bambee | morning | 07:14 |
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bambee | WTF? http://paste.ubuntu.com/646270/ o_O | 07:32 |
bambee | well, install libxine-dev solved the problem | 07:34 |
shadeslayer | agateau: thx :) | 09:58 |
shadeslayer | Riddell: poke | 10:03 |
Riddell | ouch | 10:03 |
shadeslayer | :) | 10:03 |
shadeslayer | libindi upstream is weird | 10:03 |
Riddell | I did warn you | 10:03 |
shadeslayer | the PPA has indi apogee v1.2 but i can't find the clean sources | 10:03 |
shadeslayer | the sf page has v1.1 | 10:04 |
Riddell | right, he hasn't released half the stuff | 10:04 |
didrocks | hey, does kdebase-workspace needs to be updated? 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu4 can't be installed with libksignalplotter4 (kde-workspace) 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu2 | 10:05 |
Riddell | he's usually responsive to e-mail if you want to contact him, but that doesn't mean he'll do anything | 10:05 |
shadeslayer | yeah already did, lets see what happens now :) | 10:08 |
debfx | didrocks: it needs to be turned into a transitional package for kde-workspace | 10:29 |
didrocks | debfx: oh ok, and what should replace kdebase-workspace-dev ? | 10:40 |
didrocks | I bet kde-workspace-dev :) | 10:40 |
debfx | indeed :) | 10:41 |
apachelogger | rbelem: any news on whether grob is going to be open source? | 10:42 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: did we land qtwebkit2whatever in oneiric yet? | 10:43 |
* apachelogger has 500 qtcreators installed -.- | 10:44 | |
jussi | apachelogger: congratulations, there isnt a me menu in Ubuntu anymore :P http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/ubuntu-11-10-menu-goodbye/ | 10:46 |
apachelogger | yeah, it was a terrible thing to begin with :P | 10:47 |
apachelogger | I am not sure making a monster sized messaging menu is a good idea though | 10:47 |
* apachelogger plays with phon while he installs qtcreator #501 | 10:47 | |
jussi | apachelogger: you are the phonon/sound person... is it possible to use bluetooth phone headsets with kubuntu? does the sound work? | 11:05 |
apachelogger | guess so | 11:05 |
apachelogger | I do not have one | 11:06 |
apachelogger | PA takes care of that | 11:06 |
jussi | oh. ok then... /goes to play a little more | 11:09 |
apachelogger | jussi: I guess bluedevil will help with setting it up | 11:10 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: iDunno, having a look now | 11:30 |
jussi | shadeslayer: is that a new device or service form apple? iDunno ?:P | 11:35 |
shadeslayer | could be, iDunno :P | 11:36 |
jussi | heh | 11:36 |
debfx | didrocks: you don't happen to be interested in maintaining qtwebkit? :p | 11:37 |
didrocks | debfx: not a question of interest, more a question of time ;) | 11:38 |
debfx | didrocks: but it's really worth the time! you even get to generate your own tarballs, which of course don't work without patching the buildsystem first | 11:55 |
didrocks | debfx: sounds so attractive… I have my own nice upstream for that already :) | 11:57 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: debfx Riddell re:libindi , can we allow upstream sources in the archive if there was no proper upstream release and the sources were downloaded from a PPA? | 12:18 |
Riddell | shadeslayer: yes but you need to make sure the licencing is ok (his often isn't) and it has a sensible version number and that it's actually sensible to release (maybe it's full of bugs) | 12:30 |
rbelem | apachelogger, no idea yet :-( | 12:31 |
rbelem | apachelogger, i will check that | 12:32 |
apachelogger | rbelem: kthx | 12:32 |
apachelogger | rbelem: really awesome thing | 12:35 |
apachelogger | would love ot have it on kubuntu mobile :D | 12:35 |
rbelem | a really good browser :-) and it is using qtwebkit | 12:37 |
apachelogger | jus | 12:39 |
shadeslayer | hmm | 12:39 |
apachelogger | hence I want shadeslayer to push whatever qtwebkit we need to oneiric :P | 12:39 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: i need to finish libindi first | 12:39 |
