[07:14] morning [07:32] WTF? http://paste.ubuntu.com/646270/ o_O [07:34] well, install libxine-dev solved the problem [09:58] agateau: thx :) [10:03] Riddell: poke [10:03] ouch [10:03] :) [10:03] libindi upstream is weird [10:03] I did warn you [10:03] the PPA has indi apogee v1.2 but i can't find the clean sources [10:04] the sf page has v1.1 [10:04] right, he hasn't released half the stuff [10:05] hey, does kdebase-workspace needs to be updated? 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu4 can't be installed with libksignalplotter4 (kde-workspace) 4:4.6.90-0ubuntu2 [10:05] he's usually responsive to e-mail if you want to contact him, but that doesn't mean he'll do anything [10:08] yeah already did, lets see what happens now :) [10:29] didrocks: it needs to be turned into a transitional package for kde-workspace [10:40] debfx: oh ok, and what should replace kdebase-workspace-dev ? [10:40] I bet kde-workspace-dev :) [10:41] indeed :) [10:42] rbelem: any news on whether grob is going to be open source? [10:43] shadeslayer: did we land qtwebkit2whatever in oneiric yet? [10:44] * apachelogger has 500 qtcreators installed -.- [10:46] apachelogger: congratulations, there isnt a me menu in Ubuntu anymore :P http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/ubuntu-11-10-menu-goodbye/ [10:47] yeah, it was a terrible thing to begin with :P [10:47] I am not sure making a monster sized messaging menu is a good idea though [10:47] * apachelogger plays with phon while he installs qtcreator #501 [11:05] apachelogger: you are the phonon/sound person... is it possible to use bluetooth phone headsets with kubuntu? does the sound work? [11:05] guess so [11:06] I do not have one [11:06] PA takes care of that [11:09] oh. ok then... /goes to play a little more [11:10] jussi: I guess bluedevil will help with setting it up [11:30] apachelogger: iDunno, having a look now [11:35] shadeslayer: is that a new device or service form apple? iDunno ?:P [11:36] could be, iDunno :P [11:36] heh [11:37] didrocks: you don't happen to be interested in maintaining qtwebkit? :p [11:38] debfx: not a question of interest, more a question of time ;) [11:55] didrocks: but it's really worth the time! you even get to generate your own tarballs, which of course don't work without patching the buildsystem first [11:57] debfx: sounds so attractive… I have my own nice upstream for that already :) [12:18] apachelogger: debfx Riddell re:libindi , can we allow upstream sources in the archive if there was no proper upstream release and the sources were downloaded from a PPA? [12:30] shadeslayer: yes but you need to make sure the licencing is ok (his often isn't) and it has a sensible version number and that it's actually sensible to release (maybe it's full of bugs) [12:31] apachelogger, no idea yet :-( [12:32] apachelogger, i will check that [12:32] rbelem: kthx [12:35] rbelem: really awesome thing [12:35] would love ot have it on kubuntu mobile :D [12:37] a really good browser :-) and it is using qtwebkit [12:39] jus [12:39] hmm [12:39] hence I want shadeslayer to push whatever qtwebkit we need to oneiric :P [12:39] apachelogger: i need to finish libindi first [12:39] kk [12:40] rbelem: got the n950 today [12:40] apachelogger: pics :D [12:40] apachelogger, nice :-) [12:40] rbelem: do you happen to know whether the player is made using qtmmkit? [12:40] cause it can't even do 720p [12:40] apachelogger, it is using mafw [12:40] in 2007 or something the first omap3s were able to do 720p IIRC, so that is a bit scary [12:41] apachelogger, which uses gsteamer [12:41] odd enough then [12:41] I have seen some videowidget stuff for meego some time ago, that had generally sane code [12:42] anyhow [12:42] I am bringing vlc to the phone, so screw that stinky old player :P [12:42] vlc rulez [12:43] oh yes it does [12:46] i think they should invest more time to improve multimedia in qt than in mafw [12:47] mafw? [12:48] it is a maemo thing to takecare of multimedia [12:48] ah [12:48] ~np [12:48] shadeslayer_ hasn't played anything recently [12:48] seems last.fm db's are down or sth [12:49] shadeslayer: mafw essentially does maemo device optamized pipeline building IIRC [12:49] pipeline what [12:49] rbelem: for all I care they should throw away qtmmkit and use the superior solution :P [12:49] you forget that i'm a maemo/meego newb [12:50] rbelem: last I checked qtmmkit did not take openmax into account [12:50] so gstreamer had everything nicely in the graphics memory and then qtmmkit came along and dragged it into system memory, only to upload it to graphics memory again [12:51] mm could do with some love in qt [12:51] shadeslayer: dude, pipelien architecture? [12:51] common in graphics/video/audio processing? :P [12:51] dunno [12:52] this the first time i heard about it :) [12:52] :O [12:52] I wonder what you learn for your exams [12:52] apachelogger, do you know if qtmmkit or related thing needs maintainer? [12:52] no idea [12:52] phonon can use hackers ^^ [12:52] apachelogger: i learn about Radios and other electronicy stuff [12:52] * apachelogger loves to have minions :D [12:53] thiago post in his blog something about this [12:53] shadeslayer: really boring [12:54] apachelogger, i'm a minion of afiestas :-) [12:54] apachelogger: sometimes, yes [12:54] * rbelem pokes afiestas [12:54] :D [12:55] apachelogger: btw am i still your minion? [12:56] or was i relieved of those duties? === ximion1 is now known as ximion [12:57] apachelogger, afiestas and me were reviewing the priorities of filesharing [13:00] bambee: If you're already doing RC2, can you *please* say that on the wiki? and update meta-kde [13:02] yofel: sure [13:03] bambee: no wait, don't, I can't finish perlqt when you do that, can you take a look at korundum rc1 instead? [13:03] I replace the existing entry for kde 4.6.90 or I add another one ? (on the wiki) [13:03] bambee: scroll down ;) [13:03] korundum rc1? [13:03] ok [13:04] shadeslayer: dunno, depends on whether you plan on becomming a being of consciousness alone [13:04] yofel: so I just look at korundum rc1 for now? [13:04] if they do the tagging on the 20th, we have 2 days to make sure the licensing is right, which for the bindings is mostly not true [13:04] bambee: yes [13:04] ack [13:04] bambee: bah, I got confused, I meant kimono [13:05] I did korundum [13:05] ok [13:06] In fact I thought that the section for kde 4.6.95 was not on the wiki yet :) [13:07] I moved it down since we're not done with RC1 [13:08] yofel: wiki updated, working on kimono [13:17] perlqt is another license nightmare :( [13:18] yofel: it's a new package or it has been splited ? (kimono) [13:19] splitted* [13:19] kimono is from kdebindings (kde bindings for c#) [13:19] ok [13:37] shadeslayer: gwenview copyright is fixed [13:38] yus :) [13:38] i'm looking at it :) [13:39] anyone an idea wth. the Perl Artistic License 1.0 is? ^^ [13:39] i've heard of artistic license's ... never seen one [13:41] ah, the dep5 page says to use 'GPL-1+ or Artistic-1' instead, fun [13:41] the mono packages for kimono are: plasma-scriptengine-kimono kio-monodoc libkimono-cil-dev libqyoto-cil-dev qyoto-dev ? [13:41] yofel: http://dev.perl.org/licenses/artistic.html [13:41] (I am not sure.. I don't know these packages :\) [13:42] agateau: thanks [13:42] can someone open the license links on http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ btw.? http://spdx.org/licenses/Artistic-1.0 for example shows as XHTML source here, not the page [13:51] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Rohan Garg * 7 * debian/ (control copyright gwenview.install) * Add GFDL licensing for docs [13:55] o.o there are zombie 29 process of kded4 [14:00] shadeslayer: can you take a quick look if I made any syntax errors? I've a headache by now... http://paste.kde.org/98251/ [14:14] yofel: Is wiki up-to-date regarding 4.6.95? [14:14] should be [14:14] any idea what happened to kate? [14:15] *shrug* [14:15] shadeslayer: [14:15] ^^ [14:21] Quintasan: its in bzr [14:21] needs upload [14:21] yofel: looking [14:22] did someone already do mono packaging ? ^^ [14:22] yofel: isn't the license part supposed to have 2 spaces in the beginning? i see just one [14:23] apart from that looks good [14:24] yofel: oh, no email address of copyright holders [14:24] bambee: talk to Quintasan [14:24] shadeslayer: I don't see anything about spaces in the dep5 spec [14:24] Quintasan: ^ [14:24] I'll see if I can find the mails... [14:24] bambee: Not done yet. [14:24] ^^ [14:25] and "2008 by Richard Dale" should be "2008, Richard Dale " [14:25] yofel: hmm, no idea then, i've always used 2 spaces [14:25] Quintasan: kate and gwenview need uploading [14:26] gwenview -> cannot go into archive?: docs have no license at all it appears [14:26] is that fixed? [14:26] yus [14:27] bah, agateau forgot to place COPYING.DOC [14:27] shadeslayer: other projects do not have one [14:27] shadeslayer: so I cargo-culted them [14:28] agateau: then they are broken, we need full license text afaik [14:28] shadeslayer: I bet you repacked the tarball, did you? [14:28] Quintasan: don't remember [14:28] * shadeslayer looks [14:28] ofc [14:28] doesn't look like it [14:28] k, fixed, now to figure out what license copies are missing [14:29] shadeslayer: Am I getting a fixed tarball or repacked one? [14:29] depends on agateau [14:29] Quintasan: ok, at least konsole does not have one, I can add a COPYING.DOC, no pb [14:30] uh dude [14:30] agateau: Thanks, that makes mine and ScottK's life easier [14:30] agateau: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdebase/konsole/repository/revisions/master/entry/COPYING.DOC [14:30] uh, for GPL-1+ or Artistic is it enough to add GPL-2, or -1, or both? [14:30] I would add 1 [14:31] and mention that later version can be found the in the same directory as -1 [14:31] shadeslayer: oh... it got added after my last update [14:31] * agateau is ashamed [14:32] shadeslayer: How do we get a new tarball? [14:32] Quintasan: this is about the full license copies [14:32] Quintasan: we just repack the tarball [14:32] Oh [14:32] Add -1 then [14:33] do I need to add Artistic too? This perl licensing is confusing [14:33] Quintasan: one sec [14:33] shadeslayer: Do it, and don't forget to fix changelog [14:33] mmm... should i use FDL 1.2 or 1.3 [14:33] * agateau hates licenses [14:33] agateau: 1.2 [14:33] agateau: afaik its 1.2 [14:33] ok [14:34] yofel: I'd add Artistic too [14:34] Better safe than sorry and ~10kb more or less won't make a difference [14:34] Quintasan: then this'll be fun, now there's a LICENSE. I'll need to add LICENSE.GPL-3, .GPL-1, .LGPL, .Artistic [14:34] Gotta love policy <3 [14:35] shadeslayer: ping me when done [14:35] shadeslayer: also, upload to ninjas [14:35] kwait [14:35] ok, COPYING.DOC added to gwenview master and KDE/4.7 [14:35] :D [14:35] agateau: Thanks [14:36] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/gwenview] Rohan Garg * 8 * debian/changelog Repack gwenview tarball with GFDL 1.2 licensing [14:37] debfx: Are you planning on merging Qt from Debian anytime soon? [14:38] Quintasan: is there anything to merge? [14:39] debfx: I think they split -dbg stuff [14:41] Quintasan: done [14:42] should arrive in the PPA in a couple of minutes [14:42] debfx: kate is done as well right? [14:43] Quintasan: we've already merged that [14:43] shadeslayer: yes, but it's still in NEW [14:43] debfx: Cool [14:43] uh, you uploaded that? [14:43] * Quintasan looks at shadeslayer and points him to wiki [14:44] i didn't know debfx uploaded kate [14:44] Now you know [14:44] yus, fixing, what color did we use for NEW? [14:44] no idea [14:45] ScottK: Can you accept kate? [14:48] since i'm not patching a package, can i use the native source format? [14:49] you don't have an orig.tar ? [14:49] i do [14:49] then please use 3.0 quilt [14:50] oh, so we use native when we don't have a tar? [14:50] yep, guess why it's called native [14:50] i thought native was used when you don't modify any upstream file [14:50] Will look shortly. [14:51] * yofel hands shadeslayer the dpkg-source manpage [14:51] yeah was already looking at that and DebianMentorsfaq [14:52] ah hmm [14:53] shadeslayer: native is used when we are upstream [14:54] like debian is upstream to us? [14:54] !find autoreconf.mk [14:54] !info /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/autoreconf.mk [14:54] File autoreconf.mk found in dh-autoreconf [14:54] Package usrsharecdbs1rulesautoreconf.mk does not exist in natty [15:03] ScottK: got a minute? If this is the licensing: http://paste.kde.org/98269 - what license copies *have* to be in the source? [15:03] currently there's only a LICENSE file with the GPL-2 in it [15:05] yofel: Since GPL-2 is GPL-1 or later that's legal, but it should have Artistic and GPL-1 in it. [15:07] * yofel goes adding 4 copies then after all.. [15:25] could someone also review the 2 indi packages in the ninjas ppa? [15:27] well, sorry but I think that I am the wrong person to package kimono... I know nothing about mono and mono packaging... these packages rules will just be ugly o_O [15:32] wohoo : http://paste.kde.org/98287/ : indi-maxdomeii is broken [15:34] lolwot (.