[01:56] <jdeslip> anyone around for the meeting?
[01:57] <rww> \o
[01:59] <jdeslip> The Agenda is currently empty.  though we did mentiok the picnic is coming up last time
[02:02] <jdeslip> Ok, well I guess we will see if there are amy annoumcements and they ajourn until next time
[02:03] <rww> I can do an entertaining dance if you'd like. Apart from that, I have nothing either ;(
[02:05] <jdeslip> ok - the linux picnic is Aug 27 and indont think there is a strict registration deadline.  so next meeting is fine
[02:05] <jdeslip> so... any other annoukcements?
[02:06] <jdeslip> OkieDokie Meeting Begins - Meeting Ends
[02:08] <eps> huh?
[02:09] <rww> eps: you missed the meeting. it was very long and involved a lot of discussions about varied things.
[02:09] <rww> (one of these phrases is not a lie)
[02:09] <eps> Grumble, grumble. I blame Carmageddon.
[02:15] <jdeslip> might have been the only meeting where everyone agreed on everything though
[02:20]  * pleia2 schedule fail
[02:20] <pleia2> sorry, I completely forgot
[02:20] <rww> that's okay, so did everyone else
[02:20] <eps> No reports on Ubuntu Developer Week?
[02:20] <eps> No excitement about the impending release of 10.04.3 LTS?
[02:20] <rww> I was at about half of it. UDW was as interesting as usual.
[02:20] <rww> Nobody cares about point releases :P
[02:20] <eps> No awesome plans for the Linux Picnic?
[02:20] <pleia2> dholbach wrote some summaries from UDW on http://ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com/
[02:22] <pleia2> oh, I never added the picnic page to the project page, oops
[02:22] <pleia2> well, it's coming together here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Picnix20
[02:22] <pleia2> (adding it to the projects page now)
[02:23] <grantbow> I had pizza with sbay.org and Ian last night too but we didn't discuss the Picnic.
[02:24] <pleia2> we've done it a couple of times, I don't think there is a whole lot to discuss (at least not until next month)
[02:27]  * MarkDude would like to announce that Severed Fifth ROCKED hardcore at Bay Area Metal Fest \m/
[02:27] <pleia2> lol
[02:27] <MarkDude> Not FOSS directly, but still worthy of announcement
[02:28] <rww> Free and Open Source Screaming
[02:28] <pleia2> I tent to concur
[02:29] <pleia2> tend too
[02:29] <jdeslip> sorry announcement period is over.  you will have to just proclaim that markdude
[02:29] <pleia2> on G+
[02:30] <rww> in a hangout
[02:30] <grantbow> and it's not FOSS so maybe in -offtopic? j/k
[02:30] <jdeslip> would join but is pn tablet away from house
[02:30] <jdeslip> (also explains typos)
[02:31] <pleia2> :)
[02:31]  * MarkDude could not resist :D 
[02:31] <pleia2> jdeslip: MJ got me an android cookie cutter!
[02:31] <pleia2> I shall make android cookies for the linux picnic
[02:31] <eps> Green dough or green icing? ;-)
[02:31] <MarkDude> Yay.
[02:31] <pleia2> you can cookie cut gingerbread right?
[02:32] <grantbow> pleia2: I saw the tweet about the cookie cutter :-)
[02:32] <MarkDude> yes
[02:32] <pleia2> ok, maybe gingerbread android cookies because it's funny
[02:32] <pleia2> sugar cookies are easier though
[02:32] <MarkDude> Gingerbread androids, om noms
[02:32] <MarkDude> Geek humor and snacks +1
[02:32] <pleia2> eps: I'm thinking green icing :)
[02:33] <pleia2> but if I do sugar cookies I could do both...
[02:34] <MarkDude> +1
[03:08] <jbermudes> Has anyone ever had their .bashrc file interpret a colon in a path declaration as a literal colon instead of a delimiter?
[03:12] <grantbow> will a \ escape work in that case?
[03:12] <jbermudes> grantbow:  it's escaping it when it shouldn't
[03:13] <grantbow> oh, the other way... hmm...
[03:20] <icarus81> Good evening
[03:29] <philipballew> icarus81, good evening
[03:31] <icarus81> How are you. I didn't think anybody was here.
[03:31] <grantbow> jbermudes: man bash has the answer. Try single quotes.
[03:34] <philipballew> icarus81, why didnt you think anyone was?
[03:38] <grantbow> icarus81: IRC has different ways of talking. People aren't always looking at the channel but will read the logs and answer questions if you have them so just ask.
[03:39] <grantbow> or the mail list
[03:41] <jbermudes> grantbow: That'd still make it literal... but I think I figured it out. It was a custom environment variable, and only PATH and a few other special ones know that colon is a separator
[03:42] <icarus81> oh ok. I just had a question about my ati Video card. It keeps randomly freezing.  I installed both the ATI driver and the restricted ubuntu driver both seem to have the same problem.
[03:45] <icarus81> I just looking for advice. In what direction to go next its really anoying to be surfing and all of a sudden have the computer freeze on you.
[03:50] <jbermudes> icarus81: Do you have any proprietary drivers installed?
[03:50] <icarus81> Yes, Now I do.
[03:51] <jbermudes> But what about when it crashed?
[03:52] <jbermudes> Oh, I see what you mean... and do you know what model?
[03:55] <icarus81> The Card is  http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-radeon-hd-6000/hd-6450/pages/amd-radeon-hd-6450-overview.aspx
[03:58] <icarus81> I used this page http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Maverick_Installation_Guide (mentioned on ATI site)  to install the driver correctly.
[04:00] <jbermudes> Is Maverick your first version or did it used to work in an earlier one?
[04:00] <icarus81> I am pretty sure this is a fresh 10.10 install
[04:01] <icarus81> is there anyway I could check?
[04:03] <jbermudes> But is this the first time using ubuntu with this machine? In other words, perhaps in an earlier version it worked, but then you wiped clean and tried 10.10
[04:06] <icarus81> I just got this card 2 weeks ago.
[04:07] <icarus81> The old one (ATI) worked find the fan just came loose and it became noisy and annoying.
[04:07] <grantbow> could the crashing be a heat problem?
[04:08] <icarus81> It might be but it crashed when I have been browsing online
[04:08] <icarus81> like just reading reddit
[04:13] <icarus81> I don't see a temp monitor in ATI catalyst.
[04:15] <jbermudes> How often does it crash?
[04:15] <jbermudes> And when you say freezing, the screen freezes? Or does the system become unresponsive (caps lock light wont toggle, etc.)
[04:16] <icarus81> unresponsive it flashes really quick then the mouse freezes and I loose all control
[04:18] <icarus81> it happens randomly. It happend twice yestarday.
[04:18] <jbermudes> I wonder if it might be fixed in 11.04
[04:19] <jbermudes> Is there a reason you're still on 10.10?
[05:26] <philipballew> How did the meeting go?
[07:45] <rww> philipballew: shortly
[15:14] <joshk_> so i need some help hooking up a printer to my computer running ubuntu 10.10
[17:30] <jyo> Man, not a fan of the Mac OS X Terminal..
[17:43] <pleia2> I didn't love if the few times I've had to use it either
[17:47] <nhaines> It'd be better if I could middle-click.