apachelogger | kk | 12:39 |
apachelogger | rbelem: got the n950 today | 12:40 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: pics :D | 12:40 |
rbelem | apachelogger, nice :-) | 12:40 |
apachelogger | rbelem: do you happen to know whether the player is made using qtmmkit? | 12:40 |
apachelogger | cause it can't even do 720p | 12:40 |
rbelem | apachelogger, it is using mafw | 12:40 |
apachelogger | in 2007 or something the first omap3s were able to do 720p IIRC, so that is a bit scary | 12:40 |
rbelem | apachelogger, which uses gsteamer | 12:41 |
apachelogger | odd enough then | 12:41 |
apachelogger | I have seen some videowidget stuff for meego some time ago, that had generally sane code | 12:41 |
apachelogger | anyhow | 12:42 |
apachelogger | I am bringing vlc to the phone, so screw that stinky old player :P | 12:42 |
rbelem | vlc rulez | 12:42 |
apachelogger | oh yes it does | 12:43 |
rbelem | i think they should invest more time to improve multimedia in qt than in mafw | 12:46 |
shadeslayer | mafw? | 12:47 |
rbelem | it is a maemo thing to takecare of multimedia | 12:48 |
shadeslayer | ah | 12:48 |
shadeslayer | ~np | 12:48 |
kubotu | shadeslayer_ hasn't played anything recently | 12:48 |
shadeslayer | seems last.fm db's are down or sth | 12:48 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: mafw essentially does maemo device optamized pipeline building IIRC | 12:49 |
shadeslayer | pipeline what | 12:49 |
apachelogger | rbelem: for all I care they should throw away qtmmkit and use the superior solution :P | 12:49 |
shadeslayer | you forget that i'm a maemo/meego newb | 12:49 |
apachelogger | rbelem: last I checked qtmmkit did not take openmax into account | 12:50 |
apachelogger | so gstreamer had everything nicely in the graphics memory and then qtmmkit came along and dragged it into system memory, only to upload it to graphics memory again | 12:50 |
apachelogger | mm could do with some love in qt | 12:51 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: dude, pipelien architecture? | 12:51 |
apachelogger | common in graphics/video/audio processing? :P | 12:51 |
shadeslayer | dunno | 12:51 |
shadeslayer | this the first time i heard about it :) | 12:52 |
apachelogger | :O | 12:52 |
apachelogger | I wonder what you learn for your exams | 12:52 |
rbelem | apachelogger, do you know if qtmmkit or related thing needs maintainer? | 12:52 |
apachelogger | no idea | 12:52 |
apachelogger | phonon can use hackers ^^ | 12:52 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: i learn about Radios and other electronicy stuff | 12:52 |
* apachelogger loves to have minions :D | 12:52 | |
rbelem | thiago post in his blog something about this | 12:53 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: really boring | 12:53 |
rbelem | apachelogger, i'm a minion of afiestas :-) | 12:54 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: sometimes, yes | 12:54 |
* rbelem pokes afiestas | 12:54 | |
apachelogger | :D | 12:54 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: btw am i still your minion? | 12:55 |
shadeslayer | or was i relieved of those duties? | 12:56 |
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rbelem | apachelogger, afiestas and me were reviewing the priorities of filesharing | 12:57 |
yofel | bambee: If you're already doing RC2, can you *please* say that on the wiki? and update meta-kde | 13:00 |
bambee | yofel: sure | 13:02 |
yofel | bambee: no wait, don't, I can't finish perlqt when you do that, can you take a look at korundum rc1 instead? | 13:03 |
bambee | I replace the existing entry for kde 4.6.90 or I add another one ? (on the wiki) | 13:03 |
yofel | bambee: scroll down ;) | 13:03 |
bambee | korundum rc1? | 13:03 |
bambee | ok | 13:03 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: dunno, depends on whether you plan on becomming a being of consciousness alone | 13:04 |
