[00:32] is it possible to make ubuntu server in to a secondary domain controller in my Active directory forest [00:32] widnows 2008 [00:39] Im not aware of anything fully funtional but heres a link to something that could help https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-dc.html [00:44] For AD I believe you need Samba 4 [01:14] twb, have they fully released that yet? Or is it still in testing? [01:14] I don't know [01:15] They aren't in main/ as at lucid, which was enough for me to dismiss it [01:37] quentusrex, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/raid/mdadm/ANNOUNCE [01:38] fluvvell, do you know of a unified annouce list or rss feed? [01:38] druciferre, which acls? Are you talking windows file shares or apache acls ? [01:39] neither... I'm talking about the service from the package acl in ubuntu [01:40] (i.e. sudo apt-get install acl) [01:40] setfacl ... [01:40] quentusrex, slashdot has a lot of announcements - do you visit there? [01:40] fluvvell, I haven't ina while. [01:46] druciferre: I think those are "posix acl"s [01:46] Yes, they are [01:47] ``Most of the Unix and Unix-like operating systems (e.g. Linux,^[1] BSD, or Solaris) support POSIX.1e ACLs, based on an early POSIX draft that was abandoned.'' [01:47] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Access_control_list#Filesystem_ACLs [01:51] okay thanks [01:51] twb, i don't see anything in the article about whether the acl table is stored on the hard drive (i.e. if I put the hard drive in another system will it still see the acls?) [01:51] druciferre: I don't see where else they could be stored. [01:52] twb, I imagine they could be stored in /etc/ somewhere [01:52] druciferre: I very much doubt that is the case, but ICBW [02:13] druciferre, I have acl installed, but have yet to find a package or piece of software that requires them or uses them === med_out is now known as med === med is now known as medberry === medberry is now known as med_out [04:03] gents, trying to remove dhcp client (establishing static IP) and apt-get remove dhcp-client or dhcp-client3 aren't working [04:03] any suggestions? [04:06] lickalott, I eventually setup my router to provide dhcp and assign certain computers certain ips based on their mac's [04:06] already done [04:07] lickalott, then why are you removing dhcp ? [04:07] i'm trying to figure out why i lose my znc every once in a while. [04:07] sometimes, the whole thing, sometimes just a random user/bot [04:07] starting at the network and working up [04:08] I have never used a ZNC, so someone else may have to help in that regards. [04:49] lickalott, dpkg -l | grep dhcp [04:58] can I rsynch a mac OSX to a linux server [04:58] anyone done this [04:59] rsync(1) works on Linux. IIRC it historically had problems on OS X, but presumably these have since been fixed. [05:02] and I would not then need to brother with time machine [05:04] Well, time machine is probably smarter than a simple rsync [05:05] but it does ntot do offsite [05:05] so if something happen were the machine and the backup is located [05:06] time machine is closer to rsnapshot instead of just rsync. [05:06] ahh [05:07] Yep, although rsnapshot is really just "cp -al cur $(date -I)" + rsync [05:08] ahh [05:08] does it compress the files sent, or archive in a tar or just send it over [05:08] mirror coppied [05:08] rsync should only send stuff that has changed [05:09] qman__ just saw that. tks! [05:11] for ubuntu server rspanshot is like time machine [05:12] I thought time machine hooked into various syscalls [05:14] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Time_Machine_(software)#How_it_works [05:14] I'm wrong, time machine is literally just rsnapshot [05:15] Of course, hard links themselves are implemented in a royally fucked up way on OS X -- inside the HFS+ filesystem driver [05:15] oh that fucked up [05:15] so time machine is just a nice front end GUI for rsnapshot [05:16] mrroth: sure looks that way [05:16] Well, and an API for apps to talk to it [05:16] so I wonder why then I can't send my time machine offsite if rsnpshop can do offsite [05:17] Also rsnapshot can use ssh or rsyncd protocols to be remote pull-based, whereas TM looks to be local only [05:17] yea or to a time capulses backup [05:17] and the media to backup to must be HFS [05:17] mrroth: sorry, when I said "literally" I