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main' [15:34] did you use gcc on a c++ file? [15:34] seems the build system did [15:35] hm, no, it used c++ [15:35] freaky failure [15:35] yeah [15:35] i've already emailed the maintainer, lets see what happens [15:36] i already had to patch the CMake file [15:40] /scratchbox/tools/bin/chown: changing ownership of `/usr/local/share/emacs': Operation not permitted [15:40] * apachelogger waves fist a bit [15:40] i thought you were a vim guy [15:41] cmake looses emacsen-common for good knows what [15:41] perhaps ccmake [15:42] indi-spectracyber ... funky name [15:42] apachelogger: you're not trying to debootstrap oneiric are you? ^^ [15:42] no [15:42] hm [15:43] I blame it all on scratchbox [15:46] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (32 files in 4 dirs) Add perlqt packaging [15:47] whoa :D [15:47] this is mad, nothing but mad [15:48] shadeslayer: 20 install files :P [15:51] brb after dinner [15:57] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 6 * debian/ (changelog control copyright) resync with debian [15:59] [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~/cmake-2.8.5] > gcc cmake_bootstrap_10824_test.c -o cmake_bootstrap_10824_test [15:59] [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~/cmake-2.8.5] > ./cmake_bootstrap_10824_test [15:59] bash: ./cmake_bootstrap_10824_test: No such file or directory [15:59] srsly [16:01] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/changelog Repack tarball to include missing license copies === zkriesse_ is now known as Guest48804 === zkriesse__ is now known as zkriesse_ [16:25] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (changelog control copyright rules) resync with debian and repackage to include missing license copies [16:28] even more fun http://paste.kde.org/98365 [16:30] well, autotools [16:32] Quintasan: What's the license for part/syntax/data/find-trivial-regexpr.sh in kate? [16:33] shadeslayer: ^ [16:33] yeah already looking [16:34] ScottK: i'd say GPL2 for anything thats explicitly missing a copyright [16:34] shadeslayer: That's not how it works. [16:34] Was that file writte for Kate (then maybe) or copied from elsewhere? [16:35] hmm .... will ask the copyright holder [16:36] part/script/katescriptview.h is GPL 2 or 3. [16:36] Missing from debian/copyright [16:38] ScottK: looks like LGPL 2.1+ to me [16:38] shadeslayer: On what basis? [16:39] " ... of the GNU Library General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation ... " [16:40] but then there's also " ... version 2 of the License, or (at your option) version 3." [16:40] shadeslayer: Which file are you on? [16:41] ScottK: part/script/katescriptview.h [16:41] Right LGPL versus GPL. [16:41] But it's not 2.1+ [16:41] It's 2.1 or 3. [16:41] there's a LGPL v3 ? [16:41] I theoretical LGPL 4 would not be allowed. [16:41] Yes. [16:42] ok i didn't know that, which is why i said 2.1+ [16:42] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.txt [16:43] Regardless, 2.1 or 3 is not the same as 2.1+ [16:43] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokekde] Philip Muškovac * 3 * debian/ (7 files in 2 dirs) resync with debian and repack tarball to include missing license copies [16:43] right [16:48] ScottK: anything apart from that? [16:51] That's all I found looking at licensing. I didn't look at packaging yet. [16:53] alright, i'll try and fix this tomorrow [17:02] btw: https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace/+merge/68176 [17:02] https://code.launchpad.net/~bambi/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers/+merge/68175 :) [17:06] [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~] > cmake [17:06] bash: /usr/bin/cmake: No such file or directory [17:06] this is absolutely kaputt [17:42] apachelogger: question, how does one use qVariantFromValue in pyth0rn? [17:43] dude [17:43] pyth0rn [17:43] yus, i need pyth0rn this time [17:43] dude [17:43] pyth0rn [17:44] what the heck makes you think I'd know that kinda stuff about the pyth0rns? [17:44] like srsly [17:45] so you don't? [17:45] course not [17:46] * apachelogger is busy with pyside anyway :P [17:47] apachelogger: is pyside better or pyQt? [17:47] define bettar [17:47] i need better QML integration [17:47] so whichever has better QML support [17:48] qml support? [17:48] what you mean? [17:48] qml is a language of its own [17:48] hence the L in there :P [17:49] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/98389 << i'm doing that [17:49] currently segfaults :P [17:50] why? [17:50] ah, nvm, I really dont want to know [17:50] but anyways, i need better QGV support [17:50] its just a prototype ... [17:50] thy shalt not think about QGV [17:51] everything you do with QGV is going to go to shit once Qt 5 and superior QGS is out [17:51] anyhow [17:51] shadeslayer: prototypes be better done in cpp [17:51] with qmake [17:51] mhhh qmake :D [17:51] heh [17:51] * apachelogger ponders migrating all of phonon to qmake [17:52] if thats the case, i vote to drop phonon [17:52] :P [17:52] you just dunno how to use qmake proper [17:52] * apachelogger is using it for libcutevlc [17:53] uh-huh, try saying that after you look through qt script generator [17:53] shoot [17:53] /home/me/phonon-gstreamer-4.5.55/gstreamer/videodataoutput.h:48: Error: Undefined interface [17:54] apachelogger: dude, just tell me how to use qVariantfromValue and then i can go to sleep [17:54] the docs are shot on how to use it [17:55] it's a "shortcut" for QVariant::fromValue() [17:55] lazy sill person http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.pyqt-pykde/4581 [17:55] well, yes, but how do i calll that method in python? qVariantfromvalue didn't work [17:55] try QVariant.fromValue(foo)? [17:56] AttributeError: type object 'QVariant' has no attribute 'fromValue' [17:56] READDDDSG [17:56] * apachelogger chops of his fist and throws it after shadeslayer [17:56] yes, constructors are a good thing [17:56] -> building more debs for harmattan [17:57] * tsimpson wonders if the C++ -> Python code style in PyQt is really a good thing [17:57] pyside is coming anyway [17:58] isn't it supposed to be very similar to PyQt? [17:58] I think I even read it was mostly API compatible (besides imports) [17:58] except it is lgpl [17:58] well that's the only reason it exists [17:59] big reason for all I care [18:00] I don't see it as a huge issue, but I'm not Nokia [18:00] * apachelogger wonders why his phonon must be so broken [18:00] tsimpson: libraries should not be gpl, not ever [18:00] go tell GNU that [18:01] GNU clearly is not anywhere close to world domination... :P [18:01] when people get curious about (L)GPL, they google and get the the FAQ, which gently informs you that the LGPL is evil except for the C library... [18:02] which makes the educated reader wonder why it is ok for the c lib :P [18:04] so everyone can be forced to use the GNU libc, of course [18:05] and because, even GNU knows, people want paid-for software to *WORK* [18:05] so why can I not force everyone to use a cute pyth0rn? :P [18:07] bwhahaha program crashes at view.setSource [18:07] great [18:08] while shadeslayer was playing around with pyth0rn I'd had finished the prototype in cpp and played a round of dungeons and dragons [18:08] uh huh [18:08] apachelogger: you are supreme h4xor [18:13] interestingly it works with pyside [18:14] http://i.imgur.com/X40Oh.png [18:14] pyside++ === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin === xeros_ is now known as xeros === ejat- is now known as ejat [20:09] shadeslayer: the repacked gwenview tarball needs to have this commit applied: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=gwenview.git&a=commitdiff&h=2b7ad82d680d4bed9ea984a3644844f8d79edba9 [20:51] apachelogger: you tell them: kde bug 277833 [20:51] KDE bug 277833 in general "okularApplication_mobi desktop from mobipocket should use TryExec now that it's not shipped together with okular " [Normal,Resolved: invalid] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277833 === yofel_ is now known as yofel === timblechmann is now known as tim [20:59] yofel: if I were to comment it would not ever get fixed [20:59] yofel: you might want to explain that this is a distro pov [20:59] though his argument is completely valid from a KDE POV [20:59] there is no reason why not to add it to make distro life easier