bambee | yofel: so I just look at korundum rc1 for now? | 13:04 |
yofel | if they do the tagging on the 20th, we have 2 days to make sure the licensing is right, which for the bindings is mostly not true | 13:04 |
yofel | bambee: yes | 13:04 |
bambee | ack | 13:04 |
yofel | bambee: bah, I got confused, I meant kimono | 13:04 |
yofel | I did korundum | 13:05 |
bambee | ok | 13:05 |
bambee | In fact I thought that the section for kde 4.6.95 was not on the wiki yet :) | 13:06 |
yofel | I moved it down since we're not done with RC1 | 13:07 |
bambee | yofel: wiki updated, working on kimono | 13:08 |
yofel | perlqt is another license nightmare :( | 13:17 |
bambee | yofel: it's a new package or it has been splited ? (kimono) | 13:18 |
bambee | splitted* | 13:19 |
yofel | kimono is from kdebindings (kde bindings for c#) | 13:19 |
bambee | ok | 13:19 |
yofel | shadeslayer: gwenview copyright is fixed | 13:37 |
shadeslayer | yus :) | 13:38 |
shadeslayer | i'm looking at it :) | 13:38 |
yofel | anyone an idea wth. the Perl Artistic License 1.0 is? ^^ | 13:39 |
shadeslayer | i've heard of artistic license's ... never seen one | 13:39 |
yofel | ah, the dep5 page says to use 'GPL-1+ or Artistic-1' instead, fun | 13:41 |
bambee | the mono packages for kimono are: plasma-scriptengine-kimono kio-monodoc libkimono-cil-dev libqyoto-cil-dev qyoto-dev ? | 13:41 |
agateau | yofel: http://dev.perl.org/licenses/artistic.html | 13:41 |
bambee | (I am not sure.. I don't know these packages :\) | 13:41 |
yofel | agateau: thanks | 13:42 |
yofel | can someone open the license links on http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ btw.? http://spdx.org/licenses/Artistic-1.0 for example shows as XHTML source here, not the page | 13:42 |
CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Rohan Garg * 7 * debian/ (control copyright gwenview.install) * Add GFDL licensing for docs | 13:51 |
ulysses | o.o there are zombie 29 process of kded4 | 13:55 |
yofel | shadeslayer: can you take a quick look if I made any syntax errors? I've a headache by now... http://paste.kde.org/98251/ | 14:00 |
Quintasan | yofel: Is wiki up-to-date regarding 4.6.95? | 14:14 |
yofel | should be | 14:14 |
yofel | any idea what happened to kate? | 14:14 |
Quintasan | *shrug* | 14:15 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: | 14:15 |
Quintasan | ^^ | 14:15 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: its in bzr | 14:21 |
shadeslayer | needs upload | 14:21 |
shadeslayer | yofel: looking | 14:21 |
bambee | did someone already do mono packaging ? ^^ | 14:22 |
shadeslayer | yofel: isn't the license part supposed to have 2 spaces in the beginning? i see just one | 14:22 |
shadeslayer | apart from that looks good | 14:23 |
shadeslayer | yofel: oh, no email address of copyright holders | 14:24 |
yofel | bambee: talk to Quintasan | 14:24 |
yofel | shadeslayer: I don't see anything about spaces in the dep5 spec | 14:24 |
bambee | Quintasan: ^ | 14:24 |
yofel | I'll see if I can find the mails... | 14:24 |
Quintasan | bambee: Not done yet. | 14:24 |
bambee | ^^ | 14:24 |
shadeslayer | and "2008 by Richard Dale" should be "2008, Richard Dale <emailaddy>" | 14:25 |
shadeslayer | yofel: hmm, no idea then, i've always used 2 spaces | 14:25 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: kate and gwenview need uploading | 14:25 |
Quintasan | gwenview -> cannot go into archive?: docs have no license at all it appears | 14:26 |
Quintasan | is that fixed? | 14:26 |
shadeslayer | yus | 14:26 |
shadeslayer | bah, agateau forgot to place COPYING.DOC | 14:27 |
agateau | shadeslayer: other projects do not have one | 14:27 |
agateau | shadeslayer: so I cargo-culted them | 14:27 |
shadeslayer | agateau: then they are broken, we need full license text afaik | 14:28 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: I bet you repacked the tarball, did you? | 14:28 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: don't remember | 14:28 |
* shadeslayer looks | 14:28 | |