meant it's using the exact same technique -- it's not running rsnapshot code itself [05:17] mrroth: HFS+ [05:17] mrroth: HFS is not HFS+ [05:17] oh and oh yea hfs+ [05:18] yea hfs was used in mac classic HFS + is used now [05:18] oh I see [05:18] Apparently Time Machine can use AFP to another host on the LAN [05:19] Obviously this is inferior to ssh, which doesn't care which network it's on, and further is encrypted over the wire. [05:21] "Although it is unsupported and potentially corrupting the backups after a while, users and manufacturers have configured Linux servers and network-attached storage systems in a similar fashion and used them to store Time Machine backups. ahh [05:21] hmm [05:22] yea I wonder how OSX server gets backup maybe third party tools or rsnch [05:23] mrroth: http://8help.osu.edu/1247.html has some ideas... [05:24] oh wow Backup, by Apple, is a program provided to .Mac users. It is a simple-to-use backup program that allows users to backup to their .Mac account, a second hard drive, [05:26] mrroth: Carbon Copy Cloner seems to be an rsync wrapper with some OSX-specific enhancements... I've not used it, but it might work for you if you know and like rsync. [05:27] sweet [05:27] I will check it out [05:28] If you want to do it the harder way, see http://www.bombich.com/rsync.html [05:29] ahh I see [05:29] thanks [05:35] jmarsden: why not just ports/fink? [05:35] I guess if it's not a dev box he might not already have ports set up... [05:35] I'm not sure, I think there is Mac specific metadata that the standard rsync port does not back up. [05:36] jmarsden: resource forks, sure, but nobody uses them much anymore [05:36] Ah, apparently there are some other things, I see [05:36] Suck 80s-style vendor unix :-/ [05:37] I never understood why people want to go back to the unix wars [05:38] I think I'd just say that if you are running an Apple-specific OS on Apple-specific server hardware, you probably should use an Apple-specific backup too. Why people pick Apple or WIndows etc is a *whole* different topic :) === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [05:39] jmarsden: granted === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === smb` is now known as smb [06:57] I'm trying to declare a bridge without a "bridge_ports ethN" line; is this ok? With it, it worked ok, without it, the bridge is never created [06:58] Nobody has any thoughts on how to deal with that? [07:01] Ah, perhaps "bridge_ports none". [07:04] Well, I'll show you what I have... [07:05] Hm, apparently I always have bridge_ports [07:06] Yes. There's actually a separate manpage for that stuff, bridge-utils-interfaces(5). You must have a bridge_ports for the bridge to be created, but you can use "none" to have it created without initially being attached to any interfaces. [07:06] Learn something new every day. Particularly when it's a new hidden manpage. :-) [07:07] cjs: hum, I attach it but don't assign an IP [07:07] IOW you can reach the VMs bridged to it, but not the VM server itself [07:08] That's quite normal. No need for an IP, really, unless you want the host running the bridge to talk on that network. [07:08] If you want to reach the VM server itself, just assign an IP on that network to the bridge device. [07:08] (A common mistake is instead to assign it to one of the interfaces connected to the bridge.) [07:09] OK, sorry, I'm used to dealing with stupid people :-) [07:09] twb: aww, you shouldnt call me that :P [07:09] Probably just ignorant. Not everybody has a couple of decades of network administration under his belt. :-) [08:10] hi [09:12] hi there [09:12] I've got error when apache2's virtualhost config larger than 1024 [09:13] Error: fcgi: socket file descriptor (2975) is larger than FD_SETSIZE (1024), you probably need to rebuild Apache with a larger FD_SETSIZE [09:13] I have re-build apache with all FD_SETSIZE variable set to higher that value but still got that problem :( [09:14] please help me to solve this! [09:14] does this apply for ubuntu server too? