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| hads | hey ibeardslee did you find any power racks? | 03:03 |
| ibeardslee | found some with argent, but still looking for other options of rails | 03:06 |
| hads | ibeardslee: I can get this for you; http://opengear.com/product-ip-pdu.html | 03:07 |
| hads | The AU/NZ version has IEC sockets rather than what's shown in the main image. | 03:07 |
| ibeardslee | our racks have 80 outlets in them .. 20 outlets on each of the 4 circuits | 03:09 |
| ibeardslee | generally they aren't all used | 03:10 |
| hads | Ah, something larger then. | 03:10 |
| ibeardslee | yeah .. probably need a minimum of 16 or so | 03:10 |
| ibeardslee | cascading them would be less than ideal | 03:11 |
| hads | Don't think I have access to anything bigger off the top of my head. | 03:11 |
| ibeardslee | and ideally be able to monitor each outlet | 03:12 |
| ibeardslee | being able to on/off them is less important | 03:12 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 19:57 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:14 |
| chilts | morning | 20:55 |
| thumper | morning | 21:00 |
| chrismsnz | morning! | 21:02 |
| Atamira | morning | 21:24 |
| mwhudson | morning | 21:54 |
| thumper | hi mwhudson, climbing the email mountain? | 22:13 |
| mwhudson | thumper: still on the foothills | 22:16 |
| thumper | :) | 22:16 |
| thumper | Anyone got any good laptop recommendations? | 22:17 |
| thumper | ideally I'm after an i7 quad core hyper-threaded | 22:17 |
| thumper | in a small light case with battery forever | 22:17 |
| thumper | :) | 22:17 |
| mwhudson | thumper: x220 is most of that, but it's only dual core (w/o hyperthreading anyway) | 22:18 |
| thumper | so only two effective cores? | 22:19 |
| thumper | :( | 22:19 |
| mwhudson | thumper: it has the bonus that about a million people in canonical already have one, so i'm sure oneiric will work really well on it :) | 22:19 |
| thumper | I'd really like 8, but 4 would be enough | 22:19 |
| * thumper is compiling code again | 22:19 | |
| thumper | and I want it faster | 22:19 |
| mwhudson | not aware of any small quad core i7 laptops | 22:19 |
| mwhudson | but i haven't looked in a while | 22:19 |
| thumper | If I'm to wait for my laptop bonus, that is another year away | 22:20 |
| ibeardslee | http://www.ascent.co.nz/productspecification.aspx?ItemID=397145 ? | 22:21 |
| ibeardslee | bonus is you should be able to get that with FreeDOS | 22:22 |
| ibeardslee | I'd also get the SSD and the extended battery | 22:22 |
| ibeardslee | for a bit of extra light and battery going on forevery | 22:22 |
| ibeardslee | although the extended battery does negate some of the light | 22:23 |
| ibeardslee | and while you are getting the custom build, drop the Radeon for the intel graphics | 22:23 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: I have an X220 | 22:24 |
| thumper | ibeardslee: Dead Pixel Policy - May have some pixel defects | 22:25 |
| thumper | chrismsnz: how is it? | 22:25 |
| mwhudson | thumper: i have an x220 too, to be clear :) | 22:25 |
| mwhudson | it's awesome | 22:25 |
| ibeardslee | thumper: good luck finding a laptop that doesn't have that :( | 22:25 |
| chrismsnz | 12" IPS display, i7, 160Gb SSD, 8gb ram, 6 cell battery - got it for ~$2k from lenovo's online store when they were having a sale | 22:25 |
| mwhudson | i'm not compiling c++ though | 22:26 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: it's great, very light and runs cool but has the guts to scale up when you need it | 22:26 |
| mwhudson | mind you njpatel does too, and he is | 22:26 |
| thumper | chrismsnz: but only two cores? | 22:26 |
| mwhudson | thumper: the i7 options is an i7-2620M | 22:26 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: no it has more... i think it may even be 6 | 22:26 |