Quintasan | ofc | 14:28 |
shadeslayer | doesn't look like it | 14:28 |
yofel | k, fixed, now to figure out what license copies are missing | 14:28 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: Am I getting a fixed tarball or repacked one? | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | depends on agateau | 14:29 |
agateau | Quintasan: ok, at least konsole does not have one, I can add a COPYING.DOC, no pb | 14:29 |
shadeslayer | uh dude | 14:30 |
Quintasan | agateau: Thanks, that makes mine and ScottK's life easier | 14:30 |
shadeslayer | agateau: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdebase/konsole/repository/revisions/master/entry/COPYING.DOC | 14:30 |
yofel | uh, for GPL-1+ or Artistic is it enough to add GPL-2, or -1, or both? | 14:30 |
Quintasan | I would add 1 | 14:30 |
Quintasan | and mention that later version can be found the in the same directory as -1 | 14:31 |
agateau | shadeslayer: oh... it got added after my last update | 14:31 |
* agateau is ashamed | 14:31 | |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: How do we get a new tarball? | 14:32 |
yofel | Quintasan: this is about the full license copies | 14:32 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: we just repack the tarball | 14:32 |
Quintasan | Oh | 14:32 |
Quintasan | Add -1 then | 14:32 |
yofel | do I need to add Artistic too? This perl licensing is confusing | 14:33 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: one sec | 14:33 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: Do it, and don't forget to fix changelog | 14:33 |
agateau | mmm... should i use FDL 1.2 or 1.3 | 14:33 |
* agateau hates licenses | 14:33 | |
yofel | agateau: 1.2 | 14:33 |
shadeslayer | agateau: afaik its 1.2 | 14:33 |
agateau | ok | 14:33 |
Quintasan | yofel: I'd add Artistic too | 14:34 |
Quintasan | Better safe than sorry and ~10kb more or less won't make a difference | 14:34 |
yofel | Quintasan: then this'll be fun, now there's a LICENSE. I'll need to add LICENSE.GPL-3, .GPL-1, .LGPL, .Artistic | 14:34 |
Quintasan | Gotta love policy <3 | 14:34 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: ping me when done | 14:35 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: also, upload to ninjas | 14:35 |
shadeslayer | kwait | 14:35 |
agateau | ok, COPYING.DOC added to gwenview master and KDE/4.7 | 14:35 |
shadeslayer | :D | 14:35 |
Quintasan | agateau: Thanks | 14:35 |
CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Rohan Garg * 8 * debian/changelog Repack gwenview tarball with GFDL 1.2 licensing | 14:36 |
Quintasan | debfx: Are you planning on merging Qt from Debian anytime soon? | 14:37 |
debfx | Quintasan: is there anything to merge? | 14:38 |
Quintasan | debfx: I think they split -dbg stuff | 14:39 |
shadeslayer | Quintasan: done | 14:41 |
shadeslayer | should arrive in the PPA in a couple of minutes | 14:42 |
shadeslayer | debfx: kate is done as well right? | 14:42 |
debfx | Quintasan: we've already merged that | 14:43 |
debfx | shadeslayer: yes, but it's still in NEW | 14:43 |
Quintasan | debfx: Cool | 14:43 |
shadeslayer | uh, you uploaded that? | 14:43 |
* Quintasan looks at shadeslayer and points him to wiki | 14:43 | |
shadeslayer | i didn't know debfx uploaded kate | 14:44 |
Quintasan | Now you know | 14:44 |
shadeslayer | yus, fixing, what color did we use for NEW? | 14:44 |
Quintasan | no idea | 14:44 |
Quintasan | ScottK: Can you accept kate? | 14:45 |
shadeslayer | since i'm not patching a package, can i use the native source format? | 14:48 |
yofel | you don't have an orig.tar ? | 14:49 |
shadeslayer | i do | 14:49 |
yofel | then please use 3.0 quilt | 14:49 |
shadeslayer | oh, so we use native when we don't have a tar? | 14:50 |
yofel | yep, guess why it's called native | 14:50 |
shadeslayer | i thought native was used when you don't modify any upstream file | 14:50 |
ScottK | Will look shortly. | 14:50 |
* yofel hands shadeslayer the dpkg-source manpage | 14:51 | |
