[03:21] <scott-kernel> persia, i'm having the following lintian error but i am unsure how serious it is given the context
[03:21] <scott-kernel> section-area-mismatch
[03:21] <scott-kernel> i believe this kernel is going into the universe repository
[03:22] <persia> The package shouldn't know which component it will end up in.
[03:22] <scott-kernel> but doesn't the control file dictate this?  in Section:
[03:23] <scott-kernel> if i leave Section: as devel or admin it builds without errors
[03:23] <persia> Ah, right.  You have "universe/foo" in Section:.  It should be "foo".
[03:23] <persia> No, it's dictated by the archive overrides.
[03:23] <scott-kernel> right, but here's the weird part...the kernel builds with universe/devel giving errors and devel not giving errors
[03:23] <scott-kernel> meta is the inverse, where universe/devel doesn't give errors and devel does :/
[03:24] <scott-kernel> ah, "builds" = debuild -S -sa
[03:25] <persia> No control file should ever specify the component.
[03:25] <persia> What errors do you get from the meta?
[03:28] <scott-kernel> sorry, phone call from father
[03:28] <scott-kernel> but i'm back and getting error
[03:29] <scott-kernel> E: linux-meta-lowlatency source: section-area-mismatch Package linux-headers-lowlatency
[03:30] <scott-kernel> E: linux-meta-lowlatency source: section-area-mismatch Package linux-image-lowlatency
[03:30] <scott-kernel> E: linux-meta-lowlatency source: section-area-mismatch Package linux-lowlatency
[03:30] <scott-kernel> E: linux-meta-lowlatency source: section-area-mismatch Package linux-headers-lowlatency-pae
[03:30] <scott-kernel> E: linux-meta-lowlatency source: section-area-mismatch Package linux-image-lowlatency-pae
[03:30] <scott-kernel> E: linux-meta-lowlatency source: section-area-mismatch Package linux-lowlatency-pae
[03:30] <scott-kernel> W: linux-meta-lowlatency source: native-package-with-dash-version
[03:30] <scott-kernel> i'm guessing the last warning isn't a show stopper and have decided to ignore it for the moment as i can't find a way to fix it
[03:31] <scott-kernel> persia, hmmm, i just noticed part of the problem now, it seems that the control file is being built and the packages that are added are being assigned as Section: universe/devel which the package defined in the control.stub is Section: devel
[03:32] <persia> hah!  You found the culprit.
[03:32] <scott-kernel> i presume that i need to look in the rules file then
[03:32] <persia> grep -rin the source for "universe/devel" and change that to "devel" and the error should go away.
[03:32] <persia> I don't believe it's in the rules file, but yeah, if you want to *understand* why it's "universe/devel", the rules file is a good place to start.
[03:33] <scott-kernel> i forget (and tired after six hours of driving today), are the quotes necessary for grep
[03:36] <persia> No, except when you have something you need to quote.
[03:36] <persia> To put that differently, some strings are interpreted by the shell before grep even sees them
[03:36] <persia> So, for example, `grep \\ myfile` and `grep '\' myfile` are the same.
[03:37] <scott-kernel> grep -rin universe/devel
[03:37] <scott-kernel> is that correct? because it seems to be hanging up
[03:37] <persia> Neither really does what you want, because grep then also parses the string.  So to really search for literal '\', you need \\\\ or '\\'.
[03:37] <persia> `grep -rin universe/devel .`
[03:37] <persia> It's waiting for you to give it input, since you didn't specify a location for it to search.
[03:38] <persia> Ctrl-D will tell it you're done giving it input, and it will exit.
[03:38] <persia> The final '.' in my command is the location (current directory)
[03:38] <scott-kernel> okay, found it
[03:40] <scott-kernel> oh, was i correct to ignore the 'native-package-with-dash-version' warning?
[03:41] <persia> Yeah, go ahead and ignore that.
[03:41] <persia> There's reasons it needs the dash, and if I remember correctly, reasons it needs to be native.
[03:45] <ScottL> persia, https://launchpad.net/~slavender/+archive/broken
[03:46] <ScottL> linux-lowlatency should be fine because i had already removed the universe/* and the only warning or error was the native-package-dash warning
[03:46] <ScottL> linux-meta is uploading again, ppa1 was wrong but ppa2 (uploading still) will be correct (again, less the native-package-dash warning)
[03:47] <ScottL> i'm super tired and going to bed
[03:47] <persia> I'm grabbing ~ppa2 for the meta?
[03:47] <ScottL> persia, aye
[03:48] <persia> OK.  I have linux-lowlatency_3.0.0-5.6~ppa1.dsc and linux-meta-lowlatency_3.0.0-5.6~ppa2.dsc
[03:48] <persia> Would you prefer me to review, fix, and upload or review, complain, wait for you?
[03:48] <ScottL> yes, that should be correct
[03:48] <ScottL> be gentle, i expect you to point out lots and lots 'o stuff that i'll need to fix :P
[03:53] <persia> So, which way do you want it?
[03:53] <persia> I can complain a bundle, and you can go fix it.
[03:54] <persia> Or I can upload the package, fixing along the way, and you can see what I changed (and I'll be happy to explain each change)
[03:57] <persia> But do tell me which you want, as it affects when I can do things.
[03:57] <persia> Note that I'm not doing anything too soon, as I'm supposed to leave for a concert in the next (short) while.
[11:52] <ScottL> persia, i suppose it would be easier for you to fix it, however, i expect that it would be a better educational experience if i fixed it
[11:53] <ScottL> so, i think you probably should complain a bundle and let me fix it
[12:01] <ScottL> and i do feel responsible for it
[12:04] <ScottL> ailo_, ping
[12:06] <ScottL> oh, i see the linux-meta didn't build in my ppa either :(
[14:39] <persia> ScottL, Sounds like a plan.  I'll dig into it, and give you a list.
[15:09] <ScottL> persia, did i disappoint you?
[15:09] <persia> No.
[15:10] <persia> I haven't looked at it yet, because I've been away from my computer, and I'm not looking at it now because I'm just checking backscroll before sleeping.
[15:10] <persia> I don't really care which way you'd prefer to deal with the package: the key is that it is the way you believe you learn best.
[15:10] <persia> Some folk prefer to have their problems identified, with suggested ways to find solutions.  Other folk prefer to have solutions demonstrated, with explanations.
[15:11] <persia> As far as I can tell the choice between the two seems to be completely independent of most demographic variables.  I have a suspicion that it's a combination of what their caretakers did when they were three and how they felt about their caretakers.
[15:12] <persia> (but this could be completely wrong)