[00:56] i need to add a repositiory to my sorces list. can someone help with that [00:56] http://kismetwireless.net/download.shtml [00:59] philipballew: use add repository command [01:00] philipballew: sudo add-apt-repository ppa: [01:01] its not a ppa though? [01:01] stlsaint, [01:03] philipballew: you can still use a command but we will add it manually [01:03] philipballew: first make a backup of your current sources.list [01:03] okay [01:03] sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup [01:04] done [01:04] philipballew: you running ubuntu? [01:04] if so what version [01:04] 11.04 [01:04] natty [01:04] 2.6.38 [01:04] alright [01:05] well use your fav editor to open the sources.list [01:05] if gedit than use: [01:05] o opend the list in vi [01:05] 8i [01:05] *i [01:05] same thing though [01:05] alright well at the bottom of that file ad this entry: [01:05] deb http://www.kismetwireless.net/code/ natty kismet [01:05] you can put a comment in there above it like: [01:05] #This is repo for kismet [01:05] or whatever [01:06] philipballew: then add the kismet gpg key to your keyring [01:06] philipballew: run command: [01:06] curl https://www.kismetwireless.net/code/dists/kismet-release.gpg | sudo apt-key add - [01:07] then update [01:07] philipballew: sudo apt-get update [01:07] and you should be good to go [01:08] for more on repositories see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories [01:09] philipballew: ok? [01:10] its updating :) [01:10] slow internet [01:11] kk [01:12] it updated. lets see if it works now i guess [01:13] im upgrading [01:14] philipballew: do you have a launchpad account? [01:14] why yes i do. [01:14] i have to [01:14] do you? [01:15] philipballew: oh nevermind, im thinking of something else [01:15] haha, i,m a ubuntu member so i need one [01:15] gotcha [01:16] philipballew: must never had to do much with repos then huh? [01:16] never. but kismet version apt-get has is made in 2008 [01:18] lol wow [03:27] how can i see the names of all computers on my network [03:31] should say all the names when you go to yer network.. [03:33] go to my network? Error404NotFound [03:36] places network [03:36] should show all connected computers [03:38] then if i hook up to a cat5 it would show the ones connected that way? [03:41] Hook two computers straight into each other or through a router? [03:41] haha. seemes logical [03:42] I would assume it would work if you just wired them both together, never tried it though, I've always gone through a router. [03:43] Does seem like one of those obvious things you assume will work automatically but doesn't. [03:44] you can wire 2 computers directly together but you need a special wire [03:45] What wire? [03:45] all wires on one side of the rj45 have to be complete oppisite [03:45] otherwise send from one computer goes to send on the other [03:46] need to reverse so send goes to recieve [03:47] Hmm, interesting. This special wire have a name? Or do you just have to know what you're looking for? [03:48] crossover cable [03:48] or cross cable [03:49] crossover cable [03:49] go here [03:49] http://en.kioskea.net/contents/elec/rj45croise.php3 [03:50] Cool, thanks [03:50] just swap green and orange wires [03:50] and you got a crossover cable [03:50] lol @ Neoncamouflage [03:51] kind of an oxymoron isnt it? [03:53] philipballew: if you put a switch on the orange wire you got a lag switch... [03:53] Yep, why I love it. [03:54] It would work great in a 50's sci fi [04:10] Alright, probably a stupid question, but why do some bash scripts have "done" at the end and some don't? [04:26] I'm setting up the firewall. I don't want to allow everything out. What should I whitelist? I tried whitelisting ports 443 and 80 - but I couldn't access the internet. Why? [04:28] Do believe browsers use port 81 as well. [04:29] goma, why are you setting up a firewALL? [04:30] nit-wit: extra security on my system, for the heck of it, experienece [04:30] goma, okay [04:30] goma, from what I understand firewalls block incoming connections to your computer, and browsers only make outgoing connections. It may be something different causing your issues. [04:32] maybe - The thing is I'm already blocking everything but port 80 coming in. Coming out - everything is open. I figure if I allow port 80 and 443 out than everything should be dandy [04:33] but that's not the case - i can't access a webpage if i only whitelist ports 80 and 443. what else should i whitelist [04:34] i only use the web on this machiene - no samba, no ssh, no ftp. [yet] so i don't see what else to unblock [04:34] I don't know, just for internet that should be it. [04:35] Will take a cruise through Google and see if anything turns up. [04:39] Alright, looks like you've done it right. Possibly unblock 53 and 631 just on the off chance