[13:46] <Kilos> afternoob superfly and others
[13:46] <Kilos> afternoon actually
[13:47] <superfly> 'noob Kilos :-P
[13:49] <Kilos> hehe
[13:55] <Kilos> Maaz, how about a cuppa
[13:55] <Maaz> Grrr , Kilos You know you need to ask properly and correctly. No typo's allowed
[13:56] <Kilos> Maaz, sorry
[13:56] <Maaz> Kilos, it's ok
[13:56] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[13:56]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[14:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:00] <Kilos> Maaz, thanks a lot
[14:00] <Maaz> Kilos: my pleasure
[14:03] <Symmetria> yay, I bought me a 16 disk pink floyd box set <3 
[14:03]  * Symmetria mp3s it to stick it in his car
[14:03] <Kilos> lol
[14:03] <Symmetria> pink floyd > * :P
[14:04] <Kilos> i am sure i listened to them about 35 years ago
[14:05] <Symmetria> *snort* pink floyd is a lot younger than that :P 
[14:05] <Kilos> oh ok, thought they were same time as led zeppelin and those
[14:05] <Symmetria> :P the wall was released in 1979 ok so not that much younger
[14:06] <Kilos> hehe
[14:06] <Symmetria> still one of the best albums ever released
[14:06] <Kilos> i am 4 years out
[14:06] <Kilos> sue me
[14:06] <Kilos> hehe
[14:06] <Symmetria> not my fault that they dont make decent music anymore :(
[14:07] <Kilos> every now and then there is a good song that stands out
[14:07] <Kilos> i really enjoy no matter what by boyzone
[14:08] <Symmetria> most modern music has no meaning to it, its all so... superficial :P it irritates me 
[14:09] <Kilos> hey Symmetria you the networking specialist
[14:09] <Symmetria> heh I know a little bit about networking yes
[14:10] <Kilos> how do i tell my network manager to forget looking at 'europium.canonical.com ' every 20 to 30 secs
[14:10] <Symmetria> heh, that I have no idea about :) thats not a networking question, its a linux question
[14:11] <Kilos> anything from 15b to 300b at a time
[14:11] <Kilos> oh
[14:11] <Kilos> ty
[14:12] <Symmetria> sorry mate :) I honestly dont know enough about ubuntu's network manager
[14:12] <Symmetria> especially since every ubuntu box I run is a server and I don't run anything like that 
[14:13]  * Symmetria doesnt run linux desktops
[14:13] <Kilos> not a prob Symmetria . someone will know how to configure it
[14:13] <Kilos> aw. you miss all the fun
[14:14] <Symmetria> hehe nah, I run osx as desktop <3
[14:14] <Kilos> i will try that one day maybe
[14:15] <Symmetria> hehe you can install it on normal pc hardware but it doesnt run as well as on mac hardware
[14:15] <Kilos> there are a few i would like to try but will never leave ubuntu
[14:15] <Kilos> oh
[14:15] <Symmetria> never say never :) 
[14:16] <Symmetria> I said the same about slackware in like, 1994 :P 
[14:16] <Kilos> no man ubuntu has been good to and for me
[14:16] <Symmetria> yes :) but never is a longgggggggg time :)
[14:16] <Kilos> no
[14:16] <Kilos> not when you are my age
[14:17] <Kilos> at least at this age everything is downhill
[14:17] <Kilos> hehe
[14:17] <Symmetria> anyway :) off to read book, back later
[14:18] <Kilos> enjoy
[14:26] <Kilos> hi MxG you new here?
[14:52] <MxG> Hi
[14:52] <MxG> Sorry for long delay, am new yes
[14:53] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za MxG 
[14:53] <MxG> Thanks :)
[15:36]  * nlsthzn waves
[15:43]  * Kilos waves back to ahab land
[15:43] <Kilos> lo apie
[15:43] <apie> lo kilos /o
[15:45] <nlsthzn> Hey uncle Kilos :)
[15:45] <Kilos> you well nlsthzn 
[15:48] <Kilos> die son sak en die apie is weg
[15:48] <nlsthzn> Kilos: getting better by the minute actually... in another 11 hours I will end my "4 days then 4 nights in a row of 12 hour shifts from hell" ... 
[15:48] <kbmonkey> hows all doing?