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server [09:14] anyone? [09:16] aliverius_: do you think that ubuntu server is different from ubuntu desktop? [09:17] not that much... my worries are more abuot running it headless [09:17] anyway i will take that as a yes [09:18] is a yes, you can. VMWare Server works as a service, does not need GUI, it exposes a web interface [09:19] great :) [09:19] i was using kvm so far [09:19] all was good [09:19] till i changed to an atom board [09:19] <_ruben> vmware server is eol though [09:19] i didnt know it doesnt support h/w virt [09:20] <_ruben> hope you're not planning on doing serious virtualiation without h/w virt [09:20] so now i am constranained to vmware-server [09:23] _ruben: a router [09:26] and it fails to install too [09:26] so far [09:26] * aliverius_ misses kvm [09:36] i should buy a second mobo to play the router role [09:39] Hello, I'm trying to install an LDAP client on Ubuntu 11.04 and I can't get it to work. Is this the right place to ask questions about it? [09:42] hi, I have incoming ip packets from an ip x.x.x.x that I would like to give a low priority, can someone tell me how to do it ? [10:05] <_ruben> aliverius_: why do you even need a seperate instance for the router role? [10:05] <_ruben> maxagaz: define "low priority" [10:08] _ruben, I'm sure how it works, I guess all incoming ip packets have a same priority in the queue, I would like packets from a given ip to have a lower priority, so that they are processed after others === taneli is now known as trapmax [11:31] Anyone fancy tackling the nut merge? bug #811976 .. doesn't look too complex. [11:31] Launchpad bug 811976 in nut "Please merge nut 2.6.1-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811976 === simon____ is now known as danners [11:33] hey i want to move one installation of a server to another system with all of the data and serverconfiguration should be the same. how would i do it? [11:33] danners: take the hd's out and swap them over. :) [11:33] Daviey: the old one is a vm [11:34] danners: rsync or !clone (and copy /etc.) [11:34] !clone | danners [11:34] danners: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [11:35] Daviey: rsync shouldn't destroy the package index and also copy the configuration right? [11:37] danners: correct. [11:37] Daviey: thanks will try that [11:51] I have ethernet camera with an ip that I don't know, how can I find it if I plug it to a laptop ? [12:13] maxagaz, do you have any guesses? [12:16] quentusrex, use nmap ? [12:17] maxagaz, I mean do you have any guesses what the ip or subnet would be. [12:17] yes, using nmap would be probably one of the better options. [12:17] quentusrex, no, I have no clue === dreaded66 is now known as fyrfaktry [12:20] maxagaz, best I could say would be to try the common ones. [12:20] quentusrex, okay, thanks [12:21] maxagaz, you might also be able to reset the camera to factory to defaults [12:21] this might set the ip back to the default. [12:22] quentusrex, you're right, that's what I should do [12:22] it might be fun to learn how to locate that needle in the haystack, but the faster route would be to reset it. === zz_ng_ is now known as ng_ [12:38] hello! I'm trying to build nginx from source, but am having a difficult time specifying the library/header paths correctly [12:38] nginx wants to see pcre and ssl libraries, so I have both libpcre3-dev and libssl-dev [12:38] but I can't quite determine the correct paths [13:43] * CrazyGir is all set [13:43] nginx is smart enough to figure it out itself :) [14:05] New bug: #812131 in mysql-5.1 (main) "operation="mknod" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" denied_mask="c"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812131 [14:07] jamespage: what were the packages that you wanted me to sponsor? [14:07] hey RoAkSoAx [14:07] lp:~hudson-ubuntu/+junk/maven-stapler-plugin [14:08] and lp:~hudson-ubuntu/+junk/stapler-adjunct-timeline [14:08] jamespage: build agains ppa:hudson-ubuntu/ppa? [14:08] use ppa:james-page/jenkins-upload-testing [14:10] jamespage: ok cool, ;) [14:11] RoAkSoAx: thanks - home straight now with Jenkins :-) [14:17] jamespage: hehe [14:18] lynxman: http://9gag.com/gag/170426 [14:24] I have a CIFS share mounted in /etc/fstab. That share goes down periodically for maintenance so I need to figure out how to auto remount the share when it's dropped. Any ideas? [14:25] kpettit: cron job? [14:26] that was going to be my plan B. I was hoping there is something that automatically does it, but I guess not? [14:28] kpettit: well, something has to probe that that specific share is available. don't know how it can be done automagically. [14:29] kpettit: cron can be as simple as issueing 'mount -a' maybe [14:29] worth a try. [14:30] Thanks for the suggestion [14:30] kpettit: just so long as the cifs share is set 'auto' (for mount -a to work) [14:31] got ya. Doing some testing now. [14:38] Ursinha: lol! === ng_ is now known as zz_ng_ [15:51] New bug: #812367 in bind9 (main) "package bind9 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1ubuntu0.