that's doing it but I find it unlikely [04:39] Try posting on ubuntuforums.org if IRC isn't helping, very knowledgeable people there [04:40] okay - will try that - may go offline for a bit to see if it works [04:40] I certainly wish you luck, let me know how it goes mate. [04:42] hello - am i back on? [04:42] !test [04:42] Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use #test ) [04:43] ok - it didn't work - but i didn't read the error message before. It says the DNS is not found. Maybe DNS uses a different port [04:44] DNS uses port 53 [04:45] Did you have that one unblocked or no? [04:48] i did have it unlocked [04:48] but only TCP [04:48] i'll change that to both [04:49] Huzza success! [04:49] :D [04:49] Thanks a lot man - now this works like a charm [04:49] Happy I could help. Glad you got it working. [09:04] anyone up that knows kubuntu === dreaded66 is now known as fyrfaktry === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [14:15] hi [14:15] how do I restore messaging menu? [14:15] I accidentally removed it [14:16] hello [14:16] what version of ubuntu are u using Wille [14:16] 11.04 [14:16] classic menu ? [14:16] mmm yeah [14:17] right click the top panel and choose add to panel [14:17] I couldn't find it there [14:17] it's not called that [14:17] i think it's the notification menu [14:17] notification applet [14:17] or something [14:18] indicator applet i think [14:18] ah okay [14:18] got it [14:18] thanks [14:19] np :) [14:19] that's a bit confusing though [14:19] it has the sound menu too i think [14:19] they are all a part of the indicator applet [14:19] yeah I was missing that too :D [14:20] I was just trying to remove this whatever 'keyboard settings menu' which I find redundant [14:20] but then off came everything with it [15:10] hey can anyone help me here installing open source drivers over fglrx? [15:28] Hello. [15:28] Greetings, s-fox [15:29] Hello tenach . === zkriesse_ is now known as Guest48804 [16:18] Anyone know how to auto run commands at Xchat startup? [16:19] I found an option for it back when i first started using it, but I honestly have no idea now. === zkriesse__ is now known as zkriesse_ [16:20] I'm looking for Connect command' edit box? [16:20] Just trying to get to autoconnect to channels/servers on startup? [16:20] with "LOAD -e /path/to/textfile" [16:20] ah [16:20] it runs commands like join channel identify [16:21] earthling_, go to XChat -> Network List -> Edit Channel -> Connect Command Box [16:21] Couldn't help you there, I know generally where you can save channels to autojoin, but I have no idea where the option to autorun commands is. [16:21] He does. :) [16:22] thanks zkriesse! [16:22] earthling_, Not a prob [16:22] xchat not as user friendly as mirc, hehe [16:23] lol [16:23] earthling_, Nope [16:23] lot more customizations though [16:23] I'll be right back [17:09] earthling_: if you had been hacked twice through mirc like I have been, you would stick to xchat without a comment [17:14] I don't think security and user friendliness are incompatible [17:17] earthling_: I tend to agree but xchat is pretty user friendly to my taste anyway [17:17] Xchat is awesome [17:17] * nlsthzn strokes his xchat and it purrs back [17:17] I was previously using xchat-gnome but it was full of bugs [17:18] I think xchat is the best linux IRC client [17:18] I haven't tried many but I like it [17:19] what I still haven't found is a good email client [17:19] for gnome perhaps... can't remember the one coming with Kubuntu but it waqs solid [17:19] quassel I think [17:21] I haven't tried any command line irc clients [17:22] I wouldn't recommend it... it'd be like going back 15 years [17:22] I don't use command line much [17:22] lots of people like to use it to keep logged in else where and use ssh to chat :) [17:23] I like command line but prefer GUI apps for everyday tasks [17:24] you guys like Unity? [17:24] or Gnome [17:25] I'm still on 10.04 [17:25] works good enough for me [17:27] * nlsthzn likes his natty and unity [17:28] I heard unity is not ready for primetime [17:28] I'll get around to flash driving it sometime [17:29] in 11.10 it will be better... by 12.04 it will be superb [17:29] how do you know? [17:29] history teaches us ;) [17:29] heh ok [17:30] * nlsthzn has to point out all he says is his opinion... [17:30] understood [17:30] but the guys has done a sterling job to bring unity to where it is now [17:30] how long you been using linux? [17:31] I've been using ubuntu for about 8 months [17:31] on and off for a few years... only desktop stuff though [17:32] earthling_: how about other distros? [17:32] I tried knoppix for a short time a few years ago [17:32] thats about it [17:32] oh ok [17:33] and unix in school [17:33] never tried knoppix but I tried many about 10 years ago [17:33] when slackware