| thumper | oh... | 22:26 |
| chrismsnz | I also got it with intel wireless - everything is out of the box supported in 11.04 which is a first for me and laptops | 22:27 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: maybe it is only dual core... not sure | 22:27 |
| chrismsnz | I don't have it with me right now :\ | 22:28 |
| thumper | chrismsnz: what OS? | 22:28 |
| mwhudson | thumper: are you going to uds? | 22:28 |
| thumper | mwhudson: maybe... | 22:28 |
| thumper | mwhudson: the dx sprint is the week before | 22:28 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: it came with windows but i put on ubuntu as soon as i burned the recovery discs | 22:28 |
| thumper | I'm just wondering about staying on any | 22:28 |
| mwhudson | thumper: ah so the "two weeks away" thing | 22:28 |
| thumper | yeah... | 22:29 |
| thumper | it is near the end of the 'tech year for Rachel | 22:29 |
| thumper | busy time for her project | 22:29 |
| thumper | I considered taking everyone to florida | 22:29 |
| thumper | but not sure that will fly | 22:29 |
| thumper | have to consider it | 22:29 |
| thumper | been told to look for tickets already | 22:29 |
| mwhudson | heh, i was going to suggest that as a joke | 22:29 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: there's a special offer on right now: http://shopap.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/nzweb/LenovoPortal/en_NZ/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=3634951826AE4D3881BFFF1AC5FCD957¤t-category-id=44CB7BA6E9E1E82B880F60DDF5781B5F&action=init | 22:29 |
| chrismsnz | not as good as the price I fluked | 22:30 |
| chrismsnz | but not bad | 22:30 |
| chrismsnz | I had a 35% off coupon >_< | 22:30 |
| mwhudson | chrismsnz: jealous! | 22:30 |
| thumper | mwhudson: that i7 is hyperthreaded | 22:30 |
| thumper | chrismsnz: got a coupon for me? | 22:30 |
| mwhudson | i ended up dumping nearly $4k on mine | 22:30 |
| ajmitch | looks like a nice laptop | 22:31 |
| mwhudson | (including base + on site warranty and some other bits) | 22:31 |
| ajmitch | though I tend to like laptops with bigger screens, rather than lighter models | 22:31 |
| chrismsnz | The current coupon is "THINKDO", my coupon was "LASTCHANCE" and had something to do with the end of the tax year | 22:31 |
| thumper | >Save 30% on ThinkPad X220 laptops with eCoupon THINKDO* when your configuration is $3,400 or more | 22:32 |
| chrismsnz | so I maxxed out an X220 and got $3k worth of laptop for about $2 | 22:32 |
| chrismsnz | the more you spend the more you save! | 22:32 |
| chrismsnz | mine was 33% on 2800 or over iirc | 22:32 |
| chrismsnz | ssd and other tweaks can take you over that threshold lol | 22:32 |
| chrismsnz | btw, if you get the WWAN card that's supported in ubuntu network manager out of the box also | 22:34 |
| chrismsnz | I was very surprised to find that | 22:34 |
| chrismsnz | (its not gobi) | 22:34 |
| mwhudson | oh interesting | 22:34 |
| thumper | well that is kinda shitty | 22:34 |
| thumper | you can't change the HDD for an SSD | 22:34 |
| mwhudson | uh | 22:34 |
| chrismsnz | thumper: pick the middle one and it has further customisation | 22:34 |
| mwhudson | which option did you start with? | 22:34 |
| thumper | ok | 22:34 |
| mwhudson | lenovo's configurator is a bit less shitty than the industry average | 22:35 |
| chrismsnz | Ericsson F5521gw is linux supported in-kernel | 22:35 |
| mwhudson | but still very bad | 22:35 |
| chrismsnz | I had to add the ultrabase to put it over $3400 | 22:36 |
| chrismsnz | but the price goes down to $2400 when you do lol | 22:36 |
| chrismsnz | so it's essentially free | 22:36 |
| chrismsnz | maxxing out everything gave me: | 22:36 |
| chrismsnz | Web price:NZ$3,410.14ex GST* | 22:36 |