[15:48] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey 
[15:48] <nlsthzn> Hey monkeyman
[15:48] <kbmonkey> ek's nog hierso Kilos, was n bietjie weg vir die naweek gewees
[15:49] <Kilos> ek het n lekker prob vir julle slimmes
[15:49] <Kilos> i use iftop to monitor network action
[15:51] <Kilos> as soon as i connect to vodacom there is some site that i get the address as europium.canonical.com:ntp 
[15:51] <Kilos> thats apart from the vodacom ones
[15:51] <Kilos> and it uses between 15b and 300b evry 20 to 30 seconds
[15:52] <nlsthzn> sounds like the time server
[15:52] <Kerbero> jip it does
[15:52] <nlsthzn> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ntp.org%2F&rct=j&q=ntp&ei=LQUjTvGLF4rKrAeSxYX7AQ&usg=AFQjCNG_N99i2zsTp4HsHRjA8pPtV8anig&sig2=kdI-dFr-e_1_IdmagblrXQ&cad=rja
[15:52] <Kilos> how do i configure network manager to ignore it or disable it
[15:52] <Kerbero> seeing that the port is the NTP port
[15:52] <Kerbero> Kilos: sudo gedit /etc/ntpd.conf
[15:52] <Kerbero> comment alle lyne uit wat met server begin
[15:53] <Kerbero> of gaan na die date&time gui
[15:53] <nlsthzn> there should be a GUI also that you can say not to use NTP in time and date prefrences I am sure
[15:53] <Kerbero> en disable die internet syncing
[15:53] <nlsthzn> :)
[15:53] <Kilos>  ok i go try edit
[15:53] <Kerbero> ek persoonlik wil juis he^ my PC moet oor die netwerk sy tyd sync
[15:53]  * nlsthzn is mostly lost in Linux land so to actually have half a clue on something makes him feel all warm and fuzzy inside
[15:54] <Kerbero> maar mens kan deesdae nie uit die gui uit die server kies nie
[15:54] <Kerbero> so dan moet ek die conf file edit
[15:54] <Kilos> ya thats why i did that originally kbmonkey  but now data is more important
[15:54] <nlsthzn> A lot of distro's gives you the option when installing to use ntp and to choose your server... I guess that is seen as to advanced for Ubuntu
[15:54] <Kerbero> *Kerbero
[15:54] <Kerbero> hehe
[15:55] <Kerbero> they just force you to use the canonical servers these days
[15:55] <Kilos> that file is empty
[15:55] <Kilos> sigh
[15:55] <Kerbero> dalk is dit ntp.conf
[15:56] <Kilos> also empty
[15:56] <Kerbero> just realised i don't have ntp on my netbook
[15:57] <Kilos> but now you say its for time updating i think i can find it
[15:57] <Kerbero> daar is 'n gui wat ek oop het voor my
[15:57] <Kerbero> Time & Date
[15:58]  * Symmetria looks at his travel itinerary for august and cries
[15:58] <Kerbero> hy staan op "Set Time: ... Automatically from the internet" selected
[15:58] <Symmetria> cpt -> jnb -> lnd -> fra -> ams -> fra -> jnb -> acc -> els -> cpt -> jnb -> kla -> jnb -> cpt <[15:58] <Kerbero> mens moet dit dan net op manually sit
[15:59] <Kilos> ya
[15:59] <Kilos> en manual
[15:59] <nlsthzn> Symmetria: sucks to be you... then again I would love to see all those countries, even just briefly
[15:59] <Kerbero> Symmetria: but you're paid for it
[15:59] <Kilos> ek is skere dis hy. dankie kbmonkey 
[15:59] <Kerbero> and likely you fly business class
[15:59] <Symmetria> heh Kerbero true, but its very very very tiring and no, they dont fly you business class unless you burn miles to upgrade
[15:59] <Kerbero> ok
[16:00] <Symmetria> heh that much flying is totally exhausting
[16:00] <Kerbero> in that case i will agree with you
[16:00] <Kerbero> one internasional flight+connecting flight+3 hours on the train almost killed me
[16:00] <Kerbero> when i came back it was the same in reverse, but much easier
[16:01] <Symmetria> heh, I also need to get to cameroon, kenya and rwanda by the end of the year
[16:01] <Symmetria> and probably one more trip to tanzania and one to mauritius
[16:02] <Kerbero> i havn't been in africa yet
[16:03] <Symmetria> heh, I've done africa fairly extensively (egypt, uganda, malawi, namibia, south africa, tanzania, kenya, ghana and a few others I cant remeber)
[16:03] <Kerbero> you've been to south africa?
