[00:00] do you think we'll ever see a time when you walk into a best buy, etc.. and buy a pc/laptop w/o an operating system, and you can purchase it separately (or use your own).... [00:01] KM0201: nope, but you can order one from off line that will be cheaper than store with no OS [00:01] i doubt that [00:02] i got a pretty nice laptop for $299 out the door saturday [00:02] it SUCKS w/ 7 (not enough ram)... but it's awesome w/ Lubuntu. [00:03] KM0201: nice [00:03] they sell you a cheap laptop, knowing your'e gonna be totally irritated that it's slow, because it doesn't have enough ram. [00:03] i wonder how many got hoodwinked by that. [00:04] and then.. i had to tell that clown at best buy, "No, I don't want any antivirus... I don't care that it's free" [00:05] so the guy finally gets the drift i don't want AV, a free trial of office, etc.. takes me to the Geek Squad to check out (already knew i'd be in for another sales pitch) [00:05] and of course they want to set my laptop up for me, and install Norton, and MS Office, bla bla bla. [00:05] i finally had to tell them i'm just not interested in their stuff, and they finally let me pay [02:33] anyone here [02:33] lubuntu uses less ram than puppylinux [02:34] linuxman410: i dunno about that [02:34] how much ram does your system have [02:35] KM0201 i tried puppy live cd and lubuntu live cd with 768 ram and lubuntu was faster [02:36] linuxman410: hmm, don't really see how thats possible, but.. ok. [02:37] KM0201 does lubuntu decided on lmde yet or not [02:37] lmde? [02:37] linux mint debian edition? [02:37] i mean light version [02:38] i have no idea what you're talking about [02:38] how much lighter can lubuntu be? [02:39] i think he means a minimal install [02:39] ie no apps [02:39] linuxman410: LightDM or LXDM? [02:39] wich in all honesty if you want that just get debian netinstalll and start from scratch [02:39] linuxman410: There is always lubuntu-core [02:39] KM0201 they was talking about changing from lxde to something lighter i forget what it was [02:39] !info lubuntu-core [02:39] lubuntu-core (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment - minimal installation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.24 (natty), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc ia64 sparc lpia armel) [02:40] light gm [02:40] linuxman410: dunno, i like lxde, so i hope they don't change it just for the sake of changing it. [02:40] afaik why not just do debian and choose your guy from the netinstall... [02:40] or ubuntu netinstall [02:40] never heard of light gm [02:40] linuxman410: or do you mean light gdm? [02:40] yes [02:41] i dunno [02:41] i just hope they don't screw up lubuntu... [02:41] Unit193: what is that alternative log in screen you sent me a while ago. [02:41] Lubuntu uses LXDE and that will not change [02:41] i wanna put that on my new laptop [02:41] LightDM is what it's (so far) going with in 11.10 [02:41] KM0201: GDM [02:42] ok. [02:42] KM0201: Doesn't seem to work the best with Lubuntu [02:42] Unit193: i got it on a desktop working fine w/ lubuntu [02:43] Alrighty then, I never tried that hard :P [02:44] brb [02:47] it works fine [02:47] i put it on my mom/dads/sisters PC... it was easier than telling them to type user names. [02:47] now it's kinda like they had w/ Ubuntu, click a username, enter password [02:49] that was weird [02:49] KM0201: That's how it's going to be with LightDM (If they stick with it) [02:50] yeah. [02:51] Unit193: i kinda hope they go w/ it [02:51] i like it [02:51] but the default lubuntu screen doesn't bother me either. [02:59] hmm, think i might have screwed something up [02:59] lol, i'll know ina second [03:01] hows lubuntu performance everyone id like to know a little before i wipe my crunchbang laptop [03:02] KM0201 when is 11.10 coming out [03:03] ok, got it fixed [03:03] seems lxdm didn't co-operate as easily as i thought it would..lol [03:03] KM0201 when is 11.10 coming out [03:03] 11.10 ---- october 2011 [03:04] linuxman410: thats how all ubuntu's are version numbers ar edone.... (Year year/month month)... [03:04] so.. 4.10 came out... october of 2004 [03:04] 6.06 --- June of 06 [03:04] and so forth [08:53] when I