penguin42> melodie_: You might want to look at xfce4-mixer or gamix
[13:38] <melodie_> I looked at gamix, was not convinced. xfce4-mixer brings in Xfce apps : I need agnostic apps
[13:38] <melodie_> as much as possible
[13:39]  * penguin42 segfaults gamix
[13:39] <melodie_> http://meets.free.fr/images/pclinuxos-bonsai-2011.png
[13:40] <melodie_> this is the last test version uploaded. I have redone it completely last night, and will now install it to a machine for more tests
[13:40] <melodie_> the looks is that one.
[13:40] <melodie_> I don't program : I take pieces and put them together in a way that other people have not thought about before.
[13:41] <melodie_> with the help of a few persons
[13:41] <EagleScreen> melodie_: you may take a look to veromix
[13:41] <melodie_> EagleScreen, I look, thanks
[13:42] <melodie_> it's a plasma widget ? :o
[13:42] <EagleScreen> not sure
[13:42] <melodie_> that's what I find while googling
[13:43] <melodie_> it's a kde app
[13:43] <melodie_> :|
[13:44] <EagleScreen> a kde app would be bad, but it is a plasma-widget, so only runs in kde4
[13:44] <melodie_> EagleScreen, ok. so it's not the subject
[13:45] <EagleScreen> yes, i see
[13:45] <melodie_> I'll try to find people looking for apps to continue
[13:45] <melodie_> :)
[13:45] <melodie_> and developing in python mostly
[13:45] <EagleScreen> but dont forget you have alsamixer in console mode
[13:45] <melodie_> what desktop do you use ? gnome ?
[13:46] <melodie_> EagleScreen, I don't forget. that's what I configured for volumeicon on the "bonsai" version
[13:46] <EagleScreen> I use mostly KDE, but also others
[13:46] <melodie_> :)
[14:49] <jykae> Dev week in Finland: http://jykae.blogspot.com/2011/07/ubuntu-developer-week.html
[14:51]  * penguin42 guesses they'll got a lot of stuff finished off
[15:04] <penguin42> jykae: It's hard organising things like that
[15:18] <jykae> penguin42: yep, learned a lot for next time
[15:21] <jykae> Those Qt meetings will be a good place to present news from Ubuntu for Qt developers
[15:22] <jykae> quite many of those Qt devs didn't know that Natty is QML
[15:27] <penguin42> QML?
[15:40] <jykae> penguin42: start here http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/qdeclarativeintroduction.html
[15:41] <penguin42> ah - yet another GUI programming language
[15:45] <jykae> penguin42: different approach, descriptive language for UI, programming can be done with the language of your choice, eg. C++ or Python
[15:46] <penguin42> jykae: Nod, I'm fairly sure there are others with similar ideas that I've come across before
[15:46] <penguin42> jykae: I mean it's not that different from teh files generated by glade
[15:48] <bdrung> hi, someone here with a maverick i386 system who can testbuild a package?
[16:36] <melodie_> bye, thanks for all !
[17:45] <h3Ld3r> hi all
[17:46] <h3Ld3r> need a bit of help on customizing an ubutnu CD from shell
[17:49] <h3Ld3r> any one here to help me. plzzzzzzzz
[19:39] <micahg> I have lm-sensors which is replacing lm-sensors-3, should I -v to the last lm-sensors upload or the last lm-sensors-3 upload?
[20:58] <slangasek> ok, who changed what that caused *all* of my initramfses to be overwritten on upgrade?
[20:58] <slangasek> they are now all broken
[20:59] <slangasek> hmm, from a bootchart update
[21:00] <slangasek> well, this will make it fun to figure out what regressed to break plymouth text display in the initramfs :(
[21:59] <dupondje> [11150.306893] type=1400 audit(1310939778.399:16): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mkdir" parent=930 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name="/run/samba/" pid=4148 comm="smb" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=7 ouid=7
[21:59] <dupondje> mmm
[22:03] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/812035