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812367 [17:26] New bug: #812423 in mysql-5.1 (main) "mysql upstart job hangs if database directory not mounted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812423 === mcahornsirup_ is now known as mcahornsirup [18:57] In `update-rc.d xend defaults SS KK` where do the SS|KK values come from? somewhere in /var/lib? [18:58] the suggested values [19:08] Question: during a pxeboot preseed install, the install is creating the md raids as md/0 and md/1 but grub is trying to install to md0 and is erroring out [19:19] jamespage: ping === ejat- is now known as ejat === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-nom [20:13] how do i chmod 777 all folders + files in a directory? [20:14] best way to install packages from a newer release of ubuntu server into a older release [20:14] like say 11.xx onto 10.04LTS [20:15] just download the packages or is there a trick with apt-get? [20:15] RoAkSoAx: pong [20:16] greentea-: do'nt do it [20:17] greentea-: it is a terrible idea [20:17] doesn't matter [20:17] I need a newer release of nut-ups [20:18] I don't see that package in the Ubuntu repositories. [20:18] might just be called nut [20:18] anyways 10.04lts has 2.4.3? and I want 2.5 or whatever it's up to now because they fixed some brain damagve [20:18] you can't mix software from different versions [20:19] so wtf do I know then is what I am asking [20:19] compiling it is not really an option [20:19] you can control your language please [20:19] never :P [20:19] greentea-: then leave the channel [20:19] I was joking, calm down :P [20:20] greentea, what are you? 10? [20:20] 37 [20:20] I can't even control my lang in real life anymore [20:20] mind is going, oh well [20:20] greentea-: if you mix software packages from different distros you'll find it will mess up your dependencies and cause issues [20:20] ikonia: that's why I am here [20:20] and why I asked what's the best way [20:20] I only need the nut package [20:20] greentea-: the best way it so package the software for your version [20:21] it's a c3 diskless [20:21] greentea-: linked and built against the library versions on your system [20:21] compiling it is NOT going to happen [20:21] greentea-: you can log a wishlist/update on launchpad.net [20:21] unless I setup a buildhost vm somewhere [20:21] someone else may do the update for you [20:21] You might be able to find a PPA for it, but you should be aware of what a PPA is and what it provides. [20:21] I can setup a buildhost somewhere I guess [20:21] buildhosts are pointless, use launchpad's ppa [20:22] whoa [20:22] this is cool [20:22] I was going to have a buildhost though anyways [20:22] for compiling coreboot, openwrt, and some other stuff [20:23] my buildhost is just the place I store all my patchs :) [20:23] !ppa [20:23] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa [20:23] this is a vm so I am not wasting any resources other than disk space [20:23] (just for the warning) [20:23] Pici: I am not that worried about it [20:24] basically this embedded box monitors a ups [20:24] jamespage: packages uploaded [20:24] then logs into a bunch of vmware hosts and runs vm and host shutdown scripts [20:24] followed by shutting down the nas's and san's [20:24] only package going to be non-standard would be nut-ups [20:24] everything else is staying stock [20:24] greentea-: thats fine, just needed to say it :) [20:25] What's the best search app for Ubuntu? I've got about 8TB and slocate isn't doing it for me. [20:26] how would I find out if someone has already made a nut deb for 10.04lts [20:26] man I used to know this stuff, damn head [20:26] kpettit, heh, I always use find :) [20:27] I shudder to think of that on a 8TB system. [20:27] find good on mine [20:27] but the average file is 10gb [20:27] doing that on a 8tb mailstore though :) [20:28] wow, how long does it take you to do a find on