| dpm | good morning all | 07:34 |
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| andrejz | morning dpm | 07:35 |
| dpm | hey andrejz :) | 07:40 |
| andrejz | i was wondering if langpack for 11.10 are already being generated | 07:41 |
| artnay | what's the deal with gnome-panel? it's totally without translations. previously it was called gnome-panel-20 and was translated 100-percently | 07:43 |
| artnay | the same applies to okular which has been divided into several parts - none of them have translations at the moment | 07:44 |
| artnay | and I'd suggest to promote lightdm and deja-dup, they're somewhat hidden now (1351 -> 1425 of 1444 results) as they're on the same page as e.g. subversion and rpm | 07:45 |
| artnay | and is there a way (maybe some url change to this page: https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/+products-with-translations ) to list the most recent translatable projects on launchpad? | 07:48 |
| andrejz | @artnay: i think the problem with okular is that one template has been split into several parts, and i don't know how message sharing works with that | 07:48 |
| andrejz | maybe dpm can tell you more | 07:48 |
| andrejz | as for pririty of lightdm the template has been just recenlty imported and nobody has increased it's visibility | 07:49 |
| andrejz | i will do that right away | 07:49 |
| artnay | andrejz: looks like it but it's not ok to lose all translated strings | 07:49 |
| artnay | andrejz: great, I thought you would do it ;) | 07:49 |
| andrejz | @artnay: i agree it's not ok to lose strings :), just don't know how the system works in that case. | 07:50 |
| artnay | andrejz: do you have any idea about the most recent projects? | 07:51 |
| artnay | LP is in a need of better sorting | 07:52 |
| dpm | artnay, andrejz is correct with okular: upstream changed the source package structure and we needed to change it in LP too. I sorted out last week: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/okular/+imports so the next oneiric language pack will contain the translations. Btw, no strings are lost | 07:52 |
| artnay | there's probably a bug somewhere | 07:52 |
| artnay | dpm: good to hear | 07:52 |
| artnay | dpm: can you shine some light on gnome-panel? won't it be depreciated for new oneiric installs? | 07:53 |
| andrejz | @artnay: just increased priority of lightdm and decreased priority for gdm | 07:53 |
| dpm | thanks andrejz | 07:53 |
| dpm | artnay, not sure what happens with gnome-panel. Let me check... | 07:54 |
| artnay | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/gnome-panel/+pots/gnome-panel/ | 07:54 |
| andrejz | as far as gnome-panel is concerned a new package name is present gnome-panel-3 instead of gnome-panel-2 before | 07:55 |
| andrejz | i think that's the problem | 07:55 |
| artnay | andrejz: true the content is almost the same as before | 07:56 |
| artnay | but... | 07:56 |
| artnay | maybe that package should be promoted as well, don't you think? | 07:57 |
| andrejz | yes i will. i manually imported the file a couple of days ago, but forgot to increase the priority :(. Good to have you to remind of those slips :) | 07:58 |
| artnay | andrejz: and duplicity as well. I think deja-dup takes messages from duplicity | 07:58 |
| andrejz | ok | 07:58 |
| artnay | well, not sure about duplicity, it's a backend after all | 07:59 |
| dpm | andrejz, I think the problem is that the gnome-panel-2.0 template was disabled and the gnome-panel-3.0 (as gnome-panel) was accepted, and we should have rather renamed gnome-panel-2.0 to gnome-panel | 07:59 |
| andrejz | but gnome-panel-2.0 isn't going to be used anymore, correct? | 08:00 |
| dpm | no, but it contains lots of messages and translations that presumably need to be carried out to gnome-panel-3.0 | 08:00 |
| artnay | gnome-panel contains all those shell strings. maybe those could be merged into the gnome-panel-2.0 | 08:00 |
| andrejz | oh, i see where the problem is | 08:02 |
| andrejz | basically template gnome-panel-3.0 should be renamed to gnome-panel-2.0 to use the existing translations | 08:02 |
| andrejz | so probably the name should be changed in natty to gnome-panel ? | 08:03 |
| artnay | andrejz: why in natty? it doesn't exist there, does it? | 08:05 |
| andrejz | @artnay: if you want to use message sharing (transfer translations from one ubuntu version to the other), packages need to have the same template name | 08:05 |
| artnay | and plain renaming won't do it, gnome-panel contains gnome3/shell additions to gnome-panel-2.0 | 08:05 |
| artnay | andrejz: ah, ok | 08:05 |
| andrejz | so if you have evoluton in natty and evolution in oneiric translations are automatically synced | 08:06 |
| artnay | true, true | 08:06 |
| andrejz | but in this case gnome-panel in named "gnome-panel-2.0" and we cannot name it that way in 11.10 cause that would be incorrect (since we are shipping gnome-panel-3.0") | 08:06 |
| andrejz | so (dpm can you confirm this) the best way is to change the template name from "gnome-panel-2.0" to "gnome-panel" in all supported ubuntu versions, which still share messages amongst themselves | 08:07 |
| dpm | andrejz, correct. I've changed the name of gnome-panel-2.0 to gnome-panel in oneiric (and the path to po/gnome-panel-3.0). I'll now change the names in previous releases | 08:08 |
| andrejz | wii, i knew the correct answer, thanks for the report artnay :) | 08:09 |
| andrejz | @artnay: there has been a lot of gnome-2.0, -3.0 template changing in this cycle, some packages already have names 3.2 :) | 08:12 |
| artnay | dpm: one question remains. is there a way to list the most recent translatable projects on LP? | 08:36 |
| dpm | artnay, I don't know (my hunch is that there isn't). I'd recommend asking on #launchpad, where they'll be able to tell you in more detail | 08:37 |
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| artnay | dpm: there isn't but I created bug #812243 | 11:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 812243 in launchpad "Allow translatable projects to be sorted in more versatile ways (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812243 | 11:39 |
| dpm | ah, thanks artnay | 11:40 |
| artnay | if you guys have more filtering/sorting needs, feel free to add them | 11:40 |
| dpm | I've subscribed to it for now | 11:41 |
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