| chrismsnz | After eCouponNZ$2,387.10 | 22:36 |
| thumper | Web price:NZ$4,330.84ex GST* | 22:37 |
| thumper | After eCouponNZ$3,031.59 | 22:37 |
| chrismsnz | _b | 22:37 |
| thumper | why is mine more I wonder | 22:37 |
| chrismsnz | warranty? | 22:37 |
| ibeardslee | would be nice to be able to configure it without WIndows | 22:37 |
| chrismsnz | ibeardslee: yeah... however you can burn recovery media so it's easy to sell it later with factory software load | 22:38 |
| chrismsnz | ibeardslee: trying to sell my linux netbook (the 5102 i got from ascent via you) and it's a pita haha | 22:38 |
| thumper | no | 22:38 |
| ibeardslee | why selling it? | 22:38 |
| chrismsnz | ibeardslee: I have 3 laptops and a desktop now | 22:39 |
| ibeardslee | ahh | 22:39 |
| chrismsnz | older mbp, netbook, x220 and gaming pc | 22:39 |
| ibeardslee | is it on trademe? | 22:39 |
| chrismsnz | yep | 22:39 |
| ibeardslee | link? | 22:39 |
| chrismsnz | http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=391798120 | 22:39 |
| chrismsnz | good deal! considering i bought it a year ago for $1100 | 22:40 |
| chrismsnz | just won't sell though lol | 22:40 |
| ibeardslee | pity the various open/free mailing lists won't allow for sale type mails | 22:41 |
| chilts | morning fun: http://i.imgur.com/Bjnba.jpg (SFW) | 22:46 |
| thumper | http://zareason.com/shop/Verix-2.html with 160gig SSD and 8gig ram only comes to 2082 USD | 22:47 |
| thumper | a little big, but full HD | 22:47 |
| thumper | oh, and a quad core i7 | 22:47 |
| ajmitch | plus how much shipping? | 22:47 |
| ajmitch | & then GST on top of that when you bring it in, I guess | 22:48 |
| ajmitch | I'm impressed that you can get it with 16GB of RAM though :) | 22:48 |
| thumper | yeah, you do get hit for GST | 22:49 |
| thumper | with the exchange rate now though, worth thinking about | 22:49 |
| hads | They don't ship International anymore. | 22:49 |
| mwhudson | thumper: just register for gst already you lazy bum | 22:49 |
| thumper | mwhudson: but then I have to fill out those returns | 22:49 |
| ajmitch | so it'd mean getting it through a friend in the US & getting them to send it | 22:50 |
| * mwhudson likes his six-monthly payments from ird | 22:50 | |
| thumper | mwhudson: how much do you get back? | 22:50 |
| thumper | surely it isn't that much | 22:50 |
| hads | Depends how much you spend | 22:50 |
| mwhudson | thumper: don't you have an accountant? gst returns really aren't that bad | 22:50 |
| mwhudson | thumper: i rent an office in town, so it's quite a bit | 22:50 |
| thumper | ah... | 22:50 |
| thumper | I don't | 22:50 |
| thumper | my gst spending isn't worth the hastle | 22:51 |
| mwhudson | well, it's your money :) | 22:51 |
| chilts | mwhudson: are you freelance/contracting? | 22:51 |
| mwhudson | hah, you can get 16 gigs of ram in that verix | 22:51 |
| hads | There is a cheats way around GST, use a freight forwarding company where you can fill out your own customs declaration. | 22:51 |
| mwhudson | chilts: for tax purposes, yes | 22:52 |
| chilts | heh | 22:52 |
| mwhudson | (but my only client is canonical and they treat me more like an employee than a contractor, but there's no canonical nz for me to be an employee of) | 22:52 |
| chilts | ah, I didn't realise ... I thought you guys were employees | 22:53 |
| chilts | so essentially you're contracting to an overseas firm? | 22:53 |
| thumper | chilts: we kinda are | 22:53 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 22:53 |
| chilts | right, I see | 22:53 |
| chrismsnz | mwhudson: interesting! What do you do for canonical? | 22:53 |
| mwhudson | chrismsnz: linaro infrastructure bits | 22:53 |
| chrismsnz | mwhudson: oh, nice :) | 22:54 |