click on the start menu, launchers ...nothing happens [08:54] opened xchat using Gnomedo [09:02] when I click on the start menu, launchers ...nothing happens ..Just rebooted but same thing === JoeMaverickSett is now known as MavJS === Evixion` is now known as Evixion === zkriesse_ is now known as Guest48804 === zkriesse__ is now known as zkriesse_ [16:52] hello lubuntu-ers [20:25] hello [20:26] hoe can i enable auto-login in 11.04? [20:32] I dont want to have to type my user and password in lxdm each time I start the computer up [21:49] i cant delete or transfer files off of my mp3 players and flash drive... it always shows errors... (i just did a fresh install) do i need to install drivers? [21:51] lubun: what type of mp3 player and flash drive? [21:51] i have an old ipod nano... a phillips go gear aria, and a usb stick cruzer? [21:52] KM0201: see above [21:52] ok, the "old nano".. use gtkpod to sync... ou can't drag/drop to them [21:52] the cruzer... that's a sandisk isn't it? [21:52] yes [21:52] ok [21:53] on sandisk thumb drives, sandisk puts a utility on them, to keep them from being used on anything but windows, there's a utility you can install either from the ubuntur epositories (it's a command line utility) to remove that, you can use fdisk under ubuntu to do it, or you can boot wndows (if you still have it) and download a tool from sandisk, to remove it [21:55] let me try and find that [21:58] lubun: if you still have windows.... http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm [21:59] i do have it but on another pc. [21:59] ok, then you'd need to sudo apt-get install u3-tool [22:00] you might even be able to use fdisk to just wreck the thumb drive, and then format it to a new filesystem. [22:00] lubun: keep mind, all those tools, you will lose data, so make sure any important data on the thumb drive, is backed up [22:01] well... i backup everything on a external HDD before i went from Ubuntu to Lubuntu. idk what happened, but now they dont work under lubuntu... [22:03] lubun: your external hard drive (that worked on Ubuntu) won't work on Lubuntu? [22:03] no i mean the devices [22:04] KM0201: its the mp3's that are not working... they worked fine in ubuntu [22:04] li don't understand, an mp3, is a file, not a device. [22:04] are you saying you cant play mp3s? [22:04] the only thing i ddint like was that the mp3 always had the music mixed up when i played it. [22:05] mp3 device [22:05] the go gear, the flash drive, the ipod [22:05] ok, i don't know about the go gear and the flash drive, but the ipod, install gtkpod [22:05] well actuall i just got the sandisk but so idk about that [22:05] k [22:05] let me try to use that now [22:14] how do you join the lubuntu artwork team? [22:15] cg2916: i dunno, but they need help [22:15] lol [22:15] ok [22:15] phillw: probably knows [22:15] what with? [22:16] phillw, do you know? [22:16] KM0201: heres a kind of off topic question do you know how to take pictures out of a ipod and save them to the computer? [22:16] lol, uh, everything. lubuntu's artwork leaves a bit to be desired (although thats part of its charm) [22:16] lubun: as far as i know, gtkpod should be able to do that... i don't have an ipod anymore... [22:18] phillw must be afk [22:18] he seems to know a lot, considering i see his name on every other page on the wiki [22:18] lol, i think thats his "job" (to updat the wiki) [22:19] yeah [22:21] so, nobody knows about the artwork team other than phillw? [22:21] Hi there :) [22:21] I just installed Lubuntu for the first time and was wondering how I could change the font size for the system [22:21] In Ubuntu it was Preferences>Appearance, how s it in Lubuntu [22:22] Ok found id [22:22] it* [22:22] Thanks anyway :) [22:22] sent phillw an email [22:24] even gtk wont let me delete,,,? [22:24] delete what? [22:24] songs on an ipod [22:24] ? [22:25] yeah, i just get errors [22:25] hmm [22:27] thats how i feel [22:27] lo.l [22:28] !ipod [22:28] For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [22:46] lubun: what happens when you try to sync the ipod back to your pc? [22:48] phillw, you there now? [22:48] it says full, but thats becuase i have to much music [22:49] jmm