that? [20:28] RoAkSoAx: thankyou! [20:28] I'm mainly trying to do stuff like "locate *.xslt" trying to find files I forgot about, etc. [20:28] patdk-wk: striped mirrors? [20:29] royk, currently, concat :) [20:29] erm, no redundancy? [20:29] nope [20:29] playing with matches and petrol... [20:30] it's only 8 drives, what's the chances :) [20:30] about 100% chance of failure within 6-12 months :P [20:31] damn, I'm on like year 4 [20:31] I do change out the drive the first signs of issues [20:31] hopefully I'll get my replacements in sept, and I can start on the raid6 [20:32] it's quite usual the first sign of failure for a drive is a dead drive [20:32] * kpettit uses a Drobo [20:32] * RoyK uses ZFS [20:32] royk, never had that, normally I notice slowdowns and delays long before it goes dead [20:32] I only scared of the disk to stop spinning [20:32] patdk-wk: that happens too, yes [20:33] but I don't think I have ever had that issue since my FH ibm 10meg drives [20:33] patdk-wk: but a drive losing a head is also quite common [20:33] never had that :( [20:33] just saying it happens [20:33] ya [20:34] my worst is when drives just won't spin at all [20:34] so rather use raid[56] or striped mirrors, the latter for performance [20:34] only ever had that happen on raid systems so far [20:34] random i/o performance on raid[56] isn't very good [20:34] well, 90% of this data is replaceable anyways :) [20:34] it's basically just online storage for all the damned dvd's and cd's I have [20:35] then my only question is: how long will it take to rip all those CDs and DVDs if one drive fails now? ;) [20:36] well, just what was missing on that one drive :) [20:36] not all the drives [20:36] if it was striped, ya it would be hell [20:36] i'm going to try mixing packages and if it blows up [20:36] oh well [20:36] temp box anyways [20:37] greentea-, without rebuilding the package? [20:37] I would be suprised if it installed, due to missing deps [20:37] i'm seeing if i can meet the dependencies [20:38] oh wait [20:38] that's true [20:38] if I have a source package then I can just do a rebuild right? [20:38] * RoyK setup a home server for his brother a couple of months back, two 2TB drives in RAID-5, and then added a new drive a few weeks ago - it took perhaps 12 hours to rebuild the raid, but no downtime :) [20:38] I don't have to figure out how to make my own tree etc [20:38] yep [20:38] apt-get source nut-ups [20:38] ok that works :) [20:38] apt-get build-dep nut-ups [20:39] dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc [20:39] I need to get the .src file first right? [20:39] nope [20:39] atleast not if it's in apt [20:39] I normally just modify my sources.list to get it [20:40] is there a way to list what version that will pull down [20:40] or specifiy it [20:40] patdk-wk: iirc the 'correct' way is to add a new file in /etc/apt/sources.d [20:40] royk still not good [20:41] I wish I could just do dep-src ..., and apt-get source would get it [20:41] but it won't [20:41] it will only get the source to the binary version it finds [20:41] yeah which is the old one [20:41] so I find it easier to just do a search/replace of sources.list get it, and then change it back [20:41] patdk-wk: the debian/ directory is the key - just copy that to the new source tree [20:42] patdk-wk: you mean change the sources to like 11 [20:42] fetch the file [20:42] then swap it back [20:42] yep [20:42] I thought about that, wasn't sure how well that would work [20:42] New bug: #812539 in cloud-init (main) "FQDN does not get set correctly in /etc/hosts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812539 [20:42] just make sure you apt-get update after each change [20:42] yeah I knew that [20:42] :P [20:42] well, for apt-get source it's fine [20:43] for apt-get install, results will vary :) [20:43] i'lll setup a buildhost vm tonight then, thx [21:02] New bug: #812548 in nova (universe) "bridge not set up correctly with LXC and all-in-one system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812548 [21:05] whats wrong with locate, it works pretty well, faster then windows index dare i say [21:06] hi [21:06] New bug: #812553 in nova (universe) "LXC instance fails to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812553 [21:09] lynxman, bug 812539 [21:09] Launchpad bug 812539 in cloud-init "FQDN does not get