[16:03] <Kerbero> :P
[16:04] <Symmetria> heh, then again, I've done the world fairly extensively
[16:04] <Kerbero> i still need to see america and australia
[16:05] <Kerbero> Symmetria: when you are in ams, what language do you speak?
[16:05] <Symmetria> brazil, USA, Canada, UK, Ireland, Italy, Germany, Spain, The Netherlands, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Egypt, Uganda, Malawi, Namibia, Tanzania, Kenya, Ghana
[16:05] <Symmetria> I'm sure there are a few I've missed on that list
[16:05] <Symmetria> English
[16:05] <Kerbero> can't you speak afrikaans?
[16:06] <Symmetria> heh, I can speak and understand basic afrikaans, but have you ever actually tried to communicate with the dutch in afrikaans?
[16:06] <Symmetria> :P good luck 
[16:06] <Kilos> lol
[16:06] <Kerbero> i communicate with them in dutch
[16:06] <Kerbero> so no prob
[16:06] <Symmetria> they can understand you fine, I think you'll have issues trying to understand them :P 
[16:06] <Symmetria> oh, you speak dutch?
[16:06] <Kerbero> jip
[16:06] <Symmetria> heh, I can follow afrikaans fairly easily, I CANNOT follow dutch for shit :)
[16:06] <Kerbero> lol
[16:08] <superfly> If they speak slowly, I can understand dutch
[16:08] <Symmetria> :P have you ever met a dutch person that does anything slowly?
[16:09] <Symmetria> unless they have been hanging in their coffee shops :P
[16:09] <Kerbero> lol
[16:09] <Symmetria> then the whole world slows down
[16:10] <Kerbero> one shouldn't go to a coffe shop in Ams
[16:10] <Symmetria> oh yes one should :P
[16:10] <Symmetria> they are awesome places :P
[16:10] <Kerbero> nah
[16:10] <Kerbero> the "local" ones are better
[16:10] <Symmetria> some of their pizza shops sell awesome pizza as well, their space pizza goes down like a treat :P
[16:10] <Symmetria> it just makes you kinda hungry
[16:10] <Kerbero> those in the city are meant for tourists
[16:11] <Kerbero> hehe
[16:11] <Kerbero> normally there is a pizza shop right next door to the coffee shop
[16:11] <Symmetria> heh, there are plenty of coffee shops that arent in the RLD though, hidden away, that my dutch friends take me to :P
[16:11] <Kerbero> ok, that's better
[16:11] <Symmetria> I've been more stoned off dutch pizza than anything Ive ever smoked there :P
[16:11] <Kerbero> lol
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:12] <Symmetria> seriously, beware of dutch pizza
[16:12] <Symmetria> and dutch chocolate
[16:12] <Symmetria> :P
[16:12] <Symmetria> and well, dutch anything with space infront of the name
[16:12] <Kerbero> dutch chocolate is awesome
[16:13] <Kerbero> lol
[16:13] <Symmetria> and stay very very far away from a place called "the headshop"
[16:13] <Kerbero> my parents brought me a stash chocolate again
[16:13] <Symmetria> because anything you buy off that menu, will screw with your head in ways you dont even understand
[16:14] <Kerbero> so i guess the pizzas normally come with shrooms
[16:14] <Symmetria> compile/tsunami-udp/client/tsunami --dlrate=1500Mb 
[16:14] <Symmetria> ooops
[16:14] <Symmetria> Kerbero no, they mix ground up weed into the flour they make the base with
[16:15] <Kerbero> o ok
[16:15] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <Symmetria> LOT of it :P
[16:15] <Kerbero> that can be bad
[16:15] <Symmetria> yes :P you don't realize you're geting stoned till you've eaten the whole pizza
[16:15] <Symmetria> and then it hits you all at once
[16:15] <Symmetria> and you're completely screwed
[16:15] <Kilos> hehe
[16:16]  * Kerbero won't spill the beans now, but had a roughly the same experience
[16:20]  * Symmetria goes for a smoke while he waits for 50gigs of files to download from london
[16:20] <Symmetria> heh, doing 700mbit/second, this shouldnt take 2 long :P
[16:21] <Kerbero> why so slow?