was starting to lose popularity [17:34] my favorite server distro is now gentoo but ubuntu is really nice for regular users as it's very easy to install [17:34] I heard gentoo takes a lot of time to set up [17:34] little structure [17:34] the first time, you have to follow their guide [17:35] it has a few annoying update bugs but overall it is really well thought for someone who knows linux well [17:35] how long did it take? [17:36] it depends on the hardware as the default installation method is to recompile everything [17:36] last time I installed it I had only a dual core and it took me almost 2 days to install everything I wanted [17:37] hows it compare to ubuntu? [17:37] much faster and more stable [17:37] but a lot more complex to configure for end users [17:37] interesting [17:38] I never ever have to reboot it [17:38] it got restarted once in the last year because of a power outage and that's it [17:38] except during updates? [17:38] never had to restart it [17:38] bug fixes [17:38] neat [17:38] the only reason I would restart it is if I had to install a kernel update [17:39] since 2.6, the kernel has been very complete and stable [17:40] do you use Opera? [17:40] I prefer open source but I hear its good [17:40] on Windows I use 5 browsers to test my sites [17:40] on Linux I only use FF [17:41] no norwegian loyalty? hehe [17:41] and links (or lynx) when needed from the command line [17:41] I'm canadian [17:41] oh ok [17:41] don't care where it's from [17:41] just used to FF [17:42] I like FF, but chrome seems faster sometimes [17:42] chromium [17:42] on ubuntu [17:42] I have this personal thing against Google so I try to avoid it as much as possible [17:43] only use it for compatibility tests [17:43] I like that google supports a lot of open source, but I try to keep a close eye on them hehe [17:43] they just seem to never stop growing [17:44] don't you see how much they benefit from their open source systems? [17:44] how so? [17:44] their search engine technology is closed, source right? [17:45] and they just closed android [17:45] 2 reasons: 1) to remain the center of attention 2) to spy further into the users' life [17:45] it is closed [17:45] it couldn't be any other way actually [17:46] as soon as people start to understand the indexing rules, they find ways to bypass them [17:46] http://www.google.com/press/annc/opensource.html [17:46] open source iniatives [17:46] yeah, they want to be first on search listings [17:50] duck duck go is an alternative, not as polished as google though === TheDaniel0108 is now known as Daniel0108 [19:21] Anyone know of a way to get different desktop backgrounds for each workstation? [19:27] what do u mean by workstation Neoncamouflage [19:27] u mean like workspace? [19:27] i don't think i saw something like that before [19:27] *facepalm* [19:27] yeah that [19:27] my bad [19:28] I haven't either, but I'd really like it, so I was hoping someone had seen something like it [19:29] I found it in google but it specifically doesn't work in 10.10, which is what I use... So that workaround won't do. [19:30] i am trying some stuff i found [19:32] Neoncamouflage, try this http://www.techtickle.com/linux-tip-set-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu.html [19:33] looks like what I need from the link, thanks [19:34] "and you should install avant window navigator for navigation purposes because after doing this you will not have link on to your desktop." [19:34] Does this mean that I won't have my panels or anything? Or just no desktop shortcuts? [19:34] nope [19:34] this does not mean that. [19:34] avant is fine. its safe. [19:35] No, I mean nautilus is standard, if I keep it and use this way to get different wallpapers, will it only remove my ability to use desktop icons or my navigation panels as well? [19:35] As I dont' use desktop icons anyway, but I'd be unhappy if my panels went away [19:37] it will not create any inability for you. [19:37] you can still use your gnome 2 as same as you were using it before avant [19:37] and apart from that if you seen any issue then you can uninstall avant in future. [19:38] Neoncamouflage, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14224314/Screenshot-5.png managed to make it work [19:38] but it has 1 downside [19:39] What I'm saying is I don't want Avant. Looking at it I prefer my Gnome 2 panels and I'm not wanting to install Avant. So if I remain with Gnome 2 and Nautilus, will your link remove my ability to use panels? [19:39] That looks interesting coalwater [19:40] what downside? [19:40] u have to disable the icons to appear on the desktop [19:41] That's the same thing I'm talking about with abhijit [19:41] panels are working fine [19:41] Alright, cool [19:41] i have not done this so no idea about any disadavantage [19:41] Abhijit, i never