shadeslayer | yeah was already looking at that and DebianMentorsfaq | 14:51 |
shadeslayer | ah hmm | 14:52 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: native is used when we are upstream | 14:53 |
shadeslayer | like debian is upstream to us? | 14:54 |
Quintasan | !find autoreconf.mk | 14:54 |
Quintasan | !info /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/autoreconf.mk | 14:54 |
ubottu | File autoreconf.mk found in dh-autoreconf | 14:54 |
ubottu | Package usrsharecdbs1rulesautoreconf.mk does not exist in natty | 14:54 |
yofel | ScottK: got a minute? If this is the licensing: http://paste.kde.org/98269 - what license copies *have* to be in the source? | 15:03 |
yofel | currently there's only a LICENSE file with the GPL-2 in it | 15:03 |
ScottK | yofel: Since GPL-2 is GPL-1 or later that's legal, but it should have Artistic and GPL-1 in it. | 15:05 |
* yofel goes adding 4 copies then after all.. | 15:07 | |
shadeslayer | could someone also review the 2 indi packages in the ninjas ppa? | 15:25 |
bambee | well, sorry but I think that I am the wrong person to package kimono... I know nothing about mono and mono packaging... these packages rules will just be ugly o_O | 15:27 |
shadeslayer | wohoo : http://paste.kde.org/98287/ : indi-maxdomeii is broken | 15:32 |
shadeslayer | lolwot (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' | 15:34 |
yofel | did you use gcc on a c++ file? | 15:34 |
shadeslayer | seems the build system did | 15:34 |
yofel | hm, no, it used c++ | 15:35 |
yofel | freaky failure | 15:35 |
shadeslayer | yeah | 15:35 |
shadeslayer | i've already emailed the maintainer, lets see what happens | 15:35 |
shadeslayer | i already had to patch the CMake file | 15:36 |
apachelogger | /scratchbox/tools/bin/chown: changing ownership of `/usr/local/share/emacs': Operation not permitted | 15:40 |
* apachelogger waves fist a bit | 15:40 | |
shadeslayer | i thought you were a vim guy | 15:40 |
apachelogger | cmake looses emacsen-common for good knows what | 15:41 |
apachelogger | perhaps ccmake | 15:41 |
shadeslayer | indi-spectracyber ... funky name | 15:42 |
yofel | apachelogger: you're not trying to debootstrap oneiric are you? ^^ | 15:42 |
apachelogger | no | 15:42 |
yofel | hm | 15:42 |
apachelogger | I blame it all on scratchbox | 15:43 |
CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (32 files in 4 dirs) Add perlqt packaging | 15:46 |
shadeslayer | whoa :D | 15:47 |
apachelogger | this is mad, nothing but mad | 15:47 |
yofel | shadeslayer: 20 install files :P | 15:48 |
shadeslayer | brb after dinner | 15:51 |
CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) resync with debian | 15:57 |
apachelogger | [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~/cmake-2.8.5] > gcc cmake_bootstrap_10824_test.c -o cmake_bootstrap_10824_test | 15:59 |
apachelogger | [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~/cmake-2.8.5] > ./cmake_bootstrap_10824_test | 15:59 |
apachelogger | bash: ./cmake_bootstrap_10824_test: No such file or directory | 15:59 |
apachelogger | srsly | 15:59 |
CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/changelog Repack tarball to include missing license copies | 16:01 |
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CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control copyright rules) resync with debian and repackage to include missing license copies | 16:25 |
shadeslayer | even more fun http://paste.kde.org/98365 | 16:28 |
yofel | well, autotools | 16:30 |
ScottK | Quintasan: What's the license for part/syntax/data/find-trivial-regexpr.sh in kate? | 16:32 |
Quintasan | shadeslayer: ^ | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | yeah already looking | 16:33 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: i'd say GPL2 for anything thats explicitly missing a copyright | 16:34 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: That's not how it works. | 16:34 |
ScottK | Was that file writte for Kate (then maybe) or copied from elsewhere? | 16:34 |