set correctly in /etc/hosts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812539 [21:09] hey guys, i'm trying to get the nagios-libvirt package to compile on my box. it says that i need the 'libvirt library' -- i have it installed. here is the package that i'm referring to: http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/nagios-virt/ has anyone else experienced this? [21:09] or tried to install this nagios plugin? [21:10] smoser: oh man... :/ [21:10] smoser: let me have a look, I don't setup the FQDN afaik === med_out is now known as med === med is now known as medberry [21:11] smoser: adam_g already provided a patch looks like, although according to the manual 127.0.1.1 should be setup as I did [21:11] adam_g: don't you agree? :) [21:11] yeah. [21:11] we need to set things up as debian says [21:11] not how lynxman or adam_g say [21:12] smoser: +1 on you sir [21:12] and also have to deal with eucalyptus (or other cloud providers) where local-hostname might not be set up [21:12] (in eucalyptus local-hostname is some bogus value) [21:12] (ip address) [21:12] so what is the conensus? [21:12] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html in 5.1.2 [21:12] adam_g: I think neither you or me [21:13] ok [21:13] i'll let you all sort it out [21:13] and please update bug [21:13] i have to go now. [21:13] adam_g: your patch looks good though, it just needs to have the fallback scenario [21:13] smoser: have fun ;) [21:13] lynxman: well if what ive done violates debian spec, lets change that [21:14] adam_g: it just does in that it doesn't fall back if there's no FQDN, whereas I just hardcoded the fallback [21:14] oh, one sec. let me actually read the spec :) [21:14] adam_g: sure [22:03] is there a limit to files I can put under one folder? [22:03] I want to cache 50K avatars, do I need sub folders? [22:23] bencc: i'm very certain that you can do that [22:23] bencc: not really a limit.. but.. it will slow down for certain operations. [22:24] bencc: you may be better served by using hashed directories above the dir you have the files in. === Ursinha-nom is now known as Ursinha [22:26] SpamapS: hashed directories? [22:26] how can I find out what file system I have now? ext3 or ext4 [22:26] if you can fit 50k worth of html elements in your web browser everyday, i'm pretty sure you can fit 50k with of files.. [22:27] bencc: blkid [22:27] bencc: if you put 50,000 files in a directory, you will cause a lot of random I/O reading them. If you break it up into 10 dirs of 5,000 files each, the I/O will be less random. [22:27] bencc: ext3 performs similarly [22:28] if you're browsing it sure, might cause i/o [22:29] but for hosted files, where they know where to look for, less so. [22:29] Kazilla: inodes are a single FS block each, so thats 50,000 * block size, which is usually 4k, so thats 195MB of inodes.. [22:30] yeah single lookups are pretty fast [22:30] thanks to the index support [22:30] how do I use blkid to know the file system? [22:30] bencc: just do 'mount' [22:30] that tells you the fs [22:30] of all mounted filesystems [22:31] ok, ext3 [22:32] SpamapS: with dir_index, 50k files may work well, but then, with 250k files, it's still dead slow [22:32] is this why facebook use haystack [22:32] * RoyK just discovered a 250k file folder [22:32] just chucking that in there [22:32] something like mongodb gridfs is nice [22:33] but there is no good server plugin for serving files [22:35] RoyK: I would expect an index that works well w/ 50k to work well with 250k ... whats the trouble? [22:35] RoyK: Is it not just a b-tree? [22:36] bencc: mapping urls to Key/Value stores is pretty trivial... [22:37] whats the optimum way to serve a web application anyway? if you're running a cluster. central storage? distributed storage? [22:37] well web applications shall i say [22:40] anyone know where is the best place to talk about web infrastructures? [22:54] if i want to run fluxbox on ubuntu, and dont want all the crap that comes with the desktop edition, is there a reason not to install the server version? [23:23] SuperMiguel, don't install server unless you are OK with typing in terminal [23:34] is there anything better to view disk io than iotop? [23:34] my linode is saying it's high, but iotop is minimal [23:35] Ethos: dstat maybe. [23:35] thanks === medberry is now known as med_out