| didrocks | good morning | 05:06 |
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| didrocks | jo-erlend: hey, do you have a minute? seif and I had some design question for zeitgeist integration and discovering files not opened | 08:53 |
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| didrocks | JohnLea: (sorry jo) ^^ | 09:34 |
| didrocks | Kaleo: hey, snapshot of unity-2d today? | 09:47 |
| Kaleo | didrocks: sure, why not | 10:05 |
| Kaleo | didrocks: going for lunch now, let's talk later | 10:05 |
| didrocks | Kaleo: sure | 10:05 |
| API | njpatel, I have some branches waiting for review | 11:41 |
| API | I pinged lamalex last week but it seems that he forgot that | 11:42 |
| API | you are also assigned, should I assign that to other people? | 11:42 |
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| API | njpatel, lamlex ping: | 13:26 |
| API | <API> njpatel, I have some branches waiting for review | 13:26 |
| API | <API> I pinged lamalex last week but it seems that he forgot that | 13:26 |
| API | <API> you are also assigned, should I assign that to other people? | 13:26 |
| lamlex | API: sorry i ran into massive computer troubles | 13:26 |
| lamlex | i think i've got them sorted but just this morning | 13:26 |
| API | lamlex, no problem, just wanted to know if I should ask for review to other people | 13:27 |
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| jjardon | tedg: Hey, Can I know your opinnion about https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-power/+bug/811777 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-power/+bug/811769 ? | 13:56 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 811777 in indicator-power (Ubuntu) ""Show Percentage Remaining" is more useful than "Show Time Remaining"" [Low,Incomplete] | 13:56 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 811769 in indicator-power (Ubuntu) "Power Menu should respect icon-policy hide setting" [Undecided,New] | 13:56 |
| jjardon | or maybe is better to ask mpt as they are more design questions? | 13:57 |
| tedg | jjardon, So when we have things like that which need design input we add a bug task for "ayatana-design" so that they can prioritize it. | 13:58 |
| tedg | jjardon, So "Also affects project" | 13:58 |
| tedg | I don't think it should hide when full though... that seems like a support call waiting to happen. | 13:59 |
| tedg | And I think we should fix upower to better time instead of going back to percentage. | 13:59 |
| jjardon | tedg: ok, done | 14:00 |
| tedg | But, I'll let mpt have a say on it ;-) | 14:00 |
| jjardon | tedg: about the changes in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Power : any idea how implement the certified or validated thing? Is there a database packaged somewhere with this info? | 14:02 |
| jjardon | Also, I already told mpt that I'm not very sure this is the correct level to achieve this, suspend should work out-of-the-box. If not It's a kernel bug | 14:02 |
| tedg | jjardon, That's a good question. Let me find an answer for you. | 14:03 |
| tedg | jjardon, I think the idea was OEMs and other folks could install a package to change the default value of the DConf key. | 14:03 |
| tedg | jjardon, It is a kernel bug, but unfortunately a reality for many users. | 14:03 |
| jjardon | Maybe is better to simply disable the suspend configuration options if Its not supported by the kernel | 14:04 |
| tedg | jjardon, The problem is that many drivers say they support it and are infact wrong. | 14:04 |
| jjardon | tedg: IMHO hide a bug below a configuration options is not the better aproach | 14:04 |
| tedg | jjardon, I think perhaps we should hide the config if we know it's good... | 14:06 |
| tedg | jjardon, Only provide it on systems that aren't verified to be good. | 14:06 |
| jjardon | tedg: I like more that option | 14:07 |
| tedg | jjardon, Write it up as a bug, and assign ayatana-design ;-) | 14:07 |
| jjardon | tedg: sure, thanks! | 14:08 |
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| MacSlow | ola | 15:14 |
| DBO | API, ping | 15:42 |
| API | DBO, pong | 15:52 |
| API | tell me | 15:52 |
| DBO | API, does the a11y api require that there be a window associated with an object? | 15:52 |
| DBO | so if I wanted alt-tab to be a11y, does it need a window? | 15:52 |
| API | Daviey, well, at this moment I suppose that the objects that get the focus | 15:54 |
| API | ups | 15:54 |