shadeslayer | hmm .... will ask the copyright holder | 16:35 |
ScottK | part/script/katescriptview.h is GPL 2 or 3. | 16:36 |
ScottK | Missing from debian/copyright | 16:36 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: looks like LGPL 2.1+ to me | 16:38 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: On what basis? | 16:38 |
shadeslayer | " ... of the GNU Library General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation ... " | 16:39 |
shadeslayer | but then there's also " ... version 2 of the License, or (at your option) version 3." | 16:40 |
ScottK | shadeslayer: Which file are you on? | 16:40 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: part/script/katescriptview.h | 16:41 |
ScottK | Right LGPL versus GPL. | 16:41 |
ScottK | But it's not 2.1+ | 16:41 |
ScottK | It's 2.1 or 3. | 16:41 |
shadeslayer | there's a LGPL v3 ? | 16:41 |
ScottK | I theoretical LGPL 4 would not be allowed. | 16:41 |
ScottK | Yes. | 16:41 |
shadeslayer | ok i didn't know that, which is why i said 2.1+ | 16:42 |
ScottK | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.txt | 16:42 |
ScottK | Regardless, 2.1 or 3 is not the same as 2.1+ | 16:43 |
CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokekde] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) resync with debian and repack tarball to include missing license copies | 16:43 |
shadeslayer | right | 16:43 |
shadeslayer | ScottK: anything apart from that? | 16:48 |
ScottK | That's all I found looking at licensing. I didn't look at packaging yet. | 16:51 |
shadeslayer | alright, i'll try and fix this tomorrow | 16:53 |
bambee | btw: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/68176 | 17:02 |
bambee | https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers/+merge/68175 :) | 17:02 |
apachelogger | [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~] > cmake | 17:06 |
apachelogger | bash: /usr/bin/cmake: No such file or directory | 17:06 |
apachelogger | this is absolutely kaputt | 17:06 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: question, how does one use qVariantFromValue in pyth0rn? | 17:42 |
apachelogger | dude | 17:43 |
apachelogger | pyth0rn | 17:43 |
shadeslayer | yus, i need pyth0rn this time | 17:43 |
apachelogger | dude | 17:43 |
apachelogger | pyth0rn | 17:43 |
apachelogger | what the heck makes you think I'd know that kinda stuff about the pyth0rns? | 17:44 |
apachelogger | like srsly | 17:44 |
shadeslayer | so you don't? | 17:45 |
apachelogger | course not | 17:45 |
* apachelogger is busy with pyside anyway :P | 17:46 | |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: is pyside better or pyQt? | 17:47 |
apachelogger | define bettar | 17:47 |
shadeslayer | i need better QML integration | 17:47 |
shadeslayer | so whichever has better QML support | 17:47 |
apachelogger | qml support? | 17:48 |
apachelogger | what you mean? | 17:48 |
apachelogger | qml is a language of its own | 17:48 |
apachelogger | hence the L in there :P | 17:48 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/98389 << i'm doing that | 17:49 |
shadeslayer | currently segfaults :P | 17:49 |
apachelogger | why? | 17:50 |
apachelogger | ah, nvm, I really dont want to know | 17:50 |
shadeslayer | but anyways, i need better QGV support | 17:50 |
shadeslayer | its just a prototype ... | 17:50 |
apachelogger | thy shalt not think about QGV | 17:50 |
apachelogger | everything you do with QGV is going to go to shit once Qt 5 and superior QGS is out | 17:51 |
apachelogger | anyhow | 17:51 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: prototypes be better done in cpp | 17:51 |
apachelogger | with qmake | 17:51 |
apachelogger | mhhh qmake :D | 17:51 |
shadeslayer | heh | 17:51 |
* apachelogger ponders migrating all of phonon to qmake | 17:51 | |
shadeslayer | if thats the case, i vote to drop phonon | 17:52 |
shadeslayer | :P | 17:52 |
apachelogger | you just dunno how to use qmake proper | 17:52 |