| chilts | mwhudson: where is your office in town? do you have any spare desks whhich you might sometimes want to 'hire out'? | 22:56 |
| chilts | I'm currently contracting 5 days a week, but I expect that'll come down to 4 soon | 22:57 |
| mwhudson | chilts: i'm at the bizdojo | 22:57 |
| chilts | and may still keep coming into town for my 'day off' | 22:57 |
| chilts | bizdojo? I'll look it up | 22:57 |
| chrismsnz | I had no idea that bizdojo existed | 22:57 |
| chilts | http://www.bizdojo.com/ I guess | 22:57 |
| mwhudson | yes | 22:58 |
| mwhudson | it's pretty new | 22:58 |
| chilts | I found another place like that a couple of months ago, it was up in the Terrace I think | 22:58 |
| mwhudson | chilts: altspace? | 22:58 |
| chilts | ay, that'll be the one | 22:58 |
| chilts | hmm, can't find prices though | 22:59 |
| chilts | mwhudson: mind if I pop in sometime and take a look around? I'd rather get shown it by someone else rather than the people who own it :) (if that's allowed) :) | 23:00 |
| mwhudson | chilts: sure, no problem | 23:00 |
| chilts | any particular time okay with you? I could do lunchtime or maybe later afternoon on Thursday? | 23:01 |
| chilts | (any lunchtime I should clarify) | 23:01 |
| mwhudson | any time is fine with me (with a little warning) | 23:02 |
| chilts | would you be around at about 5pm today? | 23:02 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 23:03 |
| chilts | cool, will see you around then then ... thanks :) | 23:03 |
| mwhudson | :) | 23:03 |
| thumper | is there a way to force firefox or chrome to apply an xml-stylesheet when looking at a local file? | 23:06 |
| thumper | when I put the file on a host and server through apache, it does | 23:06 |
| thumper | but not accessing the file directly | 23:06 |
| thumper | is it apache doing the transformation? | 23:06 |
| chilts | I wouldn't have thought so, probably the browser | 23:07 |
| chilts | but I don't know how (sorry) | 23:07 |
| chilts | does it link to the XSL from the XML (and if so, is the link correct)? | 23:07 |
| thumper | <?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="styleguide.xsl"?> | 23:09 |
| thumper | it seems to be | 23:09 |
| thumper | the file is certainly there | 23:09 |
| hads | Possibly the mimetype being sent | 23:13 |
| snail | thumper: that trick only works with xsl 1.0, check the version | 23:14 |
| thumper | yeah, it is version 1.0 | 23:15 |
| thumper | it works fine over apache | 23:15 |
| thumper | but not locally | 23:15 |
| snail | i've got an example on disk that works with : <?xml-stylesheet href="rgom2.xsl" type="text/xsl"?> | 23:17 |
| snail | I always use a preceeding <?xml version="1.0"?> | 23:18 |
| snail | no idea whether that matters | 23:18 |
| thumper | hmm... if I add a symlink to /var/www and access through localhost, it works and applies the template | 23:18 |
| thumper | so best guess is the mime type being sent | 23:18 |
| thumper | :( | 23:19 |
| thumper | fooey | 23:20 |
| chilts | Hong Kong Fooey? | 23:21 |
| chilts | it seems it 'Phooey' :) | 23:21 |
| chilts | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Phooey | 23:22 |
| chilts | heh, I'm on a bit of a random today | 23:22 |
| snail | thumper: mime type or security | 23:23 |
| * thumper found xsltproc | 23:24 | |
| snail | thumper: if you know regexps, you may want to upgrade to saxon / xslt 2.0 to take advantage of them | 23:26 |
| thumper | nope | 23:26 |
| * thumper wants simple and easy, and 20 minute fix | 23:26 | |
| chilts | to be honest, as soon as people say they are using XSLT, I suggest to use something else (Python, Perl, whatever) ... but I guess that's not an option here? | 23:33 |
| snail | chilts: yeah, unless you're dealing with document-oriented stuff usually something else is better | 23:47 |
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