[16:21] <Symmetria> heh disks I'm reading off are hell busy
[16:21] <Symmetria> so slowing it down
[16:21] <Symmetria> more than adequate bandwidth/disk write capacity on the .za end
[16:21] <Symmetria> but the london end is running kinda hot on the disks because of other I/O
[16:21] <Kerbero> ok
[16:22] <Symmetria> normally would be running at about 1.5 gigabit
[17:21] <Kilos> sleep tight all of you. see you tomorrow
[17:21] <Kilos> aw i forgot
[17:22] <Kilos> MxG, introduce your self. what you do? what OS you use etc
[17:22] <Kilos> if you need help just ask
[17:24] <nlsthzn> :) night uncle Kilos 
[17:24] <Kilos> i just waiting to hear from MxG nlsthzn 
[17:24] <Kilos> he is new here
[17:27] <nlsthzn> MxG: hello :)
[17:28] <nlsthzn> You can go to bed Kilos ... we will look after MxG while you are gone :)
[17:28] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn night
[17:28] <nlsthzn> night....
[17:28] <Kilos> its too cold again
[17:28] <Kilos> hehe
[17:28] <Kilos> where your heat packages
[17:30] <nlsthzn> Maaz: tell Kilos The heat arives the morning of the 20th... dress lightly
[17:30] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:04] <MxG> nlsthzn: hi
[19:04] <nlsthzn> Hey MxG ... welcome to the channel :)
[19:04] <MxG> am not ignoring anyone btw, was just watching a movie
[19:04] <MxG> thanks
[19:05] <Symmetria>  errr, so like, if I have 100 sub directories off a directory, and I wanna tar each sub directory into a single tar per sub directory, someone gimme a command line to do that (irrespective of if the sub directories have spaces in them etc)
[19:05] <kbmonkey> hi again all
[19:06] <nlsthzn> Symmetria: arj -e -r c:\games a:\
[19:06] <nlsthzn> oh wait, never mind :p
[19:06] <kbmonkey> Symmetria, kind of like: for d in *; do tar -xvf $d...; done;
[19:07] <kbmonkey> lol nlsthzn! ;P
[19:07] <kbmonkey> but im not sure if that will also drill down
[19:07] <kbmonkey> tested: no drill down :)
[19:08] <nlsthzn> I am sure my arj flags are wrong... it has been 20 years since I used it :) Best way ever to share the fun of games on PC with others :p
[19:09] <Symmetria> heh kbmonkey doesnt work so well when its got spaces in it :p
[19:09] <kbmonkey> put "$d" quotes around the name
[19:09] <Symmetria> didnt work :)
[19:09] <Symmetria> I tried: for i in *; do tar cvf \"$i.tar\" \"$i\"; done
[19:09] <kbmonkey> oh :(
[19:10] <Symmetria> heh, it gets kinda screwy :P
[19:11] <kbmonkey> works for me :)
[19:12] <kbmonkey> for d in *; do tar -cf "$d.tar" "$d"; done;
[19:12] <Symmetria> heh, I did it with some vi scripting :P
[19:12] <kbmonkey> im liking bash lately!
[19:12] <kbmonkey> it's so functional
[19:12] <kbmonkey> vi scripting? that's new to me
[19:13] <Symmetria> heh, what I meant was, I just stuck the file names into vi and did some search and replace regex foo in vi 
[19:13] <Symmetria> to generate a nice script
[19:13] <Symmetria> :p
[19:17] <kbmonkey> watched swordfish again, I lolled at the hacking scenes :p like this one http://ompldr.org/vOWlseg
[19:18] <Symmetria> lol
[19:19] <nlsthzn> Only way to hack... in 3D
[19:19] <Symmetria> lol, so I bought this 16 disk box set of pink floyd, and I was gonna mp3 the whole lot to stick on my mp3 system in my car 
[19:19] <Symmetria> then I was like, screw the effort of mp3ing em, and went and found the same box set online and downloaded it :P
[19:19] <Symmetria> so much easier 
[19:20] <Symmetria> but I own it, so thats ok 
[19:27] <kbmonkey>  that's a lot of floyd! :D
[19:28] <kbmonkey> +1 for Roger Waters
[19:50] <Symmetria> heh
[19:50] <Symmetria> I found some awesome music 
[19:50] <Symmetria> so I spent 2 much money buying it :P
[19:51] <kbmonkey> look on jamendo.com some great music there! i try donate there when i can.