* apachelogger is using it for libcutevlc | 17:52 | |
shadeslayer | uh-huh, try saying that after you look through qt script generator | 17:53 |
apachelogger | shoot | 17:53 |
apachelogger | /home/me/phonon-gstreamer-4.5.55/gstreamer/videodataoutput.h:48: Error: Undefined interface | 17:53 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: dude, just tell me how to use qVariantfromValue and then i can go to sleep | 17:54 |
shadeslayer | the docs are shot on how to use it | 17:54 |
tsimpson | it's a "shortcut" for QVariant::fromValue() | 17:55 |
apachelogger | lazy sill person http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyqt-pykde/4581 | 17:55 |
shadeslayer | well, yes, but how do i calll that method in python? qVariantfromvalue didn't work | 17:55 |
tsimpson | try QVariant.fromValue(foo)? | 17:55 |
shadeslayer | AttributeError: type object 'QVariant' has no attribute 'fromValue' | 17:56 |
apachelogger | READDDDSG | 17:56 |
* apachelogger chops of his fist and throws it after shadeslayer | 17:56 | |
tsimpson | yes, constructors are a good thing | 17:56 |
apachelogger | -> building more debs for harmattan | 17:56 |
* tsimpson wonders if the C++ -> Python code style in PyQt is really a good thing | 17:57 | |
apachelogger | pyside is coming anyway | 17:57 |
tsimpson | isn't it supposed to be very similar to PyQt? | 17:58 |
tsimpson | I think I even read it was mostly API compatible (besides imports) | 17:58 |
apachelogger | except it is lgpl | 17:58 |
tsimpson | well that's the only reason it exists | 17:58 |
apachelogger | big reason for all I care | 17:59 |
tsimpson | I don't see it as a huge issue, but I'm not Nokia | 18:00 |
* apachelogger wonders why his phonon must be so broken | 18:00 | |
apachelogger | tsimpson: libraries should not be gpl, not ever | 18:00 |
tsimpson | go tell GNU that | 18:00 |
apachelogger | GNU clearly is not anywhere close to world domination... :P | 18:01 |
tsimpson | when people get curious about (L)GPL, they google and get the the FAQ, which gently informs you that the LGPL is evil except for the C library... | 18:01 |
apachelogger | which makes the educated reader wonder why it is ok for the c lib :P | 18:02 |
tsimpson | so everyone can be forced to use the GNU libc, of course | 18:04 |
tsimpson | and because, even GNU knows, people want paid-for software to *WORK* | 18:05 |
apachelogger | so why can I not force everyone to use a cute pyth0rn? :P | 18:05 |
shadeslayer | bwhahaha program crashes at view.setSource | 18:07 |
shadeslayer | great | 18:07 |
apachelogger | while shadeslayer was playing around with pyth0rn I'd had finished the prototype in cpp and played a round of dungeons and dragons | 18:08 |
shadeslayer | uh huh | 18:08 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: you are supreme h4xor | 18:08 |
shadeslayer | interestingly it works with pyside | 18:13 |
shadeslayer | http://i.imgur.com/X40Oh.png | 18:14 |
shadeslayer | pyside++ | 18:14 |
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debfx | shadeslayer: the repacked gwenview tarball needs to have this commit applied: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=gwenview.git&a=commitdiff&h=2b7ad82d680d4bed9ea984a3644844f8d79edba9 | 20:09 |
yofel_ | apachelogger: you tell them: kde bug 277833 | 20:51 |
ubottu | KDE bug 277833 in general "okularApplication_mobi desktop from mobipocket should use TryExec now that it's not shipped together with okular " [Normal,Resolved: invalid] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277833 | 20:51 |
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apachelogger | yofel: if I were to comment it would not ever get fixed | 20:59 |
apachelogger | yofel: you might want to explain that this is a distro pov | 20:59 |
apachelogger | though his argument is completely valid from a KDE POV | 20:59 |
apachelogger | there is no reason why not to add it to make distro life easier | 20:59 |
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