tried it either, i just googled and tried it now [19:41] I dont' use desktop icons as it is, I can't stand having them cluttered, even my panels are on autohide [19:41] Long as I can still use those I'm happy [19:41] good, so u wont mind the link [19:42] Where'd you find it? [19:42] coalwater, ok [19:42] its the same instructions on Abhijit's link , but a different one [19:43] http://ubuntuguide.net/different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu [19:43] Alright, thanks a lot for the help guys, sorry for the confusion [19:43] np, u dont need to install any thing [19:43] just extra plugins for compiz [19:43] Does compiz come with 10.10? [19:44] Not heard anything about it or noticed it so far [19:44] yea, but it said it doesnt work with maverick [19:44] >< [19:44] *sigh* Suppose it'll wait until 11.10 then when I upgrade. Will keep searching in the meantime. [19:45] u could try it [19:45] u wont loose any thing [19:45] Yeah, worth a shot [19:48] Also found a program call Wallpapoz [19:49] Will try it if this doesn't work, as it seems decent [19:49] btw Neoncamouflage , u might need to restart compiz to make it work, it didnt work with me till i restarted compiz [19:50] Good to know, thanks [19:50] alt+f2 then "compiz --replace" [19:51] no quotes [19:51] I can't seem to bring up compiz... I run it and all windows disappear for a second, then come back [19:51] Run it in terminal instead of alt+F2 and the terminal process keeps running but shows nothing [19:52] Maybe this is the 10.10 problem [19:53] that's what compiz restarting does [19:54] Hmm, so I'm restarting it when I'm trying to open the settings [19:57] Installed Wallpapoz, looks perfect so far, think I'll use it === DAYSE_ is now known as pedro3005 === DAYSE_ is now known as pedro3005 [20:40] How do you get Ubuntu to start using Python 3 by default instead of Python 2.x? [20:48] Neoncamouflage: I do it by application, using "python2.6 application_to_start &" [20:49] I mean is there a way so that typing in "Python" on the command line starts Python 3 instead of 2? [20:50] I just find it annoying to have to type Python3 every time. [20:50] As I always forget === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:55] sorry, I don't know [20:55] Darn [20:55] I did it once before, copied code from some random Python guide [20:55] But I've looked everywhere and cannot for the life of me find it again [20:56] No clue what I did [22:39] Neoncamouflage: i would probably use a PPA like https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/python3.2 [22:40] you'd probably need to find one with natty support if needed [23:23] Hey guys - whats a good Internet download manager for linux? [23:23] I want something that breaks up the file and downloads in parts [like torrents] - essentially it should make downloading much faster [23:23] why would you need one [23:24] make download faster and make it so i can pause and start a download even if i close the webbrowser [23:25] you using dial up still or something? [23:25] nah - but my internet could be faster [23:26] what kinda speed you got [23:26] 1.5 Mbps [23:27] eww no wonder you want a dl manager [23:27] lol what type of speed do you have? [23:27] 50 Mbps [23:27] O_o [23:27] at home or work? [23:28] home [23:28] what do you do! That's insanely fast. Heck even comcast maxes at 12 Mbps i think [23:29] i have comcast [23:29] they have 150 Mbps now [23:29] oh [23:29] i pay 99 bucks a month for full hd with a dvr and 50meg internet [23:29] where you live? [23:30] Chicago [23:30] Illinois [23:30] weird [23:30] i think i play lie 25$ per month [23:30] for atnt [23:31] i think slowest comcast offers is 6 meg [23:31] comcast bought out at&t here in minnesota [23:32] ha, i'll be going to college soon and they have 10Mbps there [23:32] a real upgrade from my experience [23:32] i hjavnt had internet that slow since 1998 lol [23:32] it takes 2 hours to download ubuntu here [23:33] lol i just started an ubuntu dl and it says 5 minutes remaining [23:34] over 3 MBps [23:35] you can tell me to shut up, most people do when i flaunt my speed [23:37] mnewton: you can pause the dl with default dl manager in ubuntu.. [23:37] what is net split? [23:38] lol [23:38] there is more than one server running irc [23:38] i use chrome for downloads - need to get a better alternative [23:38] when one disconnects its called a net split [23:38] ic [23:39] i always download ubuntu from a disstro [23:39] i use fire fox [23:39] seems to be most stable browser on linux [23:39] and use the torrent browser [23:39] using transmission but not sure i i wanna change [23:39] hey I'm using xchat - can i make it so everytime i type ic it corrects it to I see [23:40] i use pidgen i have no idea [23:42] hmm [23:44] pratchett.freenode.net [23:44] is that like Terry Pratchett?