| API | sorry | 15:54 |
| API | DBO, | 15:54 |
| API | at this moment | 15:54 |
| API | the a11y code | 15:54 |
| API | supposed that the objects will be included on a basewindow | 15:55 |
| API | but I didn't check how alt+tab is working | 15:55 |
| DBO | brb | 15:55 |
| API | in fact I thought that this was made by compiz but | 15:55 |
| API | not by unity plugin itself | 15:55 |
| Andy80 | hi :) | 16:04 |
| DBO | API, sorry about that | 16:05 |
| DBO | API, so alt-tab is in a baswindow | 16:06 |
| DBO | but that basewindow does not have a x window associated with it | 16:06 |
| DBO | is that a problem? | 16:06 |
| API | DBO, no | 16:07 |
| API | I don't go to low | 16:08 |
| API | Im trying to use nux as the most low level stuff here | 16:08 |
| API | if there are a nux::basewindow and gets the focus | 16:08 |
| API | it would be ok | 16:08 |
| DBO | API, what about for the input method support? | 16:09 |
| DBO | (I am thinking about dash now) | 16:09 |
| API | dash is using a custom input method ? | 16:09 |
| API | for what? | 16:09 |
| DBO | its not currently | 16:10 |
| DBO | but I assume it would eventually need to use SCIM or whatever is common now | 16:11 |
| API | aha | 16:12 |
| DBO | does that need an x window? | 16:13 |
| API | well, in that case, eventually I would require to check it | 16:13 |
| API | ;) | 16:13 |
| API | but in the case of the key events | 16:13 |
| API | Im also using nux | 16:13 |
| API | and fwiw, one of the pending things that I have in my todo | 16:13 |
| API | in add AtkText and AtkEditable text support on nux textual objects | 16:13 |
| jjardon | tedg: done https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/812394 | 16:14 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 812394 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Disable suspend/hibernate options when they are not supported" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| API | DBO, so, please notify me when if you start to work on the input method stuff | 16:14 |
| API | so I could check that | 16:14 |
| API | and btw, that I already asked that | 16:15 |
| jjardon | tedg: FYI upstream seems to like the idea | 16:15 |
| API | DBO, so now unity itself will take care of the alt-tab stuff? | 16:15 |
| DBO | API, yes | 16:16 |
| API | ok, better | 16:16 |
| API | as in this case I would not need to take care also about compiz stuff | 16:16 |
| mterry | smspillaz, just FYI, that modal-compiz-ldtp question I had on Friday I'm currently pinning on LDTP after finding out it's not directly modal related. I filed a bug, we'll see what they say | 16:17 |
| lamalex | API, i'm reviewing your gconf -> gsettings branch now | 16:29 |
| lamalex | we should file a bug on gsettings to not abort when a freaking schema is missing | 16:30 |
| lamalex | if there already isn't one | 16:30 |
| lamalex | seriously that is rediculous | 16:30 |
| API | lamalex, there are already one bug | 16:31 |
| API | and some weeks ago | 16:31 |
| API | a flame in a mailing list | 16:31 |
| API | I don't remember which one | 16:31 |
| API | probably desktop-devel | 16:31 |
| API | in summary, this is the way to go | 16:31 |
| API | check if the schema are present | 16:32 |
| API | if you want to be sure that _schema_new will not crash | 16:32 |
| API | lamalex, http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2011-May/msg00099.html | 16:33 |
| lamalex | API, +1, merge it up | 16:40 |
| API | lamalex, ok thanks | 16:41 |
| lamalex | API, reviewing the focus branch now | 16:41 |
| API | lamalex, I would prefer if you review the other one | 16:41 |
| API | is really more smaller | 16:42 |
| API | so I could get and answer faster | 16:42 |
| API | and it is a regression | 16:42 |
| lamalex | which other? | 16:42 |
| lamalex | i reviewed the gconf one already | 16:42 |
| API | the focus branch are improvements | 16:42 |
| API | lamalex, https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/bug810045 | 16:42 |
| lamalex | ok | 16:42 |
| lamalex | API, the unity script isn't called by default | 16:43 |
| lamalex | didrocks, am I right on that? ^^^ | 16:43 |
| API | hmm | 16:43 |
| API | so we have a problem here ... | 16:43 |
| lamalex | to save time to avoid python | 16:43 |
| API | so taking into account that we want that env vars properly set | 16:44 |
| API | before running unity | 16:44 |
| didrocks | lamalex: right, it's not called | 16:44 |
| API | where should I set those? | 16:44 |
| API | didrocks, could you take a look to that branch? | 16:44 |
| API | https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro/unity/bug810045 | 16:44 |
| didrocks | looking, one sec | 16:44 |
| lamalex | API, it wasn't working the other way? | 16:44 |
| API | if I can't do that on the unity script not sure where I should do that | 16:45 |
| API | lamalex, what means the other way? | 16:45 |
| API | without that branch? | 16:45 |
| lamalex | the current way | 16:45 |
| lamalex | in the code | 16:45 |
| API | lamalex, the current way is | 16:45 |
| didrocks | API: why do you need those env var? | 16:45 |
| API | on the unityshell initialization code | 16:45 |
| API | didrocks, because if not | 16:45 |
| API | when calling gtk_init | 16:46 |
| API | that now seems to be called before unity plugin | 16:46 |
| API | gtk_init will load a11y modules | 16:46 |
| lamalex | ahh | 16:46 |
| API | that means that the atk-bridge would | 16:46 |
| API | be using | 16:46 |
| API | a wrong atk implementation for some methods | 16:46 |
| API | those envvars are a hack added to solve the same problem with firefox | 16:47 |
| lamalex | yah | 16:47 |
| lamalex | i remember this from when i was assigned to a11y | 16:47 |
| API | they just said to the bridge to not be loaded | 16:47 |
| didrocks | API: we can distro-patch compiz to set those env if we always need them | 16:47 |
| lamalex | so where is gtk_init now? it was moved into its own plugin but i thought that was cancelled | 16:47 |
| didrocks | in compiz | 16:48 |
| API | didrocks, so right now is compiz itself the one calling gtk_init? | 16:48 |
| didrocks | API: exactly | 16:48 |
| API | hmm, yes that was I fear | 16:48 |
| API | lamalex, yes I saw that gtkloader plugin | 16:48 |
| API | I also tried there but no luck | 16:48 |
| API | didrocks, but now compiz made a call to gtk_init? | 16:48 |
| API | it is a upstream change or just for unity sake? | 16:48 |
| lamalex | smspillaz, ^ | 16:49 |
| didrocks | API: it's done for unity | 16:49 |
| didrocks | API: you have unity dep on a new plugin | 16:49 |
| didrocks | but compiz isn't able on upgrade to check dependencies | 16:49 |
| didrocks | and to load the new plugin | 16:49 |
| didrocks | so, it will just segfault… | 16:49 |
| didrocks | the call to gtk_init is just a hack until compiz can handle plugins properly… | 16:49 |
| API | didrocks, but this is a temporal workaround or other solution is planned? | 16:49 |
| API | that answer my question | 16:50 |
| didrocks | hopefully, we will be able to use the additional plugin for oneiric | 16:50 |
| didrocks | API: so, I can add them to compiz right now | 16:50 |
| API | didrocks, I can do that if you want | 16:50 |
| API | but as you see, it is just set those envvars | 16:50 |
| API | before gtk_init | 16:51 |
| didrocks | API: I'm doing the compiz update, so no worry, will do it ;) | 16:51 |
| lamalex | API, ok so im going to reject this proposal | 16:51 |
| lamalex | API, do you want me to review the focus branch? | 16:51 |
| API | lamalex, ok, yes reject that proposal | 16:53 |
| API | lamalex, yes please review that focus branch | 16:53 |
| API | sorry, it is really long | 16:53 |
| API | didrocks, so I need to assign that bug to compiz? | 16:53 |
| didrocks | API: yes please, compiz + assign to me, I'll do it with the update tomorrow | 16:53 |
| API | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/810045 | 16:53 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 810045 in unity "[a11y] Key events are not being emitted (Oneiric regression)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:53 |
| API | didrocks, if I search for compiz, the first item is 0.9.5, it is correcT? | 16:55 |
| didrocks | API: it is :) | 16:55 |
| API | didrocks, ok, done, you have now a new bug ;) | 16:56 |
| didrocks | API: heh, excellent, thanks ;) | 16:56 |
| API | didrocks, thanks to you | 16:56 |
| API | but definitively we need to find a way to manage multi-toolkit environments without nasty hacks | 16:57 |
| API | but that would required to wait for atk-3 | 16:58 |
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| htorque | hello everyone! is it unity or compiz that's responsible for restoring a window when double-clicking the top panel? | 20:53 |
| thumper | htorque: probably unity | 21:01 |
| htorque | thumper: thanks, that was my guess too. | 21:02 |
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